Re: [Tagging] waterfall

2013-09-25 Thread Yves
Man-made waterfalls ? Pieren pier...@gmail.com a écrit : On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: why do you want to have a decision. We have 8615 waterway=waterfall 2395 natural=waterfall So they will coexist happily forever Any (good) reason to keep two

Re: [Tagging] Howto tag a play room

2013-10-01 Thread Yves
In french a 'crèche' would belong to more official childcare facilities. I'm afraid it would lead to inappropriate use of the tag. Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com a écrit : A playground is normally out of doors. Crèche seems fine to me - but only if supervised. Steve On 01/10/2013 12:14,

Re: [Tagging] Wind turbines: big and small

2013-10-07 Thread Yves
This ele / height discussion might show we need a simple tagging scheme to distinguish wind turbines that can be seen as a landmark. Yves Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com a écrit : Dana ponedjeljak, 7. listopada 2013., korisnik John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com je napisao: As far as I know

Re: [Tagging] admin_boundary with multiple levels / county free citys / Kreisfreie Staedte

2013-11-06 Thread Yves
Administrative boundaries are defined by a unique administrative instance ? Let's take the problem the other way around: Is this boundary x an admin level 6? If yes, create a level 6 relation. Is this boundary x an admin level 8? If yes, create a level 8 relation. Do you want to know if a

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin and Online shops

2013-11-26 Thread Yves
Placing online businesses on a world map may be more tricky than you think ... Yves Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi, Openstreetmap has been contributing to the Bitcoin revolution with this map: http://coinmap.org/ the problem is that lots of online businesses want to get

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin and Online shops

2013-11-27 Thread Yves
offfice=... is a good key for a ground-truth feature, even if it operates in the cloud. Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com a écrit : 2013/11/26 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org The probably don't care where the pin is as long as it somehow increases their search engine ranking ;) I found a

Re: [Tagging] Ski_jump_take_off

2014-01-21 Thread Yves
What about piste:type= tag common to winter sports ? Yves Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com a écrit : Am 21/gen/2014 um 19:04 schrieb remont...@free.fr remont...@free.fr: I like sport=ski_jump_take_off. Do you think it is a good idea? it is not IMHO, consider putting

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-09 Thread Yves
Many music festival take place on otherwise landuse=meadow On 9 mars 2014 22:41:51 UTC+01:00, jonathan jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me wrote: I definitely think there is a need for this, I can think of many places around the UK this could apply to. landuse=events is better than leisure=* Jonathan

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Yves
Leisure yes, landuse no. On 12 mars 2014 20:21:23 UTC+01:00, Antônio Marcos toni.o...@gmail.com wrote: I am still struggling a bit about the key that should be used with the events value. Should I keep leisure, as it is now, or change it to landuse? What are your opinions on this, please? Thanks

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-12 Thread Yves
On 12 mars 2014 23:00:04 UTC+01:00, John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com wrote: I think it should be either amenity=* or landuse=*. leisure=* sounds odd, since the place can be vacant most of the time(and not accessible during that time). -This is an 'event'. Yves 2014-03-12 18:15 GMT-03:00

Re: [Tagging] Adding boat routes to wiki

2014-03-24 Thread Yves
I discovered recently that route=canoe *is* in the doc, in the type=route page. Yves On 24 mars 2014 22:11:43 UTC+01:00, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-03-24 16:41 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: I would use a type=waterway relation for the canal. Seems good to me

Re: [Tagging] Adding boat routes to wiki

2014-03-24 Thread Yves
Dave, you can connect with a straight way across the lake with no tag, but part of the relation. Yves On 25 mars 2014 01:39:33 UTC+01:00, Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com wrote: There is a definite need for a way to indicate a route that crosses an open body of water like a lake. I came

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-03-31 Thread Yves
There is this site refuges.info that could be used to help defining useful tags at least for France. On 1 avril 2014 04:20:08 UTC+02:00, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: On 01.04.2014 03:01, Dave Swarthout wrote: So, an alpine_hut is, at least in Europe, an operated place sort of like a

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-10 Thread Yves
I guess the problem arises from tagging dead-ends in a geo database. QA tools should keep there false positives for themself, not in OSM, don't you think? On 10 avril 2014 16:59:44 UTC+02:00, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Florian Schäfer flor...@schaeferban.de

Re: [Tagging] access=designated - what do we think it means?

