Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Groundskeeping Shop

2019-03-12 Thread phil
I am not sure I understand this proposal, the term is completely new to me. Why would I not search for either garden equipment or lawnmowers if that is what I need? Phil (trigpoint) On Tuesday, 12 March 2019, lamplighter wrote: > This proposal is to create the tag shop=groundkeep

Re: [Tagging] Pets allowed

2019-03-07 Thread phil
On Thursday, 7 March 2019, Paul Allen wrote: > > Many shops and a few restaurants in my town display a sign somewhere saying > that dogs > are allowed. > Some pubs make dogs very welcome by providing biscuits and water bowls. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my

Re: [Tagging] Pets allowed

2019-03-07 Thread phil
vered by the law of the country, in the UK a hotel/pub/restaurant is not allowed to refuse assistance dogs. I assume the same is true throughout the EU. Phil (trigpoint) On Thursday, 7 March 2019, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > Hello ML! > > how can I tag and hotel (or whatever) th

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-24 Thread phil
tant as many sidewalks are singlefile for walking. sidewalk:left:width=0.6, or 1.5 etc kerb height - Again important, different heights are barriers for different people, different wheelchairs. sidewalk:left:kerb_height=10 cm. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla __

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-04 Thread phil
On Fri Sep 4 18:40:55 2015 GMT+0100, John Eldredge wrote: > Not to mention the amount of horse dung you are willing to have your bike > wheels fling up onto you. Many bridleways see very little horse traffic so its not often a problem. Mud however, lots of that. Phil (tri

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

2015-09-01 Thread phil
eway in England/Wales. Practicality will depend upon surface, type of bike and recent weather. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-28 Thread phil
leway. Your choice of bike is important in most cases, a town/road racer will not last very long. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] landuse=religious & Monastic schools

2015-08-21 Thread phil
Precinct is used around cathedrals, does that work? Phil ( trigpoint) On Fri Aug 21 11:53:52 2015 GMT+0100, Andreas Goss wrote: > In first though landuse=religious was supposed to be for all religious > institution and include more than a church yard. > > Now I read... > > &

Re: [Tagging] Describe explicitly that values of highway tag do not imply anything about road quality (except highway=motorway and highway=motorway_link)

2015-08-19 Thread phil
a cycleway, but not in Germany. > > highway=path > foot=yes > bicycle=yes > horse=yes > motor_vehicle=no > Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Local highways classifications

2015-07-17 Thread phil
xample. > > > > It doesn't do something like A5(M)? > The section through Telford was built first and was going to be, but it opened as the M54. http://pathetic.org.uk/lost/a5m/ The section of A5 between Telford and the M6 has been de-trunked to encourage traffic to use the

Re: [Tagging] Local highways classifications

2015-07-16 Thread phil
ere the route is a motorway. The A5, passing Telford, is a classic example. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-06-10 Thread phil
On Wed Jun 10 09:32:26 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I prefer leash_anchor over lead_hook because it is more generic and easier > to understand. > Leash is AE, lead is BE. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tag

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread phil
a UK equivalent. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread phil
can be a shop=tax_stamps_and_licenses? How do people call it? > Is a tax stamp some sort of vehicle tax? Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

2015-06-09 Thread phil
cash as well, no > compromising plastic needed ;-) > Why worry, the ANPR cameras will get you anyway. Do they give change? Otherwise how do you know how much to prepay? My own car I have an idea, within 4 litres but when filling a hire car (which must be returned full), I haven'

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread phil
e it. > Sounds reasonable, there are local offices in the UK, or at least in GB. Or amenity=licensing, driver=yes, vehicle=yes. This could then expand for other things requiring a license, shotgun=yes? Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread phil
On Mon Jun 8 15:48:01 2015 GMT+0100, Andreas Goss wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles > > amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing_agency > > Seems a bit long and while it's the name of the agency in the U

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-25 Thread phil
in common with other osm tags, are human readable. When reviewing changes I do not see a number that is meaningless without following the link, and even then the wikidata page looks pretty meaningless. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tag

Re: [Tagging] Removal of "amenity" from OSM tagging

2015-05-15 Thread phil
e bar.when its busy, to greet and pass time with strangers who come in. It is way more than a shop, probably the best example of an amenity there is. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://

