Re: [Talk-hr] Lista stranica koje koriste OSM

2012-11-05 Thread hbogner
U tom je i poanta, neznamo, na ovaj način bi saznali. Kad netko nađe nešto novo, doda. na to su me danas podsjetila groblja. Hrvoje On 5.11.2012. 11:54, Janko Mihelić wrote: Koliko ih uopće ima? Ja znam samo za Gradska groblja.. Janko ___

Re: [Talk-hr] Lista stranica koje koriste OSM

2012-11-05 Thread Darko Boto
ja znam za ZET i Gradski ured za upravljanje u hitnim situacijama. ZET je imao onu kartu sa trenutnim lokacijama tramvaja koja je nekako iscurila van, a hitne intervencije hostaju na GISCloud-u koji koristi OSM kao podlogu. 2012/11/5 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com: U tom je i poanta, neznamo, na ovaj

Re: [Talk-hr] Gradska groblja koriste OSM

2012-11-05 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Koliko vidim koriste mycloudapp.net, što je azure cloud, dakle MS tehnologija, bljak. parcele su lijepo označili: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/184632/osm%20groblja.png Još bi bilo bolje da su nešto od tih podataka vratili u OSM bazu. 2012/11/5 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com Neznam jeste vidjeli ali

Re: [Talk-hr] Lista stranica koje koriste OSM

2012-11-05 Thread Janko Mihelić
Onda sam za :) Dana 5. studenoga 2012. 12:37 Darko Boto darko.b...@gmail.com je napisao/la: ja znam za ZET i Gradski ured za upravljanje u hitnim situacijama. ZET je imao onu kartu sa trenutnim lokacijama tramvaja koja je nekako iscurila van, a hitne intervencije hostaju na GISCloud-u koji

Re: [Talk-hr] Lista stranica koje koriste OSM

2012-11-05 Thread SilverSpace
Vrlo dobra ideja da se negdje napiše tko u hr koristi osm na svojoj domeni. Dana 5. studenoga 2012. 13:07 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Onda sam za :) Dana 5. studenoga 2012. 12:37 Darko Boto darko.b...@gmail.com je napisao/la: ja znam za ZET i Gradski ured za upravljanje

Re: [Talk-hr] Lista stranica koje koriste OSM

2012-11-05 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
GPP Osijek za interaktivnu kartu koristi OSM, još uvijek nisu stavili OSM logo pa sam im poslao friendly reminder. Ima li tko primjer što i kako treba izgledati atribucija? Je li dovoljno staviti tekst Powered by OpenStreetMap ili treba i logo? 2012/11/5 SilverSpace mirozag...@ubuntu-hr.org

Re: [Talk-hr] Lista stranica koje koriste OSM

2012-11-05 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ne treba logo. Treba samo negdje napisati *(c) OpenStreetMap contributors* i dodati link na *www.openstreetmap.org/copyright* Više o tome: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#3._Using Dana 5. studenoga 2012. 13:15 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com je napisao/la:

Re: [Talk-hr] Gradska groblja koriste OSM

2012-11-05 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Ma nije frka, to mi je kolega, bio je član naše wifi udruge. Jedino mu je tlaka jer je to u flashu, ali kaže da će napraviti. 2012/11/5 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com Ali oni to zakonski ne trebaju, tako da ne treba navaljivati. Dana 5. studenoga 2012. 13:11 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com je

Re: [Talk-hr] Gradska groblja koriste OSM

2012-11-05 Thread hbogner
On 5.11.2012. 13:35, Janko Mihelić wrote: Ali oni to zakonski ne trebaju, tako da ne treba navaljivati. Nisam ni mislio za podatke navaljivati, nego ponuditi pomoc :D ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-hr] Lista stranica koje koriste OSM

2012-11-05 Thread hbogner
Dakle gdje i kad ćemo početi s tim? Wiki? Naša verzija ovog: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_based_Services ? ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Data consumer use cases

2012-11-05 Thread Igor Brejc
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/11/5 David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net: btw.: also removing might be of interest, e.g. someone checking all businesses in OSM and removing them in the case they are closed now would be a major improvement

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Lester Caine
Robin Paulson wrote: 2(e) use the Products in a manner that gives you or any other person access to mass downloads or bulk feeds of any Content, including but not limited to numerical latitude or longitude coordinates, imagery, and visible map data; so checking the odd street names is OK.. but

