Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature proposal - Tag:natural=wadi

The wadies I have encountered in the desert regions of the western US states seem all to have ephemeral borders. Every time water flows down the "border" changes. Also the center line in most cases is difficult to determine. BTW many of thr rivers here in Northern Italy that have their springs in t

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Deprecating demolished railway tags

I put a comment in the discussion page, which is a pointer to the outline of a counter-proposal. Please have a look. Thank you On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 at 05:31, Ewrt1 OSM wrote: > This proposal aims to deprecate all Demolished Railway tags. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Deprecatin

Re: [Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

Sett around here looks very similar. It wiggles when I am on a bike, and it's set in sand. On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 at 00:35, Yves via Tagging wrote: > Interesting, this could also be used to let water in the ground in order > not to cause subsidence by drying out the underground. Maybe we shouldn't

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

Could you give some more examples to illustrate what the problem is that you want to resolve. On Sun, 8 Oct 2023, 00:23 Kevin Kenny, wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 4:50 PM Andrew Hain > wrote: > >> I have started a new proposal: that the name tag should be restricted to >> the same meanin

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

Thinking about why people may be doing this, and based on recent experience: You come across a bicycle or hiking route sign "on the ground", but have no idea what relation it is referring to. So you tag it as name, just for the time being. Il giorno sab 31 dic 2022 alle ore 18:50 Anne- Karoline Di

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

different meaning, i.e. "oneway for vehicles". On Mon, 11 Sep 2023, 08:03 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging, < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > Sep 10, 2023, 23:37 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > > > On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 01:25, Niels Elgaard Larsen > wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

Be careful: oneway=* is a legal access tag, only valid for vehicles, not for pedestrians. On Sat, 9 Sep 2023, 07:05 Andrew Harvey, wrote: > I have previously proposed the tag path=mtb > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Tag:path%3Dmtb as a way to > say it's a purpose built mountain bi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

This is a frequent tagging problem. bicycle=* , oneway=* , and oneway/bicycle=* are tags describing the legal access status. So does highway=path (it implies, in many jurisdictions, foot=yes and bicycle=yes). There is a way to indicate a route is a MTB route, and also that such route is technical

Re: [Tagging] Streets with gradually increasing widths

maxwidth is a legal limitation, typically signposted. width is used on barriers as physical width of the passage. maxwidth:physical is sometimes used to indicate the same concept on roads. width is used to indicate the physical width of the carriageway. It is typically used to indicate that a ve

Re: [Tagging] Streets with gradually increasing widths

Two points. (1) Do not redefine width as medium width. (2) Do not propose tagging of ways that does not survive splitting the way On Tue, 15 Aug 2023, 18:11 Sebastian Gürtler, wrote: > > Am 15.08.23 um 14:56 schrieb Greg Troxel: > > >> If there are no objections, I'lpl add a section about the

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

I read this discussion with interest (as end user) and ignorance router-wise. Some unsorted early-morning thoughts on this subject: When trying to reach a destination that is defined by a complete address (city, street name, house number or name) is that the last meters of the route are, potentia

Re: [Tagging] road accident memorials

In South America wayside crosses with artificial flowers and, often, a small mound, are very frequent. All the ones I looked at, were memorials for road accident victims. On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, 09:27 Marc_marc, wrote: > Le 11.06.23 à 13:29, Anne-Karoline Distel a écrit : > > https://www.openstreet

Re: [Tagging] Area of young trees - saplings

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Plant_nursery (approved) On Wed, 17 May 2023 at 10:08, Anne- Karoline Distel wrote: > Landuse=forest plus start_date then maybe? That would imply their age. > > -- > Sent from my Android phone with WEB.DE Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > On 16/05/202

Re: [Tagging] Tagging type of ownership of a road

Ownership is not relevant if you think in terms of fixmystreet.. Just two extreme examples. - The Italian Motorway network is owned by the Italian via a state-majority public company, and operated by several different private or state-owned companies that to all effects own specific parts

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

y traversable >>>> (mountable) dome or island." >>>> >>>> As it is traversable, does it really have a diameter? Or, if there is a >>>> painted circle (are traversable domed area) on the ground, perhaps that >>>> has >>>&

