[Tagging] Native English speakers: locker or lockbox?

2014-06-24 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, over a year ago I was indoor-mapping the central train station of Heilbronn, Germany and looked for a tag to tag a locker/lockbox like this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schlie%C3%9Ff%C3%A4cher_-_Bahnhof_Neumarkt_Oberpfalz.jpg After reading a discussion at talk-de from October 2010

Re: [Tagging] Native English speakers: locker or lockbox?

2014-06-24 Thread Michael Reichert
be in British English, shouldn't they?) On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Michael Reichert naka...@gmx.net wrote: At the moment Constantin Müller (aka ubahnverleih) and I think about a consistent tagging of this amenities. At the moment there are 9 objects tagged amenity=lockbox and 30 objects

Re: [Tagging] highway=speed_camera equivalent for non-speed enforcement types

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Ronnie, On 22. Juli 2014 07:35:07 MESZ, Ronnie Soak chaoschaos0...@googlemail.com wrote: I've mapped some traffic light enforcement cameras lately and stumbled across the somehow missfitting tag highway=speed_camera. It was obvioisly invented for cameras enforcing only speed limits.

Re: [Tagging] Dispute with user over changing wiki page

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi PeeWee32, Am 2014-11-08 um 16:47 schrieb Pee Wee: We are writing to you for advice on what steps we should or could take next. The situation is best summarized as: 1. A user is attempting to change, without consensus, the meaning of a tag that was accepted through a proposal process.

Re: [Tagging] Dispute with user over changing wiki page

2014-11-11 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Pee Wee, Am 2014-11-11 um 19:20 schrieb Pee Wee: Thanks Micheal I thought I just wait some days for other to reply but unfortunately no more then yours. The question we still have is : What can we do? I suppose the DWG will only block when harm is done to the OSM database and not on

Re: [Tagging] Dispute with user over changing wiki page

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Martin, Am 2014-11-13 um 17:56 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: I'd kindly ask you to not point to actual or presumed real life identities of OSM contributors and to not disclose their (presumed/actual) place of residence on public lists, unless they are publicly known or the mapper has

Re: [Tagging] Adding values to usage=* key for power transmission

2014-12-03 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2014-11-23 um 23:09 schrieb François Lacombe: As suggested on Talk page of Power transmission refinement proposal, power lines and cable should be described with a key giving their usage in the network.

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

2015-01-22 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 22. Januar 2015 11:45:47 MEZ, schrieb althio althio althio.fo...@gmail.com: Please vote here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relation:associatedStreet Is this a formal voting? It is not as formal as a proposal voting. I would like to know how the community (those who

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-07 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Luca, Am 2015-02-06 um 17:29 schrieb Luca Sigfrido Percich: first time I write to the list (after lurking for a while), so I introduce myself. I am from Milano - Italy, I work for the municipality's agency for environment and mobility, and we'we been working for the last months to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Traffic Signals)

2015-01-18 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2015-01-18 um 19:02 schrieb fly: Additional to below I want to mention that on a micromapping style a traffic_signal is placed one the pedistrian crossing or the stop_line. I even came across ones one the stop_line and an addition highway=crossing on the pedestrian crossing. I am

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Bryce, Am 2015-03-21 um 01:54 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: Any objection to moving: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking because it is heavily used and obviously well established. I agree. Because it is used on 47541 objects at OSM all over the world, it's best to move

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2015-03-21 um 02:29 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: Additions to that page, I'd think, should be proposed separately. - The utility undergrounding RFC proposes tagging for a similar regional default value. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Quickly_Marking_Utility_Wires

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi ael, Am 2015-03-09 um 15:22 schrieb ael: I have resorted to changing railway=abandoned to railway=disused on several occasions just to get mapnik and friends to render bridges. Bridges over roads and rivers are major features of relevance to tall vehicles and boats, so really should show

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2015-03-09 um 16:06 schrieb ael: Well, I have only changed the tag on the bridges themselves, and only on ways for which I did the original (and usually any subsequent) survey and edits. So I am not corrupting other people's data. Wrong! You have corrupted data because you have changed

Re: [Tagging] RFC - obligatory usage - bicycle=obligatory

2015-03-28 Thread Michael Reichert
Am 2015-03-28 um 00:54 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: Adding new value to a bicycle tag is a terrible idea. There is a widespread support for bicycle=designated and retagging cycleways to bicycle=obligatory would result in a breaking data. Note also existence of bicycle=use_sidepath that is