2014-04-11 Thread Yves
I always assumed it was for street where traffic is allowed for residents or delivery, but not for traffic passing through. Never read this wiki page, though. On 11 avril 2014 18:28:28 UTC+02:00, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Currently, there are 41,000 things tagged

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - site=piste relations

2014-04-18 Thread Yves
their opinion here, though I have to admit the vast majority of mappers is not concerned: 7 votes is not that bad. Yves On 04/12/2014 09:57 AM, yvecai wrote: More opinions appreciated on this: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Tag:site%3Dpiste Yves

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Tagging natural or informal swimming holes?

2014-04-25 Thread Yves
On the contrary, where there's water you can technically swim. I'm not against mapping informal places, but they should be well known for such activities. On 25 avril 2014 15:07:15 UTC+02:00, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 23:03 -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: How

Re: [Tagging] deforestation tag

2014-05-04 Thread Yves
Landcover describes what covers the land, landuse what is it used for by man. Hence landcover=grass and landuse=meadow, you can perfectly use these two tags on the same polygon, or on two overlapping ones. Yves On 4 mai 2014 12:32:08 UTC+02:00, John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't

Re: [Tagging] deforestation

2014-05-04 Thread Yves
If the timber is on the ground, then the forest is exploited: landuse=forest. Later on, if you have other information, and if new trees aren't growing, then you can change. On 4 mai 2014 15:29:12 UTC+02:00, Thomas Gertin tger...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks fly and everyone else to responding to my

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes (again) (and again)

2014-05-31 Thread Yves
I had never tagged a noexit=yes, neither node=yes nor way=yes, but I find it sensible to declare it as false positive in QA tools. Agree that the tag is less meaningful on ways. Yves On 31 mai 2014 06:51:59 UTC+02:00, bulwersator bulwersa...@zoho.com wrote: noexit=yes on ways makes absolutely

Re: [Tagging] Suggestions for the correct tagging of Field borders

2014-06-13 Thread Yves
Field border literally means the border of a field, so I fear the tag meaning is not as clear as it should. On 13 juin 2014 14:35:34 UTC+02:00, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-06-13 14:15 GMT+02:00 Simon Wüllhorst m...@simon-wuellhorst.de: Hello Guys, currently I’m

Re: [Tagging] aerialway=mixed_lift

2014-07-22 Thread Yves
mixed_lift is an old and established value. On 22 juillet 2014 09:15:44 UTC+02:00, Holger Jeromin mailgm...@katur.de wrote: Hello, I found the rare but (in winter sport areas) important mixed_lifts with chairs and gondolas are not rendered on the osm mainpage. An issue for the rendering style

Re: [Tagging] aerialway=mixed_lift

2014-07-22 Thread Yves
For reference, it is documented here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Piste_Maps#aerialway Maybe the aerialway tag page should reflect the pistemaps page. On 22 juillet 2014 09:33:48 UTC+02:00, Yves yve...@gmail.com wrote: mixed_lift is an old and established value. On 22 juillet 2014 09:15

Re: [Tagging] Research laboratory

2014-08-05 Thread Yves
A laboratory can take a lot of forms: a building, a farm field, a desert ... So definitely defining a primary tag with laboratory=primary speciality is a good idea imo. Yves On 5 août 2014 12:39:10 UTC+02:00, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-05 12:06 GMT+02:00 Pierre

Re: [Tagging] bridge=humpback ?

2014-08-10 Thread Yves
There is a lot of things not of interest to the majority of users in OSM, this is why it is rich. Yves On 10 août 2014 12:41:22 UTC+02:00, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 2014-08-10 12:13, Никита wrote: I.e they define this tag as subtype of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Tagging] bridge=humpback ?

2014-08-10 Thread Yves
of bridge?.. Is this you who minority and cannot pass this bridge without speed reduction or it is me who can drive everywhere at regular speed? This is really subjective. 2014-08-10 16:47 GMT+04:00 Yves yve...@gmail.com mailto:yve...@gmail.com: There is a lot of things not of interest

Re: [Tagging] Mapping cave tunnels passable by human

2014-08-15 Thread Yves
This would be preferably tagged precisely with a whole new proposal like for piste:difficulty, sac_scale, or whitewater:grade by speleo addicts, IMO. On 14 août 2014 16:16:54 UTC+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-14 15:56 GMT+02:00 John F. Eldredge

