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Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
I wonder what new features jaws 19 will offer in October?
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From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:15 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
Jaws2018
That would be correct.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:08 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: joseph.nor...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: contacting Doug
They're changing the version numbering scheme. JAWS 19 is now going to be JAWS
2018. I think all their software is going to the year model version numbering.
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and do not
I wonder what new features jaws 19 will offer in October?
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From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:15 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
Jaws2018 as it will be called will be important to see what
] On
Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:11 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Nick Sarames
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
I am realmly unclear as to what VFO has done since the acquisition.
Forget about what they did before the "mehrger (that's no longer
rel
rew to the bitter end.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via
> Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 2:04 PM
> To: bjn...@windstream.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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> Cc: Lo
longer than to take
that risk.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell
via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:12 PM
To: bjn...@windstream.net; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Sky Mundell
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
That is my
Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:58 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Steve Jacobson
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
It is possible I am misinterpreting this note, but I really think that both
Doug and Dan thought that the merger with AI Squared would give Window-Eyes a
fresh
To: bjn...@windstream.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Loy
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
When I heard the head at AISquared speak at the time of the merger, I did not
like him, I could since he was not being totally honest about the future of WE
and AISquared.
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Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
When I heard the head at AISquared speak at the time of the merger, I did not
like him, I could since he was not being totally honest about the future of WE
a
22, 2017 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
I too was hopeful the AI Squared merge would be good for Window-eyes.
but, the merge was lopsided and seems more like a sale as GW had no more
control.
I always thought AI Squared was directed by VFO to bring them
Window-eyes as VFO
Of Brenda via
Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:00 AM
To: Butch Bussen via Talk
Cc: Brenda
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
I too was hopeful the AI Squared merge would be good for Window-eyes.
but, the merge was lopsided and seems more like a sale as GW had no more
control.
I always thought
indow-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
When GW sold out to AI squared that was effectively the end of WE.
Remember everyone has their price Dan and Doug got there price.
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Cc: Steve Jacobson
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
It is possible I am misinterpreting this note, but I really think that both
Doug and Dan thought that the merger with AI Squared would give Window-Eyes a
fresh burst of resources to get over the hump on changes that were very much
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Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacob...@visi.com>
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
It is possible I am misinterpreting this note, but I really think that both
Doug and Dan thought that the merger with AI Squared would give Window-Eyes a
fresh burst of reso
: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long
via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:00 AM
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Cc: Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
When GW sold out t
1, 2017 6:50 AM
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Cc: Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
You are correct, the article was posted for historical purposes.
It's interesting to see how many screen readers we had back then.
Jaws wonthe the battle and now is king of the hill.
-Origina
: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Reeva Webb
via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Reeva Webb
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
Watch fs make zt bloated and terrible with yearly updates. Oh, ai2, y'all
shouldn't have gotten
I don't see how. The company name changed to AI Squared.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell
via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 1:34 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Sky Mundell
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
So
So they couldn't control Window-Eyes or anything.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long
via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 10:22 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
Simple
: Sky Mundell
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
How do you know it was the end when they sold out?
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long
via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 10:00 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
It was a "merger" however money had to have exchanged hands.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell
via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 1:21 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Sky Mundell
Subject: RE: conta
:00 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
When GW sold out to AI squared that was effectively the end of WE. Remember
everyone has their price Dan and Doug got there price.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window
How do you know it was the end when they sold out?
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long
via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 10:00 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
When GW
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Reeva Webb
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
Watch fs make zt bloated and terrible with yearly updates. Oh, ai2, y'all
shouldn't have gotten with the shark.
"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night
has just begun, so sing wi
...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Reeva Webb
via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 9:12 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Reeva Webb
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
Watch fs make zt bloated and terrible with yearly updates. Oh, ai2, y'all
shouldn't have gotten with the shark.
"the world has
k
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 6:50 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Russ Kiehne
> Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
>
> You are correct, the article was posted for historical purposes.
> It's interesting to see how many screen readers we had back then. Jaws
> wonthe
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Debby Franson
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
Hi Loy!
No, I agree that the article would not be fair today, but I think this article
was posted for historical purposes, not anything about the current day.
Debby
At 10:25 AM 8/19/2017, Loy via Talk wrote
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Debby Franson
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
Hi Loy!