[Tagging] Wiki: Key:level: proposed rewrite

2015-05-25 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2015-05-25 um 01:41 schrieb pmailkeey .: Any objection if I 'rewrite http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:level ? It seems to have been written with the misconception that floor names are numbers when they're not. A rewrite: - Won't affect existing names that appear as

Re: [Tagging] *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-02 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Richard, Am 2015-08-02 um 23:25 schrieb Richard: Rationale: The current definition (minor pathways which are used mainly or exclusively by pedestrians) is not specific in providing definite distinctive features between footway and path. The consequences are misconceptions and globally

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-04 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Richard, Am 2015-08-04 um 16:59 schrieb Richard: On Sun, Aug 02, 2015 at 11:43:21PM +0200, Michael Reichert wrote: I fully oppose highway=footpath. This is not backward-compatible and will therefore break almost all applications which use OSM data. It conflicts with existing, heavily used

Re: [Tagging] More human readable values for traffic signs

2015-10-27 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Mateusz, Am Mon, 26 Oct 2015 08:58:08 +0100 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: > I recently started tagging traffic signs and I am surprised by wide > usage country-specific traffic sign codes. > > I think that at least common signs may be tagged by human-readable > values. Some (see >

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in favor of relations

2015-11-07 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2015-11-06 um 11:24 schrieb Paul Johnson: > […] > *The fix: * I propose a goal of December 31, 2016 to eliminate ref=* as a > method to describe an overlying route; this should be more than ample time > for existing data consumers to catch up on doing a move and ensure data > consistency

Re: [Tagging] Unmarked opening hours

2015-10-11 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Michał, Am 2015-10-10 um 21:28 schrieb Michał Brzozowski: > In the course of surveys, I fill in opening_hours of shops and other > venues. Sometimes though, they are not marked outside. Therefore, when > looking at a feature that lacks opening_hours other mappers and I > can't tell the reason.

Re: [Tagging] Rail maxspeed conversions

2015-09-05 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Dave, Am 2015-09-05 um 11:21 schrieb Dave F.: > Update: The user has informed me there was a discussion & the outcome > was to convert all to kph. Does anyone have a link to it? Converting UK railway maxspeeds to kph is just mapping for the renderer. OpenRailwayMap does not support mph speeds

Re: [Tagging] Rail maxspeed conversions

2015-09-05 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Dave, Am 2015-09-05 um 12:58 schrieb Dave F.: > Do you know where the UK maxspeed figures would have originally come > from? I assume it's some form of open source database rather than > someone foolishly walking the tracks. There are multiple ways to get railway maxspeed data (1) data with

Re: [Tagging] Road Running Railways

2015-11-26 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Dominic, Am 26. November 2015 13:49:33 MEZ, schrieb Dominic Coletti : > I have noticed that there is no set tag for rails that are embedded > within > the road. One strategy I have had is to tag the road as highway=* and > add > another line with railway=rail. I

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-18 Thread Michael Reichert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Am 18.03.2016 um 18:38 schrieb Daniel Koć: > and it would be good to have universal scheme instead of > railway:station_category=* or flights_range=*. Looks like it is > being already used and quite popular: You know that you usually have

Re: [Tagging] importance=* tag (for transportation etc)

2016-03-18 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi John, Am 18.03.2016 um 22:36 schrieb John Willis: > I was told point-blank by the head of OSM-carto on github That (as I remember > it) > > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/323 > > A) "importance" is unverifiable, so it is useless for OSM. > > Gravitystorm: >

Re: [Tagging] Subject: Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=social_path

2016-03-26 Thread Michael Reichert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Alan, Am 25.03.2016 um 23:54 schrieb Alan McConchie: > I’d like to solicit comments on the following proposal, to create a > new tag called "highway=social_path" > > Wiki page is here: >

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

2016-03-07 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 07.03.2016 um 08:56 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > It is possible that some supermarkets would make their list of products > available electronically and thus provide an incentive for a clever > hacker to simply convert that to OSM. Once we say we accept a list of > products for a supermarket,

Re: [Tagging] Does disused:railway=* require railway=disused?