[OSM-talk] Abu Musa alignment

2012-11-05 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Hey, I once did a lot of tracing of a small island in the Persian Gulf when high res Bing imagery became available. At one point I discovered it was terribly miss-aligned by kilometers. I think I may have even re-aligned it based on yahoo imagery. With Abu Musa being in the news lately I would

Re: [OSM-talk] minutely update DB

2012-11-05 Thread Christian Quest
If you want to maintain a Europe extracted updated, have a look at the Europe diffs available here: http://download.openstreetmap.fr/replication/europe/minute/ 2012/11/4 ciprian niculescu cnicu...@gmail.com: Hello, I need to have a hourly or minutely up-to date DB of OSM. I found infos on how

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 5 November 2012 19:31, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Sorry, but in this case how the would they know if someone had cross checked something against Streetview? There is NO need to make any mention of that and yes I do cross check, ... Perhaps they might read your email on a

Re: [OSM-talk] Abu Musa alignment

2012-11-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Floris. The data is correct, but the outline of the island is part of the coastline and therefore updated only on manual request by someone in the admin team. Use the edit/show data (or sth. like that; I only have the German website here) on the website to check that. Usually this should

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Pieren
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Robin Paulson ro...@bumblepuppy.org wrote: and by the way, whoever it was using the phrase memory aid does not change what is happening. it is copying data whatever linguistic gymnastics you go through to try and justify it, and is thus not ok. as someone else

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/5 Robin Paulson ro...@bumblepuppy.org: let's say there are 100,000 people involved in OSM. each copies one name from google (so, not in her/his eyes a mass download). the OSM database then contains 100,000 pieces of data which are sourced from google. this then does constitute a mass

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Martin wrote: The terms and conditions apply to who uses the Google service, Do they actually ? If their terms would state that you owe Google one dollar for each picture, would that hold in court ? In what way the current terms are different from asking money Any pay site makes you pay

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Lester Caine
Ian Sergeant wrote: Sorry, but in this case how the would they know if someone had cross checked something against Streetview? There is NO need to make any mention of that and yes I do cross check, ... Perhaps they might read your email on a public list? And what does that prove? They

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Sorry, but in this case how the would they know if someone had cross checked something against Streetview? There is NO need to make any mention of that and yes I do cross check, but MORE simply to confirm that

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Lester Caine
Floris Looijesteijn wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Sorry, but in this case how the would they know if someone had cross checked something against Streetview? There is NO need to make any mention of that

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Only if they can prove that anonymous activity on one is directly related to some identified activity on the other at an unrelated time ... I am sure a court would only accept a proven pattern rather than a vague

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Mike N
On 11/5/2012 8:15 AM, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: If they can find views (maybe even searches) for 1 or multiple areas and correlate those with 1 or multiple changesets on OSM they have the proof they want. And Google could always use Photoshop to plant a few 'Easter eggs' with fake names in

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Lester Caine
Floris Looijesteijn wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Only if they can prove that anonymous activity on one is directly related to some identified activity on the other at an unrelated time ... I am sure a court

[OSM-talk] Packaged OSM Tile Sets by US County or State?

2012-11-05 Thread Arnie Shore
I'd like to be able to point US users of our Open Source CAD package at any available packaged OSM tile sets, by county or state. Ideally free of course, but a moderate cost might be acceptable. I've poked around looking for such unsuccessfully. Any recommended sources? Arnie Shore Tickets

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Vladimir Vyskocil
After searching in taginfo, I found all these other instances of data copied from Google, such as some data in Paris that was tagged as coming from Google Street View (I deleted it). Vandal ! I have contacted the Data Working Group, they ought to do a better job deleting the data than

Re: [OSM-talk] Packaged OSM Tile Sets by US County or State?

2012-11-05 Thread Matthias Meisser
Am 05.11.2012 15:00, schrieb Arnie Shore: I'd like to be able to point US users of our Open Source CAD package at any available packaged OSM tile sets, by county or state. Ideally free of course, but a moderate cost might be acceptable. I've poked around looking for such unsuccessfully. Any

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Data consumer use cases

2012-11-05 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:43 PM Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Data consumer use cases Goal-oriented wiki page, first draft:

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I haven't read this thread in full but it has come to my attention that people in this thread have argued that it would be acceptable to use Google StreetView pictures when mapping. It is not. The legal situation may be debatable and indeed differ from country to country but

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 05.11.2012 16:42, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, I haven't read this thread in full but it has come to my attention that people in this thread have argued that it would be acceptable to use Google StreetView pictures when mapping. It is not. The legal situation may be debatable and

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Pieren
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: So don't use Google Street View for mapping unless you have explicit permission from Google to do so. Since this question is coming back at regular intervals since years, did the OSMF take some actions and contact Google

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism at Estero Bay?

