glancing at my wrist.
It is still common to see people wearing watches. I now wear a smartwatch,
meaning that I can check who called or texted me without having to pull out and
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Is a bridge in flood usable? I think not.
This discussion is about rare, special bridges that are used for such a
purpose. They are usually in places that flood where emergency access is still
required, or they are the only means of accessing an otherwise inaccessible
area.
Normally, when
You could use a light meter to measure how bright the light is. That isn't
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That's not a flaw - you've already given the solution in your own email:
Basically you want to label restaurants/shops only if they offer something
different from what's the typical local fare.
,
only the frequency of rainfall is different.
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On January 15, 2015 3:13:38 AM Christoph Hormann chris_horm
On Jan 15, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote:
On Jan 14, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Wolfgang Zenker wrote:
In my experience a wadi will go from completely dried up waterway or
small stream to a raging river within a few seconds after some
rainfall upstream, and back to its
Would this be appropriate for the automated recycle centers that weigh
recyclables and gave you credit? It is basically a dumpster with a scale and a
terminal, but you leave behind cardboard, paper, etc for recycling. It's
usually very limited in what they accept.
Or is this thing just an
In the same manner, in some US states, cities and towns are subordinate to
counties. In some other US states, such as Virginia, towns are subordinate
to counties but cities are on the same administrative level as counties.
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00:17, John Willis wrote:
Similarly, animal sacrifice and practicing voodoo at the airport's prayer
room might get you arrested.
Not even poodles? :)
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-January/020847.html
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prayer room
might get you arrested.
Multi seems the best fit.
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On 09.01.2015 13:52, John Sturdy wrote:
Wouldn't it be simplest to leave the religion or denomination tag
out, if the facility isn't specific
Wouldn't it be simplest to leave the religion or denomination tag
out, if the facility isn't specific to a particular religion or
denomination?
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On 09/01/2015 01:53, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote on
I think there is a big difference between a 5 story tall net (held up by
massive poles) and a fence. If it was a 5 story tall fence or wall, we'd call
it a building or a dam or something.
These giant nets usually found near ballsports need their own tag - or maybe a
new value of fence=net or
Volkmann b...@volki.at wrote:
On 07.01.2015 02:43, John Willis wrote:
I think there is a big difference between a 5 story tall net (held up by
massive poles) and a fence. If it was a 5 story tall fence or wall, we'd
call it a building or a dam or something.
I would call it a fence
I thought tat was a feature, to actually deprecate the landuse from the
buildings, so we don't have the similar issue again of a building and area
rendered the same.
If -carto rendered landuse=religious, then the POW would be tagged on
buildings, sitting on the landuse with hopefully a
That is how I had interpreted access=destination also. Just because it has
a specific legal meaning in the UK doesn't mean the tag can't be used
elsewhere in the world.
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The situation in India could mean that a congregation was meeting on that
site, and planned to construct a building there, but had not yet done so.
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So a reasonable solution would be to tag roadways as access=private if they
can only be used by specific people such as residents or maintenance
vehicles, and access=destination if the general public can use them to
enter a particular area, but can't use them as a through route.
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On Jan 3, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote:
Since when do we use ways for landuse=* ?
Also I have not found a single one that is tagged like you say. They are all
areas.
I think he means closed way = area, as landuse implies area=yes .
Javbw
Why
It was over 5 meters in some places along the coast, but only a very small
part. Under the ocean, it was 25m.
Most of japan stayed put, but the northern section along the coast was
stretched a bit wider, but the coast sank about 1m, so with coastal flooding,
japan didn't get that much bigger.
pause to allow a vehicle going the other direction to pass
by. Given how sparsely-populated some of the northern regions of Canada
are, I would not be surprised to find some one-lane roads, and some
extensive areas with no roads at all.
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On 12/30/2014 03:16 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
On 12/29/2014 04:16 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
I rolled the map-roulette wheel, and found a series of highways in
Canada marked with lanes=-1, all part of a CANVEC import.
I see 17,943 uses of this value: it's less popular than 5 lanes but more
On Dec 29, 2014, at 3:20 AM, Andy Street a...@street.me.uk wrote:
I notice a quicky increasing number of oneway=no tags on roads,
probably due to editors offering some flashy list box for the oneway
key.
If you mistakenly check the one way box on a road preset in iD, unchecking
the box
Semi temporary buildings are usually called portables. Schools I have been to
in the US will have them in place for several years, though they lack a
foundation and can be moved away whole or in sections as a truck trailer -
similar to a mobile home. Although the method is not similar, the
of governmental buildings and services.