2016-07-28 Thread Michael Reichert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Am 28.07.2016 um 09:31 schrieb Warin: > My understanding is; > > The primary tag is railway=disused. > > Then you have a 'sub tag' to describe what is disused .. a railway > station, light rail line etc. railway=disused is a very old and

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-07 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 07.07.2016 um 08:19 schrieb Colin Smale: > You could use "long_name" to provide a version of the name which > includes the discriminators In Germany there are ref_name=* and uic_name=* in use. (We have the same problem) Best regards Michael -- Per E-Mail kommuniziere ich bevorzugt

Re: [Tagging] steps parallel to escalator

2016-07-01 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Bjoern, Am 01.07.2016 um 19:30 schrieb Bjoern Hassler: > A few questions about steps/escalators: > > (1) Should an escalator always have "highway=steps"? I.e. > highway=steps > conveying=yes > (see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:conveying ). Yes. An escalator can be used as a steps

Re: [Tagging] Tagging speed camera *zones*

2017-01-17 Thread Michael Reichert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Rory, Am 2017-01-17 um 13:39 schrieb Rory McCann: > On 16/01/17 17:56, Michael Reichert wrote: >> Are there signs along the road which inform the car drivers that >> there might be a mobile speed camer

Re: [Tagging] Tagging speed camera *zones*

2017-01-16 Thread Michael Reichert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Rory, Am 2017-01-16 um 17:24 schrieb Rory McCann: > In Ireland, there are several roads which could have a mobile > speed camera van. We have some open data from the government of > these roads, and we'd like to map them in OSM. Ideally satnav

Re: [Tagging] Railway=station + area=yes questions:

2016-10-05 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Martin, Am 2016-10-05 um 10:13 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > 2016-10-04 21:36 GMT+02:00 Michael Reichert <naka...@gmx.net>: >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Station-asymmetric.svg >> >> (1) A passenger might define the station as the area around th

Re: [Tagging] Railway=station + area=yes questions:

2016-10-04 Thread Michael Reichert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Am 2016-10-04 um 11:50 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > 2016-10-04 0:19 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > >> There is a nice diagram of how to map a simple station >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dstation#A_S >>

Re: [Tagging] Railway=station + area=yes questions:

2016-10-04 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2016-10-04 um 11:37 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > 2016-10-03 21:54 GMT+02:00 Alexander Matheisen > : > >> The main problem I see for mapping stations as areas is the lack >> of defined boundaries. Compared to other types of POIs, the >> definition of a "station

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Through service

2016-09-17 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Michael, Am 2016-09-14 um 05:10 schrieb Michael Tsang: > RFC: Through service > > This proposes a kind of relation to associate different public transport > services to become a through service, i.e. the vehicles run through the > services sequentially, allowing passengers staying on board.

Re: [Tagging] Roads with no speed limits

2016-08-28 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Hans, Am 28.08.2016 um 21:35 schrieb Hans De Kryger: > Here in Phoenix Arizona more than half the freeway off ramps have no listed > speed limit. Does (maxspeed=none) work? I've worked hard here in the valley > adding speed limits and when you look at the ito map it looks like no one > added

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of Country Names

2016-10-25 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Warin, Am 25.10.2016 um 23:32 schrieb Warin: > ? You are not proposing removing all the English names from the data base?! No, he doesn't. He just proposes to remove the English name from the name=* tag in countries where English is neither an official language nor a common (but

Re: [Tagging] railway=rail vs. railway=subway

2016-11-22 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, railway=* should depend on the infrastructure only. The services which use the track, don't matter. Am 22.11.2016 um 15:41 schrieb Michael Tsang: > On Tuesday 22 November 2016 11:28:00 jc86035 wrote: >> Should a commuter rail system with rapid transit frequency but main >> line-standard

Re: [Tagging] railway=rail vs. railway=subway

2016-11-24 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Bill, Am 23.11.2016 um 05:12 schrieb Bill Ricker: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Michael Tsang wrote: >>> Oh really. Boston MBTA green line is a subway line that extends onto >>> surface streets. Not full rail gauge iirc (though other lines are) and >>> neither surface

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-16 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2017-03-16 um 05:13 schrieb Tod Fitch: > The “direction” tag [1] has different uses that seem disjoint to me. > To specify the orientation (compass point or degrees from north) of an object > (adit or cave entrance, etc.). > To specify direction (clockwise/counterclockwise) around a

Re: [Tagging] simple 3D buildings, proposed redefinition of building:levels and building:min_level for building:part

2017-03-09 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Martin, Am 09.03.2017 um 19:39 schrieb Tobias Knerr: > Your proposed change would, therefore, make data mapped using these keys > mostly useless due to the unresolvable ambiguity. In my opinion, that > kind of cost is not worth it. I oppose the proposed change for exactly the same reasons.