2012-11-05 Thread malenki
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: btw.: wouldn't this merit a natural=bay instead of the note=bay? Of course though somehow I was temporarily blinded or something. ;) Nevertheless Josm mentioned it as Meeresbucht (Translation of bay) on the relations window. The user has responded now. He said he

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Data consumer use cases

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/5 David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net: I believe there could be a misinterpretation that If you just use the OSM database means if you don't add anything to OSM data. btw.: also removing might be of interest, e.g. someone checking all businesses in OSM and removing them in the case

[OSM-legal-talk] tesco store location data

2012-11-05 Thread David Prime
All, I was looking at the tesco store finder page and noticed their API was very simple: a lat/lon and a radius in miles to specify a search circle for the results. I set the radius to 1000 miles and put the centre in London and got all the Tesco locations, along with decent metadata, in the UK.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] tesco store location data

2012-11-05 Thread Josh Doe
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:27 PM, David Prime da...@primefarm.co.uk wrote: [...] Now, my question is whether I should import this into OSM. Obviously the data is very useful (every store is categorised: metro, express, extra, etc) but the licencing situation is murky. Anyone want to weight in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] tesco store location data

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Hill
On 05/11/12 17:27, David Prime wrote: All, I was looking at the tesco store finder page and noticed their API was very simple: a lat/lon and a radius in miles to specify a search circle for the results. I set the radius to 1000 miles and put the centre in London and got all the Tesco

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] tesco store location data

2012-11-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Chris Hill wrote: So the answer, as always with this sort of question, is no we cannot use that data without written permission of the copyright holder to use this data in OSM for any purpose. I don't think that is likely to be forthcoming. Indeed. Don't forget, too, that Tesco probably

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05.11.2012 17:04, Pieren wrote: Since this question is coming back at regular intervals since years, did the OSMF take some actions and contact Google to get a definitive answer? Not as far as I know. Or should each individual contributor contact again Google as in the email's copy I

Re: [OSM-talk] Packaged OSM Tile Sets by US County or State?

2012-11-05 Thread Jeff Meyer
OpenStreetMap-in-a-Box appears to be effectively deprecated / eol'd / retired / etc... does anyone know anything to the contrary? On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Matthias Meisser dig...@arcor.de wrote: Am 05.11.2012 15:00, schrieb Arnie Shore: I'd like to be able to point US users of our

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Vladimir Vyskocil
Hi, According to : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_work In United States copyright law, a derivative work is an expressive creation that includes major, copyright-protected elements of an original, previously created first work (theunderlying work). Obviously looking at google street

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Cartinus
Copyright has absolutely nothing to do with this at all. All arguments people use in this this discussion in relation to copyright are just a smokescreen to try to get their way. When viewing Google StreetView you are using a service from Google. The rules in relation to that, are the rules for

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Pieren
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Not as far as I know. Sad that OSMF is not taking five minutes to post the question to Google. Some contributors did it in the past. I don't think that a personal message to one individual mapper from someone, even if in

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Cartinus
On 11/06/2012 12:12 AM, Pieren wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Not as far as I know. Sad that OSMF is not taking five minutes to post the question to Google. Some contributors did it in the past. If it is so simple, why don't you do it

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Not as far as I know. Sad that OSMF is not taking five minutes to post the question to Google. Some contributors did it in the past. I don't think that a

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 6 November 2012 00:29, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Not as far as I know. Sad that OSMF is not taking five minutes to post the question to

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Cartinus
On 11/06/2012 01:09 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: The same is true for Microsoft and Yahoo!, in the end it boils down to something someone at those companies said in an email to someone else. Then ask them. Don't spam my mailbox, spam theirs. This endless prattling is getting nowhere. -- ---

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Thread Lester Caine
Cartinus wrote: The same is true for Microsoft and Yahoo!, in the end it boils down to something someone at those companies said in an email to someone else. Then ask them. Don't spam my mailbox, spam theirs. This endless prattling is getting nowhere. You can always stop listening ... I'm