Re: [Tagging] Forest vs Wood

2014-08-21 Thread Yves
Good proposal, Andrew. On 21 août 2014 22:29:40 UTC+02:00, Andrew Guertin andrew.guer...@uvm.edu wrote: On 08/20/2014 04:58 PM, Richard Z. wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 06:45:30PM +0100, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi, Sorry to raise this issue again but it really does need resolving: * for

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Yves
mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Yves From my phone___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Rename wiki status Approved to Published

2015-04-03 Thread Yves
You're right, the 'status' field in the template may look very official and definitive, but going from approved to published is a step in a good direction. Yves Le 3 avril 2015 23:50:40 GMT+02:00, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com a écrit : On 4/04/2015 8:30 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Circling back

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Carport

2017-02-04 Thread Yves
I think here that no comment means not controversial, you should move away the page from proposal to document an established tag and that's it. Yves Le 4 février 2017 18:56:29 GMT+01:00, Joachim <nore...@freedom-x.de> a écrit : >This is the second RfC since the first one got no

Re: [Tagging] Proper Tag for Not-a-Roundabout

2016-11-08 Thread Yves
In fact, the tag should be "like-a-roundabout", right? Le 8 novembre 2016 12:07:24 GMT+01:00, Daniel Hofmann a écrit : >In the second example "Skalitzer Straße" has right of way. > >Here are the instructions emitted at the moment:

Re: [Tagging] Busways

2016-11-05 Thread Yves
In fact, there is no need to document any special values of highway as far as buses are concerned !? Buses can drive on whatever highway type their operators and drivers may see fit. Yves Le 5 novembre 2016 16:42:47 GMT+01:00, Tijmen Stam <mailingli...@iivq.net> a écrit : >On 03-11

[Tagging] Hunting area tagging

2016-10-20 Thread Yves
with hunting=yes/no/see note is a common enough ground. Yves -- ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

2016-10-21 Thread Yves
I definitely think it's a matter of permission and opening hours, the polygon where this permission apply is secondary, could it be an admin boundary or reserve of some kind. Let the case where no boundary exists yet in OSM, then map it. Yves Le 21 octobre 2016 15:45:26 GMT+02:00, Kevin

Re: [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

2016-10-24 Thread Yves
Puting aside the pleasure to debate over landuse and landcover, what about defining hunting = as a permission tag, and invent a new polygon type dedicated to define a hunting area boundary where no other polygon is suitable to add this tag to? Yves Le 24 octobre 2016 13:29:21 GMT+02:00

Re: [Tagging] Busways

2016-11-03 Thread Yves
@Tijmen, IMHO there is very little chance to convince people to change the way we tag highways because of buses using them or not. Yves Le 3 novembre 2016 09:01:51 GMT+01:00, althio <althio.fo...@gmail.com> a écrit : >My 2 cents: > >I am very much in favour of b) highway=* (all

Re: [Tagging] Landuse=grass - boots on change to wiki

2017-01-09 Thread Yves
Ah, hum, let me see, ... changesets? Yves Le 9 janvier 2017 21:03:03 GMT+01:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit : >On 09-Jan-17 08:16 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> Please remember that the wiki is intended to document what the common > >> use is, not wh

Re: [Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

2017-01-12 Thread Yves
I think Warin has put there values from taginfo, right? Yves Le 12 janvier 2017 12:10:40 GMT+01:00, Tom Pfeifer <t.pfei...@computer.org> a écrit : >On 12.01.2017 02:19, Warin wrote: > >> So I have added 3 tables to the wiki produce page; aquaculture, farm >and >> fo

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-11 Thread Yves
Garden with access=no? Only for the eyes. Yves Le 11 janvier 2017 10:56:02 GMT+01:00, Marc Zoutendijk <marczoutend...@mac.com> a écrit : > >> Op 10 jan. 2017, om 05:14 heeft Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> het >volgende geschreven: >> >> I thought the ori

Re: [Tagging] Wrong use of landuse=village_green - but what else to use?

2017-01-08 Thread Yves
John, maybe you have something in your post: landcover=landscaping? Yves Le 9 janvier 2017 07:25:05 GMT+01:00, John Willis <jo...@mac.com> a écrit : > > > >> On Jan 9, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Bill Ricker <bill.n1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It would

Re: [Tagging] RFC: emergency=dry_riser_inlet

2017-04-05 Thread Yves
in the wiki. Yves Le 6 avril 2017 00:03:41 GMT+02:00, "François Lacombe" <fl.infosrese...@gmail.com> a écrit : >Hi Martin, > >Good one :) >Comments sent > > >All the best > >Francois > >2017-04-05 11:22 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer ><

Re: [Tagging] Invalid voting of proposed feature motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-03-03 Thread Yves
mapping playgrounds in those I know. Yves ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Undiscussed changes for wki pages about access mode "designated".

