Re: Window-eyes for windows 10

2017-03-17 Thread michaeel's mail via Talk
Window eyes works very wel with windows 10. cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Jay via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 3:24 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Window-eyes for windows 10 Hi. I was wondering how accessable window eyes is with windows 10. Is it fully

Win 10 and WE 9.5

2017-03-17 Thread Dave via Talk
I have three systems, one is running Win 10, and the other two run Win 7. As much Bad Press as Win 10 has been given by its detractors, I find, on this system, Win 10 and WE 9.5 run quite well. Smooth, Responsive and very reliable. Now Win 10 has a few odd things, that I can not tell if it

Starting to like Jaws

2017-03-17 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Hello everyone. I am finding that Window-Eyes may no longer be my screen reader of choice. Running the latest version of JFW, admittedly in demo mode. Several things that I have noticed in just under two hours. Web browsing via Internet Explorer has not frozen. Braille display has

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk
that should also give you uncontracted braille instead of contracted braille input and output. On 3/17/2017 5:42 PM, Reg Webb via Talk wrote: You can set braille input and output on the iPhone, contracted, 6 dot, or 8 dot in both cases. ___ Any

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Reg Webb via Talk
You can set braille input and output on the iPhone, contracted, 6 dot, or 8 dot in both cases. -- Reg On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:38:15 -0700 Terri Pannett via Talk wrote: > From what people have posted on various lists that I belong to, I

Re: Window-eyes for windows 10

2017-03-17 Thread brice Mijares via Talk
Most concerning drawback is the lack of the mouse pointer in Windows ten. On 3/17/2017 1:01 PM, Alison May via Talk wrote: Works pretty well for me too Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 0777 315 8181 On 17 Mar 2017, at 7:38 pm, James Wohlgamuth via Talk wrote:

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Certainly: and although I won't be getting an Orbit Reader as it does not meet my requirements, it might be a game changer for many. My Note-taker gets used less and less often as my iPhone usage with any one of several braille displays increases. Vaughan. On 3/18/2017 2:50 AM, Russ

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Pam: VFO is very close to a monopoly. Not quite, as there are other players but certainly close. The point is that it may have become so dominant that it prevents other players from growing their market share or even entering the market. The opinion that someone has offered whereby

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Not completely correct: you are accurate in that by default, contracted braille is the default translation, but you can set things so as to input and output in uncontracted Braille. Or - as I do - input in uncontracted and see output in contracted. Braille on an Apple device for me is

Re: Window-eyes for windows 10

2017-03-17 Thread Alison May via Talk
Works pretty well for me too Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 0777 315 8181 > On 17 Mar 2017, at 7:38 pm, James Wohlgamuth via Talk > wrote: > > Jay, I have been using Window-Eyes with windows 10 since the initial > release of windows 10 and for the most part as

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Stephen Clark via Talk
I've been doing a lot of reading up on this, it appears the future of Windows is a universal platform that can run any app written in any programming language. So, in theory, it won't matter what device or platform you're using. With slight modifications, the same universal app could run on

Re: Window-eyes for windows 10

2017-03-17 Thread James Wohlgamuth via Talk
Jay, I have been using Window-Eyes with windows 10 since the initial release of windows 10 and for the most part as long as you have the latest version of Winow-Eyes it appears to work fairly well. I am running a variety of software and with a few exceptions it works well. The exceptions don't

narrator

2017-03-17 Thread Don H via Talk
So a question for those on the fast ring of the windows insider program is Narrator getting any much needed improvements? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Evan Reese via Talk
Well, the best advice I can give is when first trying to use a touchscreen, take your time. Move your finger slowly around the screen. When I first got my iPad Mini 4, I moved my finger too quickly across the screen, causing me to have trouble finding out what was on the screen because my

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Without veering too much off topic, is there some preliminary advice you can give for trying to learn how to navagate a touch screen? Full disclosure, I'm a button man. On 3/17/2017 9:34 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: > I was one of lthose who thought I would never want a touch screen >

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Remember, most blind persons don't use Braille. On 3/17/2017 12:41 PM, Terri Pannett via Talk wrote: > Again, braille is not supported the way it should be. 20 cells is just > not enough, especially if you want to use braille exclusively and turn > off speech. I would never buy an Orbit for

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
I once said, don't force me to buy a computer. On 3/17/2017 12:38 PM, Terri Pannett via Talk wrote: > From what people have posted on various lists that I belong to, I > understand that using braille on an Apple device would be a challenge. > This is because everything is translated into grade 2

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
On the other hand, we have a resource we never had before, Ebay. Also, there are more voice activated appliances than ever before including Alexa. It's a tradeoff. On 3/17/2017 12:42 PM, Evan Reese via Talk wrote: > The "vast number of electronic items that have unreadable Screens of all >

Re: Window-eyes for windows 10

2017-03-17 Thread Loy via Talk
I meant it works great for me. - Original Message - From: Jay via Talk To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 12:24 PM Subject: Window-eyes for windows 10 Hi. I was wondering how accessable window eyes is with windows 10. Is it fully accessable?

