Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2015-08-21 03:13, Colin Smale wrote: While we are at it, what about specific symbols for train/metro stations per operator? That is also a great landmark for map users. I'd love to see that in the Transportation map. The difference with highway shields is that the Standard style is already

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] highway et limites administratives confondues

2015-08-22 Thread David Crochet
Bonjour Le 21/08/2015 12:14, sebastien.bugzi...@gmail.com a écrit : Pour la séparation des chemins je trouve que c'est mieux d'avoir des objets indépendants. Je suis sur le même principe, je sépare route et limite administrative et cours d'eau et occupation du terrain. même si OSMmement

Re: [Talk-it] mappare specie vegetali linkando wikipedia

2015-08-22 Thread Aury88
matteo ruffoni wrote Sto pensando a cosa fare a scuola di open ques'anno pensavo di mappare specie vegetali (e o animali l'orso!?!?!?) su openstreemap e/o progetti correlati linkando su wikipedia le schede di presentazione delle specie Avrei bisogno di qualche suggerimento? ciao

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.08.2015 1:47, Richard Mann napisał(a): I'd be tempted to leave motorways as blue - it's not such a critical problem as the invisible green trunk roads. Adding one For me the problem is the same - blue looks like a river and I don't know why at least some of UK-ers likes to see the

Re: [Talk-it] mappare specie vegetali linkando wikipedia

2015-08-22 Thread Aury88
voschix wrote - sono anche molto variabili col tempo e praticamente impossibili da aggiornare. Io sarei in favore di togliere quasi completamente crop come soia, frumento, granoturco da OSM. +1 se sono associati a coltivazioni variabili...secondo me bisognerebbe trovare un tag che

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Richard Mann
Purple motorways would be a problem in the Severn Estuary: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/51.5850/-2.6402 On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote: W dniu 22.08.2015 1:47, Richard Mann napisał(a): I'd be tempted to leave motorways as blue - it's not such a

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Lester Caine
On 20/08/15 02:16, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: The design goal seems straight forward, to discontinue green and blue for roads and move to red and reddish. For this to happen the decision was made to shift current primary, secondary and tertiary colours upwards so primary is now the colour

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.08.2015 12:14, Richard Mann napisał(a): Purple motorways would be a problem in the Severn Estuary: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/51.5850/-2.6402 [3] Sure, but we have more space for changing the boundaries - for example use more dashed lines or make them thinner on lower

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Lester Caine
On 22/08/15 11:10, Daniel Koć wrote: I'd be tempted to leave motorways as blue - it's not such a critical problem as the invisible green trunk roads. Adding one For me the problem is the same - blue looks like a river and I don't know why at least some of UK-ers likes to see the London area

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.08.2015 12:23, Lester Caine napisał(a): The main problem here is that OSM is used by a large part of the UK web services, and any change needs to be managed in such a manor that those services are not too badly affected. We do not have a list of every site actually using OSM over

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.08.2015 12:34, Lester Caine napisał(a): the motorway still stands out clearly against the water courses. The So we just disagree here: for me it's just barely spottable, which is far from clear difference, as you see it. That more styles are required is a simple fact. The

[Talk-it] Nuova versione stabile JOSM (8677)

2015-08-22 Thread Leonardo
Ciao, volevo informare gli utilizzatori di JOSM che è uscita una nuova versione stabile. I due più grandi cambiamenti sono il supporto completo a WTMS (Web Map Tile Service) e l'aggiunta del plugin OpenGL nella visualizzazione dei dati. Ovviamente ci sono ulteriori miglioramenti ai preset e

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rencontre parisienne OSM

2015-08-22 Thread Florian LAINEZ
I'm in. Le 21 août 2015 19:23, Donat ROBAUX dona...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Si vous êtes parisien, francilen ou que vous êtes de passage sur la capitale, nous vous proposons de nous rencontrer mardi 25 août 2015 à partir de 19h et ca se passe là (Restaurant Chez Papa)

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Tom MacWright
On the topic of whether we can or should notify everyone who may potentially be affected by this change so their opinions can be registered, you may enjoy this read: http://www.ftrain.com/wwic.html On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: On 20.08.2015 10:09,

[Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?