Re: [talk-au] 4WD only tags

2012-11-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: When we first proposed (and started using) the 4wd_only tag, there was a lot of pushback from people who complained that it was not a verifiable tag. Track type had the same response. We were able to show them that there are

Re: [talk-au] 4WD only tags

2012-11-05 Thread David Bannon
OK Li, you ask and you shall receive ! Here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Davo#Draft_4x4_road_proposal is my very early draft. You and everyone else is welcome to get stuck into it, I am not thin skinned ! The OSM proposal page says to to be verbose, no one need tell me to be verbose

Re: [talk-au] 4WD only tags

2012-11-05 Thread David Bannon
Maybe the issue is that they cannot, in practice, sign every such bush track ? And I don't want them using my taxes to try ! Nope, I think its up to us to make those decisions. And, dare I say it, apply common sense. David On Tue, 2012-11-06 at 14:22 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: On Sun, Nov

[Talk-de] Bannmeilen, Wahlkreise, Wahlbezirke etc.

2012-11-05 Thread Jan Schejbal
Hallo Liste, gibt es schon einheitliche Tags, mit denen man Bannmeilen (also Gebiete um Verfassungsorgane wie den Bundestag, wo nicht demonstriert werden darf) eingetragen werden können? Auch Wahlkreise, Wahlbezirke etc. wären interessant, können sich aber von Wahl zu Wahl ändern. Sollen die

Re: [Talk-de] Bannmeilen, Wahlkreise, Wahlbezirke etc.

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 5. November 2012 09:53 schrieb Jan Schejbal jan.mailinglis...@googlemail.com: Hallo Liste, gibt es schon einheitliche Tags, mit denen man Bannmeilen (also Gebiete um Verfassungsorgane wie den Bundestag, wo nicht demonstriert werden darf) eingetragen werden können? Auch Wahlkreise,

Re: [Talk-de] Bannmeilen, Wahlkreise, Wahlbezirke etc.

2012-11-05 Thread Henning Scholland
Am 05.11.2012 09:53, schrieb Jan Schejbal: Hallo Liste, gibt es schon einheitliche Tags, mit denen man Bannmeilen (also Gebiete um Verfassungsorgane wie den Bundestag, wo nicht demonstriert werden darf) eingetragen werden können? Woher bekommt man denn die Daten, bzw. wie sind die definiert?

Re: [Talk-de] Bannmeilen, Wahlkreise, Wahlbezirke etc.

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 5. November 2012 12:27 schrieb Henning Scholland o...@aighes.de: Am 05.11.2012 09:53, schrieb Jan Schejbal: Hallo Liste, gibt es schon einheitliche Tags, mit denen man Bannmeilen (also Gebiete um Verfassungsorgane wie den Bundestag, wo nicht demonstriert werden darf) eingetragen werden

Re: [Talk-de] Bannmeilen, Wahlkreise, Wahlbezirke etc.

2012-11-05 Thread Robert S.
2012/11/5 Henning Scholland o...@aighes.de Am 05.11.2012 09:53, schrieb Jan Schejbal: Hallo Liste, gibt es schon einheitliche Tags, mit denen man Bannmeilen (also Gebiete um Verfassungsorgane wie den Bundestag, wo nicht demonstriert werden darf) eingetragen werden können? Woher bekommt

Re: [Talk-de] Verkaufsautomaten, Semantik von amenity=vending_machine und bicycle_rental

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Scheint ja niemanden zu interessieren hier, dabei hatte ich den Eindruck, dass z.B. die Hundekot-tüten-spender (man beachte das Wort Spender im Vergleich z.B. zu Verkaufsautomat) gerade eine deutsche Besonderheit sind, zumindest was das Vorkommen in OSM angeht. Wer würde eine Einrichtung

Re: [Talk-de] Bannmeilen, Wahlkreise, Wahlbezirke etc.

2012-11-05 Thread Henning Scholland
Am 05.11.2012 11:34, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 5. November 2012 09:53 schrieb Jan Schejbal jan.mailinglis...@googlemail.com: Hallo Liste, gibt es schon einheitliche Tags, mit denen man Bannmeilen (also Gebiete um Verfassungsorgane wie den Bundestag, wo nicht demonstriert werden darf)

Re: [Talk-de] Poster - war Best of OSM-Websiete

2012-11-05 Thread Alexander Lehner
On Sun, 4 Nov 2012, Manuel Reimer wrote: Alexander Lehner wrote: * Das Gebiet, das mich interessiert, ist schwarz umrandet. Es ist nur ein Viertel der gesamten Flaeche. Und gleichzeitig sieht man, dass eine 4-fache Vergroesserung v.a. der Schrift notwendig waere, um etwas zu erkennen.

