Re: [Tagging] Tagging amenity=waste_basket

2012-08-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
something from moving to the other side - that's what defines it as a RETAINING wall. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 35, Issue 23

2012-08-10 Thread Peter Wendorff
from intuitive to do initially. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Carriageway divider

2012-08-20 Thread Peter Wendorff
divider tagging should be our goal here. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] name of river/admin area

2012-09-04 Thread Peter Wendorff
names. Therefore in German it's combined with city of... only in the relatively rare cases of ambiguous names - given the concrete context, not the name alone. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Obstacle

2012-10-13 Thread Peter Wendorff
an obstacle, it is a danger element but as it is on the side of the road it will usually not obstruct the road itself. -1 for guardrail_broken as part of obstacle. It isn't. Do we have anything for danger sources where it could fit? regards Peter ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (key:branch)

2012-10-15 Thread Peter Wendorff
branches have dedicated names, sometimes they have numbers - here the branch is a useful tag; but often branches are only identified by address, and there I'm not sure if/why we should use a dedicated key as the Mc Donalds at Main Street might be enough. regards Peter Am 15.10.2012 14:27

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-18 Thread Peter Wendorff
has an idea about where to look to find crucial information about the facility in the web. regards Peter Am 18.10.2012 16:49, schrieb Simone Saviolo: 2012/10/18 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com mailto:sea...@gmail.com opening hours and operators [...] are intrinsic properties

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-19 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 18.10.2012 17:16, schrieb Simone Saviolo: [...] Peter, I am just a little bit dubious about the guideline you described. A good marketing campaign would include (if multiple social services are used) a website with the main content and regular posts on the social networks about instant

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-19 Thread Peter Wendorff
think about relying on osm opening hours data for an application like that, but don't omit opening hours in future because there won't be applications in that field due to incomplete data. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] RFC advertising

2012-10-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
is a candidate for an additional advertising value as well? (but I have no idea, what the name could be and if it's known enough to count as an own type. Regards Peter Am 28.10.2012 04:04, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Please have a look at the advertising proposal, I am planning to get

Re: [Tagging] Exclusive access rights

2012-10-29 Thread Peter Wendorff
of tags together has to be interpreted to be usual - while on the other hand it's only one tag more to do it in a more data user friendly way. regards Peter Am 29.10.2012 12:40, schrieb Martin Vonwald: People - really! Where did I propose to change any tags at all? I asked a question

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – Time domains

2012-11-04 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 04.11.2012 21:56, schrieb Eckhart Wörner: Hi Peter, Am Sonntag, 4. November 2012, 21:03:12 schrieb Peter Wendorff: With a rough scan only - so no details about the content of your wiki page: Yes, I think it's useful to have this kind of documentation, but IMHO it's not a good replacement

[Tagging] information desk at train stations etc.

2012-11-06 Thread Peter Wendorff
with the information tag obviously used instead of fixme or note, but nothing that fits. regards Peter [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Information [2] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/information ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

[Tagging] Tagging GB railway stations and track

2012-11-07 Thread Peter Hicks
to get involved. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging GB railway stations and track

2012-11-09 Thread Peter Hicks
/map_of_the_railway_network. I imagine this will be really useful to validate track layouts and fill in any gaps. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging GB railway stations and track

2012-11-09 Thread Peter Hicks
. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging GB railway stations and track

2012-11-09 Thread Peter Hicks
happy to make them tiploc_code, stanox_code and crs_code, or perhaps prefix them with something else. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Door to door routing to buildings with multiple occupants

2012-12-04 Thread Peter Wendorff
fit here. In that your argumentation sounds much like a tagging-for-the-renderer-argumentation. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] wiki building=hangar

2013-01-23 Thread Peter Wendorff
to the corresponding fitting real tag; but perhaps you (or anybody else can give examples of usages, where such a tag is missing or where there are reasons not to use/invent one. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] Tunnels and bridges

2013-01-31 Thread Peter Wendorff
to define the bridges pillars (in the middle or at both ends of the structure). Being able to map them would allow 1) better 3D rendering 2) interpreting them as barriers under the bridge 3) more or less calculate an estimated space width for driving through under the bridge regards Peter 2013/1/31

Re: [Tagging] Tunnels and bridges

2013-01-31 Thread Peter Wendorff
-area (e.g. man_made=bridge) defined, but there's a bridge=yes, I have to assume an error, I might report that as such and/or I should fall back to assume a bridge-area at/around the way, which is simple by creating a rectangle with the assumed bridge width around the way. regards Peter