Re: [Tagging] On appointment restaurant

2015-05-13 Thread phil
I would tag that as amenity=events_venue. Phil (trigpoint ) On Wed May 13 15:26:45 2015 GMT+0100, André Pirard wrote: > Hi, > > Either opening_hours=on_appointment is missing or amenity=restaurant > lacks a tag or an explanation. > > It is a restaurant indeed, but only hired

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

2015-05-13 Thread phil
s , buses and hgv's need to be tagged separately, i.e. maxspeed:hgv, maxspeed:bus. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-11 Thread phil
> "Exceptés riverains" (local residents (no river needed ;-) )) > I have always read that as the equivalent to the UK 'except for access'. I know the literal translation is residents, but a delivery driver or a friend visiting would be allowed to drive there

Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale

2015-05-09 Thread phil
hout trade knowledge. > In the UK , wholesalers such as Booker and Makro do not allow you through the door without documentation proving you are registered as a business. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Camps

2015-05-07 Thread phil
ed. > > Resort should probably be avoided due to totally different meanings > > between BE and AE. > > > OK Phil, I was not aware of that difference. So that leaves us wonder > what to call those UK Holiday Camps ? Leave it to the UK people I > guess. > There

Re: [Tagging] Camps

2015-05-06 Thread phil
e permanent building being the clue. > -1 > > A resort is usually a town whos primary purpose is tourism. A resort is not > operated by a single company, and access is not restricted. > Sorry, sent that before I was ready. Resort should probably be avoided due to totall

Re: [Tagging] Camps

2015-05-06 Thread phil
On Wed May 6 00:08:17 2015 GMT+0100, David Bannon wrote: > On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 09:44 +, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: > > > > It seems to me that the obvious generalisation, which would cover > > camps organised for profit and by non-profits would be > > leisure=vacation_camp. > > I don't thi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-06 Thread phil
ganisations and sites now than there used to > be, so in some cases either tag could apply equally. > +1 One of the biggest issues I see is that the mapper has to choose between tourism=caravan_site and tourism=campsite, when the vast majority of commercial sites cater for both. Phil (t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - opening hours default PH off

2015-04-30 Thread phil
would also have to define which public holidays, in the Uk Christmas Day and Easter Sunday have restrictions, other public holidays are at the businesses discretion and will vary from year to year. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] lost and found

2015-04-28 Thread phil
guess you're english ;) > There is a difference, and I am British and so is the language of OSM tagging. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] lost and found

2015-04-28 Thread phil
This type of facility is usually called 'Lost Property' or a lost property office. amenity=lost_property would work here, or lost_property=yes could be added where it is a secondary function of something else such as an information desk. Phil (trigpoint ) On Tue Apr 28 00:01:07 201

Re: [Tagging] fire extinguisher class

2015-04-23 Thread phil
That makes much more sense, and as you say, maps the physical characteristics. The letters seem like specialist knowledge that few people will be aware of. Phil (trigpoint ) On Thu Apr 23 13:11:46 2015 GMT+0100, Florian LAINEZ wrote: > Thanks for the feedback. > I am not expert at all

Re: [Tagging] fire extinguisher class

2015-04-23 Thread phil
good day > > Class A, B seems a bit confusing. I would not be able to map this without reference to the wiki. I have just checked the office extinguishers and can instantly see one powder and one foam. Neither is labelled with a letter. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___

Re: [Tagging] Highway barrier

2015-04-15 Thread phil
housands > in just the city I live in. > > But I agree that on a normal road that's kind of extreme! I agree it is extreme as it prevents emergency vehicles using the road in the opposite direction and affects wheelchairs, which are pedestrians and not normally affected by a oneway.

Re: [Tagging] Highway barrier

2015-04-15 Thread phil
On Wed Apr 15 05:32:13 2015 GMT+0100, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Dave Swarthout > wrote: > > > I don't think they are all that common Bryce but I have seen them. And > > that is a controlled situation. This is a normal street! It would be good > > to be able to alert

Re: [Tagging] Highway barrier

2015-04-14 Thread phil
affic_calming doesn't quite get it either. > > LOL > > > > These are very common in the USA on parking lots. Often the entrance road > will be shut after hours, > but the exit gate left open allowing motor vehicles to exit. "Do not back > up, severe tire damage" is