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

I do have a typical traversable roundabout close by. hgv=no is not correct, there are commercial activities around that need hgv access. The roads are adequate for that The angle between incoming roads is not a suitabla measure, as the traversable roundabout has a circular "belly", providing addit

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

The mm is because it's intended do describe water tubes and pipe threads, and not roads. That is why I have doubts using it for the mini-roundabout. On Sat, 28 Jan 2023, 09:20 Mark Reidel, wrote: > On Sat, 2023-01-28 at 00:53 +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > What I am after

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

that triggered the question is this one <https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1288570081954544>, and it has a diameter of about 12m, and, yes, it is a mini-roundabout. Volker Il giorno ven 27 gen 2023 alle ore 22:35 Florian Lohoff ha scritto: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 09:2

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

eter? Or, if there is a > painted circle (are traversable domed area) on the ground, perhaps that has > a diameter, but does it matter to any prospective map user? > > Regards, > Peter > > Peter Neale > t: 01908 309666 > m: 07968 341930 > > > On Wednesday, 2

[Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

Is there an established way to tag the diameter of a mini-roundabout? We have the tag diameter, but I could not find it applied to mini-roundabouts. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

Hi François, Il giorno gio 12 gen 2023 alle ore 19:44 François Lacombe < fl.infosrese...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Hi Volker, > > Le jeu. 12 janv. 2023 à 12:02, Volker Schmidt a > écrit : > >> The present vs future tagging table is flawed. >> The landuse column

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

The present vs future tagging table is flawed. The landuse column shows values that are rarely used. Industrial=water (500 uses) in practice is tagged as man_made=water_works (30k+ uses). "sewerage" land use exists and is in practice tagged as man_made=wastewater_plant (75k uses). Generally speaki

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

I would say that storage tanks, as default, are closed. So a man_made=storage_tank in OSM is closed. Secondly if a tank is closed (at the top), this is called a roof. There are fixed roofs and floating roofs. See as an example this manufacturer's web site: https://www.wermac.org/equipment/storage_t

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a point-of-interest sign

by a local prankster, but this one seems right. > > On 12/29/22 11:52, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > I have now checked on Gmaps: that sign is not on the continental divide, > but it is announcing the continental divide. About 175m further there is an > identical sign on the other side o

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

I know this problem from cycle routes. Individual ways that are part of a hiking or cycling route should normally not carry the name of the route. First because in most cases it will be factually wrong, but also such invented names will make it difficult to find ways with genuinly missing names in

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a point-of-interest sign

Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > This example should also be mapped as a pass, with a node tagged > mountain_pass=yes on the highway, with the elevation > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 2:26 PM Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> I would like to tag signs that do

[Tagging] How to tag a point-of-interest sign

I would like to tag signs that do refer to Points of Interest like this example ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Crossing cleanup and deprecation

This proposal is incorrectly giving the impression that it is in the spirit of the crossing:markings tag. This tag was meant to complement and refine the existing tagging of crossings in some cases, but certainly not to replace, wholesale the "crossing" key The crossing:markings key describes the p

Re: [Tagging] service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions

Most of the highway objects along waterways around here (Po Valley, Northern Italy) that are not open to public motor traffic, and wide enough for dual-track vehicles, are, in my view correctly, tagged as highway=track. They are used for waterway maintenance and for agricultural purposes on the ad

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

Just to make the list complete: Around here (or at least in my city and nearby towns) we have regular open air markets with assigned locations for specific stalls. Do we already have a mapping approach to that type of stalls? (I couldn't find one). If we really don't have one already, it might be w

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - historic

I think the best way out is to think detached from the meaning of the strings of characters we use for tagging. Let's document that we have have certain values for the key "historic" that describe objects that are not historic, and not even old. After all the purpose of the wiki is to describe the

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

I would like to contribute to this discussion my, maybe subjective, impression that we have an inflation of proposals. Many of them are interesting, others look less so. In any case, personally I have de facto stopped contributing to these proposals for simple lack of time. I also would like to add

Re: [Tagging] dinosaurs

Do you have a feeling how many "archeologic" sites in OSM are in reality palaeontological? I fear this is a frequent error, but difficult to spot. On Sun, 16 Oct 2022, 17:33 Anne-Karoline Distel, wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm doing a huge tidy-up amongst the values for "site_type", documented > in

Re: [Tagging] Hvad stiller vi op med tour de France ruterne?

