Re: [Tagging] Battery swapping spot in a charging station or being an individual tag?

2020-10-05 Thread ael
nity=battery_swapping;charging_station. I don't know why there are objections to multiple values, but that multiple tagging seems to be the most accurate if the community accepts it. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

2020-09-16 Thread ael
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 12:40:06PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Mi., 16. Sept. 2020 um 12:36 Uhr schrieb ael : > > > Yes. ISTR that the last time I tried to mark a crossing, zebra wasn't a > > option in the presets. But my memeory may be at fault. > > > >

Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

2020-09-16 Thread ael
But my memeory may be at fault. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-02 Thread ael
. > > Hi David -- My feeling is that often highway=service, without a > service=* tag, is a useful and valid tagging practice. +1 ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

2020-07-30 Thread ael
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:40:58PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 30. Jul 2020, at 10:39, ael wrote: > > > > often without survey, and then do not update the source, so > > that tag becomes completely misleading. > > that’s what happens

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

2020-07-30 Thread ael
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 01:55:45AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 26. Jul 2020, at 23:58, ael wrote: > > > > Adding such source tags to a changeset seldom makes sense. > > Most of my changesets are a mixture of local knowledge, surveys, gps, > &g

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

2020-07-26 Thread ael
cases. Of course, changesets need to have some overall source infomation, but that is necessarily coarse except for small cahnges perhaps. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Waterway equivalent of noexit=yes?

2020-07-18 Thread ael
jective describing the end of a waterway, I suppose. It is quite intuitive and descriptive. Maybe a tag along those lines: "dissipates" or some such? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Central European insight needed: cukrászda, cukrárna, cukiernia, ciastkarnia, cukráreň, pasticceria, konditorei, patisserie, ...

2020-06-30 Thread ael
finitely not restricted to places selling coffee. The distinction between fast-food and cafe' and even low end restaurants is a bit hazy. Fast-food is a fairly recent phase in British English, I think. Not precisely defined, but mainly for franchised chains. But I th

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

2020-06-21 Thread ael
n (goods or humans) and are designed to > accommodate boats (even if no longer used in that way). > +1. I have noticed this misuse of "canal" before. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-06-08 Thread ael
rrazed) to the ways that make up the road or the > cycle route. +1 ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Dog hazard

2020-05-13 Thread ael
Cornwall to flag open mine shafts, and in one case to warn of dangerous (illegal) dogs on a right of way through a farmyard. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] highway=service, service=driveway vs highway=track

2020-04-30 Thread ael
egotiate. I think a "road" normally implies navigation with a standard vehicle is possible. In general that implies at least some sort of paving. I would not be happy if someone changed a UK track into something else unless they have established that it had a proper surface. ae

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-ml] With leisure=common deprecated, Senegal & Mali need a replacement

2020-04-29 Thread ael
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 07:59:40PM +, Pierre Béland via Tagging wrote: > But I dont agree to deprecate the the leisure=common tag for Africa.  +1 ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listi

Re: [Tagging] Updating definition and description of place=square

2020-03-28 Thread ael
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:10:58PM +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > On 28.03.2020 12:45, ael wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:58:00PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > Piccadilly Circus (note the different word). > > > Is this a town square for British people? I

Re: [Tagging] Updating definition and description of place=square

2020-03-28 Thread ael
refer to it as a square. I would certainly find such a description bizarre. But then I wouldn't naturally call it a plaza either. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-15 Thread ael
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 08:15:32PM +, John Sturdy wrote: > I think that by default bollards are not removable, and that if a bollard > is not tagged as removable, it is reasonable to assume it's not removable. +1 ael ___ Tagging mailin

Re: [Tagging] Recycling diapers

2020-02-15 Thread ael
pers could be added > to the list. No, "diapers" is not British English: "nappies" . ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] implied surface values?

2020-02-13 Thread ael
ways), which is why asphalt is still a reasonable default. I would expect an explicit tag for anything which is not asphalt. Again we are talking about the UK here. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] implied surface values?

2020-02-12 Thread ael
A conventions. One reason that I find it irritating is where I have mapped roads very accurately and then armchair mappers come along with poorly aligned imagery with parallax errors and think they know better. So when I see any change in such places, I usu

Re: [Tagging] implied surface values?