2015-08-22 Thread SK53
I'm just back from my annual trip to the Rutland Bird Fair. Each time I'm struck by the fact that Rutland still needs a lot of ground survey work for OSM. Oakham for instance has a prodigious number of new houses, the PRoW network is pretty incomplete, and there are lots of other details missing

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Max
On 2015년 08월 22일 19:23, Lester Caine wrote: The main problem here is that OSM is used by a large part of the UK web services, and any change needs to be managed in such a manor that those services are not too badly affected. We do not have a list of every site actually using OSM over google,

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 20.08.2015 10:09, Christoph Hormann wrote If you think a different styling than what is currently proposed would be better it would be best to show it. It's hardly fair to expect critics of the suggested new style to easily come up with alternatives. For one, the effort in question was

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-08-22 at 21:39 +0900, Max wrote: On 2015년 08월 22일 19:23, Lester Caine wrote: The main problem here is that OSM is used by a large part of the UK web services, and any change needs to be managed in such a manor that those services are not too badly affected. We do not have a

Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?

2015-08-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-08-22 at 13:23 +0100, SK53 wrote: I'm just back from my annual trip to the Rutland Bird Fair. Each time I'm struck by the fact that Rutland still needs a lot of ground survey work for OSM. Oakham for instance has a prodigious number of new houses, the PRoW network is pretty

[Talk-it] Avvertimento nuova proiezione EPSG su JOSM per ortofoto PCN2006-2012

2015-08-22 Thread Leonardo
Ciao, oggi provando la nuova versione stabile di JOSM, quando attivo il layer delle ortofoto PCN2006 o 2012, Josm mi avvisa con il seguente messaggio: Il livello PCN 2012 - Italia non supporta la nuova proiezione EPSG:3857. Le proiezioni supportate sono EPSG:4326. JOSM userà EPSG:4326 per

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.08.2015 14:21, Tom MacWright napisał(a): On the topic of whether we can or should notify everyone who may potentially be affected by this change so their opinions can be registered, you may enjoy this read: http://www.ftrain.com/wwic.html [2] Awesome! It's just about what I would

[Talk-us] Installing JOSM on Windows 10, no icons appear

2015-08-22 Thread Alan Bragg
I installed JAVA ok. I installed JOSM using the - josm-setup.exe https://josm.openstreetmap.de/download/windows/josm-setup.exe Installer for Windows ​I checked both ​ options to ​ install desktop icon and ​to ​ add to start menu The icons d ​o not appear. I have to start JOSM from the

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Lester Caine
On 22/08/15 15:08, Philip Barnes wrote: Why not keeping the UK style under openstreetmap.co.uk just like you will find the german style under openstreetmap.de ? It should be openstreetmap.org.uk. We are not a commercial organisation. .co.uk is registered, so the .uk one can be used going

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08/22/2015 02:12 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote: But more importantly, it discounts all those voices who favour the status quo. Personally, I think that the problems with the current style are relatively minor, and don't automatically justify a drastic change. But then again, the problems with

[OSM-talk] New styles for OSM.org [was: Re: The Proposed Great Colour Shift]

2015-08-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 23.08.2015 0:51, Paul Norman napisał(a): On 8/22/2015 4:20 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: Could anybody with technical background in the inner OSM workings tell us what is holding us back with introducing new styles (be it raster styles, additional/interactive layers or even vector tiles)?