Re: [Talk-de] Poster - war Best of OSM-Websiete

2012-11-05 Thread Manuel Reimer
Alexander Lehner lehner at edv-buero-lehner.de writes: Das ist mir schon klar. Aber das Aufsetzen eines Renderers ist viel Arbeit, und wenn Lars so was in der Art schon hat, wuerde ich mir das gerne ersparen und ihn anzapfen ;) Man verwendet einfach den Renderer, der die Kacheln für die

Re: [Talk-de] Bannmeilen, Wahlkreise, Wahlbezirke etc.

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 5. November 2012 13:27 schrieb Henning Scholland o...@aighes.de: Am 05.11.2012 11:34, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 5. November 2012 09:53 schrieb Jan Schejbal jan.mailinglis...@googlemail.com: Hallo Liste, gibt es schon einheitliche Tags, mit denen man Bannmeilen (also Gebiete um

Re: [Talk-de] Bannmeilen, Wahlkreise, Wahlbezirke etc.

2012-11-05 Thread Henning Scholland
Hallo, ich würde es unter proteced_area erfassen, weil eben auch die Bannmeile eine protected_area ist. Eine neue ID wäre wohl nötig, mir fällt so spontan aber keine Gruppe ein, unter der man es zusammenfassen könnte. Eingeschränkt ist ja dort die Versammlungsfreiheit. Nur wie verhindert

Re: [Talk-de] Poster - war Best of OSM-Websiete

2012-11-05 Thread Henning Scholland
Wie wäre es mit Maperitive? Henning ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Bannmeilen, Wahlkreise, Wahlbezirke etc.

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 5. November 2012 14:53 schrieb Henning Scholland o...@aighes.de: ich würde es unter proteced_area erfassen, weil eben auch die Bannmeile eine protected_area ist. Militärgebiete und Kernkraftwerke sind auch klassische protected_areas. Nicht alle Schutzzonen und -gebiete müssen zwangsläufig

Re: [Talk-de] Poster - war Best of OSM-Websiete

2012-11-05 Thread Alexander Lehner
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012, Henning Scholland wrote: Wie wäre es mit Maperitive? Naja, wie gesagt - das was Lars abgeliefert hat ist nahezu perfekt, eben auch schon ein bisschen 'stylisch' und nicht nur so hingerotzt ;) Mit Maperitive habe ich mich und auch ein Kollege hier vom Stammtisch schon

[Talk-de] Offene Plattform für Gastronomie / Lizenzfrage

2012-11-05 Thread Adrian Stabiszewski
Hi! Heute möchte ich euch ein neues Projekt von mir vorstellen, am dem ich mit Felix Ebert zusammen arbeite. Nach meinen bisherigen Projekten wie dem Amenity Editor, Relation Analyzer und dem QA Editor haben wir uns mal den Gastronomie-Sektor vorgenommen. ;) Dazu bauen wir gerade eine offene

Re: [Talk-de] Offene Plattform für Gastronomie / Lizenzfrage

2012-11-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. Auf die Schnelle fehlt mir der Lizenzhinweis an der Karte. Gruß Peter Am 05.11.2012 17:42, schrieb Adrian Stabiszewski: Hi! Heute möchte ich euch ein neues Projekt von mir vorstellen, am dem ich mit Felix Ebert zusammen arbeite. Nach meinen bisherigen Projekten wie dem Amenity Editor,

Re: [Talk-de] Offene Plattform für Gastronomie / Lizenzfrage

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 5. November 2012 17:42 schrieb Adrian Stabiszewski mynewslet...@nitegate.de: Wir stellen unsere Daten unter die ODBL und haben auch eine direkte Integration mit OSM eingebaut. super Ein Teil unserer Strategie ist es, dass die Besitzer der Locations die Plattform als einen guten Ersatz

Re: [Talk-de] Offene Plattform für Gastronomie / Lizenzfrage

2012-11-05 Thread Wolfgang Hinsch
Am Montag, den 05.11.2012, 18:03 +0100 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 5. November 2012 17:42 schrieb Adrian Stabiszewski mynewslet...@nitegate.de: Aus unserer Sicht hat ein Bild der Fassade einer Location nicht unbedingt die schöpferische Höhe um sich mit Copyrights zu beschäftigen.