Your input is appreciated.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dcivic
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On 12/15/2014 08:31 AM, Simone Savio wrote:
Hi propose
are removed.
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On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:44 AM, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
Semi temporary buildings are usually called portables. Schools I
have been
to in the US will have them in place for several years, though
? An information office? The concept exists in
English.
Ufficio pubblico looks like it would translate as public office;
again, the concept exists in English.
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I would not be surprised to find some establishments where the emphasis is on
food up through mid-evening, but the kitchen closes earlier than the bar does,
leaving the final hours of operation to offer only beverages and perhaps some
precooked snack food.
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to more than just the entrance to the mine.
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Interesting! Those are huge cycle ways! Here in japan, they designate small
service roads normally blocked with bollards as cycle ways, as the distances
covered between the intersecting roads are very long (1-2km sometimes) and
sometimes more direct than the road system - but nothing more a
suggested in that thread.
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On Nov 18, 2014, at 9:50 PM, François Lacombe fl.infosrese...@gmail.com
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How would you tag a mail relay box differently ?
Such relay boxes are key-part of national postal infrastructure.
I thought it fit well enough, so I voted yes. I also saw a solution to my
cabinet problem as
as it is intended for fellow mappers).
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as it is intended for fellow mappers).
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The Caspian Sea, the Dead Sea, and the Great Salt Lake are all landlocked
bodies of salt water. There are other salt lakes around the world, plus various
brackish bodies of water (of an intermediate degree of saltiness). The Sea of
Galilee is fresh water. Language is imprecise.
On November
That is an interesting question. I think that falls outside the goal of this
tag but I am unsure. In America, Amtrak is nationalized, but I think most of
their facilities would fall under transportation related things - railway
stations, etc. but their main office, which is not a train station,
An example would be where the sign had fallen off, or been stolen by vandals.
On October 29, 2014 8:05:10 AM CDT, Martin Koppenhoefer
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2014-10-29 14:01 GMT+01:00 Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org:
Then it happens that a 3 m bridge that for some reason has no sign
I was tagging tracks in the desert, and ran across some similar issues. Some of
the tracks are abandoned because they were no longer needed/ wanted
(officially) in a wilderness park, or heavily damaged or unmantainable because
of the road's position in a ravine. But people who want to use the
Speaking of permanent structures, is there a recommended way of tagging a
maxheight that is temporarily lower, such as when scaffolding is erected under
a bridge for painting or repairs?
On October 24, 2014 6:10:48 PM CDT, Kytömaa Lauri lauri.kyto...@aalto.fi
wrote:
Personally, i use
On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Bryan Housel br...@7thposition.com wrote:
Your description of a mall as an enclosed place makes sense to me, but where
I live they seem to call anything a “mall”.
Here is the Watchung Square Mall”: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/258702838
and the “Valley
for a bank, florist, coffee shop,, dry
cleaner, or a donut shop. But 3 little stores doesn't make it a mall. A mall
is a big, special place.
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On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:22 AM, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Bryan Housel br...@7thposition.com wrote
At least in the USA, mall usually refers to a group of stores around a
pedestrian-only courtyard, often with a common roof over both the stores and
the courtyard space, and sharing a common parking lot. Shopping center usually
refers to a linear or C-shaped group of stores, with a common
I haven't noticed one for several years, but there used to be stores that
specialized in selling greeting cards and small ornamental gifts. Hallmark
greeting cards had a retail chain.
On October 20, 2014 7:34:19 PM CDT, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
When I think of a stationery shop,
On Oct 14, 2014, at 9:39 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:
I think we should have notability, like Wikipedia.
Every time I mention importance or similar, everyone gets in a huff, as they
think that it will start an edit war or something. We trust mappers to do
everything, and make
Since the mapper of the saddle knows the direction, why can't the saddle have a
directional icon rendered if it is on a way that represents the passable
section of the saddle, following the ridgeline? Simple and effective. I'm sure
the mapper understands the direction of the saddle quite
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Andreas Labres l...@lab.at wrote:
Any suggestion how to tag a transport company (a company forwarding goods,
don't
know how you call these guys from the Güterbeförderungsgewerbe like DPD etc.
in English)?
The companies often refer to their sector as
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2014-10-07 14:57 GMT+02:00 johnw jo...@mac.com:
For example, I'm a foreign resident in Japan. I have to visit the regional
offices to renew my visa every year or so. It's always a busy
Chimney sweeps still exist in the USA, although they offer a variety of
services. The usual term for the industry is Heating/Ventilating/Air
Conditioning Repair, often abbreviated to HVAC Repair. I had my chimney cleaned
a few years ago. The technique used was a powerful, truck-mounted vacuum
Compacted usually means compacted earth (the soil has been packed more densely,
but no other hard surface has been added). A dirt road simply has the native
soil exposed, with perhaps some grading done, but again no topping added. To
my mind, neither of these count as paved.