2020-02-12 Thread ael
azon people do seem to be adding unnecessary and unsurveyed surface=asphalt tags to many roads in the UK which I find quite irritating. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

2020-02-06 Thread ael
it But the point is that in current British usage, the vast majority of fountains are "drinking_water=no". The natural meaning is a decorative feature in most contexts. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

2020-02-06 Thread ael
On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 12:22:13AM +, marc marc wrote: > i have in mind the proposal diaper<>changing table: totally ok for the Eh, except that OSM is supposed to use British English, and "diaper" should be nappy. ael ___ T

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

2020-02-06 Thread ael
ally accurate gps, on one element, but not the others with shared nodes. It is painful, time-consuming and tedious to have to separate the ways. Often I just don't bother and risk degrading previous information. But if people will share nodes, then it's too bad. The overhead in the database of som

Re: [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-07 Thread ael
s "Ostsee", etc. > > > > Please support (vote) my proposal or write a reason why not. > > For the count, +1 against. And another +1, against. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] pavement placed plaque

2019-12-20 Thread ael
eneric tag for waymarks, although there are lots of special cases like milestons. Perhaps we should have a waymark tag with subtags for material and orientation? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] disguised communication towers

2019-11-13 Thread ael
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 01:28:04PM -0800, Eric Theise wrote: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:17 PM ael wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 01:00:29PM -0800, Eric Theise wrote: > > > tower:type=communication > > > tower:construction=concealed > > > >

Re: [Tagging] disguised communication towers

2019-11-13 Thread ael
r:construction=concealed . I suspect that scheme did not exist back then. Perhaps I might add it sometime and use it in future now that I am aware of it. Your lack of results might just be because I am not the only one who had not come across this tag before: I s

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2019-11-07 Thread ael
f Corpus and possibly also of Christ Church. I will try to remember to check sometime. The "College Park" is, of course, "Christ Church Meadow". ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating mini_roundabout

2019-10-23 Thread ael
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:55:04AM +0200, Colin Smale wrote: > I would suggest it is not necessary to replace the simple node with a > circular way. I think it is perfectly acceptable if it is considered as a > simple turn instead of negotiating a roundabout, from a routing perspective. > An

Re: [Tagging] Strange tags

2019-09-29 Thread ael
well as more globally. Even if one local mapper with special local knowledge tags something only understood in a very small area, it is still improving the map. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Strange tags

2019-09-29 Thread ael
well known terms in the UK, so I would think they are valid and useful tags. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tag for a milk_shake shop?

2019-09-06 Thread ael
after all the suggestions, I have ended up with a surfeit of tags! amenity=cafe cuisine=milk_shake shop=beverages drink=milk_shake and perhaps the drink needs adjusting, or perhaps not. If forced to choose, I would remove the shop part: it seems nearer to a ca

Re: [Tagging] cuisine=milk_shake ? | Re: Tag for a milk_shake shop?

2019-09-05 Thread ael
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 04:48:42PM +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On > Thu, 5 Sep 2019 at 15:52, ael wrote: > > > Sounds a good idea. I have just switched it to > > shop=beverages and beverage=milk_shake, but adding > > > > beverage=* is logical but not docu

Re: [Tagging] cuisine=milk_shake ? | Re: Tag for a milk_shake shop?

2019-09-05 Thread ael
verage=milk_shake, but adding cuisine=milk_shake (I suspect singular is better) can't do anything but good. I will settle on that until someone comes up with anything better. Thanks, ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Tag for a milk_shake shop?

2019-09-05 Thread ael
gt; shop=dairy and > > dairy=milk_shake And we have established amenity=ice_cream, but shop=dairy and dairy=ice_cream would seem more logical, aside from the fact that some "ice_creams" don't contain much of a diary component. I digress ael, confused tagger. __

[Tagging] Tag for a milk_shake shop?

2019-09-05 Thread ael
? This is a reason why I am concerned that shop=yes is not being rendered in some cases. shop=yes seems a reasonable tag when there are no obvious tags. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-19 Thread ael
primary tag for such a place. The point is to indicate the sort of tagging already established for the trade tag, rather than to suggest anyone do that. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-19 Thread ael
good tag' as it can only be used with shop=trade. > > > Why? It can be added to any shop, > not only ones tagged with shop=trade. > > Though I agree "sells" would be a probably > more clear name. Again, sells is not equiv

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-19 Thread ael
sold. I simplify for brevity here. So you are overlooking the full semantics of the shop=trade tag. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-19 Thread ael
ly distinct way, and the documentation clearly notes the other use and indicates how they are distinguished, I guess it would be OK. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-18 Thread ael
On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 10:46:45PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 17. Aug 2019, at 22:36, ael wrote: > > > > But do we have any generic terms already? Unless > > you just mean office. > > > businesses can already be found in amenity (e.g.

