On 14 November 2013 11:54, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nlwrote:
Hmm, difficult to get the difference right. How would you call a place
with video games and pinball machines? What if there are also claw
cranes?
I'd call it an amusement arcade, but that's probably just a local
On 23 August 2013 03:29, Ferenc Veres l...@netngine.hu wrote:
English is not my native language, so I don't know if plural or singular
is correct for this, or which wording would work best grammatically
while also fit in OSM tagging scheme, that recommends plural.
medical_supply
On 27 June 2013 18:15, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
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Baked on site is an important distinction.
For amusement: In the USA much packaged bread is sold with a label or
sticker reading Baked fresh daily or just Baked fresh. As if... there
were
Eric,
The English version did say that at one point, as well, before it was
changed back to the current definition. Maybe the French one was copied
from it during that period.
Stephen
On 13 October 2012 04:49, Eric SIBERT courr...@eric.sibert.fr wrote:
Indeed, as pointed out by Martin, I
On 15 August 2012 21:15, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote:
So why is a new tag or hierarchy needed? Are we just trying to standardize
or formalize a presently-haphazard array of tags or values?
The problem at the moment is that we have two types of tags (landcover and
landuse)
I was away most of last month, and missed most of the discussion of mini
and normal roundabouts. However, looking at the wiki now, from what I can
tell the differences now are
-Roundabouts can be mapped as a way or node (though way is preferred), mini
roundabouts only as a node
-Roundabouts
Here's an example of the same type of sign in Australia
http://goo.gl/maps/Pao1
Stephen
On 2 June 2012 05:20, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 19:02 +0200, Martin Vonwald (Imagic) wrote:
Am 01.06.2012 um 15:01 schrieb Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl:
The problem with this, is many mappers are not even aware of what implicit
assumptions they are making, and hence won't map them. Saying that they
should map them won't help.
Do we need a database* of explicit default settings for different areas,
to be used by renderers, routers and other tools
I've been clearing up some routing bugs reported in my area on Mapdust.
Some of them are valid errors, and I've fixed them. Some I'm not so sure
about.
In one case there is a road where a two way section comes to a divider and
becomes two one way sections for a while. The suggested route came
On 11 April 2012 22:12, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
Likewise as below the router should not make u turns at traffic lights.
I don't have a problem with this, except we then are going to need some way
to tag U-turn allowed to mark the cases where you are allowed to turn.
These are
On 21 March 2012 20:22, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
And your example about from where the Cinema was before is a bit a
problem if we don't see any evidence on the ground (like old signs but
afain we don't have tags yet for that).
This is exactly the kind of problem we have with
I *think* a fitness station is a stop on a fitness trail. Some parks and
children's camps have a marked trail that you travel along, and at each
stop there is some sort of activity to do - a rope climb, step climb,
balance beam, tire running, pull up bar, that sort of thing.
I can see both sides of the argument. We don't want too much
proliferation of special road types - we already have ice roads, now
tidal is suggested, there could easily be dry weather only (or
not-monsoon only), 4wd only, summer only, etc. How far do we want to
take this?
On the other hand, we
On 23 November 2011 16:00, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
Don't know, but it is certainly not tidal_road, as that proposal says
a road that gets tidally flooded. You are not describing a road.
What would you classify it as if the same way happened to be inland,
with no tides involved?
or not if there is a raised door sill, sliding track, etc.
Stephen Hope
On 17 November 2011 22:16, Andreas Balzer andreas.bal...@live.de wrote:
Hello,
I've added a proposal on how to tag doors. It would be nice to get your
opinions on this.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/entrance/door
Have you actually driven through the roads, or just verified signs at
the entrances? From only looking at the map, I would expect that cast,
resort guests, business invitees etc can enter at C, but only to go to
the car parks right by the entrance, and further down that road the
restrictions would
I've heard many terms for them over the years. Some are proprietary
names, some can be confused with other types (traffic spike). The most
generic term I've seen is one way traffic spike, maybe we can make a
tag from that.
Stephen
On 21 October 2011 03:34, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com
I have no problem with some people just mapping it has traffic
lights and others adding more detail, if they feel a need for it.
Most people are never going to need (or have the time/knowledge to
enter) more than there are lights here, but that doesn't mean we
shouldn't have the option for more.