Re: [Talk-de] Offene Plattform für Gastronomie / Lizenzfrage

2012-11-05 Thread Henning Scholland
Am 05.11.2012 18:03, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Ein Teil unserer Strategie ist es, dass die Besitzer der Locations die Plattform als einen guten Ersatz und/oder Ergänzung für ihre (veraltete, flash-basierte) Homepage erkennen und somit ihre Daten selber erfassen und aktualisieren. +1,

Re: [Talk-de] GONAM - war: Offene Plattform für Gastronomie / Lizenzfrage

2012-11-05 Thread Andreas Schmidt
Hallo Adrian, ich wohne weit weg von Heilbronn und habe kein Smartphone. Kann ich mich trotzdem beteiligen? Ich habe einige Gastronomiebetriebe bei OSM eingetragen, beispielsweise http://osm.org/go/0G5xZP1CY-- Wie kann ich dem Projekt ohne neuartigem mobilen Endgerät Daten zukommen lassen?

Re: [Talk-de] Offene Plattform für Gastronomie / Lizenzfrage

2012-11-05 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 05.11.2012 19:00, schrieb Henning Scholland: Am 05.11.2012 18:03, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Ein Teil unserer Strategie ist es, dass die Besitzer der Locations die Plattform als einen guten Ersatz und/oder Ergänzung für ihre (veraltete, flash-basierte) Homepage erkennen und somit ihre

Re: [Talk-de] Offene Plattform für Gastronomie / Lizenzfrage

2012-11-05 Thread Jimmy_K
Am 05.11.2012 19:00, schrieb Henning Scholland: Aus unserer Sicht hat ein Bild der Fassade einer Location nicht unbedingt die schöpferische Höhe um sich mit Copyrights zu beschäftigen. Wie ist eure Meinung? sehe ich anders, gerade wenn man die Bilder nicht automatisch aufnimmt (so wie

Re: [Talk-de] Offene Plattform für Gastronomie / Lizenzfrage

2012-11-05 Thread Felix Ebert
Jimmy: Ja, werden sie. Beispiel eines Updates von gonam.de: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/748276581/history Wenn es jemand selbst testen / mitwirken möchte: 1) Auf gonam.de registrieren 2) Nach dem Login im Dropdown rechts oben den Punkt Integration öffnen und den Account bei gonam mit

Re: [Talk-de] Offene Plattform für Gastronomie / Lizenzfrage

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 5. November 2012 19:00 schrieb Henning Scholland o...@aighes.de: Je nach Motiv solltet ihr euch auch mit dem Markenrecht auseinandersetzen. Bspw. wenn ein Markenzeichen das Hauptmotiv des Bildes ist. M.E. könnte es da in der Praxis ausreichen, wenn man eine Möglichkeit zur Verfügung stellt,

Re: [Talk-de] Bannmeilen, Wahlkreise, Wahlbezirke etc.

2012-11-05 Thread Jan Schejbal
Am 2012-11-05 12:52, schrieb Robert S.: Aus der Anlage zum Gesetz über befriedete Bezirke für Verfassungsorgane des Bundes http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/befbezg_2008/anlage_6.html ... und entsprechenden Gesetzen und ggf. Verordnungen auf Landesebene. Gruß Jan

Re: [Talk-de] Poster - war Best of OSM-Websiete

2012-11-05 Thread Lars Lingner
Hallo Alexander, vielen Dank für Dein Feedback! Ich antworte inline: On 04.11.2012 23:18, Alexander Lehner wrote: [...] * Ca 50 MB fuer eine DIN-A0 Seite fand ich gar nicht so tragisch. Ich wollte sie ausdrucken auf 4x4 DIN-A4 Seiten. Das war allerdings nicht so einfach, saemtliche

Re: [Talk-de] Poster - war Best of OSM-Websiete

2012-11-05 Thread Lars Lingner
On 05.11.2012 13:47, Manuel Reimer wrote: Alexander Lehner lehner at edv-buero-lehner.de writes: Das ist mir schon klar. Aber das Aufsetzen eines Renderers ist viel Arbeit, und wenn Lars so was in der Art schon hat, wuerde ich mir das gerne ersparen und ihn anzapfen ;) Man verwendet