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-17 Thread ael
an needing a precise definition. But do we have any generic terms already? Unless you just mean office. When I am mapping, I often find businesses that offer some service or other which may be of interest to some map users. I have been tagging them as "business" as I can't bri

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-17 Thread ael
dually evole and get used properly and gradually outnumber the old misused office tag. Should not be too onerous for data consumers? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-17 Thread ael
point was that as I understood things, the office tag was typically used to indicate a place of business, rather than a real office which may or may not included. Of course, I have no problem with tagging significant real offices with the office tag. ael ___

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-16 Thread ael
in many cases include a small office. I could never see the point in tagging offices which are of no intrinsic interest except perhaps to office equipment suppliers. But that is just my native UK viewpoint. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Definition of a Beach

2019-08-15 Thread ael
will be covered by the water (to a first approximation). But on reflection, even that may not be true for some sections of a beach. Portions that may be exposed at low tide could even have a negative slope, and still be a (hazardous) beach. ael ___

Re: [Tagging] Road hierarchy

2019-08-05 Thread ael
" means you don't know the class; > No. The tag highway=road says that the class is unknown. +1 ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Road hierarchy

2019-08-04 Thread ael
t of the interconnection grid, > while a residential road is not My reply was going to be much the same. Unclassified roads are generally for "through traffic". Residential raods are primarily for access to those buildings, and would not (norm

Re: [Tagging] Road hierarchy

2019-08-04 Thread ael
it > cant be a unclassified. How have you come to that conclusion? It flatly contradicts the normal meaning. Perhaps your local area uses the term "unclassified" in a way different from the OSM convention? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] shop=window(s) incorrectly deprecated in favor of craft=window_construction ?

2019-07-11 Thread ael via Tagging
Scheme? Maybe naics:id = in USA, sic:id in UK, and so on? So they could be useful in addition to the trade=whatever when appropriate. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] track smoothness/quality

2019-07-09 Thread ael via Tagging
or whatever to cover other sorts of track? They might not even need to be ordered, although then the alphabetic choice might be less straightforward? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] shop=window(s) incorrectly deprecated in favor of craft=window_construction ?

2019-07-09 Thread ael via Tagging
trade= ??? -- well, in my area I would probably use trade=double_glazing but something more general might be better since these places also supply UPV doors and the like, at least. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] shop=window(s) incorrectly deprecated in favor of craft=window_construction ?

2019-07-09 Thread ael via Tagging
facade which will then be produced and > delivered to you? > > While a shop like this may exist, I must admit I have never seen it. Can you > refer to a real example? Several in my area in UK. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-15 Thread ael via Tagging
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:00:19AM +0200, Allroads wrote: > First, the consensus in OSM is Sorry, but this thread is clear evidence that statement is false. And existing mapping also contradicts it. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagg

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

2019-06-13 Thread ael via Tagging
widths, I wouldn't know how to preserve the information with alternative tagging. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Status of oneway=cw oneway=ccw

2019-05-05 Thread ael via Tagging
something like "sorted=yes" which editors will always turn off unless the editor (or user) can verify that the sorting has been maintained? Provided that there is a well defined order relation, that should be something that editor could automate? ael ___

Re: [Tagging] shop=plumber vs shop=plumbing vs shop=plumbing_supplies

2019-03-28 Thread ael via Tagging
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 08:19:16AM +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 21:32, ael via Tagging > wrote: > > I invented the shop=trade after a suggestion on this list to consider > > subtags. > > > I was thinking about it & wondered abou

Re: [Tagging] shop=plumber vs shop=plumbing vs shop=plumbing_supplies

2019-03-27 Thread ael via Tagging
think that business alone is to all encompassing. But it is probably best to keep it simple. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] shop=plumber vs shop=plumbing vs shop=plumbing_supplies

2019-03-26 Thread ael via Tagging
for trade=?? when used in conjunction with (as a sub-tag of) shop=trade. But I think that the idea was to re-use trade in other contexts. I am a little uncertain whether that would be unambiguous. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://l