Re: [Tagging] Discouraging frequency=* on power lines and cables

2017-03-09 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi David, Am 09.03.2017 um 06:35 schrieb David Marchal: >> Le 8 mars 2017 à 23:04, Michael Reichert <naka...@gmx.net> a écrit : >> >> Please keep OSM simple. I don't want to add a power route relation on >> every tiny minor distribution line/cable (230 V). >>

Re: [Tagging] Invalid voting of proposed feature motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-03-04 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2017-03-04 um 15:02 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > mapping this kind of information (e.g. michelin star restaurants ) in a > structured and systematic way is likely forbidden because it means recreating > a (probably) proprietary db IMHO this is the only way who the friendliness of a

Re: [Tagging] Discouraging frequency=* on power lines and cables

2017-03-08 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi François, Am 2017-03-08 um 15:18 schrieb François Lacombe: > frequency=* tag aims to qualify active elements on telecom or power > networks (among others, see wiki > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:frequency) > > I see it as an optional property of power lines or cables. >

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-06 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Martin and others, Am 2017-03-06 um 17:37 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > yes, that wording is unfortunate, because in most/many OSM mailing lists > messages never get approved. I am myself admin of a very small regional ML > and from time to time there are periods where a lot of spam arrives,

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi David, Am 05.03.2017 um 23:46 schrieb David Bannon: > Maybe its time someone put a note on the proposal page saying that the > author is posting to the list but does not appear to be receiving > messages from it ? > > In case its a language issue, could that message be in German and > English

[Tagging] Invalid voting of proposed feature motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-03-02 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, I have been informed by another mapper who uses XING (the German LikedIn) that there is a new tag motorcycle_friendly=yes. [1] Its wiki page says that the key has been proposed and accepted. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motorcycle_friendly The proposal page can be found here:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - 2nd RFC - Improve Toilet Tagging

2017-04-14 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Micah, Am 2017-04-14 um 18:49 schrieb Micah Cochran: > I've rewrote the proposal for improving toilet tagging. This is a second > request for comments. > > Now this proposal tags for occupancy (single or multi), gender/group > designation > of toilets that are within a place (where tagged

Re: [Tagging] highspeed=yes

2017-07-11 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Martin, Am 11.07.2017 um 01:27 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: >> On 10. Jul 2017, at 23:42, Michael Reichert <naka...@gmx.net> wrote: >> >> The main question is: >> Shold the whole line (the definition of "line" is a different discussion >> wo

[Tagging] highspeed=yes

2017-07-10 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, I have a small dispute with user flierfy about the usage of highspeed=yes and would like to ask for your opinions. [1] I think that highspeed=yes should only be use that tracks whose speed limit is above a certain minimum speed (On The Ground Rule). The speed might vary between countries.

Re: [Tagging] highspeed=yes

2017-07-14 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, sorry for the late response on the mailing list, I accidentially send the email only to Richard. Am 11.07.2017 um 10:49 schrieb Richard: > without a proper definition there is no way to resolve your dispute > and the tag is unverifyable and of limitted use as is. There are two open

Re: [Tagging] rail routes and stations (rail question 1)

2017-05-12 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2017-05-12 um 08:07 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > this was closed as duplicate, so they are aware there is an issue. > In the discussion the only argument (by Nakaner, a rail enthusiast) > is that there are 3 different legally relevant areas for train > stations in Germany, so the German

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-12 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Bjoern, Am 2017-05-10 um 18:59 schrieb Bjoern Hassler: > In an osm:relation:route > (type=route, > route=train/...), you have both platforms and stop positions. How is a > particular platform associated with a stop that serves it? > > E.g.