On 1 September 2011 11:41, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
In the US, the problem is that address place names depend on which post
office serves the area, and there is no freely available accurate data
showing this. Many suburban areas outside Orlando city limits have Orlando
in the
Brad,
Where I live, suburbs are well known, have fixed borders (though they
can be and are sometimes adjusted), and are part of your address
according to the post office and local government. They are part of a
larger residential area, which may be a city or town. Villages don't
have multiple
In Australia (and New Zealand) a suburb is a named, legally defined
area that is part of your address. It is usually (always?) smaller
than a local government area (My local government, Moreton Bay Shire,
has 25-30 suburbs, could be more). The borders are routinely shown on
street maps, or the
How about lane dividers? This is an example below, though where I'm
thinking of them they actually divide a couple of lanes for about a km
or so - no lane changing allowed at that point.
http://www.ingalcivil.com.au/reboundable_lane_divider.html
Stephen
On 1 July 2011 03:37, M∡rtin
On 22 June 2011 15:13, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
The u-turn only situations I can think of:
- a divided highway, where the u-turn lane is represented as a oneway,
no relation required)
- a dead end road, where the u-turn is self-explanatory
- maybe some weirdo situation where
On 22 June 2011 16:14, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
That's for the renderer to sort out... We just need to make sure that the
data makes/enables the distinctions that we do as humans. The renderer can
always map multiple tags onto the same icon if it wants to. I think I would
call
On 24 May 2011 20:23, Andrew Chadwick (lists)
a.t.chadwick+li...@gmail.com wrote:
There's a need to address the meanings of overlapping
landuses or possibly even areas generally that I don't really wish to
address in something as simple as a rewording of the docs for gardens.
There's not
On 9 April 2011 05:24, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=sports_centre
might include racquet sport courts, a gymnasium, exercise equipment, a
running track and an ice hockey rink.
Around here, that might also include an indoor sports centre
On 9 April 2011 06:27, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:
I agree that a fitness club/center doesn't fit well as a sports centre -
which I would visualize as having multiple types of facilities for
competitive and/or community social purposes.
A sports centre doesn't have to have mixed sports
We have some in Australia. Of course, the usual flow state in these
areas is none (or very little).
It's very flat ground, often hundreds (or thousands) of km from the
sea. River channels wander through, carrying water that comes from
wherever the floods are. If it rained to the south, the water
On 28 January 2011 07:43, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
Scree, however, usually refers to a sloping pile of loose rock at the base of
a cliff, rather than being a general term for loose rocks.
It's a little bit more general than that - a sloping hillside covered
with loose rock is also scree.
I don't agree. This is a good general rule, but the general
convention on most maps is that the coast goes on the SEA side of
things like coastal swamps and mangroves. As a rule of thumb, if it
has plants growing though the water, it's land, not sea, even if it
happens to be wet.
Doing this
On 19 January 2011 16:50, char...@cferrero.net wrote:
Google, however, has put the coastline around the outside of the marshes and
the result looks nothing like a good representation of what's actually
there:
I'm starting to be convinced that there is a cultural disconnect with
the word craft. To me (and I suspect most English speakers) there has
to almost be an arts aspect for something to be a craft. Whereas I'm
starting to get the impression the German use is closer to what I
think of as trade or
On 9 January 2011 07:43, Robert Elsenaar rob...@elsenaar.info wrote:
Nathan,
I do not understand you at all.
We agree about cycleway=lane: No seperation but defenitely a special place
for bicycles.
You stated in your last replay, and correct me if a I'm wrong.
highway cycleway should be
Have you seen the presentation of Tag Central that came out of the
last State of the Map conference? I think something like this was
covered in that, though I could be thinking of the wrong thing.
Stephen
On 6 January 2011 13:00, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 January 2011
On 4 January 2011 02:26, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/12/17 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
Yes and it would fine if we could continue in that way. Since landuses
shouldn't overlap
where do you get this from? IMHO this is not defined in the wiki and
looking at current
A winter road is on ground (swamp, marsh, mud, dirt) while an ice road
is on a water feature (lake, bay). Both need freezing weather for
good roads, but you can walk along a winter road in summer (if
allowed), while you'd need a boat for an ice road.
Stephen
On 12 December 2010 08:55, Steve
Yeah, he's obviously copied a page about bike lanes - there's still a
couple of bike references in places. To me, a busway is a separate
road just for buses (or maybe emergency vehicles as well), anything
that is in a normal street is just a bus lane.
Around here we have bus-ways (dedicated bus
On 16 November 2010 11:04, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
How do you define separate? Most of the bus lanes here are
separated, but cars can cross the obstacles if they had to
Separate as in a totally different road, with it's own verges,
bridges, tunnels etc. The buses use
On 15 October 2010 02:29, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
However, in countries that have more than one official language, or in areas
that expect to have a lot of foreign visitors, you are likely to see more
than one language on at least some of the signs. In this case, what would
you
On 8 October 2010 03:09, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the current feeling for a new key landcover? Could resolve
many issues, as often landuse is a mixture of actual use and
coverage.