Re: Window-eyes for windows 10

2017-03-17 Thread Loy via Talk
Works grit for me. - Original Message - From: Jay via Talk To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 12:24 PM Subject: Window-eyes for windows 10 Hi. I was wondering how accessable window eyes is with windows 10. Is it fully accessable? What do

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Terri Pannett via Talk
From what people have posted on various lists that I belong to, I understand that using braille on an Apple device would be a challenge. This is because everything is translated into grade 2 instantly so if you don't write fast enough, your text will be garbled. People who prefer braille will

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Evan Reese via Talk
The "vast number of electronic items that have unreadable Screens of all sizes", includes household appliances now. We had a heck of a time a few years ago finding a stove we could use. If you haven't looked lately, just about all of them come with a screen that you have to use to set the

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Terri Pannett via Talk
Again, braille is not supported the way it should be. 20 cells is just not enough, especially if you want to use braille exclusively and turn off speech. I would never buy an Orbit for that reason. Terri Amateur radio call sign KF6CA ___ Any views

RE: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Reg Web, President Trump going blind? You've been wiretapping the green White House! Oh, and from England? Yikes! You're in trouble, you've been spying for the UK5 for a long, long time! Now watch out, we're coming after you!! Sarcasm apart, it would probably be hidden from the public the

Window-eyes for windows 10

2017-03-17 Thread Jay via Talk
Hi. I was wondering how accessable window eyes is with windows 10. Is it fully accessable? What do windows 10 users if any on this list think about Window-eyes on windows 10? Thanks. Any feedback would be greatly appresiated. Jay. Sent from my iPhone

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Terri Pannett via Talk
I don't think you said anything about braille. Braille has always been important to me, and I wonder if the mainstream phones and computers would support it if the braille notetakers/displays were no longer around. Only blind people who read and write braille exclusively can understand this.

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Dave via Talk
Yes Rick, I reluctantly agree with you that too many things have become Political. And I for one, do not know how to reverse this politicizing of every sort of Service the Government or Privet Sector might offer. Let's face it, the Blind are a very small group when looking at the entire

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Reg Webb via Talk
Pam And for those who would monopolise, the prospects for screwing more money out of their friends in government agencies don't look so rosy under a Trump administration which would only get interested if the president himself went blind. -- Reg On Fri, 17 Mar 2017

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Loy via Talk
The only other screen reader I know of is Dolphin and who knows it may be next on VFO's list of Acquisitions . - Original Message - From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 10:51 AM Subject: Re:

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Somebody asked me why didn't I get office, and download the free window eyes. I ask why I should. I already have the window eyes that I bought on time payments, back when they had them. So, I already have window eyes. So, all I have to do is buy smas. So, I hope they do update it. Pam.

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I remember when this all went down, I referred to VFO as a monopoly, and was smartly chastized for it. I don't know why. To me, it seems like it has taken over everything. Isn't that a monopoly? Pam. -Original Message- From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent:

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Loy via Talk
Microsoft could developed Narrator to work as good as any screen reader and the cost could be spread out across million and millions of copies of Windows, where a company like VFO or AISquared has to spread out the cost to a few thousand copies of the screen readers sold. Apple did it so why

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk
Sometimes i wonder what microsoft really saw in window eyes in the first place? I mean they could have advanced narrater to the point it is today with in windows 10 and made it work fluently with all windowsoperating systems. On 3/17/2017 7:57 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: Yep, and we don't

Re: Window-eyes wake up call!

2017-03-17 Thread Dave via Talk
I would speculate that any money gotten from Microsoft has long been spent by now. As for the old Staff of GW Micro and NVDA getting together. . . Well anything is possible, but if there isn't any money in it, then would have to say this union is not very probable.Plus there are probably

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Think about this? You can get a iphone and APH — Orbit Reader 20 for a lot less money than a Notetaker? -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:44 PM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account I'm

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
I was one of lthose who thought I would never want a touch screen device. I started llistening to a podcast about the ipod touch. The more I listened, I said to myself, I want one. I was amazed with what Apple did with accessibility on a touch screen device. So in 2010, I bought a ipod

RE: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
Yep, and we don't know what microsoft was paying for the product. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: Hi Vaughn. When the office deal came out, remember, they have two versions of Window-Eyes that you can get. The free version, with

RE: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
I agree. Our Country is nuts brainwashed when it comes to Capitalism, doesn't really practice it, but uses the concepts to route ever larger amounts of money and assets to the top 1 percent at the cost of the other 99 percent of us. The Middle class is dying, will die at an even faster pace

RE: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
Hi: My concern is going forward and how the screen readers will work with the new 2017 windows version The Creators. It has allot of new features like virtual reality and other things of a visual nature according to one fellow I talked to recently. Will JAWS and, or, WindowEyes be able to handle

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Reg Webb via Talk
Well said sir. That's more like it. -- Reg On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 20:34:25 -0600 "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk" wrote: > Tony, I could not agree more! It seems to me that blind folks are pretty > happy being ripped off.

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

2017-03-17 Thread Reg Webb via Talk
I happen to think, on a humanitarian rather than on a political level, that some goods and services, defined as essential, should be shielded from market forces. I would include health care (I'm British), and access technology. In this category, people like clinicians and the developers of

Re: Window-eyes wake up call!

2017-03-17 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
There are likely proprietary issues which prevent this from happening. For example, who owns the Window-eyes name? And there are employees under contract to VFO I imagine. None of us knows the terms of the merger. On 3/17/2017 1:39 AM, Brandon Miller via Talk wrote: > Window-eyes developers,