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-19 Thread phil
for camping Gas as you have used it is American, the English is petrol. However I can see nothing wrong with amenity=fuel, that is what it is in that part of the world . What turns amenity=fuel into a regular filling station is the building=roof. Phil (trigpoint) > On Thu, Mar 19, 2

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges & abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread phil
You should show them RichardF's cycle.travel site as a different way of rendering OSM, and it shows old railways. Phil (trigpoint ) On Mon Mar 9 16:18:39 2015 GMT, ael wrote: > On Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 04:14:58PM +0100, Michael Reichert wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Am 2015-

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges & abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread phil
w to render standalone/abandoned bridges. > Most are not standalone, but part of embankments/cuttings which are significant navigational features. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges & abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread phil
An example using a local uk map is http://binged.it/1x8GAHx Phil (trigpoint ) On Mon Mar 9 15:16:54 2015 GMT, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On 9 March 2015 at 15:06, ael wrote: > > I have just been asked to give a talk about OSM to a local group > > including Councillors who are imp

Re: [Tagging] custom road ref shields

2014-12-03 Thread Phil! Gold
* Richard Welty [2014-11-27 11:09 -0500]: > actually, specifying the shield with a URL for an svg file was an older > approach. And, I should note, one that I consciously did not use. I believe it was Richard Weait who pointed out that grabbing an arbitrary image, chosen by someone else, off of

Re: [Tagging] custom road ref shields

2014-12-03 Thread Phil! Gold
* johnw [2014-11-28 13:11 +0900]: > > On Nov 28, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > > the basic scheme doesn't require anything new or unusual in > > route relation tagging, just care and consistency. > > I look forward to seeing his RFC page then ^_^ Well, the point is that you can rende

Re: [Tagging] governmental / public_administrative landuse are not commercial

2014-11-07 Thread phil
my mind. +1 I totally agree Colin, it would be equally ridiculous to tag schools or parks as civic. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.23.0

2014-10-30 Thread phil
If staff are available 24/7 I would call that a hotel. Phil (trigpoint ) On Thu Oct 30 2014 13:24:02 GMT+ (GMT), Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2014-10-29 21:56 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dguest_house as currently > >

Re: [Tagging] what does maxheight=none mean?

2014-10-27 Thread phil
over the height are prohibited. Height is given in metric and imperial in most cases, although imperial only signs do exist. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-23 Thread phil
to? Would add it to dive shops, tourist accommodation which caters for divers may too. Phil(trigpoint ) > > > recompression_chamber=yes/no > > To indicate if there is a recompression chamber on-site. > > nothing like hyperbaric chamber mapping on OSM yet? > > Ri

Re: [Tagging] man_made=bridge

2014-10-13 Thread phil
I like this proposal too, would it be possible to extend it to tunnels or would that require a similar proposal? Phil (trigpoint ) On Mon Oct 13 2014 11:12:00 GMT+0100 (BST), Lukas Sommer wrote: > I like this proposal. > > I would add the requirement that the highways/railways/path

Re: [Tagging] New key proposal - paved=yes/no

2014-09-22 Thread phil
Toll? I assume that means the same in US English as in UK English? You really have to pay to use cycleways? How is the toll collected and enforced? Phil (trigpoint ) On Sun Sep 21 2014 23:36:04 GMT+0100 (BST), Paul Johnson wrote: > Along with this, I really hope renderers start comput

Re: [Tagging] University accommodation (was Re: Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory)

2014-09-22 Thread phil
Dormitories are rooms with multiple beds, usually bunk beds and associated with youth hostels, certainly not suitable for student accommodation where there is typically one student in a room, maybe two but they are certainly not dormitories. Phil (trigpoint ) On Sat Sep 20 2014 23:12:24 GMT

Re: [Tagging] University accommodation (was Re: Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory)

2014-09-20 Thread phil
Dormitories are rooms with multiple beds, usually bunk beds and associated with youth hostels, certainly not suitable for student accommodation where there is typically one student in a room, maybe two but they are certainly not dormitories. Phil (trigpoint ) On Sat Sep 20 2014 23:12:24 GMT

Re: [Tagging] University accommodation (was Re: Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory)