Re: [Tagging] Tunnels and bridges

2013-01-31 Thread Peter Wendorff
the old scheme or not. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tunnels and bridges

2013-02-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
of it, and the bridge area is covered by the highway on top. To summarize: If the bridge outline is hidden underneath the rendered road, the old bridge casing is not hidden (as it's per definition outside of the rendered road). Therefore it's not a problem. regards Peter

Re: [Tagging] Tunnels and bridges

2013-02-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 01.02.2013 14:19, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2013/2/1 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: case 2: the legacy style of at least one bridge highway is painted that wide that it's outer line(s) is/are outside of the bridge area (including casing). This way the legacy styles bridge

Re: [Tagging] Tunnels and bridges

2013-02-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 01.02.2013 15:01, schrieb Janko Mihelic': 2013/2/1 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de mailto:wendo...@uni-paderborn.de but on the other hand it's a reasonable preprocessing step to calculate these conflicts (sharing nodes between ways having bridge=* and ways having

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Peter Wendorff
if not the single pistes have to be paid but you can pay one bill for the whole resort I'm sure there's more which could be incorporated, but find reasons for the relation, and what value the relational concept adds to the tagging solution alone. regards Peter

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread Peter Wendorff
think. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Peter Wendorff
the worldwide company, and that this might have a distinct entry in wikidata. So this wouldn't help either. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 27.02.2013 13:01, schrieb Pieren: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: If you keep the original operator, then I don't see the point. Either the tags operator and operator:wikidata are different and you have a real problem. Or the tags have

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Peter Wendorff
the word about the tag itself; but the wikidata id as the id alone is useless and worse than not adding it in many cases. regards Peter [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eckm%C3%A4nneken Am 27.02.2013 14:19, schrieb Simone Saviolo: 2013/2/27 Pieren pier...@gmail.com mailto:pier...@gmail.com

Re: [Tagging] Proposition for a classification of path

2013-02-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
directly, so some mappers will skip the details in future. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 42, Issue 26 Historic huts

2013-03-27 Thread Peter Wendorff
See wikipedia for comparison: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montane_ecology#Alpine_grasslands_and_tundra regards Peter Am 27.03.2013 14:21, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2013/3/27 St Niklaas st.nikl...@live.nl: Since the hut is situated in Australia, why name it Alpine hut ? I always thought

Re: [Tagging] landuse=water_wellfield

2013-04-08 Thread Peter Wendorff
a tag for that kind might be useful. regards Peter [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchard#Meadow_orchard_.28Streuobstwiese.29 [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.481917mlon=9.130819zoom=16layers=M ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Tagging ATM's

2013-05-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
bank operator=those-who-can't-get-enough and as a separate object, probably inside the polygon of the bank above: amenity=atm operator=thos-who-can't-get-enough regards Peter Am 28.05.2013 18:51, schrieb Tac Tacelosky: Should standalone ATM's be tagged as amenity:atm, but ATM's in a bank

Re: [Tagging] pastry and confectionery

2013-06-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
the other bread is transported from somewhere else. So at least that would lead to a second tag: preparing=yes or something like that. regards Peter Am 03.06.2013 10:45, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2013/6/3 Jo winfi...@gmail.com Better be explicit and use +1 oven=yes for all 'warme

Re: [Tagging] Underground power lines in tunnel

2013-06-04 Thread Peter Wendorff
the same bridge construction, there the problem is exactly the same. There's this proposal already, although I'm not sure if it's the best solution: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Bridges_and_Tunnels regards Peter Am 04.06.2013 00:26, schrieb François Lacombe: Hi, I'm

Re: [Tagging] pastry and confectionery

2013-06-08 Thread Peter Wendorff
(Bäckerei) nur noch für Läden gilt, in denen Mehl gemischt, Teig geknetet und Brot gebacken wird. roughly translated: A Boulangerie is only suitable for shops where flour is mixed, dough is worked and bread is baked. regards Peter Am 02.06.2013 11:04, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: I'd like

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-18 Thread Peter Wendorff
there were no electronic, satellite-based navigation systems) is a good start. regards Peter -- name=Camp Mingo tourism=camp_site addr:housenumber=*801* addr:street=North Mingo Road addr:city=Mingoville addr:postcode=X website=* addr:street=Camp