2017-03-10 Thread Yves
Woosh, 200 edits a day! Not saying it's not useful, but at least self-moderation should be considered. After all it's a community there. Yves Le 10 mars 2017 20:25:17 GMT+01:00, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> a écrit : >Hi, > >On 03/10/2017 08:05 PM, Mariusz wrote: >

Re: [Tagging] Request for Discussion - Drying_room or Drying_area

2017-03-10 Thread Yves
Of course in an hotel there is not much confusion possible with agricultural purposes , however why not clothes_drying if 'area' is used in the tag? Yves ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-06 Thread Yves
Le 6 octobre 2017 18:34:30 GMT+02:00, marc marc <marc_marc_...@hotmail.com> a écrit : >Le 04. 10. 17 à 17:44, Yves a écrit : >> Now if it's bad, you can trust the contributors not to use it. >> Also, you can take time to explain your argument against in the >> d

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-04 Thread Yves
page, it's a wiki ;-) Yves Le 4 octobre 2017 11:45:50 GMT+02:00, Tom Pfeifer <t.pfei...@computer.org> a écrit : >On 03.10.2017 11:34, Thilo Haug wrote: >> Please describe which 'problems' you fear to appear if it's not >deleted. > >As you ask so directly - the core

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Street_furniture

2017-10-17 Thread Yves
All your examples of street furnitures are already mapped in OSM. What is your proposal, exactly? Yves Le 17 octobre 2017 20:27:25 GMT+02:00, hvdb <henk...@gmail.com> a écrit : >*Street furniture* is a collective term (used in the United Kingdom ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] how to map a fr:talus?

2017-11-23 Thread Yves
Hmm, as a French, I surely know what a talus is. However, I don't think the man_made key would fit all of them. While surveying, are to say if they are natural or man made. To my knowledge, a 'talus' can also have 2 sides, like a small but elongated hill. Yves Le 23 novembre 2017 20:30:46

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Metro Mapping

2017-11-18 Thread Yves
features to pass. I like the way this starts on another thread about education : a proposal to vote on the idea of a proposal. Yves ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Education Reform

2017-11-19 Thread Yves
I think a bit like Simon and Christoph, but if the goal is to vote on the opportunity of a reform, I'd stay open about the final scheme. Yves Le 19 novembre 2017 12:19:48 GMT+01:00, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> a écrit : > >[Christoph pressed send before I did, sigh] > &

Re: [Tagging] Tagging national/international routes.

2018-05-07 Thread Yves
Could be other relations named "Partridge Track Loop 1" etc. If a user search for Partridge Track, they'll be able to find them. What do they share with the main route? The name, the operator? The signs? There's maybe no need to group them in another relation. Yves Le 8 mai 2018 02

Re: [Tagging] tagging arbiters (gone OT)

2018-05-19 Thread Yves
as a separate row. The relation_member has access to the role and type value of each member. You can also import tags from the relation and from the member node, way or relation. Yves Yves___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Conflicting wiki docu for aerialway=goods and aerialway=station

2018-05-15 Thread Yves
!! Any opinion on the OP question? Yves Le 15 mai 2018 08:51:55 GMT+02:00, Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> a écrit : >Frisian is not a dialect of Dutch. It is an ancestor of both English >and Dutch. > >On 15 May 2018 00:36:02 CEST, Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com>

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

2018-05-24 Thread Yves
Florian, I would agree with you. Posting the Australian pictures on the wiki would attract a few more opinions. Somebody dare? Yves Le 24 mai 2018 19:29:03 GMT+02:00, Florian Lohoff <f...@zz.de> a écrit : >On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 08:14:34PM +1000, Andrew Harvey wrote: >> On 23

Re: [Tagging] type=route tagged on a way?