2014-09-20 Thread phil
Students accommodation is neither tourism or guesthouse, I would have gone for hall_of_residence. Phil (trigpoint ) On Sat Sep 20 2014 14:46:17 GMT+0100 (BST), sabas88 wrote: > On 19 Sep 2014 16:54, "Tobias Knerr" wrote: > > > > On 19.09.2014 14:22 Dan S wr

Re: [Tagging] interpolated housenumbers on single objects

2014-08-20 Thread phil
st right so I don't > lose too much numbers. > Then when the photos are on Mapillary, anyone can map the address numbers > in them (and shops and everything else). > Three more cameras and then you have an openstreetview. Cool. Phil (trigpoint ) > Janko > > > 2014

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - nudism

2014-08-19 Thread phil
The usual english term applied to beaches is 'clothing optional'. Phil (trigpoint) On Tue Aug 19 2014 11:54:21 GMT+0100 (BST), Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > Am 19.08.2014 09:37, schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: > > > >> > >> Is it reasonable to define

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - nudism

2014-08-18 Thread phil
Naturism is the preferred term for nudism, as naturist is the preferred term for a nudist. Nudust/nudism are not normally used terms for clubs or beaches. The proposal should be changed to Naturism. Phil (trigpoint ) On Tue Aug 19 2014 00:18:04 GMT+0100 (BST), John Packer wrote: > He

Re: [Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key

2014-08-18 Thread phil
cuisine = crisps in a pub :) The nearest in English for gelateria is ice cream parlour. Phil (trigpoint ) On Mon Aug 18 2014 14:00:07 GMT+0100 (BST), Simone Saviolo wrote: > 2014-08-18 13:41 GMT+02:00 John Packer : > > > I'm not sure what is a gelateria. > > Couldn'

Re: [Tagging] Vending: Cards for Prepaid mobile phone

2014-06-28 Thread phil
electricity. Mobile phone topups can often be bought from ATMs too. Not 100% sure, but I may have already tagged this. I would propose that we use the following tags on shops/filling stations /ATMs and other places I haven't thought of. topup =mobile_phone tooup=gas topup=electric

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-17 Thread Phil! Gold
* Martin Koppenhoefer [2014-06-17 16:43 +0200]: > you can find big roundabouts with traffic lights in most of the big > European cities, another reason (besides the controlling the motorized > traffic) is to let pedestrians (and sometimes cyclists) cross. I know of a traffic circle (here: http://

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of topographic areas with a name

2013-08-13 Thread Phil! Gold
* Friedrich Volkmann [2013-08-09 07:28 +0200]: > I also dislike the suggested special member roles: The positioning > of the label depends on the font size, the free space, the map > section and zoom level etc. and should therefore be determined by > the renderer. I tend to think of label nodes a

Re: [Tagging] railway=abandoned + highway=cycleway (was: [OSM-talk-be] Abandoned Railways / cycleways)

2013-04-19 Thread Phil! Gold
* Steve Bennett [2013-04-20 00:25 +1000]: > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:19 AM, Phil! Gold wrote: > > a) If the trail meanders a little from side to side (where the old > > railway would have just gone straight), I match the way to the trail > > and trust that the se

Re: [Tagging] railway=abandoned + highway=cycleway

2013-04-18 Thread Phil! Gold
* Mike N [2013-04-18 12:56 -0400]: > However I have learned that the abandoned rail lines should not be > removed - they magically regrow, so I allow them to remain as they go > through hillsides which have long been bulldozed down and through blocks > of buildings which have long since replaced t

Re: [Tagging] railway=abandoned + highway=cycleway (was: [OSM-talk-be] Abandoned Railways / cycleways)

2013-04-18 Thread Phil! Gold
* Steve Bennett [2013-04-19 01:22 +1000]: > 1) A single way: "railway=abandoned | highway=cycleway | name=Blah Rail > Trail | surface=unpaved" (usually with a cycle route relation as well) This is basically how I tag them, with the following additions: a) If the trail meanders a little from sid

Re: [Tagging] Power proposals

2013-03-14 Thread Phil! Gold
* François Lacombe [2013-03-14 18:52 +0100]: > Foremost, areas must reflect land occupation. If 2 different operators' > plants are contiguous in reality then areas must be contiguous too. > > Do you have any example which can illustrate such situation in the wiki? I know of a couple. In Maryl