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-12 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Bjoern, Am 2017-05-11 um 11:17 schrieb Bjoern Hassler: > in the case of 4a/4b etc I would put in different stop points. If 4a always > serves one route, then 4a would be added to the route relation. Maybe if 4a > / 5a / 6a can all serve the same route, then I don't know what the solution >

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-12 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Bjoern, Am 2017-05-11 um 12:08 schrieb Bjoern Hassler: > Basically, I'm trying to understand > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Members. There's the > concept of station vs. stop_position, in case there are many stop_positions > in a station / stop_area. Sorry for London

Re: [Tagging] rail routes and stations (rail question 1)

2017-05-19 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Martin, Am 2017-05-12 um 12:46 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > btw: the current railway=station tag definition doesn't say anything how to > differentiate between freight stations and passenger stations and possibly > combinations of both. > > Which tags are used? As a railway mapper, I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Erkin, Am 17.09.2017 um 07:54 schrieb Erkin Alp Güney: > Two RFCs by me are ready. One of them are education reform(actually > delayed a bit). This brings education key instead of amenity=school. > Full proposal at >

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2017-09-19 um 09:32 schrieb Topographe Fou: > From my understanding it would open even more the door to advertising and I > don't see any added value from a map point of view (no usefull data for the > user). > > Moreover, in your exemple, I don't see the point to repeat on all

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-04 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Yves, Am 04.10.2017 um 17:44 schrieb Yves: > Whatever this tag is good or bad, it's not a good idea to delete the page > from the wiki. > If I find it in the data, this page will inform me on its meaning. > Now if it's bad, you can trust the contributors not to use it. > Also, you can take

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Public Transport v2 Vehicle Type "coach"

2017-10-06 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Martin, Am 2017-10-06 um 09:51 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > what I forgot to conclude: as the values are mostly new, and it’s not an > access restriction, I’d use a different key for this, rather than bus you > could use something like route:scope or route:type etc. Some people (including

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Fire Hydrant Extensions)

2017-10-16 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Alberto, Am 16.10.2017 um 19:28 schrieb Viking: > Voting ended with 21 "no" and 28 "yes", and at least one that would change > "no" to "yes" if we redefine gallons. > Now we have to do decide what to do. Is this enough to delcare it approved? A quote from the wiki (page

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Validity of Route Relations

2017-10-14 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2017-10-14 um 06:49 schrieb Jo: > Maybe > > recheck_itinerary_route_by > > would be a better tag. Then it can also be used when route relations are > changed for roadworks that take more than say, a month and that cause > changes in itinerary. If recheck_itinerary_route_by= reduces the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Validity of Route Relations

2017-10-14 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2017-10-14 um 00:29 schrieb Jo: > 2017-10-13 23:59 GMT+02:00 Andrew Davidson : > We don't have a scheme to tag the timetables and it would be quite hard to > come up with one, involving many relations we don't want to maintain. > Better to leave that part to GTFS. > >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Validity of Route Relations

2017-10-14 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Warin, Am 2017-10-13 um 23:22 schrieb Warin: > On 14-Oct-17 04:11 AM, Michael Reichert wrote: >> end_date=* is used on disused objects or objects whose last day of >> operation/service is known. Common examples are disused railway tracks >> or shops which a

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of Subway Stations

2017-09-24 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Ilya, Am 2017-09-24 um 10:49 schrieb Ilya Zverev: > I had a task of extracting subway infrastructure from OpenStreetMap, and > I found out that some things cannot be mapped at all (e.g. > interchanges), and some are unclear or mapped differently in different > countries. > > Please consider

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of Subway Stations

2017-10-04 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Ilya, Am 25.09.2017 um 09:46 schrieb Ilya Zverev: >> Am 2017-09-24 um 10:49 schrieb Ilya Zverev: >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Metro_Mapping >> >> I don't understand what's the aim of your "proposal". There are almost >> no new tags. Is it intended as a write-up of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Public Transport v2 Vehicle Type "coach"

2017-10-04 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Ialokim, Am 04.10.2017 um 05:36 schrieb Mikolai-Alexander Gütschow: > I've elaborated a proposal for the route=coach tag according to the > Public Transport Scheme v2 and as already in use in some cases. > > See >

Re: [Tagging] Unresolved notes

2018-06-17 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Graeme, Am 17.06.2018 um 08:24 schrieb Graeme Fitzpatrick: > Sorry, copied mixed info > > This bit should show > > Others are showing as a note apparently at a location > https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1037676 but then it appears there's > nothing there to fix https://www.openstreetmap.