As long as it is made clear that not all landuse= tags are actually
landuse (or
On 5 October 2010 07:55, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Let's start by splitting out static characteristics from dynamic influences
such traffic and weather. Once the static stuff (lanes, inclines, curviness
and whatever) is in there, something like TMC information can be used to add
On 29 September 2010 13:58, Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org wrote:
AND I would search
another name for ceremonial, as a New Year's eve party has nothing to do
with any kind of ceremony but it's probably the time where average women use
their most high-end dresses except for their
What we generally have around here is a shop that both sells and rents
formal wear - sometimes one sex, often both. They do weddings, school
formals, black tie dinners etc. I'd call this a formal wear shop.
One that sells nothing but wedding dresses is a subset of this (and
very rare around here,
On 29 August 2010 16:28, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Z%C3%BCrich_-_B%C3%BCrkliplatz_IMG_0525_ShiftN.jpg
(or something less fancy) is what I think of a pavilion as.
http://apps.ocfl.net/dept/cesrvcs/parks/parkdetails.asp?parkid=66
agrees that the
On 16 August 2010 15:01, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
He wasn’t saying that bicycle=designated is always a sharrow, but that a
sharrow is effectively the same thing as a sign saying “bike route”.
They’re both ways of marking something as a designated route for bicycles.
I don't agree
On 3 August 2010 11:28, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:10 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
I can't remember what happened, and there is nothing really useful on
the discussion page at all.
Looks like the usual tussle between mapping at some
On 30 July 2010 17:42, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Given that there are wineries that don't sell direct to the public,
and there are wine shops not attached to wineries, and that a cellar
door is really no more than a wine shop within a winery, I would
suggest:
Some cellar
On 5 July 2010 12:21, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote:
I see the lanes tag
being useful primarily in determining likely speed possible in making
routing decisions, other factors being equal. It could also be useful in
rendering. Neither would seem to sway me to add the extra lane
On 1 July 2010 22:08, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
In fact, the technique of having the user select from a list of words, but
actually storing the value as an arbitrary ID (generally numeric), is the
recommended technique in database design. It is called normalizing the
On 28 June 2010 20:02, Jason Cunningham jamicu...@googlemail.com wrote:
The English rich decided they didnt like using the long 'association
football', and were understandably unhappy about the working class stealing
the term 'football' for the working class game. So the rich English came up
On 28 June 2010 10:26, Jason Cunningham jamicu...@googlemail.com wrote:
Yes, the wiki needs to be changed to tell people not to use the insulting
word 'soccer', especially as we try to use British English to stop tags
getting confusing.
Just using sport=football would be confusing, so I prefer
I'm a little bit worried about using admin_level, as it has
connotations of control, not just level. It could be misinterpreted
as who controls an airfield, rather than how important it is.
What you're trying to do here is give a renderer explicit hints on how
important something is, and what
It's a borderline case. There is always going to be some that are a
bit of both.
This one in particular isn't the main Botanical gardens for Brisbane
any more, that's out near Mt Coot-tha. That one is more what I think
of as Botanical Gardens, this one is more what I think of as a park.
I'd be
On 2 June 2010 11:48, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
amenity=assisted_living, because (if?) in all cases you are describing
a place where people *live* with *assistance*.
I like assisted_living as well. Be aware, though, that it is starting
to be used as a marketing term for those
2010/5/19 Petr Morávek [Xificurk] xific...@gmail.com:
landuse=recreation_ground OR landuse=residential - do you know any
garden that is outside those two areas?
Formal gardens/landscaping around commercial and public buildings?
The gardens at a parliament house, library etc may be considered
Hmm, to me there are three levels.
Crazy Clarks is bargain/discount
Target, KMart are downmarket
DJ's etc are upmarket
How should we tag a factory outlet type store that sell's upmarket
stuff at lower prices? I can easily find stores that sell every
product at a very reduced price, but still
It sounds to me like we're getting back to the old argument about the
difference between land-use and land-cover. Unfortunately, tags for
both have been lumped together into landuse=*, (as well as some
natural, man-made etc) which is why the debate reoccurs so often.
Sand is a cover, not a use.
It's great, but unfortunately the data is out of date (or from
somewhere else). Try looking for source=nearmap , as an example. It
doesn't have any, and I know of hundreds just in my area. I think
it's undergoing redevelopment at the moment.
Stephen
On 25 February 2010 07:45, Steve Bennett
On 8 February 2010 09:10, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
I tend to think 1) or 3) is the correct solution. I hesitate to use 3) due
to [1], which says: For areas adjacent to ways, the consensus is to
generally leave a small gap between the area and the way instead of sharing
the
2009/12/9 Randy rwtnospam-new...@yahoo.com:
On further thought, while I'm OK with either approach, I think
amenity=parking, parking=customer is a better way to go than bending
access=destination to fit the issue. It seems a little closer to what
seems to be a best practice in other areas.
Here in Brisbane, we have a 'private way' going from the motorway out
to the airport. It is several km long, divided multilane road that
looks like a motorway, but is all on airport owned land. It is open to
the public, and you can get booked by the police for traffic offences.
However, because
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