Re: [Tagging] Catering trailers

2013-06-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
) - peranent structures (like theme parks, restaurants, or even fish-and-chip-restaurants in a permanent building), even with opening_hours attached. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] Catering trailers

2013-06-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - gross weight

2013-06-24 Thread Peter Wendorff
then): the maximum weight the complete road train is allowed to have if fully loaded. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC: toilets=yes, toilets:disposal, toilets:position and incoporating toilets:wheelchair

2013-07-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
Your Own is rather English centric. But bring_your_own can be translated easily, while byop may be an abbreviation or not - who knows? ;) and even if you guess it's one, you have to know the long term to translate it, as byop is not self-explaining AND nevertheless English centric. Gruß Peter

Re: [Tagging] tagging of sticker

2013-07-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
either, as it's not clear how to determine wether it's guaranteed that at any time a trained staff member is available; but I guess that's similar with the sticker you proposed). regards Peter Am 05.07.2013 12:47, schrieb Shu Higashi: Thanks for many comments. I found I've forgotten one

Re: [Tagging] landuse=construction vs. building=construction

2013-07-06 Thread Peter Wendorff
outline, I would tag it as building=construction as it's easy to change the value later. regards Peter Am 06.07.2013 03:26, schrieb L. David Baron: While trying to map some building construction sites in the South of Market (SoMA) neighborhood in San Francisco (near the office where I work), I

Re: [Tagging] Childcare Tag

2013-07-10 Thread Peter Wendorff
is that umbrella term you seem to dislike. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Are addresses ... objects vs attributes

2013-07-24 Thread Peter Wendorff
tagging scheme in some places has it's drawbacks, but that's (technically) the case where more than one value would have to be applied to the same key, e.g. amenity=cafe + amenity=restaurant, or whatever else. In this case it's an IMHO wrong interpretation by KeepRight. regards Peter Am 24.07.2013 00

Re: [Tagging] Are addresses ... objects vs attributes

2013-07-25 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Martin, Am 24.07.2013 23:55, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 24/lug/2013 um 20:42 schrieb Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: natural=water, leisure=fishing (I think that was your example) natural=water, leisure=swimming natural=water|heath|grassland|..., leisure=nature_reserve

Re: [Tagging] Are addresses ... objects vs attributes

2013-07-25 Thread Peter Wendorff
up to the user/software/logical interpretation, which of these objects speak for themself and which ones are only useful or of interest as an attribute of another one. regards Peter Am 25.07.2013 15:55, schrieb André Pirard: On 2013-07-25 10:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : 2013/7/25 Peter

Re: [Tagging] Ranger Station Tag Update (too anglo-centric)?

2013-08-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Micro mapping traffic signals

2013-08-27 Thread Peter Wendorff
- and what now? Another example: the way ends at your node on both sides - and both ways go to different directions - and now? sorry: bad idea IMHO ;) regards Peter P.S.: If that general idea would have been good we would not need relations for some turn restrictions either. Am 27.08.2013 16:40

Re: [Tagging] Micro mapping traffic signals

2013-08-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 27.08.2013 17:38, schrieb Pieren: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: It's more reliable to guess the direction by nearest-distance-to-next-intersection than to rely on any mappers to keep that up to date, especially with iD making it extremly

Re: [Tagging] bicycle barriers open issue: bicycle trailors

2013-08-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
with a trailer - and that is simple but wrong.7 regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] bicycle barriers open issue: bicycle trailors

2013-08-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 28.08.2013 13:21, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2013/8/28 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de bicycle:trailer=no would say it's not ALLOWED to cross this barrier with a trailer - and that is simple but wrong. -1, as this is a new key it would probably not be defined

Re: [Tagging] shop values for _supply, _supplies, _supplement, _supplements?