2018-05-17 Thread Yves
have to follow to properly exploit the data, but I don't know. Yves Le 17 mai 2018 18:36:29 GMT+02:00, osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au a écrit : >Well, if this particular way of tagging things is generally supported >by data consumers, then I would consider it a documentation error &g

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

2018-05-23 Thread Yves
I always found it strange to find a driveway over a few kilometers in a mountainous area given the picture available in the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:service=driveway Yves Le 23 mai 2018 09:18:35 GMT+02:00, Florian Lohoff <f...@zz.de> a écrit : > >Hi, > >in

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Lounges

2018-06-10 Thread Yves
is sorts of armchairs as furnitures. Yves Le 10 juin 2018 07:16:53 GMT+02:00, Anton Klim a écrit : >There are hotel lounges that offer showering facilities, but to access >these lounges (executive lounges, clubs - they are called different >names), you normally need to check in/be of eli

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Lounges

2018-06-10 Thread Yves
Paul, Given the definition of an airport lounge given earlier (a waiting room reserved for business or first class, operated by airlines company... ), I think the concept is fairly concise. Now expanding this to hotels and dentists is not possible and maybe there is no need to? Stations are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Lounges

2018-06-10 Thread Yves
I don't necessarily want to get rid of the word lounge, but an amenity=airport_lounge leaves very little doubt about what it is. Yves Le 10 juin 2018 13:28:17 GMT+02:00, Paul Allen a écrit : >On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 8:03 AM, Yves wrote: > >> I would expect a 'lounge' in an hotel a

Re: [Tagging] random lawns and uncontrolled shrubs tagged as leisure=garden

2018-05-28 Thread Yves
of the owners of the lots you depicted. Yves Le 28 mai 2018 17:54:30 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : >Currently garden on wiki at >https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden ><https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden> is described >as >not

Re: [Tagging] Canoe route

2018-06-30 Thread Yves
expansion of the difficulty scale obviously apply to still water. I also think this allow a consistent tagging for the ways along a route that crosses lake and follow rivers. Needless to say, if you never paddled there, please don't map it. Yves Le 30 juin 2018 23:39:47 GMT+02:00, Paul Allen

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=racetrack

2018-06-25 Thread Yves
You're right, there is piste:type=sled and sport=bobsleigh. The former could be tagged with the latter. Sport=* is not a physical tag, it tags the sports exerced in another feature (pitch, stadium, building,...). So sport is probably what you would want to use on your racetracks. Yves Le 25

Re: [Tagging] How to tag bakery not selling bread or other bread-like products?

2018-06-26 Thread Yves
This is similar to bretzels or bagels in other countries, right? Le 26 juin 2018 11:48:26 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : >In Kraków there are some places selling solely specific baked product >(obwarzanek). >Tagging it as shop=bakery would be misleading, it is not selling normal >baked

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=racetrack

2018-06-24 Thread Yves
Some of these are already covered, I guess. See piste:type for winter sports, for instance, but I'm pretty sure horse tracks have already a scheme. Yves ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread Yves
Bah, if you want to tag the Canale Grande something else than waterway=canal, you have an occupation for years ;) Yves Le 30 juin 2018 15:18:53 GMT+02:00, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > >sent from a phone > >> On 30. Jun 2018, at 14:41, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> &

Re: [Tagging] Canoe route

2018-06-30 Thread Yves
follows a river with grade 1, then map it as such. Yves Le 30 juin 2018 20:49:35 GMT+02:00, Paul Allen a écrit : >On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 7:39 PM, Alan Grant >wrote: > >> >> I think there is an analogy with an aspect of hiking trails that I >have >> never b

Re: [Tagging] Outdoor deckchairs

2018-04-29 Thread Yves
Amenity=bench with a subtag seems a good idea for data consumers. Yves Le 29 avril 2018 23:47:25 GMT+02:00, Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com> a écrit : >On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick ><graemefi...@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> >> >> >&

Re: [Tagging] Outdoor deckchairs

2018-04-30 Thread Yves
dre...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > >sent from a phone > >> On 30. Apr 2018, at 07:49, Yves <yve...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Amenity=bench with a subtag seems a good idea for data consumers. > > >if these aren’t benches i

Re: [Tagging] Route members: ordered or not

2018-05-03 Thread Yves
, most loops and some take the same way twice in opposite direction. Yves Le 3 mai 2018 18:42:38 GMT+02:00, Volker Schmidt <vosc...@gmail.com> a écrit : >I will try to explain this in a more systematic way: > >Routes belong to either of two categories: >(A) Those whose mem