No, I agree that the article would not be fair today, but I think this
article was posted for historical purposes, not anything about the current
day.
Debby
At 10:25 AM 8/19/2017, Loy via Talk wrote
This would
Hi Olusegun!
I wish you much success in your Android migration.
I have never had a custom scrip/app written for me. I'm not planning on
asking VFO with their exorbitant prices to write any for me.
Has anyone had a custom app written by GW Micro/AI Squared? I'm just
curious how much that
since 1996. - Original Message - From: Russ Kiehne
via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Russ Kiehne Sent:
Saturday, August 19, 2017 9:42 AM Subject: Re: contacting Doug. Check
this out from times past! Date:Tue, 11 Jun 1996 14:49:26
EDT From:Jamal
Yes, window eyes has come a long way sense then. Notice how many screen
readers are no longer around sense then?
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From: Loy via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 8:25 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Loy
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
This would
Debby, it's the death of Window-Eyes that's KICKING ME off the Windows OS
completely. Though I am still using Windows machines, I'm doing so until
each one dies and I plunk it down the drain of a landfill near me. As a
wee, small business owner, I can't tell you how much time GW Micro, Inc.
: contacting Doug.
My thoughts...
I thought the NFB was supposed to help blind people - surprised they
would sell out to a single screen reader, especially an inferior one.
aaron smithwas at VFO as Enterprise Compliance specialist. I don't
think VFO gave us Jaws because they wanted to, they may have had
This would not be a air comparison now, Window Eyes progressed much faster than
JAWS since 1996.
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From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Russ Kiehne
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
Check
his article may infer
regarding their product.
-Original Message-
From: Ian Westerland via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 3:04 PM
To: Sky Mundell via Talk
Cc: Ian Westerland
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
Hello everyone. I am still using Window-Eyes and the various Android
app
3:18 AM
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
The smaller one still has to agree to it.
On 8/19/2017 1:56 AM, michaels mail via Talk wrote:
> Ian very well said.
> The thing in life is the bigger companys swallow up the smaller ones.
> cheers Michael.
>
> -Original Me
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 1:51 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: michaels mail
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
Hi Debby i first started with WE version 4.5 SP1.
It came in the old large cardboard pacage with the cassettes WE has
been a
good screen reader.
I use to get cranky when WE
I think I didn't really have trouble with window eyes losing focus until a
couple of years ago. Pam.
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Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 1:51 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: michaels mail
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
Hi Debby i
People keep saying that they did. I have been in the NFB since 1975, and I
have never heard anything like this. Pam.
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From: Brenda via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 7:41 PM
To: Dennis Long via Talk
Cc: Brenda
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
My thoughts...
I
aturday, August 19, 2017 8:04 AM
> To: Sky Mundell via Talk
> Cc: Ian Westerland
> Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
>
>
> Hello everyone. I am still using Window-Eyes and the various Android
> apps in my smart phone but I think the 4 B's might apply here to FS,
> Jaws and
Ian very well said.
The thing in life is the bigger companys swallow up the smaller ones.
cheers Michael.
-Original Message-
From: Ian Westerland via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 8:04 AM
To: Sky Mundell via Talk
Cc: Ian Westerland
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
Hello everyone
via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 1:00 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Debby Franson
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
Hi Michael!
I was trying to remember exactly when Window-Eyes was first released. I
know it was in 1995. Here is a page I enjoyed reading that answered that
question
Same hear he was very good to us We lovers.
cheers.
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From: Debby Franson via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 12:51 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Debby Franson
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
Hi Michael!
I'm not on Linked In, but I'd love to wish Doug
: contacting Doug. You can tell fs starting
to get desperate. Fs 10 or 15 years ago wouldn't have given you discounts
on anything. For most the out of the box accessibility, android, apple
etc. will work for what they need to do. I'm curious though, is anyone
from gw or pre merger ai2 still around
; 'Dennis Long' Cc: Joseph Norton Subject: RE: contacting
Doug. Ah, I think I see where youâre going with this. Are you saying
things may be getting to a point where the cost of maintaining JAWS is
greater than anyone wants to pay in terms of keeping the company going? I
know itâs not because
Hi Olusegun!