Re: [Tagging] `amenity=shelter` implies `building=yes`?

2018-06-17 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Bryan, Am 17.06.2018 um 06:45 schrieb Bryan Housel: > Does `amenity=shelter` imply `building=yes`? > > The osm wiki page does not suggest `building=*` as a “tag to use in > combination” > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=shelter >

Re: [Tagging] Subway vs light rail

2018-01-07 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Fernando, Am 2018-01-04 um 13:32 schrieb Fernando Trebien: > A German mapper just changed the rail type of a line [1] in my area > (southern Brazil) from light_rail to subway. > > Here those trains run on the surface (contrary to most subways) and > have no at-grade intersections with other

Re: [Tagging] Part/whole confusion with Wikidata tag, and the need for enveloping parts into a whole

2018-08-08 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi peterkrauss, Am 08.08.2018 um 03:18 schrieb Nelson A. de Oliveira: > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Yuri Astrakhan > wrote: >> Nelson, there are several places I have seen in our wiki, e.g. [1], which >> discourage duplication of information if it can be avoided. name is a >> special case -

Re: [Tagging] micromapping complex level_crossing

2018-08-29 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Martin, Am 29.08.18 um 11:55 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: >> On 29. Aug 2018, at 10:47, joost schouppe wrote: >> >> Has anyone of you seen a good example of a micromapped complex level >> crossing? >> >> Given how much we like trains, I'm surprised I didn't find a solution >> straight away,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi James, Am 2018-03-12 um 16:43 schrieb James: > https://i.imgur.com/eigT5hX_d.jpg?maxwidth=640=thumb=medium > > How should this be tagged in housenumber? Using unicode ( ½ ) or ASCII( 1/2 > )? Augsburg (Germany) has such house numbers. They use ASCII representation. Best regards Michael --

Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-13 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2018-03-13 um 12:22 schrieb James: > in case it wasnt bad enough, there's 40A to the right of it: > > https://i.imgur.com/MhED15C_d.jpg?maxwidth=640=thumb=medium > > if we are using ASCII do we put a space between 40 and 1/2 to avoid 401/2? > it's the main advantage of using ½ so you can

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - hail and ride

2018-04-10 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Michael, Am 10.04.2018 um 17:45 schrieb Michael Tsang: > The proposed feature "hail and ride" is open for voting: Could you please provide a link to the wiki page? Best regards Michael -- Per E-Mail kommuniziere ich bevorzugt GPG-verschlüsselt. (Mailinglisten ausgenommen) I prefer GPG

Re: [Tagging] Unclear meaning of amenity=bus_station

2018-04-09 Thread Michael Reichert
Hallo Mateusz, Am 09.04.2018 um 12:55 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: > Currently definition at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbus_station > is unclear, it fits two cases > > * intercity bus station (routes between cities, importance comparable > to railway=station) > *

Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and platforms

2018-04-09 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 31.03.2018 um 17:00 schrieb Johnparis: > This implies the following changes to v2: > > 1) every platform node should have mandatory {mode}=yes tag(s) I also think that public_transport=platform without *=yes tags is some kind of incomplete. > 2) stop_positions should be optional on the

Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and platforms

2018-03-28 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Christian, Am 28.03.2018 um 16:21 schrieb "Christian Müller": > In your proposal you complain about subjectively felt things like "history > won't go away", but at the same time you are trying to revert a part of > history itself - "the public_transport tags are seven years old now". Many

[Tagging] When was the deprecation of location=kiosk for power=substation discussed?

2018-04-25 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, while adding a substation to OSM yesterday I looked up the possible values of location=* and missed kiosk. A short glance in the history showes that it removed location=kiosk from the page on 2018-01-02. The edit description mentions man_made=street_cabinet+street_cabinet=power as a

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables Proposal RFC

2018-10-31 Thread Michael Reichert
TL;DR I am agains this proposal. Timetables in OSM are an ugly hack. Please store them outside of OSM and link them using foreign keys. Hi Leif, Am 31.10.18 um 00:54 schrieb Leif Rasmussen: > I recently wrote up a proposal page for public transport schedule data. > This information would allow