Re: [Tagging] Route members: ordered or not

2018-05-03 Thread Yves
Un-ordered route members make it very hard to detect a broken route. Best practice : 1. If you edit a route, order it at best and check if you haven't broken it. 2. If you find an unordered route, order it, check if broken and try to repair it. Use for instance http://ra.osmsurround.org/. Yves

Re: [Tagging] Flood mark or high water mark

2018-08-05 Thread Yves
Spotted thanks to Osmand: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2401935175 Yves Le 5 août 2018 12:23:40 GMT+02:00, Volker Schmidt a écrit : >Flood marks and high water marks are not necessarily the same thing. >Read >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_water_mark >to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=racetrack

2018-08-23 Thread Yves
I really fail to understand why leisure=sport_center (or else) + sport=kart doesn't suits you. Yves Le 23 août 2018 15:01:58 GMT+02:00, Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi a écrit : >Il giorno gio, 23/08/2018 alle 08.59 +0200, Yves ha scritto: >> Lorenzo, I think you're doing it wrong: if

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Evacuation Routes

2018-08-25 Thread Yves
Bah, 8 votes on such a specialized feature is a nice score ;-). Maybe you could have advertised on hot@ to gain more traction. Yves ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] consensus needed: officially a town but visibly distinct settlements?

2018-08-18 Thread Yves
Michael, you don't seem to take the right direction to construct a fruitful discussion with Jose :) For your first issue, did you reach the Lithuanian and Russian community? Yves Le 18 août 2018 16:37:28 GMT+02:00, Michael Tsang a écrit : >On Saturday 18 August 2018 22:10:15 HKT José G Moy

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=racetrack

2018-08-23 Thread Yves
them within a 'winter_sport' set. Yves Le 23 août 2018 02:02:03 GMT+02:00, Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi a écrit : >I'm trying to imagine a tag with a wider meaning, so I created a table >in which I put the different sports more or less competitive, grouping >them in some way. >For

Re: [Tagging] consensus needed: officially a town but visibly distinct settlements?

2018-08-18 Thread Yves
country? The place key allow a hierarchy of values with words from British English. I don't think those values covers accurately perception everywhere on the globe, that's why I think the local community can have a documented opinion on how to tag. Yves Le 18 août 2018 20:29:52 GMT+02:00

Re: [Tagging] waterway=fish_pass consistency

2018-07-20 Thread Yves
Ah, and I have a waterway=lift, fish=yes nearby :) https://www.google.com/search?q=orbe+ascenseur+a+poisson=fr-CH=android-browser=ivsn=lnms=isch=X=0ahUKEwiTx97MuK_cAhVEVywKHbOlCk0Q_AUIESgB=360=518#imgrc=Luw0xusYIWLRUM: Yves Le 21 juillet 2018 00:55:34 GMT+02:00, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit

Re: [Tagging] waterway=fish_pass consistency

2018-07-19 Thread Yves
You'd be *very* surprised what shapes fish passes can take. I don't think it's a good idea to use the waterway key to tell that whatever feature is intended to be a fish pass. This one, although man made is definitely a river, that was built as 1) a fish pass, 2} a whitewater course.

Re: [Tagging] Golf wiki page

2018-07-14 Thread Yves
You should pay attention to the message format, the last one is unreadable. Le 14 juillet 2018 10:57:07 GMT+02:00, osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au a écrit : >From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> >Sent: Saturday, 14 July 2018 17:07 >To: tagging@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Tagging] Golf

Re: [Tagging] Dangerous waterways tagging: hazard?

2018-07-24 Thread Yves
The tag 'hazard' can be found on the whitewater wiki page, so I guess whatever tag is found here would be worth mentioned there. Yves Le 24 juillet 2018 12:51:39 GMT+02:00, ael a écrit : >On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:48:05PM +0200, François Lacombe wrote: >> >> As the d

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

2018-09-02 Thread Yves
Why don't you Tage separate relations? Yves Le 2 septembre 2018 11:02:39 GMT+02:00, Volker Schmidt a écrit : >There are routes out there that can be used by bicycle and on foot. Up >tp >now I have classified them as one or the or the other, tagging >according to >th

Re: [Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

2018-09-02 Thread Yves
Maybe it would be worth mentioning on the semicolon page that a lot of tools (including mapnik) support regex matching for tag values instead of simple equality. Just a head up for data consumers. Yves Le 2 septembre 2018 12:36:06 GMT+02:00, Volker Schmidt a écrit : >Maybe the corr

[Tagging] Is waterway=riverbank an 'Old scheme' ?