On September 30,
So, if you have an intersection of two streets, with one traffic signal facing
each direction, each of the four traffic signals will have its own distinct
name?
On September 29, 2014 4:45:33 PM CDT, Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com wrote:
The case of Japan is different. In Japan, the name
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Andrew Guertin andrew.guer...@uvm.edu wrote:
landcover=forest
anywhere there's trees on the ground
This doesn't agree with my (British English) understanding of the
terms; a wood can be small, but a forest is always large. Small and
large being loosely
It is my understanding that Britain also uses the true statements that
harm a reputation are libel, but that it is mainly used against the news
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I am American, and the concept of a toll cycleway is not one I have
encountered either.
On September 22, 2014 3:55:03 AM p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
Toll? I assume that means the same in US English as in UK English?
You really have to pay to use cycleways? How is the toll collected and
It should be pretty trivial to have the area share nodes with the highway ways
where the signals would normally be mapped. Like drawing a square around a
tic-tac-toe board, but the shared nodes are only on one side at a time.
Also, I think It could also share nodes with the walkways and other
Another difference between college dormitories and apartments is that
dormitory rooms usually lack cooking facilities, and, at least in older
buildings, may have communal toilet/shower facilities rather than en suite
facilities.
On September 20, 2014 8:47:08 AM sabas88 saba...@gmail.com
The name tag can be whatever it is, but making a amenity=soapland might be what
you are looking for. That way there is no confusion with massage places and
clearly understood to be for adult services.
Javbw.
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Mishari Muqbil
Yeah sadly it is fairly complex to display different icons in different
locations. Not something we will doing in OSM carto for a good while.
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Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:07:56 +0900
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for shop=bicycle
or
shop=skateboard alone.
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Yea, there needs to be a better framework for adding shops that are not in the
system is a manner that is consistent, and possibly can work with -carto to
have icons added by users without so much hassle.
Here in japan, they have several different types of fast food, quick
restaurants, and
because avast! Antivirus
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I think you mean 19.09.2014 ;-)
2014-09-02 7:03 GMT-03:00 Heiko Wöhrle m...@heikowoehrle.de:
Hi everybody,
i would like to bring the tag nudism to vote
Several issues of the discussion have
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Why use contact: here, when it's not used by the majority anywhere else.
+1
2014-08-29 22:46 GMT-03:00 Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de:
I don't want to change the addr:-, website-, phone-, fax- or
email-key!!! I never said it.
As Tobias pointed out, we have to look at the bigger
: http://www.betonkanu-regatta.de/
;-)
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amenity=religious_ablution or similar would be better indeed.
2014-08-31 10:19 GMT-03:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com:
I don't know about that. I only wanted to point out that there are other
usages of that word. The religious context is only one of several so there
might be some
The character plus (+) is an unusual character for keys indeed.
I believe it's because people usually say x=y + a=b when talking about a
combination of two tags.
2014-08-29 11:36 GMT-03:00 Andreas Neumann andr-neum...@gmx.net:
The problem is the + and the space sign. Both are bad chars for a
things besides village commons. I agree that this is an
overly-vague definition.
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For a street, there is no practical difference nowadays between no
and unset, which is a smell for me. Either way means no.
For the software? No, there isn't a difference.
For the mapper? Yes, there is a difference.
Since nowadays NULL for a street means oneway=no a change in the
semantics
Map Features page right now.
I just want people to avoid this kind of Map Features Template on normal
pages.
Cheers, John
2014-08-27 5:22 GMT-03:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:36 PM, John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com
wrote:
Some people like these templates because
=place_of_worship.
Also, I believe amenity=place_of_worship is enough for indicating the
religious area in most cases.
Cheers,
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[1]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Alanduse%3Dreligious
[2]: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/10262
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by adding them in the english page.
But this new value appears in english, so in my opinion it kinda defeats
the purpose of the non-english page...
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[1]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:contact
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And I feel like most of the values would better fit with a key like
amusement _ride= or amusement _ride:xxx=yes.
Now that you mentioned I just remembered.
There is a proposal that uses the key attraction=* for describring objects
from theme parks, zoos, etc.
See
English colleagues can agree on the separator space
or hyphen.
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I don't agree with the tourism=attraction argument.
Isn't a museum a touristic attraction too?
At least as much as an aquarium.