Re: [Tagging] Topographic Prominence for Peaks

2018-09-23 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Joseph, Am 23.09.18 um 02:00 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg: > Elevation and prominence can both be calculated from SRTM data, eg by > using Opentopomap tiles and finding the highest contour lines around a > peak, and the lowest near a saddle. > > Prominence and elevation can be calculated by

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal -- RFC -- service=irregular

2019-04-03 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Markus, Am 01.04.19 um 11:52 schrieb Markus:> I'm proposing the tag service=irregular for tram, light rail, > underground and other railway tracks not used for regular scheduled > passenger services, but only for diversions or shortcuts. > >

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Line attachments

2019-03-09 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi François, Am 08/03/2019 um 00.35 schrieb François Lacombe: > The line attachments proposal has been updated according to comments > received all along past weeks. Thanks to TOGA and Nakaner mainly. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Lines_clamps > > It is not restricted

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables Proposal RFC

2019-02-16 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Leif, Am 16/02/2019 um 15.04 schrieb Leif Rasmussen: > Here is a link to the current proposal, which everyone with a wiki account > can now vote on: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_schedules/Departures Please mind the rules documented at

[Tagging] iD adding highway=footway to all railway/public_transport=platform ways and relations

2019-05-22 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, I discovered today that iD suggests to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform objects as part of its new validation rules. On a GitHub ticket I found, Quincy Morgan explained it that way [1]: > Features with these tags are expected to be part of the pedestrian network, >

Re: [Tagging] solving iD conflict (was: pointlessly inflamatory title)

2019-05-23 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Nick, Am 23.05.19 um 21:58 schrieb Nick Bolten: > # My experience with this mailing list: > - Quick to exasperate. > - You will be assumed to be coming to the table in bad faith. > - You will probably be insulted at some point, potentially sworn at. > - The same 8 or so people respond to posts

Re: [Tagging] what todo if the status of a propal isn't set to Voting ?

2019-05-08 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 08.05.19 um 22:14 schrieb marc marc: > Some use the status to check propal with the status=Voting > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Proposals_with_%22Voting%22_status > but some propal fail to have it, currently >

Re: [Tagging] Stop the large feature madness (was: Tag for a plateau or tableland?)

2019-04-19 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 18/04/2019 um 18.52 schrieb Christoph Hormann: > On Thursday 18 April 2019, Kevin Kenny wrote: >> Please avoid the term "label painting." What you call "label >> painting" is the entirely reasonable desire to have recognized, named >> objects appear on the map with their names. > > I

Re: [Tagging] 'track_detail' on railway lines - what does it represent?

2019-04-23 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Dave, Am 21.04.19 um 13:37 schrieb Dave F via Tagging: > 'track_detail, used on railway tracks. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4414158 > > 4700+ total worldwide  3900+ in the UK > > I can find nothing in the wiki > > Is track_detail meant to indicate that all tracks have been

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of bicycle anti-features

2019-10-28 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Tobias, Am 28.10.19 um 19:45 schrieb Tobias Zwick: > Most commonly, a cycleway that just ends without merging it back onto the > street. Do you have images illustrating this? Best regards Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Tagging] Disputed territory mapped as a country

2020-01-27 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Alexey, Am 27/01/2020 um 17.07 schrieb Захаренков Алексей: > Today I discovered a new country in OSM, created in > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/80105029 > with the name "Disputed territory between France and Italy" and tags > "type=boundary + boundary=administrative +

Re: [Tagging] Tagging the presence or absence of signs for surveillance cameras

2020-02-19 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 19.02.20 um 12:45 schrieb Jez Nicholson: > In general, are these signs physically on the camera, or are they in the > vicinity? If so, should they be tagged objects in their own account? In supermarkets and other shops, I do not map surveillance cameras individually. Instead, I just put

Re: [Tagging] How are protected_area (and national_park) boundaries determined?

2020-06-24 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 24.06.20 um 00:31 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > in Italy or Germany, the boundaries of protected areas typically either > exclude builtup areas or if they are included, there are typically explicit > special explanations/provisions for these areas. (there might be exceptions > to this,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - 3rd and 4th rail

2020-06-09 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Colin, Am 09/06/2020 um 15.36 schrieb Colin Smale: > Great idea. Not sure about using "3rd" and "4th" though - it's a bit > tightly coupled to the English language and possibly prone to error. > Wouldn't "3rail" and "4rail" fit the bill? > > Actually, as electrified=rail is so widely used at