On Sat, 15 Oct 2022, 20:02 Marc_marc, wrote: > Hello, > > Le 15.10.22 à 18:55, Volker Schmidt a écrit : > > ( > > It is certainly not something that can be represented > > by a bicycle route relation. > > witch issue did you see ? > It's not signposted

Re: [Tagging] Hvad stiller vi op med tour de France ruterne?

(using Google's English translation of the Danish text) In addition a bicycle route has to be signposted. I doubt that the the fact that the TdF in a given year ran over a certain set of roads is something that is to be inserted in a geographical database, as is OSM. It is certainly not something

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

The parcel locker that I use is both for picking up goods and for returning goods. I presume that this is the standard functionality for parcel lockers. Il giorno sab 15 ott 2022 alle ore 17:46 Illia Marchenko < illiamarchenk...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > > сб, 15 окт. 2022 г

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

enk...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > > сб, 15 окт. 2022 г., 11:41 Volker Schmidt : > >> Around here we have many instances of self-service parcel-locker inside a >> shop that is inside a building. The shop does not occupy the entire >> building, the locker is only

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

Around here we have many instances of self-service parcel-locker inside a shop that is inside a building. The shop does not occupy the entire building, the locker is only accessible during shop opening times. There are also pick-up points in shops where a human being handles the operation (I know

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, 09:16 Martin Koppenhoefer, wrote: > in Italy, one and two cent coins have been abolished, they are not > accepted any more in shops, and while prices are still ending mostly with > 9, the sum gets rounded. > OT for this discussion: Where I live in Italy, one and two €cent c

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Tag capacity on benches without separation or not?

Can we not finish this useless discussion? The amenity=bench tag was created just for that purpose, benches. Some time later someone created the key seats to indicate how many people can sit on a bench, adding explicitly that the key capacity should not be used in that case. The addition that key s

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

A practical comment from an end user: it is helpful to know if a drinking-water point can be used to fill water bottles. Bubblers are tricky in that regard. BTW: a shower in many parts of the world may not "waste" drinking water, for example by using rain water. On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 13:47 Warin, <

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 12:20 Marc_marc, wrote: > imho only one main feature/objet : the stream bed > and car use it, a bit like a bicycle uses a road. > OT, but I cannot let it pass: Roads, in most cases, are dedicated to vehicles (including bicycles), pedestrians, horse riders, ..., unless there ar

Re: [Tagging] Can we assume surface=cobblestone:flattened to be an exact duplicate of surface=sett?

Sett <-> flattened cobblestone: Sett are roughly rectangular blocks, hewn from big blocks of stone (granite or basalt). Flattened cobblestones are made from roughly round cobblestones by flattening the part that faces the road surface. Cobblestones and pebbles are essentially the same: pebblestones

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

Preliminary remark: I have walked and hiked, done a couple of via ferrata, but so far only heard of scrambled eggs. My only source is the Wikipedia article on "scrambling". I have detected that in fact I have done some scrambles. Two of them close by. I went back to the tagging and they are tagge

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - guard stone

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 01:02 Paul Allen, wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 23:34, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > (perhaps the duck principle could be applied: it looks like a guardstone, >> it keeps the wheels on the road like a guard stone, hence it can tagged as >> a guard ston

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - guard stone

I forgot to follow up on two other aspects of this, sorry. A) how are they tagged when two of them are on both sides of a gate ? B) There are occasionally also rows of them in historic towns

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reservoirs, lakes, and ponds

eetmap.org> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 09:02, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> >> That we will have to live with two tags, or more, for the same thing is >> nothing new, what I don't like is to be pestered continuously to do things >> to objects that happen to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reservoirs, lakes, and ponds

r they the new tagging is better in some way.. On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 16:59, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 15:29, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> >> >> >> In addition, please consider that deprecated features are being flagged >> by editor sw on >&g

Re: [Tagging] Continuous shoulder rumble strips (CSRS)

ps in the US. On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 22:02, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jeremy Harris wrote: > >> On 20/12/2020 16:07, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> > Is there a tagging scheme for these bicycle killers >> > <https://www.m