Yet we don't tag it as tourism=attraction + attraction=museum
As long as it is documented on the wiki, it shouldn't be a problem for
people making queries in OSM.
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Hi John,
yes i would like to bring that to vote.It is an attempt to unify the
tagging for this purpose.
I just changed the status to proposed and set a voting date.
Best regards,
Heiko
Am 19.08.2014 01:18, schrieb John Packer:
Heiko,
You added the key naturism
Mateusz,
You should use historic=wayside_shrine for wayside shrines, regardless of
whether they are historic or not.
Just like the tag amenity=place_of_worship is used even on grounds of
gnostic or atheist religions.
Cheers,
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2014-08-19 12:52 GMT-03:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni
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I'm not sure what is a gelateria.
Couldn't this be tagged simply with amenity=cafe + cuisine=ice_cream ?
2014-08-18 8:23 GMT-03:00 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com:
2014-08-14 10:40 GMT+02:00 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Hi,
On 08/14/2014 08:09 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
Perhaps such a category should only be tagged exactly when it's not linked
on a wikidata page.
Otherwise it seems unnecessary.
As Andreas mentioned, if people can add this tag even when it's linked on
the wikidata page, eventually people will start adding wikiquote=*
wikivoyage=* and so on.
I believe comma is used instead of semi-colon because the key
addr:housenumber frequently gets rendered, and comma is the common
separator symbol for end users.
2014-08-18 11:04 GMT-03:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
Hey
On the English wiki page [1] comma is the proposed separator for
Some automatically evaluations to find tags with low numbers under main
name space would be useful, as I find these kind of page quite often and it
would ease administration.
I think that's the closest to what you want:
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/taginfo/apidoc#api_4_keys_all
Andy,
Usually there is no problem in creating a page documented the key or tag
you want to use.
I don't think this case is an exception.
The only thing is that a key/tag documented without a proposal is more
likely to have a future merge/redefinition/deprecation/etc.
2014-08-18 18:57 GMT-03:00
For example, I consider it problematic to duplicate the functionality of
the image key by allowing links to individual images. And I guess there
will be different opinions whether a wikidata link should always replace
commons links or whether they should coexist.
+1
2014-08-18 19:38
Heiko,
You added the key naturism=* to the proposal.
Is this also being voted on, or is the proposal just mentioning there are
some uses of this other key ?
2014-08-18 20:08 GMT-03:00 Heiko Wöhrle m...@heikowoehrle.de:
Hi everybody,
i'd like to readdress an old draft from Xan, that has
- way: addr:housenumber=1; my_tag=nothing_known_elsewhere; render=pink
- way: addr:housenumber=2; other_tag=known_only_by_me; render=yellow
- way: addr:housebumber=3; my_private_tag=dont_use_it; render=violet
- way: addr:housebumber=4; unique_tag=only_taginfo_knows_me;
One question.
How would people map a cave?
As far as I know, GPSes don't really work underground, and obviously there
is no sattelite imagery for them.
I imagine that's why there is no scheme right now.
2014-08-14 8:22 GMT-03:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com:
On 2014-08-14 12:31,
Plus, our mapping scheme is limited in its ability to record three-dimensional
spaces. I don't know how we would map this is one continuous passage, but with
a deep pit in the center, so you will need special equipment to bridge the gap.
On August 14, 2014 6:35:52 AM CDT, John Packer
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe not completely obvious, but I would agree with Janko. In my opinion, a
tunnel is man-made, while a cave is not.
On the whole, yes, but there are some artificial underground cavities
that are referred to as
Forget routing in caves. There's no GPS. And those who get lost without
routing apps will get lost in a cave anyway.
+1
2014-08-14 12:32 GMT-03:00 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at:
On 14.08.2014 13:18, Dan S wrote:
I think that it is an obvious idea, but wiki claimed that At the
moment
Just noticed that some mappers resort to adding building=yes or similar to
make it render at all.
Note that bridges that are buildings actually exist. [1]
But adding building=* to a bridge when it's not the case would be tagging
(incorrectly) for the renderer.
[1]:
I think it should be website:payment:bitcoin=yes instead of
payment:website:bitcoin=yes
2014-08-13 9:20 GMT-03:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com:
I'm ok with that.
A shop that has online Bitcoin paying:
shop=computer + payment:website:bitcoin=yes + website=http://www.shop.com
An office of
are in a bridge/viaduct, they are
drawn as separate bridges.
Drawing the area of the bridge would solve that.
Cheers,
John
2014-08-12 6:26 GMT-03:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:23:35AM -0400, Christopher Hoess wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:57 PM, SomeoneElse
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