Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-25 Thread John Willis
On May 25, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Am 24.05.2015 um 14:36 schrieb John Willis jo...@mac.com: I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. I thought it was a word for a single waterfall as well... The water

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-25 Thread Richard
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 11:53:48PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 24.05.2015 um 14:36 schrieb John Willis jo...@mac.com: I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. I thought it was a word for a single waterfall as well... in some languages a

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 25.05.2015 um 13:37 schrieb Richard ricoz@gmail.com: in some languages a cascade is any series of things, be it electronic switches in circuits or waterfalls - even in English as I have just noticed from reading wiktionary: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cascade So cascade

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-25 Thread Richard
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 01:46:18PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: So cascade would be a true weasel tag. yes, it is typical for words to have different meanings in different contexts, but water=cascade will be much less a weasel than the word cascade alone still enough of a weasel

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-05-25 17:11 GMT+02:00 Richard ricoz@gmail.com: [water=cascade] still weasel enough. Could be a single waterfall, a series of them or this: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldau-Kaskade fountain_type=cascade should make the object clear if you'd want to be more specific:

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-24 Thread John Willis
I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. Wether that is natural or artificial, I'm not sure there's a distinction. http://www.tripadvisor.com/MobileViewPhoto-g298182-d1311890-i131738347-Ryuzu_Waterfall-Nikko_Tochigi_Prefecture_Kanto.html I've visited a lot of

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 24.05.2015 um 14:36 schrieb John Willis jo...@mac.com: I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. I thought it was a word for a single waterfall as well... Also - saying a waterfall is a reflecting pool is very disingenuous - it's not that it

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-24 Thread pmailkeey .
On 24 May 2015 at 22:53, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Am 24.05.2015 um 14:36 schrieb John Willis jo...@mac.com: I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. I thought it was a word for a single waterfall as well... Only where the

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-23 Thread Richard Z.
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 03:54:57PM +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 22 May 2015 at 15:29, Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com wrote: I am uncomfortable with cascade - in several languages it means waterfall so there is considerable potential for confusion. I agree. A cascade is a

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-23 Thread pmailkeey .
On 23 May 2015 at 11:09, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 03:54:57PM +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 22 May 2015 at 15:29, Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com wrote: I am uncomfortable with cascade - in several languages it means waterfall so there is

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 22.05.2015 um 12:28 schrieb Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: Cascades, by their very nature, are not suitable for reflecting as the water is agitated. maybe this is a language issue, I would have thought they would reflect anyway but you wouldn't see a clear picture (I agree

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 May 2015 at 12:25, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: 'Pond' seems to fit the bill: No, it does not. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 May 2015 at 16:40, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: Wiki suggests natural=water + water=reflecting_pool: Cascades, by their very nature, are not suitable for reflecting as the water is agitated. There may also be no horizontal surface to speak of. Maybe water=cascade could be the

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 May 2015 at 12:03, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: what are the other examples? We cannot propose tags if you don't say what you want to tag ;-) man-made, ornamental water features, which are not fountains These might be cascades, rills, reflecting-pools, rain-chains,

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 22.05.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: These might be cascades, rills, reflecting-pools, rain-chains, moats, etc. We might, for example, have: natural=water water=cascde etc. - but not: water=fountain as we already have

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Richard Z.
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 09:26:34AM -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote: The water feature we are talking about here is an artificial waterfall, usually pump-driven. in that case it might be better to either use normal waterfall tagging node with waterway=waterfall+ way waterway=weir, possibly

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 May 2015 at 15:29, Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com wrote: I am uncomfortable with cascade - in several languages it means waterfall so there is considerable potential for confusion. I agree. A cascade is a waterfall in American English. How, then would you describe:

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 May 2015 at 15:54, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: How, then would you describe: Or these: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Site_of_Priory_Mill_-_geograph.org.uk_-_288573.jpg

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
The water feature we are talking about here is an artificial waterfall, usually pump-driven. On May 22, 2015 9:19:44 AM Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:00:30PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 22.05.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Andy Mabbett

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Dave Swarthout
I am uncomfortable with cascade - in several languages it means waterfall so there is considerable potential for confusion. I agree. A cascade is a waterfall in American English. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:00:30PM +0200,

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Richard Z.
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:00:30PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 22.05.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: These might be cascades, rills, reflecting-pools, rain-chains, moats, etc. We might, for example, have: natural=water

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Dave Swarthout
How about fountain_cascade or waterfall_artificial? It's a tricky proposition. On Friday, May 22, 2015, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 22 May 2015 at 15:54, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk javascript:; wrote: How, then would you describe: Or these:

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
A lot of those end up as natural=water. I suppose man_made=yes could be added. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
How should we tag man=made, ornamental water features, which are not fountains? For example, a cascade? The wiki pages at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Water http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfountain are of little help in this regard. -- Andy Mabbett

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-05-15 8:48 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: How should we tag man=made, ornamental water features, which are not fountains? For example, a cascade? fountains also require a natural=water for the effective water areas. See here:

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-15 Thread pmailkeey .
'Pond' seems to fit the bill: OED: A small body of still water of artificial formation, made either by excavating a hollow in the ground or by embanking and damming up a watercourse in a natural hollow. On 15 May 2015 at 12:13, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/05/2015 4:55 PM, Bryce

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-15 Thread Warin
On 15/05/2015 4:55 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: A lot of those end up as natural=water. I suppose man_made=yes could be added. The 'Pool of Reflection' Sydney is simply tagged natural=water name=Pool of Reflection Way: 182625202 That is an ornamental memorial pool. Flat. I've added a just

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-15 Thread Janko Mihelić
pet, 15. svi 2015. 13:15 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com je napisao: On 15/05/2015 4:55 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: A lot of those end up as natural=water. I suppose man_made=yes could be added. The 'Pool of Reflection' Sydney is simply tagged natural=water name=Pool of Reflection Way: 182625202