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

Martin, the former ones ( http://www.valsassinanews.com/image/original/12663.jpg ) are "tables" ( traffic_calming=table) in OSM-speak - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming. I was referring to the latter ones as sau

[Tagging] Continuous shoulder rumble strips (CSRS)

Is there a tagging scheme for these bicycle killers ? I have encountered them on freeways and other major roads that allow cyclists, in the western States of the USA. In theory there should be no problem, as the cyclist is supposed to be on

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

These objects need a new tag, not a sub-tag of traffic_calming=bump (220k uses), for the simple reason that it has a different effect on the road users. I have myself tagged many such sausage-shaped bumps with traffic_calming=bump and no sub-tag. They slow down every vehicle, but are not as partic

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reservoirs, lakes, and ponds

383 813 *landuse* *reservoir* 334 450 *water* *reservoir* I think it does make no sense

Re: [Tagging] Rapids (whitewater) on rivers

There are area hazards around, like shooting ranges, and high electric fields around radio transmitters, and more likely others. I am not insisting on using the hazard key - I only noted similarities. On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 17:33, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Another argument against use of hazard

Re: [Tagging] cable:ferry

What is missing in the route=ferry tagging is any way of indicating the ferry type and/or size in general. That would include a reaction ferry, amongst others On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 09:36, joost schouppe wrote: > Hi, > > This article https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dferry > mentio

Re: [Tagging] Rapids (whitewater) on rivers --> Hazards

ered, or offering new proposals to expand the > usage. > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 5:02 PM ael via Tagging > wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:22:44PM +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> > I see this subject directly related to the "hazard" discussion

Re: [Tagging] Rapids (whitewater) on rivers

I see this subject directly related to the "hazard" discussion in the sense that I suggested to clearly define the difference between signposted hazards/dangers/warnings and un-signed such situations that are observable on the ground, and therefore are subject also to personal judgement. With other

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC 2 - Pumping proposal

My main point got lost: the proposal should explain how the mapping of pumps in pumping stations should be handled, short of using indoor mapping, especially as your cover photo shows an indoors pump in an industrial building. On Mon, 14 Dec 2020, 00:40 Brian M. Sperlongano, wrote: > François,

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC 2 - Pumping proposal

Missing at first glance: what is the mapper expected to do with pumping stations. We have around here in the Po valley, thousands of them for draining purposes., and I presume that places like the Netherland have considerably more of them. Many are housed in dedicated and locked buildings and they

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - crossing=priority

In principle a good idea. In the jurisdictions I am familiar with, any marked pedestrian crossing gives priority to pedestrians over the traffic on the crossed road. Unmarked crossing (no vertical sign, no horizontal sign) means no priority. And each country has developed their own tagging on how t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - barrier:guard_stone

My apologies, wrong link! The corner guard stone is here: https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/USu9htX8nw95mW77kSeZ7Q Volker On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 23:40, Alan Mackie wrote: > > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 17:03, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> My gard stone example on a buildi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - barrier:guard_stone

My gard stone example on a building corne is also useful for this part of the discussion. I know the place well and I know the local amateur history expert, and we talked about this specific stone, and also asked about its historic value. It

Re: [Tagging] Many historic=wayside_cross are not historic

likely sits on top of a Roman shrine for the local water goddess. My real question is: Am I correct that this is the accepted tagging after all, and that's it? On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 23:46, Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 22:33, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> I am sure some

[Tagging] Many historic=wayside_cross are not historic

I am sure someone has made this observation before me: Many historic=wayside_cross and historic=wayside_shrine are not historic objects in the sense of the definition of the wiki page Historic which reads: "The historic

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - barrier:guard_stone

Yes, that tag is a good idea. But, it is not a barrier on the way, but a single object off the way. Normally, but not always they come in pairs, but it does not always come in pairs. They are often corner stones. When there is a pair, i.e. one on each side, it would make sense to see it as a barrie

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

Traffic lights triggered by avalanches! Is that close enough, Martin? https://elearning.unipd.it/scuolaamv/pluginfile.php/19629/mod_resource/content/1/04_02%20difesa%20dalla%20valanghe.pdf I remember I saw them for the first time in 1985 in the Val Zoldana, Provincia di Belluno (SP251), but had n