2018-09-06 Thread yves
That's what I read here : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:water%3Driver Regards, Yves ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] why do we discourage leisure=skatepark/skate_park?

2018-08-31 Thread Yves
Yes, hard to express with simple words. I'd let "non-physical" between quotes and add more examples (building, landuse, stadium, sport_center, etc...). Yves Le 31 août 2018 08:47:56 GMT+02:00, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > >sent from a phone > >> On 31. Aug 201

Re: [Tagging] Is waterway=riverbank an 'Old scheme' ?

2018-09-08 Thread Yves
There's the documened natural=riverbed. Yves Le 8 septembre 2018 02:07:48 GMT+02:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit : >Humm >I would tend to just mark the river .. not the bank at all. But.. > >However the river bank would be seasonal? >So possibly a seasonal tagging

Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and platforms

2018-04-10 Thread Yves
One should keep in mind some mappers don't care mapping public_transport in all its subtleties, however they can simply want to map a __ | | platform by the side of a road when they spot one, and | | bus_stop also. Yves Le 9 avril 2018 23:59:21 GMT+02:00, Michael Reichert <

Re: [Tagging] wetap specific tags

2018-03-24 Thread Yves
The changesets are available to know who change what and when! Yves___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Canoe route

2018-06-28 Thread Yves
with with whitewater tags if you're looking for another hobby? This usually helps in the long run to have more people interested in mapping stuff like this. Yves Le 28 juin 2018 18:41:14 GMT+02:00, Dave Swarthout a écrit : >Hi, > >I've asked this question before on OpenStreetMap Help a

[Tagging] Highway=track and piste:type=nordic, are we doing it right ?

2018-10-13 Thread yves
for this kind of mapping. Not my preferred one, it's a great tool. Yves [2] Are preset tags exclusives? https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/5398 [1] One_feature,_one_OSM_element https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-22 Thread Yves
them rot. Yves ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-24 Thread Yves
I agree with Frederick here, lgbtq=yes looks like the access tags. This discussion also reminds me the motorcycle-friendly thread not so long ago. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/motorcycle_friendly Yves Le 23 octobre 2018 20:27:04 GMT+02:00, Rory McCann a écrit : >Hi

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

2018-11-07 Thread Yves
in simple cases. Yves Le 7 novembre 2018 17:08:50 GMT+01:00, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : >Am Mi., 7. Nov. 2018 um 16:40 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny < >matkoni...@tutanota.com>: > >> 7. Nov 2018 08:27 by daveswarth...@gmail.com: >> In the case of the pipeline,

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

2018-11-07 Thread Yves
Dave, Not that what you say doesn't make sense, cause it does. However I just think that the wiki is not the bible (it's a wiki), secondly OSM is not that square as it is made to be edited by hand. Keep it simple here just means that mapping a way is simpler than a relation for most. Yves

Re: [Tagging] Using multipolygons to map bays in Alaska

2018-11-15 Thread yves
there is. I would incline in your direction Christoph, do you have a map example or a postgis query to show ? It's hard to understand for non techies how this could work with just a node and the coastline. Yves ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] relation site <> multipolygon

2018-10-02 Thread Yves
the forest between pistes. Yves Le 2 octobre 2018 17:07:11 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : >2. Październik 2018 12:36 od marc_marc_...@hotmail.com ><mailto:marc_marc_...@hotmail.com>: > > >> Le 02. 10. 18 à 11:46, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : >> > Can y

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a named river bend

2018-09-27 Thread Yves
I think it would be hard to restrict natural=* to a node, but then, which way? Not a good idea IMHO. Yves ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 108, Issue 162

2018-09-29 Thread Yves
For the rare case a 'section' should have two names, the smallest part can have it I guess. Instead of section or reach, there's :part, like in building:part. Le 29 septembre 2018 11:24:29 GMT+02:00, Joseph Eisenberg a écrit : >Practically, if the ways overlap, it may be hard to render the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a named river bend

2018-09-30 Thread Yves
Fine for me. Yves Le 30 septembre 2018 06:19:21 GMT+02:00, Dave Swarthout a écrit : >Correct. I will split the river way at either end of the bend and apply >the section tags to that piece only. The river continues to have its >own >name tag while the bend has only the tags needed

Re: [Tagging] Traffic_sign discussion

2018-10-11 Thread Yves
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