Re: [Tagging] shop=plumber vs shop=plumbing vs shop=plumbing_supplies

2019-03-26 Thread ael via Tagging
ly not small scale works. +1 > > Should we possibly have a trade= key to cover the office / workshop / shed > / factory unit where these specialists are located, or from where they work > out of? As long as it is clearly distinguished from the exiting use of trade. I fear c

Re: [Tagging] shop=plumber vs shop=plumbing vs shop=plumbing_supplies

2019-03-25 Thread ael via Tagging
supplies > - shop=plumbing_supplies is a good name for plumbing supplies shop but rarely > used Or shop=trade and trade=plumbing_supplies if it is largely aimed at trades people/professionals. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https:/

Re: [Tagging] tags for tutor or coaching out of school

2019-03-10 Thread ael via Tagging
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 06:33:46PM -0400, Jmapb wrote: > On 3/10/2019 6:16 PM, Warin wrote: > > > > > amenity=prep_school .. umm amenity ... not something I like to use. > > And prep_school tends to indicate preparation before going to school > > rather than extra work on top of school. > > > I

Re: [Tagging] Micronations

2019-02-09 Thread ael via Tagging
; In this case they have been mapped as a 'residential area' with that name ... > The basic question is ... is that area residential? But note the user name: it does suggest vandalism. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-02 Thread ael via Tagging
On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 10:22:30PM +, Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 22:09, Sergio Manzi wrote: > > > If you think it is important to differentiate between lined vs. unlined > > minor waterways (*and I'm not objecting to that*), I guess the best > > option would be to use a

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-02-02 Thread ael via Tagging
On Sat, Feb 02, 2019 at 12:22:01AM -0800, Mark Wagner wrote: > > My copy of the Oxford English Dictionary has about a page of > definitions for "ditch" and "drain", and not a hint that either of them > needs to be lined. +1 ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs. ditch

2019-01-16 Thread ael
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 09:45:21PM +, Paul Allen wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 21:24, EthnicFood IsGreat < > ethnicfoodisgr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have been tagging them as drains, because they > > are too small to be called a stream, and they are not artificial, so > > they are not

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-01-12 Thread ael
treams or Mill races are the usual terms. I am not familiar with any special terms for fountains: I would expect a phrase like "piped supply" in most (underground) cases. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.o

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-01-11 Thread ael
he point: it would be unnatural to tag them as canals! Some might overlap with culverts? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-01-11 Thread ael
oads. But normally drains and canals are quite distinct, so it would be unnatural in British English to remove drain. Yes, I do realise that the word canal is derived from channel. That sort of usage still applies in dentistry, as in a root-canal procedure. B

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-01-11 Thread ael
on is not high except in some special cases. The unqualified word "ditch" would normally be understood as an artificial unlined and usually small watercourse. But also, in certain contexts, for a historic trench acting as a defense or fence, not necessarily containing water. T

Re: [Tagging] Double, double, toil and trouble (how to map Witch's Cauldron?)

2018-10-07 Thread ael
On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 08:32:56PM +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 8:10 PM ael wrote: > > There are tags for caves in general and could be applied to a sea cave. > But the only way the > cave tags can be applied to a collapsed sea cave is to pretend the colla

Re: [Tagging] Double, double, toil and trouble (how to map Witch's Cauldron?)

2018-10-07 Thread ael
seen them with a dedicated tag. No doubt someone else will chip in the proper tags. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Dangerous waterways tagging: hazard?

2018-07-24 Thread ael
but for some incomprehensible reason it seems to be used rather rarely. Perhaps it is not in editor presets? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] waterway=fish_pass consistency

2018-07-19 Thread ael
uction nature could be used as a fish_pass? A fish pass near me is quite different to any other sort of waterway: the nearest 'usage' might be a spillway. But what is the main tag? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] public_transport=platform rendering on osm-carto

2018-06-22 Thread ael
ven't been able to tag a place without a platform as a "platform". ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] public_transport=platform rendering on osm-carto

2018-06-22 Thread ael
On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 01:26:37AM +0200, Yves wrote: > Why adding 'platform' where there's no physical platform? +1 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] A new Tag for "helicopter services"?