Re: [Talk-de] Poster - war Best of OSM-Websiete

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 5. November 2012 22:19 schrieb Lars Lingner gislars+l...@googlemail.com: Die Schrift wurde skaliert und sollte bei korrektem Ausdruck (A0, 360dpi) gut lesbar sein. Wenn ich mir die Datei am Bildschirm bei 100% anschaue, ist die Schrift auch groß genug. Ich kann zwar an dem scale factor

Re: [Talk-de] Poster - war Best of OSM-Websiete

2012-11-05 Thread Alexander Lehner
Lars, Du bist der Wahnsinn! Ich werde jetzt mal eine Deiner Karten in Druck geben - gibts in ner Web-Druckerei fuer knapp 30 EUR. Ich 'inline' jetzt mal nicht mehr sondern fasse zusammen: * Thema DPI: Nichts auszusetzen, alles perfekt. Auf meinem gekacheltem Ausdruck ist auch jeder

Re: [Talk-de] Offene Plattform für Gastronomie / Lizenzfrage

2012-11-05 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hallo Adrian, Am 5. November 2012 17:42 schrieb Adrian Stabiszewski mynewslet...@nitegate.de: Hi! Heute möchte ich euch ein neues Projekt von mir vorstellen, am dem ich mit Felix Ebert zusammen arbeite. Nach meinen bisherigen Projekten wie dem Amenity Editor, Relation Analyzer und dem QA

[Talk-de] josm style css

2012-11-05 Thread Wolfgang Hinsch
Hallo, ich möchte eine Linie darstellen, indem ich ein Image angebe, dass dann entlang der Linie (wiederholt) gezeichnet wird. pattern-image: xxx.png; Das geht zwar auch, aber es wird immer rechts des Weges gezeichnet. Ich möchte aber mehrere nebeneinander darstellen. Im Moment hat immer der

Re: [Talk-de] Poster - war Best of OSM-Websiete

2012-11-05 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Am 06.11.2012 00:01, schrieb Alexander Lehner: Ich werde jetzt mal eine Deiner Karten in Druck geben - gibts in ner Web-Druckerei fuer knapp 30 EUR. Gibt es irgendwen, der diesen Workflow inkl. Druck und Postversand _in dieser Datenaufbereitungsqualität_ auf regulärer Basis anbietet? Also zu

Re: [Talk-de] Poster - war Best of OSM-Websiete

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 5. November 2012 22:47 schrieb Lars Lingner gislars+l...@googlemail.com: Den SVG-Export finde ich nicht gut genug zum Nachbearbeiten. Besonders stört das die einzelnen Objekte nur bis zu den sichtbaren Kanten enthalten sind. Entferne ich z.b. den Weg durch einen Park, habe ich eine weiße

Re: [Talk-de] Voradvents-Mappingparty in Schönberg/Mecklenburg

2012-11-05 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 28.10.2012 08:57, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: in Weiterleitung von Rainer N'abend zusammen, so, die Ende Oktober schon mal vorsichtig angekündigte Mappingparty in Schönberg/Mecklenburg ist nun organistorisch 'in trocknen Tüchern'. Auf der dazugehörenden wiki-Seite [1] sind alle

Re: [Talk-de] Poster - war Best of OSM-Websiete

2012-11-05 Thread Manuel Reimer
Lars Lingner gislars+list at googlemail.com writes: Den SVG-Export finde ich nicht gut genug zum Nachbearbeiten. Besonders stört das die einzelnen Objekte nur bis zu den sichtbaren Kanten enthalten sind. Entferne ich z.b. den Weg durch einen Park, habe ich eine weiße Linie bzw. Fläche im Park.

Re: [Talk-it] Come tagghiamo un fontanello ?

2012-11-05 Thread Fabri
Il 03/11/2012 23:45, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: Am 03/nov/2012 um 12:45 schrieb Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: Infatti, d'altronde su osm vengono taggate da anni le stazioni del car sharing come amenity?r_sharing e le stazioni del bikesharing come bicycle_rental, (tradotto come noleggio

Re: [Talk-it] R: Area sosta Nomadi

2012-11-05 Thread Maurizio Daniele
I francesi [1] mi pare di capire consiglino i tag: amenity=social_facility social_facility=group_home (ma mi pare che anche assisted_living possa andar bene) social_facility:for=migrant [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:social_facility -- Maurizio Daniele -

Re: [Talk-it] Come tagghiamo un fontanello ?