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Wendorff
But then a pet_supply sells pets, not pet_supplies. Am I right? (Grammatically.) No, as pet_supply IMHO is the kind of shop that sells you cat-food, dog leashes, cages and so on. For a shop selling pets it would be shop=pet. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] How to overcome lack of consensus

2013-09-19 Thread Peter Wendorff
fast food brands, then yes, as they call their shops restaurant themselfes. If we use the OSM nomenclature, it's not - as it's either amenity=restaurant or amenity=fast_food, but not both (except if someone would use multiple values in the tag). regards Peter

Re: [Tagging] Ferry frequency

2013-10-07 Thread Peter Wendorff
at a random time. For calculating the best (shortest, fastest...) route, either the average case would be used. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling

2013-12-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
is often nothing else than the most prominent ad at the store. Therefore most often they objectively don't qualify for shops whose main purpose is selling lottery tickets. regards Peter Am 01.12.2013 10:47, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2013/12/1 Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl Based

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling

2013-12-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
for the mappers later, but adding counter examples would be, too (like a German Lottoladen with a matching tagging that differs from shop=lottery). regards Peter Am 01.12.2013 14:06, schrieb Matthijs Melissen: On 1 December 2013 09:47, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: The only

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-12-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
, as it's part of the webcam information, not part of the contact information, which would lead to webcam:* 2) I would use url instead of contact, if it should refer to where the webcams output can be seen, whcih would lead to webcam:url=* regards Peter Am 01.12.2013 15:18, schrieb Egil Hjelmeland

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-12-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 01.12.2013 16:05, schrieb Egil Hjelmeland: On 01. des. 2013 15:28, Peter Wendorff wrote: Hi, I'm not happy with contact:webcam, as the contact namespace IMHO serves a different purpose. contact:webcam could define whom to contact for questions regarding the webcam, or whom to contact

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-12-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 01.12.2013 21:04, schrieb Egil Hjelmeland: On 01. des. 2013 18:11, Peter Wendorff wrote: Am 01.12.2013 16:05, schrieb Egil Hjelmeland: On 01. des. 2013 15:28, Peter Wendorff wrote: Hi, I'm not happy with contact:webcam, as the contact namespace IMHO serves a different purpose

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
Peter Am 01.12.2013 22:47, schrieb Jonathan: :-) This whole discussion assumes cyclists obey traffic rules! In the UK cyclists ride where they like! :-) http://bigfatfrog67.me On 01/12/2013 21:38, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 1 December 2013 10:04, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-02 Thread Peter Wendorff
free quote from I'm not sure whom: Make your sentence idiot proof and there will be a better idiot. I know, but I know that there are people who don't read your smileys correctly. That shouldn't be an offense against you. ;) regards Peter Am 02.12.2013 20:27, schrieb Jonathan: I was being

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden

2013-12-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
that belongs to the house. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tags useful for rendering of roads in poor conditions

2014-01-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
defaults here when applying rules to the default map rendering. The Mapnik Map IMHO should show what's in OSM, not what one could estimate out of it. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Tags useful for rendering of roads in poor conditions

2014-01-02 Thread Peter Wendorff
, and a dedicated new track too. The solution for routing may be to use different routing profiles for different parts of the world or different preprocessing. regards Peter On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:15 PM, gweber gwebe...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for coming late to this discussion. I have been trying

Re: [Tagging] Tagging roadways prone to landslides

2014-01-02 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi, What about hazard=rock_slide [1]? regards Peter [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hazard Am 02.01.2014 17:51, schrieb John F. Eldredge: What tag would you use on a section of roadway prone to landslides or fallen rocks? I am not talking about tagging a currently

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bag shop, pet shop

2014-01-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
/Tag:shop%3Dpet regards Peter Am 01.01.2014 22:13, schrieb Matthijs Melissen: Dear all, Currently the tags shop=bag (303) and shop=pet (4501) are used in parallel to the less used tags shop=bags (177) and shop=pets (137). I propose to agree on the defacto standard (the singular). In order

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Gambling (reminder)

2014-01-09 Thread Peter Wendorff
is proposed, too it's better to use that one only instead of spreading values across amenity, shop, leisure, gambling and probably even more. regards Peter Am 09.01.2014 15:07, schrieb Martin Vonwald: Hi! 2014/1/9 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com and only use gambling, especially

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin and Online shops

2014-01-23 Thread Peter Wendorff
above. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin and Online shops

2014-01-23 Thread Peter Wendorff
Sounds like a good starting point at least. regards Peter Am 23.01.2014 14:12, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, On 01/23/2014 09:26 AM, Peter Wendorff wrote: At a real, existing office with working people, it's possible that I want to go there to apply for a job, to talk to them about an idea

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Ronnia, as the use case was an outer area shared by two amenities in different building, it's a multipolygon with one outer and one inner member, and that should be fairly common around the world, as it's the most simple case for an osm multipolygon, right? regards Peter Am 28.01.2014 12:20

