Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-05 Thread Tony C via Talk
Wednesday, April 5, 2017 9:39 AM To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: FW: makeing the switch I agree, Rod. If an iPad or Mac can do everything one wants then it's certainly a viable option. And that's the only point I'm trying to stress: make sure it can do what you want befo

Re: FW: makeing the switch

2017-04-05 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net> Subject: RE: makeing the switch Hi Tom, I totally agree with your intention to tone down the enthusiasm to make an unwarranted switch. And yet, depending on what they want or need to do, it can be a viable option to switch, or at least use IOS for the ma

FW: makeing the switch

2017-04-05 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
ct: RE: makeing the switch Hi Tom, I totally agree with your intention to tone down the enthusiasm to make an unwarranted switch. And yet, depending on what they want or need to do, it can be a viable option to switch, or at least use IOS for the majority of their computer work. However, nothing wil

Fwd: Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:45 PM To: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: makeing the switch Loy, Yes. Mac OS is a full blown operating system like Windows while iOS is a slimmed down mobile OS designed to run on the mini co

RE: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
, April 4, 2017 10:45 PM To: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: makeing the switch Loy, Yes. Mac OS is a full blown operating system like Windows while iOS is a slimmed down mobile OS designed to run on the mini computers it

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
- From: Butch Bussen via Talk To: Janet Brandly ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 2:24 PM Subject: Re: makeing the switch I actually bought a used mac mini a couple years ago, maybe 3 or 4. It was all just to foreign to me. Not only is the o s different

RE: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
PM To: Tony C <tch...@mediacombb.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: makeing the switch i have heard and read this argument before. It may have held some water in the past, but not today. For one thing, most of us already have a computer, and

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread net bat via Talk
if things are still the same apple can read a windows formatted drive if you use fat32 instead of the ntfs? format. -Original Message- From: Andy Baracco via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 6:54 PM To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: makeing the switch i have

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Andy Baracco via Talk
t...@dslextreme.com>; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 3:15 PM Subject: Re: makeing the switch I just priced an I Mac at $1099. Hell, Jaws will cost you more than that, and then try and get tech support without being ma

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Tony C via Talk
Subject: Re: makeing the switch Is A desk top Mac OS different that on an IPad? - Original Message - From: Butch Bussen via Talk To: Janet Brandly ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 2:24 PM Subject: Re: makeing the switch I actually bought a used mac mini

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Tony C via Talk
To: Charles Adkins ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: makeing the switch For me at least, the expense of a new PC plus the expense of having to switch to JAWS if WE goes under, might very well equal or exceed the expense of a new Mac. Evan -Original Message- From: Charles Adkins via Talk

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Loy via Talk
Is A desk top Mac OS different that on an IPad? - Original Message - From: Butch Bussen via Talk To: Janet Brandly ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 2:24 PM Subject: Re: makeing the switch I actually bought a used mac mini a couple years ago, maybe

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Tony C via Talk
I'm going to keep my windows 10 PC, but I'm getting rid of my windows 8.1 PC. -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:03 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: makeing the switch I'm not making the switch. I use WE, NVDA, and Narrator

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
, April 04, 2017 4:04 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: makeing the switch Well, I guess I’ve fought it for as long as I can. I’ve refused for several years to consider switching to a Mac, but with the apparent demise of Window Eyes, and Jaws sucking as it always has, I’m going

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
exact reasons. If you decide to blog about your >> experiences as you adjust to doing tasks with a different screen-reader, I'd >> be interested in following your adventures. >> >> >> Janet >> >> -Original Message----- From: Tony C via Talk >> Se

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Evan Reese via Talk
-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: makeing the switch The only thing that keeps me from switching is the expense of a mac and I am obligated to use Windows at work at the radio station. I must admit though that I use my desktops less and do most things on my Iphone. Again its the big expense

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Charles Adkins via Talk
; > -Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 4:04 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: makeing the switch > > Well, I guess I’ve fought it for as long as I can. I’ve refused for several > years to consider switching to a

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread bj colt via Talk
Brandly via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 5:14 PM To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: makeing the switch Hi Tony, I totally agree and am in a similar situation. My laptop is likely nearing the end of its lifes'an and I'm seriously considering changing to an Apple product

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Janet Brandly via Talk
-reader, I'd be interested in following your adventures. Janet -Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 4:04 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: makeing the switch Well, I guess I’ve fought it for as long as I can. I’ve refused for several years

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk
To be honest with you I feel the same way. I have been a loyal jaws, and window eyes user for over a decade and I am finding that Voiceover handels web content better then the windows screen readers now a days. Also the cost of the screen reader in a mac is free and is also constantly

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk
work with it? -Original Message- From: Loy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 5:16 AM To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: makeing the switch WE is not dead yet. It still works great for me and they still respond to a support question, although this is not as good

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
The big test will be when windows 10 Creators update is released. Will window-eyes work with it? -Original Message- From: Loy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 5:16 AM To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: makeing the switch WE is not dead yet. It still works

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Tony: I am not pulling the plug on Window-eyes just yet. It works well for me, and when it doesn't, I have played with JAWS enough to know that it seems to have improved from years ago. The only thing is that I do not feel justified in paying all that money for JAWS when NVDA is free and

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Loy via Talk
WE is not dead yet. It still works great for me and they still respond to a support question, although this is not as good as it used to be. - Original Message - From: Tony C via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 6:04 AM Subject: makeing

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Message- From: Tony C via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 6:04 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: makeing the switch Well, I guess I’ve fought it for as long as I can. I’ve refused for several years to consider switching to a Mac, but with the apparent demise of Window Eyes, and Jaws

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Chris G via Talk
AM EST To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: makeing the switch Well, I guess I’ve fought it for as long as I can. I’ve refused for several years to consider switching to a Mac, but with the apparent demise of Window Eyes, and Jaws sucking as it always has, I’m going to be making the switch

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread John Covici via Talk
You are comparing windows screen readers with the ios platform, very different fish. I would try the Mac before you buy, there is a 14 day return period. VO on the Mac is not the same as VO on an iphone, it may or may not work depending on the website. On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 06:04:43 -0400, Tony C

Re: makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
Well, I started with Vocal-Eyes back in the good ol' DOS days, and have been with them ever since. I have a Mac, but my problem is corporate world uses Microsoft products, and the Office stuff for the Mac isn't accessible enough for my taste.--Matthew Chao On 4/4/2017 6:04 AM, Tony C via

makeing the switch

2017-04-04 Thread Tony C via Talk
Well, I guess I’ve fought it for as long as I can. I’ve refused for several years to consider switching to a Mac, but with the apparent demise of Window Eyes, and Jaws sucking as it always has, I’m going to be making the switch. I’ve been a loyal WE user since 2004, but it seems that it’s time