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

Hi, I have been following this proposal with interest. I often have tried to tag hazards, and not found a good ways of doing it. We are now compiling a long list of hazards, including golf players crossing the road, but I see some basic aspects which are not being addressed (unless I missed somethi

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

There is another problem with animal paths completely apart from permissions: they may lead you to nowhere. (years back I nearly got lost in a labyrinth of footpaths in the dense macchia in Corsica. They were well visible and wide, but just high enough to walk for children, and were actually trodde

[Tagging] Segregated foot-cycle path with different surfaces

How do I correctly tag this way: OSM way 434742113 , Mapillary image It's a segregated bidirectional foot-cycleway: highway=path bicycle=designated foot=designated segregated=yes onewy=no Its ove

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Cycle Route Relations vs. Ways

The ways making up a cycle route typically have names themselves, and the Route name normally is not the name of the way, Hence in many cases this would be a mapping error, i.e. the name of the way is not correctly tagged in the database. There may be exceptions to this general, abstract statement

Re: [Tagging] Defining the meaning of capacity tag for tourism=camp_site

Looks like a good idea. In that context: When travelling with a bike and a small tent (applies equally to hikers) I have encountered the following issues: - camp sites that do not accept small tents - they only have places for caravans and large tents. - camp sites that do have areas de

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

I am confused on what the tag electricity= is intended for. You say in the first of the two proposals: " The parent key electricity would be used to tag the availabilty and source of electricity, i.e. whether a building or amenity has electrici

Re: [Tagging] What does bicycle=no on a node means?

Martin, please do not even think about deprecating a tagging that is heavily used.like highway=crossing with bicycke=no|yes|dismount I am already ignoring the frequent JOSM Warning about the deprecated crossing=island which JOSM shows me everytime I download a stretch of road that contains this tag

Re: [Tagging] What does bicycle=no on a node means?

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 09:46, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Generally, I would propose to only tag crossing =* on the crossing node, > but refrain from access like tags on this node (no bicycle or foot tags). > The access should be derived from the crossing ways. > This statement is only correct

Re: [Tagging] Crossing tagged on both way and node (was: What does bicycle=no on a node means?)

nyone in the router business listening in on this conversation? On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 17:39, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: > On 10/13/2020 6:30 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 17:41 Volker Schmidt wrote: > > I changed the crossing to the way we do it in many par

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to change key:man_made to key:human_made

May I remind my dear mapper friends, that tags are just that: tags. From the database point of view these are just couples of arbitrarily chosen, character strings. OSM uses a convention to make it easier to memorize these strings by using GB-English terms for them, but, I repeat that is just a con

Re: [Tagging] What does bicycle=no on a node means?

On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 22:16, Emvee via Tagging wrote: > On 13/10/2020 16:07, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > I don't try to solve it. I put in a short way for the crossing. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/781981138 is the first example that > came to mind for me. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ke9

[Tagging] bicycle lane on mini-rounabout

How do I tag a bicycle lane (way.Type element on a mini-roundabout (node-type element)?. Example: https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/-yxlx8FNVBHgMC7LH9eFNA Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a government job centre

If you go to the (admittedly, very short) wiki page for office=employment_agency, you find that the picture illustrating the tag shows a German "jobcenter" of the Agentur fuer Arbeit, which is a government agency. So I think your startin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity:source

The main problem is the ground truth. A mapper cannot verify the supply contracts. The only exception could be the presence of a generator on the premises. Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: [Tagging] "width" on streets: Time for a recommendation

May I injection another complication: In many jurisdictions the width available to the moving traffic is defined by white lines on the tarmac creating an additional safety/buffer zone between the marked parking spaces and the flowing traffic. On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, 12:52 Pieter Vander Vennet, wrote

[Tagging] highway=services on bicycle routes?