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
a multipolygon with outer s and inner (b1) and tag it as primary school (so the primary school is the whole space inclunding building b1 WITHOUT b1) 2) use a multipolygon with outer s and inner b2 and tag it as kindergarten (same the other way around). regards Peter Am 28.01.2014 14:14, schrieb Ronnie

Re: [Tagging] Multiple amenities inside shared area

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Wendorff
this type of areas as well. regards Peter Am 28.01.2014 15:50, schrieb Ronnie Soak: 2014/1/28 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de one building (b1) and the outer space (s) are used by a kindergarten, the second building (b2) and the outer space (s) are used by a primary school. Our

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an imaginary oneway barrier

2014-02-04 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 05.02.2014 07:44, schrieb Kytömaa Lauri: Bryce Nesbitt wrote: does not represent what's on the ground: there won't be a one way street sign. Dual carriage roads don't have one way signs, either, but the parts have oneway=yes. I just noticed that the relatively recently changed

Re: [Tagging] Reliable OSM routing

2014-02-10 Thread Peter Wendorff
for Osmand. another thing on a very long list of things i need to learn to do. That's fairly simple: There's a java tool (I think it's called osmandmapcreator) where you put in your osm(.pbf) file, choose the target area (if you want) and get out the obf. regards Peter

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an online store?

2014-02-19 Thread Peter Wendorff
you could use office=e-commerce or something like that: At that geolocation it's an office, but it operates in the e-commerce section, so it's probably an online shop. Not sure if that's the best value, but that's what values are for, right? regards Peter Am 19.02.2014 18:22, schrieb L. David

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - opening hours open until

2014-02-25 Thread Peter Wendorff
is valuable, especially with a minimum-opening-time (open 17:00-22:00+) the opposite isn't useful in my opinion. regards Peter Am 24.02.2014 22:09, schrieb Robin `ypid` Schneider: Good evening I would like to discuss one little detail in the opening_hours syntax. It is about facilities which do

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
is variable, and at a volcano you just get high temperature even in low depths, but that's all. regards Peter Am 05.03.2014 10:37, schrieb Richard Z.: But I understand your wish to classify a spring a bit more detailed. I think it would be better to use additional tags for natural=spring. Eg

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
geothermal for the subset not containing volcanic activity. Use deep-earth-heat or whatever term for a subset, or define a specialized subtag for the subsets (volcanic, ...(non-volcanic?), (others?)). regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Peter Wendorff
on. So for good tagging practise it may be better NOT to use any of the common big keys for the tag, although I agree that it's useful; because landuse, leisure and amenity might be present already with the other properties tagging of these areas. regards Peter

Re: [Tagging] Fixing wrong opening_hours automatically

2014-03-12 Thread Peter Wendorff
the table layout it would have no negative consequences to omit the : after the key but make it slightly better readable. regards Peter Am 11.03.2014 22:59, schrieb Robin `ypid` Schneider: On 08.03.2014 16:37, fly wrote: On 06.03.2014 19:12, Stephan Knauss wrote: Robin `ypid` Schneider writes: I mean

Re: [Tagging] Fixing wrong opening_hours automatically

2014-03-12 Thread Peter Wendorff
Another question to the map: do you consider POIs mapped as polygons? The Heinz Nixdorf Museumsforum [1] in Paderborn is not shown on your map although there's an opening_hours tag since months (if not years). regards Peter [1] http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/?setLng=enzoom=18lat=51.73124lon

Re: [Tagging] layer=-1, rivers, bridges and tunnels

2014-03-15 Thread Peter Wendorff
is on a bridge again on both parts of the dual carriage way independently, but it's impossible to decide from the data (usually) if it's one bridge or two bridges. Your proposal to duplicate the way does not solve this issue either, as you would still need two separate ways here. regards Peter Am

Re: [Tagging] layer=-1, rivers, bridges and tunnels

2014-03-15 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi John, yes, that's one possibility; knew that already, but thanks for pointing the list to the link. regards Peter Am 15.03.2014 14:16, schrieb John Packer: I believe there was a proposal for tagging a bridge separately: man_made=bridge. I think it would be really nice to have the actual

Re: [Tagging] layer=-1, rivers, bridges and tunnels

2014-03-15 Thread Peter Wendorff
this a bug independent of rendering as the same may occur on the way below the bridge as well, if there's a join of that way with another one without a layer tag.x anyone going to report this as a bug in the stylesheet? regards Peter ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Access tags on areas containing highway=*