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-28 Thread Phil! Gold
* Svavar Kjarrval [2012-11-25 00:08 +]: > The RFC process has started for my proposal to tag the age groups > schools offer education for. More information is on the wiki page. > > The proposal is at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/age_group . I happen to think the ex

Re: [Tagging] Tag ref on motorway_link

2012-10-30 Thread Phil! Gold
in the tagging of signed and unsigned reference numbers. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. :-)

Re: [Tagging] name of river/admin area

2012-09-04 Thread Phil! Gold
* David ``Smith'' [2012-09-03 18:51 -0400]: > In my part of the US, nearly every river is of the form "the X River" and I > would expect to see it that way on maps, leaving out the "the" which is > used in forming sentences but not generally considered part of the name. > In Michigan there's the R

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Rails with trails

2012-07-03 Thread Phil! Gold
* SomeoneElse [2012-07-03 13:37 +0100]: > Phil! Gold wrote: > >As I understand it, NE2 was looking for a tagging scheme that > >would allow for searches to find trails on a railway grade. > > That might not have the desired effect in all cases: > http://www.openstreetma

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Rails with trails

2012-07-03 Thread Phil! Gold
* Steve Bennett [2012-07-03 17:22 +1000]: > For the original question of how to tag a "rail with trail" (I've also > heard the term "railside trail"), is it not sufficient to simply map > the two ways separately? Example here: > http://osm.org/go/uG4lkKxG?layers=C As I understand it, NE2 was look

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Rails with trails

2012-06-28 Thread Phil! Gold
* Nathan Edgars II [2012-06-27 12:59 -0400]: > But another popular kind of rail trail, a "rail with trail", cannot > be found in this manner. [snip] > Does anyone have any ideas for tagging? The simplest would be > something like rail_with_trail=yes or maybe railway=adjacent. Either of those woul

Re: [Tagging] Turning circle with island or turning loop (was Re: (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Phil! Gold
ll take; I had to move from small, fast disks to larger, slower ones so I'm attempting a full-planet import rather than the US extract I'd been using, which means I have no idea how long it'll take). -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A

Re: [Tagging] Turning circle with island or turning loop (was Re: (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-15 Thread Phil! Gold
think it would be too hard to add a rendering for highway=turning_loop, so if it gets general approval and no one else beats me to it, I'll try to put together a patch against the main rendering for it. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 pr

Re: [Tagging] OSMI layers in JOSM

2012-04-29 Thread Phil! Gold
EST (which I can turn into tiles with tilestache), I've been transitioning more to using tiled backgrounds, which do change resolutions automatically (though there are still glitches there). -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200

Re: [Tagging] sidewalks and tagging for the renderer

2012-04-12 Thread phil
That was my point, any footpath or cycleway following a motorway should be treated as a separate way. After more careful thought, the only UK instance of a path following a motorway, that I am aware of, is the old Severn bridge, and they are on different decks. Phil On 12/04/2012 14:11

Re: [Tagging] Extension of the "payment:*" keys

2012-04-11 Thread phil
to walk in to several resturants and walk out again, until I find one that will take it. Phil On 11/04/2012 13:35 p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: Debit cards are accepted in most shops, but not usually accepted in pubs. The point I was making is that Aldi and Lidl accept debit cards but not credit

Re: [Tagging] Extension of the "payment:*" keys

2012-04-11 Thread phil
Debit cards are accepted in most shops, but not usually accepted in pubs. The point I was making is that Aldi and Lidl accept debit cards but not credit cards. Phil On 11/04/2012 13:10 Simone Saviolo wrote: 2012/4/11 : > You also need: > > payment:debit_cards for shops such as aldi

Re: [Tagging] Extension of the "payment:*" keys

2012-04-11 Thread phil
You also need: payment:debit_cards for shops such as aldi and lidl. Phil On 11/04/2012 11:09 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 10. April 2012 20:55 schrieb John Sturdy : > (1) a "payment:cards" key, intended specifically for use with the > value "no", to indicate th

Re: [Tagging] sidewalks and tagging for the renderer

2012-04-11 Thread phil
I am wondering what happens where there are no crossings, or outside of built up areas where there are no sidewalks. Phil On 11/04/2012 11:32 John Sturdy wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am 10. April 2012 22:01 schrieb Komяpa : >> It's po

Re: [Tagging] Route Relations and Special (Bannered) Routes

2012-03-14 Thread Phil! Gold
ter contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- Frederick! He's eating a screw! -- "Eat-Man '98" --- --

Re: [Tagging] Route Relations and Special (Bannered) Routes

2012-03-13 Thread Phil! Gold
ill work in a reasonable way. I'd hoped to have feedback from several people, but since you're the only person who's responded so far, you get all the questions. :| -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B

[Tagging] Route Relations and Special (Bannered) Routes

2012-03-11 Thread Phil! Gold
Bannered_routes_of_U.S._Route_1#Alternate_routes -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- Wow, I'm being shot at from both sides.