Can I use highway=services for a service stop on bike routes? It typically comprises restrooms, some kind of food service, bicycle repair tools/service, often bicycle rental. They go by different names. In Italy we have a number of "Bicigrill", a term "borrowed" from a trade mark for motorway fast

Re: [Tagging] admin, please remove this user from the list

Thanks, Marin for bringing this up. Same problem for me. Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

I think I mentioned this already in this context: in many countries you are not allowed to cross roads everywhere you like. In Italy, for example, you are by law required to use cross-walks, unless they are further than 200m from your actual position. I know that this is very theoretical, but it co

Re: [Tagging] "width" on streets: Time for a recommendation

Some thoughts that trouble me... To me it seems obvious that width values, independently on how they are measured, are at best estimates, as measuring them is in most cases dangerous or requires good technical equipment. I guess that most width values in the database are reality estimates (I don't

Re: [Tagging] Addition of highway=emergency_bay and priority_road=yes to Map Features?

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 10:00, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > emergency bays are quite common in Italy Italy: 622 ways 2020 nodes (not limited to motorways without emergency lanes - vedi esempio ) > and Germany when there isn’t an emergency

Re: [Tagging] "width" on streets: Time for a recommendation

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 10:34, Tobias Zwick wrote: > I plan to soon implement a "What is the width of this road" quest in > StreetComplete where the user can measure the width of the road using his > or her smartphone (similar to the app Measure from Google [1]). The app > will need to instruct th

[Tagging] sloped kerbs

How do you tag sloped kerbs/curbs like these. (I am referring to the zebra-striped sloped concrete borders of the traffic islands) barrier=kerb and kerb=sloped ? The kerb wiki page shows this

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

The double role issue, if it occurs, is there in either case, separate relation or role in the bicycle route relation. Regarding travel details of ferry/rail/bus sections within bicycle routes: This information, if available, should go on the the ferry/rail/bus route relations, as these means of t

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Keep it simple, if the simple solution does not limit you. For the mixed transportation aspect of bicycle routes, I have the gut feeling that separate relations for each segment are overkill. At the practical level, if you take Eurovelo1 (relation 2763798

Re: [Tagging] Confusion bicycle_road <> cyclestreet

Yes, there is a legal difference *bicycle_road* A German "Fahrradstrasse" (which is the prototype on which this tag seems to be modeled) is a road exclusively for bicycles in the sense that carries the the sign "Fahrradstrasse" without addition indicates that the carriageway of the road is reserv

[Tagging] Confusion bicycle_road <> cyclestreet

Hi, I have come across a new (to me) street sign In Italy: https://italy-cycling-guide.info/tips-advice/riding-in-italy/ The road is a one-lane residential road on which bicycles and pedestrians can circulate. I don't know the legal status, however (I am inquiring). In that contest I have noticed

Re: [Tagging] ref on roundabout

The route ref tag on a roundabout is the logical extension of the route ref on any other road that is part of route with that ref number. The arguments for putting the ref in the route relation and not on the ways making up the route are valid along for roundabout that are part of route. Trouble ar

Re: [Tagging] bridge:name and tunnel:name

I guess that what we have is another case of two (in reality three) tagging practices for (nearly) the same thing. name=* for a tunnel's name that is mapped with tunnel=yes seems to be common practice (at least 760 motorway tunnels in Italy are tagged this way). On the other hand we do have many tu

Re: [Tagging] ref on roundabout

That's the approach anyway for bicycle and bus route relations on roundabouts. Yes, it causes additional work, because you need to split the roundabout way, but I do not see a way to avoid that. Volker

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#m_-1065115381681509086_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 23:50, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 20. Aug 2020, at 23:18, Volker Schmidt wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

The footway= approach isn't so good. A canopy walkway is more a bridge type. On Fri, 21 Aug 2020, 00:28 Graeme Fitzpatrick, wrote: > > > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 07:50, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> Or maybe footway=canopy_walkway? highway= Footway and bridge=yes seem >> essential for a

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

What's wrong with "bridge" ? Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

With respect to the proposed key, I would invite you to consider an alternative way of tagging this function. In various countries and in various religions the approaches on how to say good-bye to the dead are different. I am thinking of the "camera ardente" in Italy or the "Aufbahrung" in Germany,

Re: [Tagging] new page for tree_lined=*

I love tree-lined roads in the country side or in city settings. I would love a router that I could instruct to find them for me. For travelling by car and by bicycle. In past periods trees were part of the road. I like the idea of easily adding this feature to the map. But I also fear the maintena

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