[Talk-at] Einladung zum August-Stammtisch in Graz 2015-08-24

2015-08-22 Thread Stefan Tiran
Liebe OpenStreetMap-Interessierte in der Steiermark, wir laden herzlich ein zum nächsten OpenStreetMap-Stammtisch Graz am Montag, 24.8. - wieder zum regulären Termin am 4. Montag im Monat. Der Stammtisch findet um 18:00 im Brot Spiele City in Graz statt, die Tischreservierung lautet auf

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-22 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 22/08/2015, John Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: So, if you are looking for a route without steep grades, a former railway is a natural choice. Do people actually do this ? It sounds like a strawman argument to me. I do a fair bit of walking and cycling, and when planing a trip I look at

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Lester Caine
On 22/08/15 19:24, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: The main problem here is that OSM is used by a large part of the UK web services [...] I agree that this is a problem. But not for the reasons

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-22 Thread John Eldredge
Not precisely flat, but with very shallow grades, by definition. Regular railroad engines (as opposed to cog railway engines) can't climb steep slopes. So, if you are looking for a route without steep grades, a former railway is a natural choice. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/22/2015 4:20 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: Could anybody with technical background in the inner OSM workings tell us what is holding us back with introducing new styles (be it raster styles, additional/interactive layers or even vector tiles)? Only a lack of people willing to do the work.

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08/23/2015 12:51 AM, Paul Norman wrote: Could anybody with technical background in the inner OSM workings tell us what is holding us back with introducing new styles (be it raster styles, additional/interactive layers or even vector tiles)? Only a lack of people willing to do the

Re: [Talk-it] Avvertimento nuova proiezione EPSG su JOSM per ortofoto PCN2006-2012

2015-08-22 Thread Federico Cortese
2015-08-22 15:09 GMT+02:00 Leonardo kinetocor...@gmail.com: oggi provando la nuova versione stabile di JOSM, quando attivo il layer delle ortofoto PCN2006 o 2012, Josm mi avvisa con il seguente messaggio: Il livello PCN 2012 - Italia non supporta la nuova proiezione EPSG:3857. Le proiezioni

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08/22/2015 11:07 PM, Lester Caine wrote: What we need is a database that already has all the data and simply identify when some small elements of it cease to be current. In OSM we do that by deleting the small elements ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-22 Thread Lester Caine
On 22/08/15 21:32, Tim Waters wrote: I'd like to recommend OpenHistoricalMap.org (OHM) which will welcome all types of historical, disused and abandoned features. Please, go add every abandoned railway to OHM, and then together we can eventually get an accurate map of 1880s railway network

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-22 Thread mick
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 00:09:43 +0100 moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/08/2015, John Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: So, if you are looking for a route without steep grades, a former railway is a natural choice. Do people actually do this ? It sounds like a strawman

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-22 Thread Tim Waters
I'd like to recommend OpenHistoricalMap.org (OHM) which will welcome all types of historical, disused and abandoned features. Please, go add every abandoned railway to OHM, and then together we can eventually get an accurate map of 1880s railway network compared to a 1940's, compared to yesterdays

[OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month!

2015-08-22 Thread Jorieke Vyncke
Hello Belgian mappers, Here you can find the interview with the mapper of the month of august: Matthieu Gaillet! French: http://osm.be/fr/content/contributeur-du-mois-matthieu-gaillet Dutch: http://osm.be/nl/content/mapper-van-de-maand-matthieu-gaillet English:

[OSM-talk-fr] Nettoyer une imprécision propre au cadastre

2015-08-22 Thread Christian Rogel
Pour comprendre l’origine du problème, il faut savoir comment les noms de voie sont répertoriés par les 2 niveaux compétents : - les communes qui les créent, les utilisent pour leurs besoins et transmettent leurs décision à l'État - les services de l’État (DGFiP-Cadaste) qui les cartographient

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: The main problem here is that OSM is used by a large part of the UK web services [...] I agree that this is a problem. But not for the reasons you may think. The OSM default tileset is *not* meant to be used as a

[Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-22 Thread Michael Patrick
There is copious documentation on the USFS's definitions regarding LULC, including crosswalks to the various international definitions intended to support global statistics. The USFS's own definition of forest is fairly low bar (10%) and they manage not just for traditional forest production, but

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-22 Thread Kevin Kenny
On 08/19/2015 05:29 AM, Nathan Mixter wrote: In any discussions about land use and land cover, we should look at what organizations have done and how they have mapped ares. For instance, in USGS imagery in JOSM you can see how they render borders with just a dashed line and let the land cover