Re: [Tagging] Voting for Relation type=waterway

2012-02-21 Thread Phil! Gold
w.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.6956&lon=-78.7731&zoom=14&layers=M -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- NO COMPILER DETECTED ERRORS.

Re: [Tagging] landuse=residential and named residential areas which belong together (neighbourhoods/subdivisions?)

2011-08-31 Thread Phil! Gold
uter contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- ⊦:.α,β∈1.⊃:α∩β=Λ.≡.α∪β∈2 -- Theorem 54.43 from _Principia Mathematica_,

[Tagging] Use of place=suburb (was Re: RFC: place=neighbourhood)

2011-08-31 Thread Phil! Gold
suburb could comprise more than one neighborhood.) -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- eat Depends: cook | eat-out. But eat-out is non-free so that's out.

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Phil! Gold
, named residential areas plus a couple recreation areas and a retail area.) -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- I object to doing things that computers can do.

Re: [Tagging] Tags for neighborhoods / subdivisions

2011-05-13 Thread Phil! Gold
, if a neighborhood spanned more than one containing place. I do think that this sort of thing should only be used if spatial relationships don't work: i.e. one or both related entities are nodes. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sidewalks as separate ways

2011-04-03 Thread Phil! Gold
ld reasonably be assumed to be equivalent to "no associated street" but, like oneway=no, it doesn't hurt to have an explicit value for that case. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Sidewalk

2011-03-21 Thread Phil! Gold
oach that covers a great number of common cases is worth using. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- No cow's like a horse and no horse like a cow.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-19 Thread Phil! Gold
ng whether a highway is primary, secondary, tertiary, etc. in most places outside the UK), but the first axis should be relatively objective and the second axis shouldn't be a problem for people living in the region to decide on. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.

Re: [Tagging] Paper streets?

2010-10-22 Thread Phil! Gold
ighway=proposed, I don't think that's a problem, since they're much less likely to be taken as actual, usable roads. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- I think

[Tagging] How can the US get its stuff together? (was Re: Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap)

2010-10-16 Thread Phil! Gold
nstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-October/004361.html -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peep

Re: [Tagging] Layer=* tags disappearing

2010-10-12 Thread Phil! Gold
that any number of (integer-based) levels would be rendered correctly. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- I do not like broccoli, and I haven't liked it since I was a little kid

[Tagging] Advice on names for disused/abandoned railways?

2010-09-01 Thread Phil! Gold
sion of what was at the time the Western Maryland Railway." Suggestions welcome. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- ATTENTION: Despite Any Other Listing of Product Conten

Re: [Tagging] Relation for saying "x is attached to y"?

2010-08-30 Thread Phil! Gold
wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Multiple_Tracks -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- Education is a better safeguard of liberty t

[Tagging] Is power=generator like landuse=* or building=yes?

2010-07-01 Thread Phil! Gold
the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- 1.79 x 10^12 furlongs per fortnight -- it's not just a good idea, it's the law! --- -- ___ Tagging mailing li

Re: [Tagging] Parking for businesses..

2010-05-19 Thread Phil! Gold
icly owned? (i.e. a strict reading of "right of access" rather than "you're allowed to be here if...") -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2

Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread Phil! Gold
t there aren't any big structures for babies. > > Perhaps adding a baby=exclusive? Could that be unified with other access designations? 'baby=designated' or 'baby=official'? -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 prin

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-14 Thread Phil! Gold
se they're so small, they take a lot of time to make. There are examples in the residential areas just east of the shopping center I linked above. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026

Re: [Tagging] Fast food vs. restaurant vs. cafe

2010-05-04 Thread Phil! Gold
ourses. Tips are not expected. With those criteria, what distinguishes fast_food from cafe? -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- /* (I do not und