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/5 Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: in casi eclatanti, come quello di bicycle_rental, forse si...ma eviterei di creare 1000 nuovi tag, uno per i distributori gratuiti, uno per i distributori a pagamento, uno per quelli in plastica e uno per quelli in plastica riciclata... la differenza di un

Re: [Talk-it] R: Area sosta Nomadi

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/5 Maurizio Daniele maurizio.dani...@gmail.com: I francesi [1] mi pare di capire consiglino i tag: amenity=social_facility social_facility=group_home (ma mi pare che anche assisted_living possa andar bene) social_facility:for=migrant [1]

Re: [Talk-it] R: Area sosta Nomadi

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/5 Maurizio Daniele maurizio.dani...@gmail.com: social_facility=group_home (ma mi pare che anche assisted_living possa andar bene) assisted_living è un concetto per anziani, disabili e malati cronici che li permette di vivere relativamente indipendente in una sorta di condominio con

[Talk-it] R: R: Area sosta Nomadi

2012-11-05 Thread Alech OSM
#A: openstreetmap list - italiano #Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] R: Area sosta Nomadi # #2012/11/5 Maurizio Daniele maurizio.dani...@gmail.com: # I francesi [1] mi pare di capire consiglino i tag: # # amenity=social_facility # social_facility=group_home (ma mi pare che anche assisted_living #

Re: [Talk-it] R: R: Area sosta Nomadi

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/5 Alech OSM alech.hos...@gmail.com: Si, magari l'insieme è il tagging per i centri d'accoglienza/detenzione come a Lampedusa quindi secondo te un lager del genere (carcere/detenzione) è un servizio sociale per immigrati? Però basterebbe cambiare social_facility:for= Ma in cosa ?

Re: [Talk-it] Come tagghiamo un fontanello ?

2012-11-05 Thread Fabri
per me non è un problema eclatante, alla luce dei fatti che ho già citato. anche il bike sharing non è un rental quando non si deve pagare (ed il wiki non dice diversamente, anzi specifica esplicitamente che con il bicycle_rental si tratta di un servizio a pagamento). Comunque non è

Re: [Talk-it] Come tagghiamo un fontanello ?

2012-11-05 Thread Federico Cozzi
2012/11/5 Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: ecco un altro caso eclatante, trovare ora un altro tag per il bikesharing a pagamento e il bikesharing gratuito Per quello basta fee=yes/no Il bike sharing si tagga amenity=bicycle_rental (fa schifo...): Some cities have a bicycle rental service, based on

Re: [Talk-it] Come tagghiamo un fontanello ?

2012-11-05 Thread Maurizio Daniele
Il giorno 05 novembre 2012 14:41, Fabri erfab...@gmail.com ha scritto: ecco un altro caso eclatante, trovare ora un altro tag per il bikesharing a pagamento e il bikesharing gratuito e magari far diventare il bicycle_rental per i chioschi del noleggio... Non ho seguito tutta la discussione,

Re: [Talk-it] R: R: Area sosta Nomadi

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/5 Maurizio Daniele maurizio.dani...@gmail.com: Il giorno 05 novembre 2012 13:38, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: Se chiedi a loro ti dicono che sono nomadi, ma per me può anche andare bene una definizione differente, se ne trovi una meno degradante. il problema

Re: [Talk-it] Come tagghiamo un fontanello ?

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/5 Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: se riusciamo a stare in topic, qui c'è un distributore automatico che eroga acqua naturale gratis e acqua frizzante a pagamento. vuoi fare il pignolo e creare un nuovo tag per i dispenser gratuiti... lo vorrei fare in generale, perchè ci sono nel mondo dei

Re: [Talk-it] Come tagghiamo un fontanello ?

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/5 Maurizio Daniele maurizio.dani...@gmail.com: Non ho seguito tutta la discussione, ma qualcuno può fare un esempio di servizio bike sharing organizzato, strutturato e completamente gratuito? Puoi trovare un riassunto complessivo (?) qui:

Re: [Talk-it] Come tagghiamo un fontanello ?

2012-11-05 Thread Fabri
lo vorrei fare in generale, perchè ci sono nel mondo dei distributori gratuiti che quindi non sono vending_machines e quindi non si dovrebbero taggare con questo tag. proponi in tagging. Per il caso dei distributori dell'acqua si risolve con 2 nodi: uno vending_machine, uno drinking_water.

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