2014-03-20 Thread Peter Wendorff
on the highways that cross it. Access=no at the forest area would - following your argumentation - imply access=no on any highway crossing it, which will fail in most situations, because nobody explicitly states access=yes to the highway in these cases. regards Peter Am 20.03.2014 06:39, schrieb

Re: [Tagging] Gritting routes

2014-03-23 Thread Peter Wendorff
unstable or changing from year to year I would suggest not to tag them at all. regards Peter Am 23.03.2014 23:07, schrieb Rob Nickerson: Hi All, I have some winter gritting/salting routes that I am trying to work out how best to tag them. I was thinking of creating a route relation, but I

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-10 Thread Peter Wendorff
not take into account the history - and that's why my conclusion is clearly towards no_exit on nodes and only nodes. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] direction=forward/backward on nodes ?

2014-04-14 Thread Peter Wendorff
it is or get's very lightly without tagging mistakes. regards Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Police and Military Mobile Check Point

2014-05-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi, apart from the question about how to tag it: If it is mobile, is it in that case stable enough to be in the map? regards Peter Am 01.05.2014 12:55, schrieb Esben Stien: I was looking at Relation:enforcement: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:enforcement It seems

Re: [Tagging] Police and Military Mobile Check Point

2014-05-01 Thread Peter Wendorff
traffic flow, road closed and similar information (as well as the mentioned mobile check point), but it's not useful to add them to the core database if it's not stated that and in which way they are temporary. regards Peter Am 01.05.2014 14:43, schrieb Esben Stien: Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni

Re: [Tagging] shop: area or way?

2014-05-25 Thread Peter Wendorff
description box to differentiate the technical osm-way (like the taginfo box uses it) from the non-closed way (the tag summary box talks about). 3) explain to anyone complaining about this discrepancy, what's the reason for it ;) regards Peter Am 25.05.2014 09:08, schrieb Markus Semm: Hi all, I´m

Re: [Tagging] shop: area or way?

2014-05-25 Thread Peter Wendorff
Yes, sure - didn't talk about any tag to make it an area ;) regards Peter Am 25.05.2014 09:52, schrieb Andreas Labres: On 25.05.14 09:37, Peter Wendorff wrote [a perfect explanation]. I'd like to add one thing: A closed way just is a closed way (think of a roundabout junction). Adding

Re: [Tagging] editing polygons in JOSM

2014-05-27 Thread Peter Wendorff
first instead of the line, then proceed as described above. As far as I know there is no automatic way to do one of these. regards Peter Am 27.05.2014 20:23, schrieb Tom Gertin: I don't know if the tagging listserv is the appropriate forum for this questions, but I can't find a better one

Re: [Tagging] Wiki edits, building tags on nodes versus areas

2014-06-04 Thread Peter Wendorff
discussion about it. regards Peter Am 04.06.2014 18:43, schrieb Andrew Hain: Over the past few days there have been a number of wiki edits (mainly but not entirely in German) stating that shop=* and similar tags, contrary to the “One feature, one OSM element” principle [1], should only ever

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-10 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 10.06.2014 12:35, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: Bitcoin mappers have been doing everything from copying other maps outright (violating copyright), to geocoding against Google and then placing that in OSM (violating copyright) to geocoding against nominatim and then using that (really bad

Re: [Tagging] Reviewing the use of addr:housename

2014-06-15 Thread Peter Wendorff
there are housenumbers, but if you talk to the locals you more often get references by housename than by housenumber. regards Peter Am 15.06.2014 16:34, schrieb Matthijs Melissen: On 14 Jun 2014 18:25, Andrew Hain andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: The uses of the tag addr:housename in the database[1] does

Re: [Tagging] Emergency Access

2014-06-15 Thread Peter Wendorff
be allowed to share these ways). regards Peter Am 15.06.2014 17:07, schrieb Andreas Goss: So I got a bit of work done with the WikiProject Emergency Cleanup, but now I'm not really sure about emergency access. - Is there a difference between service=emergency_access, access=emergency and emergency

Re: [Tagging] No abbreviations in names edge case

2014-06-18 Thread Peter Wendorff
would map the abbreviation first and try to remind it for later or for others to fix. So: Sure, keep on mapping other stuff, and if you stumble over the meaning, you might remember that you can fix your old edit later ;) regards Peter Am 18.06.2014 06:40, schrieb Paul Johnson: Am I to assume

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