2018-06-18 Thread ael
he according landing field. > > I would setup a proposal for > > office=helicopter_service > > Of course, any other solutions are welcome as well :-) > > How are You thinking about this? I think it is not an office. An office is primary a place for cl

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Lounges

2018-06-11 Thread ael
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 03:12:49PM +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > > > On 10 June 2018 14:26:06 BST, ael wrote: > >> I am firmly, solidly and unswervingly opposed to "lounge" for this > >proposal. > > > >+1 > > > >In British English, a lo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Lounges

2018-06-10 Thread ael
British English, a lounge first and foremost is a room in a private dwelling. Other uses have "leaked in" from other dialets and while now fairly well understood in a limited number of contexts, they are still unnatural. ael ___ Tagging maili

Re: [Tagging] When was the deprecation of location=kiosk for power=substation discussed?

2018-04-26 Thread ael
g through a > hatch). +1 ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Storm attenuation ponds

2018-04-21 Thread ael
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 08:02:39PM +1000, Andrew Davidson wrote: > Have you looked at: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:basin ? > > On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 7:47 PM, ael <law_ence@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > I am uncertain how to tag the sorts of flo

[Tagging] Storm attenuation ponds

2018-04-21 Thread ael
guess the water is natural, even if the pond is artificial. That and water=storage_pond; covered=no ?? Ugly. Is there a good solution to this common situation? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and platforms

2018-04-08 Thread ael
On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 01:45:31PM +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:49 PM, ael <law_ence@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > > > In the context of buses, it tends to refer to the part of the vehicle > > where people may stand to alight or board. &g

Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and platforms

2018-04-08 Thread ael
On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 12:09:58AM +0200, "Christian Müller" wrote: > > Sent: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 22:51:40 +0100 > > From: ael <law_ence@ntlworld.com> > > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and

Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and platforms

2018-04-08 Thread ael
On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 12:09:58AM +0200, "Christian Müller" wrote: > > Sent: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 22:51:40 +0100 > > From: ael <law_ence@ntlworld.com> > > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and

Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and platforms

2018-04-07 Thread ael
I am sure that is the case. I have been bemused by the use of "platform" to describe a typical bus stop. Very definitely not BE in normal usage. I have wondered why other British English speakers have not commented. Maybe like me, they didn't feel strongly enough to intervene. ael _

Re: [Tagging] Road barrier

2017-11-24 Thread ael
_barrier.jpg> > I have tagged this sort of thing as a (fancy sort of) bollard. That was at the suggestion of another mapper in my local area. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-28 Thread ael
ss agricultural_supplies=* could be used to add the same information to the shop=trade version. Again, just an observation. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-28 Thread ael
uld be redundant to invent another tag. Not sure what a more general tag would look like. As pointed out earlier, the same objection could be raised to "shop", which isn't the first word that comes to mind for the large establishments, but again shop has come to mea

Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-25 Thread ael
s intended to cover such places as well. I should declare an interest. I originated that tag. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-25 Thread ael
s to fit very well with what you describe. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dtrade , although I don't know why the wiki page restricts it to equipment: it shouldn't. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstre

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread ael
eying improves or plate tectonics changes, it would be ridiculous to change the name rather than just the elevation. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Beautified JSON presets for natural=tree

2017-07-23 Thread ael
oples work without going out and checking the reality. As above, I need then to avoid trampling on other people's work. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Beautified JSON presets for natural=tree

2017-07-22 Thread ael
ughshod over existing carefully mapped data, often using outdated imagery. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Landuse for vacant lots

2017-03-14 Thread ael
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:27:40AM +1100, Warin wrote: > On 14-Mar-17 09:13 AM, ael wrote: > > > English is not my primary language, but it seems a little contradictory > > > here. > > > > > > "landuse" says that a specific piece of land is be

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-14 Thread ael
ite > right. > They are part of the river with special properties. > > So perhaps > natural=water + water=river > + stream_pool=yes Good point, but why introduce a new term "stream_pool"? Why not just pool=yes? ael

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-14 Thread ael
sh, ponds are generally static. That is the term is usually used when there is little or no flow. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Landuse and disused

2017-03-13 Thread ael
ng and disused as the only possible documented tags. So how do I avoid being one of your trolls, preferably while still getting the major features in an area rendered? Yes, I do also use the historic tag as well, where appropriate, but that has even less chance of a p

Re: [Tagging] Landuse for vacant lots

2017-03-13 Thread ael
se: they are quarries. Yet some people object to them being rendered on the basis of the superficial contradiction that you highlight. Maybe we need a tag=out_of_use or some such? But that is open to the same literal objection. ael ___ Tagging mailing li

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