I agree. The bar was set so high with Window-Eyes, that nothing else has
reached as high, and I don't think anything will. That was why, when I read
the end of life pop-up, I literally grieved, knowing that my first love in
screen readers had caught the disease of obsolescence
Yeah they could have sued VFO.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Reeva
Webb via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 4:47 PM
To: bjn...@windstream.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Reeva Webb
Subject: Re: contacting Doug.
Yep
ent. 3 NFB.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of
>> ratshtron via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:50 AM
>> To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Cc: ratshtron
>
Discussion List
Cc: ratshtron
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
hmmm, if you can't beat the competition, kill it! I believe I'm going to
switch to apple, BIG GRIN!
Legend has it that on Wednesday 8/16/2017 08:02 PM, Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, said:
Well
, 2017 11:42 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Reeva Webb
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
You can tell fs starting to get desperate. Fs 10 or 15 years ago wouldn't have
given you discounts on anything. For most the out of the box accessibility,
android, apple etc. will work for what they need
:42 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Reeva Webb
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
You can tell fs starting to get desperate. Fs 10 or 15 years ago wouldn't have
given you discounts on anything. For most the out of the box accessibility,
android, apple etc. will work for what they need to do
Russ wrote:
"I wonder if jaws is getting to big to fail?"
Jaws is probably running scared, too afraid to let down the gauntlet! See
how many times it has changed hands? Hinter-Joyce, Freedom Scientific, and
now V F O Group. May be Aerofloat will pick it up next, sell it to HMD, and
somewhere
I wonder if jaws is getting to big to fail?
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:00 AM
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Dennis Long'
Cc: Joseph Norton
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
Ah, I think I see where
Well i am still hear i been useing WE since 2004.
And i took the offer to Jaws as well.
Cheers michael.
-Original Message-
From: Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 4:41 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Reeva Webb
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
You can tell fs
michael.
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 4:00 AM
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Dennis Long'
Cc: Joseph Norton
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
Ah, I think I see where you’re going with this.
Are you saying
Chief Dennis, technology will overtake NFB and force it to THINK OUT OF THE
BOX! Remember, it was against tactile markings on the dollar bill to make
it easy for you and I to identify. It actually filed what in law is known
as AMICUS BRIEF, in layman's and laywoman's language, FRIEND OF THE
Aaron Smith was still there a while ago, but he may be gone now.
- Original Message -
From: Reeva Webb via Talk
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Reeva Webb
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
You can tell fs starting to get desperate
, August 17, 2017 10:50 AM
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: ratshtron
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
hmmm, if you can't beat the competition, kill it! I believe I'm going to
switch to apple, BIG GRIN!
Legend has it that on Wednesday 8/16/2017 08:02 PM, Olusegun --
Victory
product on the
> Windows side. It is improving, but, not enough for many of us to get rid
> of JAWS.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:02 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; '
. It is improving, but, not enough for many of us to get rid of JAWS.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:02 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Dennis Long'
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
Well, Michael, I once
hmmm, if you can't beat the competition, kill it! I believe I'm going
to switch to apple, BIG GRIN!
Legend has it that on Wednesday 8/16/2017 08:02 PM, Olusegun --
Victory Associates LTD, said:
Well, Michael, I once opined that the war Freedom
Denis, when Window-Eyes was a sick, comatose child with no drugs left in the
arsenal to propel it back to life, we said so and were rebuffed by many.
Look what happened! Those of us who knew and were not afraid or ashamed to
say so came out swinging like champions that won all four
Well, Michael, I once opined that the war Freedom Scientific could not win
in the courts, was well fought and won outside; with its cohorts and coterie
of friends, it succeeded in drowning the boat!
The merger with AI Square came to me as a surprise; I didn't want to see it
happen, but what
Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:27 PM
To: 'michael fridey'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: contacting Doug.
I'm not surprised by this.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of michael
+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of michael fridey via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:48 PM
To: window eyes help list
Subject: contacting Doug.
Hi guys i sent Doug an email and got the responce below saying he does not
work for VFO any more.
Its a bit sad he did
I'm not surprised by this.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of michael fridey via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:48 PM
To: window eyes help list
Subject: contacting Doug.
Hi guys i sent Doug an email
Hi guys i sent Doug an email and got the responce below saying he does
not work for VFO any more.
Its a bit sad he did not get to say good by on the list.
Doug was a good person and did his best for us Window Eyes users.
Cheers michael.
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