Re: [OSM-talk] Question about contributor terms and derived contributions

2011-06-16 Thread David Earl
2011/6/16 Andreas Perstingerandreas.perstin...@gmx.net: If there is just *one* single object near your way which isn't based on a ccbysa node/way, then you could always argue IMHO that you've measured the location of your way from this object (JOSM has a measurement tool with you can use for

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-09 Thread David Earl
On 09/06/2011 17:36, Ed Avis wrote: What stops more people using OSM? While I agree with your other points, even before you get to the data, I think the first reason is people don't know about it. And for most people, why would you not just use Google maps even if you did? David

Re: [Talk-GB] Roadside cycle-lanes vs. off-road cycle-paths

2011-04-15 Thread David Earl
On 15/04/2011 19:50, David Earl wrote: there's various lane indications such as cycleway=lane ... PS if you want examples, Cambridge and the surrounding area is particularly dense with all the variations of these all over the place. David

Re: [OSM-talk] UK, Cardiff and Edinburgh, change capital=yes to capital=4

2011-02-04 Thread David Earl
On 04/02/2011 10:46, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Sorry for writing in the international list, this is actually concerning the UK. I noticed that Cardiff and Edinburgh are tagged as capital=yes, which according to the wiki stands for national capital. I suggest to change this into capital=4 or are

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-21 Thread David Earl
On 21/01/2011 10:02, Kevin Peat wrote: So I should delete the various admin boundaries in the db then as they cannot be viewed on the ground? Well said. I absolutely agree admin boundaries have the same kind of status as postcodes. I think there is value in visualising postcodes, and while

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-21 Thread David Earl
On 21/01/2011 10:10, Tom Hughes wrote: On 21/01/11 10:02, Kevin Peat wrote: So I should delete the various admin boundaries in the db then as they cannot be viewed on the ground? They may not be viewable on the ground, but they are real in the sense that somebody has defined them by

Re: [Talk-GB] Street name disagreement - whose right or wrong?

2010-12-26 Thread David Earl
On Sunday, 26 December 2010, Richard r...@f2s.com wrote: My personal opinion is that Signed on the ground should always take precedence. +1 But you can always use alt_ name where there is another variant (or even completely different name). David

Re: [Talk-GB] Visualising speed limits

2010-11-01 Thread David Earl
On Monday, November 1, 2010, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 29/10/2010 22:22, thomas van der veen wrote: You might like to take note that nothing is implicit in OSM. There are no defaults as renderers or

Re: [OSM-talk] Let's prepare to Fork OSM to a CCBYSA 2.0continuation

2010-08-22 Thread David Earl
On 22/08/2010 14:13, John F. Eldredge wrote: My largest complaint is that, if you click yes, you not only are agreeing to the current new license, but you are also agreeing in advance to any future license changes, without being able to know what those new license terms will be. It is the

Re: [Talk-gb-midanglia] Anyone near Huntingdon who could do me a favour?

2010-08-10 Thread David Earl
On 10/08/2010 21:31, Richard Moss wrote: On Tue 10/08/10 16:36 , David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com sent: I'm doing a printed cycle map which covers, among other places, Huntingdon. This needs to include the old Houghton Road which has been re-opened for bikes and buses since I surveyed

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert requests in general

2010-08-05 Thread David Earl
On 05/08/2010 14:44, Tom Hughes wrote: If the OpenID provider supplies sufficient data (basically an email address and nickname) then they need do little more than click OK to accept the details and then accept the terms. Are you going to take the email address on trust? It is really very easy

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-31 Thread David Earl
On 31/07/2010 10:05, Ulf Lamping wrote: There are people who actively watch out their area what changes there. That's fine and valueable. But IMHO it's *their job* to make sense of the changes, not the mappers job. What a selfish attitude for a supposedly co-operative project. It may be

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-31 Thread David Earl
On 31/07/2010 10:50, John Smith wrote: On 31 July 2010 19:24, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: I don't understand your attitude at all: it hardly takes a moment to add a helpful comment, but many minutes or hours to make the change itself. It is hardly a burden. You gave a very

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-31 Thread David Earl
On 31/07/2010 11:52, Pieren wrote: Sourcing might be the only meaningfull comment I could see. This is the only important information that cannot be retrieved by software and is required to justify some actions e.g. features displacements. We should better replace 'comment' by 'source' in the

Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map slides

2010-07-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/07/2010 00:23, Dave F. wrote: On 25/07/2010 19:56, David Earl wrote: My two talks for State of the Map * Tag Central - a schema for OpenStreetMap * What I learned making a real map on real paper for real people and real money are now available online at http://www.frankieandshadow.com

[OSM-talk] Map Kibera article

2010-07-27 Thread David Earl
Design Observer, which I follow on and off for other reasons, has just published article about Kibera (which Mikel talked about most inspiringly at SotM). http://changeobserver.designobserver.com/entry.html?entry=14698 David ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map slides

2010-07-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/07/2010 13:07, Richard Mann wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:15 AM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: ... 'junction=approach' ... I _used_ it to suppress one way arrows. I ended up using oneway:reverse=block, to positively identify meaningful oneways. I was trying to

Re: [OSM-talk] syj: preview of a web site to store routes, need your opinions :)

2010-07-27 Thread David Earl
Hi, Something like this was a proposed Google Summer of Code project that didn't make it to the final cut, so I'm very pleased to see it. I got a server error trying to save on my first attempt. Retrying it worked. How do I get a URL of my route to share with someone? Presumably it is just

Re: [OSM-talk] syj: preview of a web site to store routes, need your opinions :)

2010-07-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/07/2010 17:18, arno wrote: Le mardi 27 juillet 2010, à 15:45:46 +0100, David a écrit : How do I get a URL of my route to share with someone? Presumably it is just the URL in the address bar after a save, but a give me a URL button or some such would be handy. I'm not sure a button is

[OSM-talk] State of the Map slides

2010-07-25 Thread David Earl
My two talks for State of the Map * Tag Central - a schema for OpenStreetMap * What I learned making a real map on real paper for real people and real money are now available online at http://www.frankieandshadow.com/sotm10/ David ___ talk mailing

[OSM-talk] Anyone else travelling to Girona by train from Paris?

2010-07-07 Thread David Earl
Is anyone else, by any chance, travelling to Girona on the Trenhotel overnight train from Paris? If so, do contact me (off list) and we could meet up on the train. I'm talking about the one leaving Paris around 20:30 on Thursday evening. David ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering: nature_reserve and national_park

2010-06-30 Thread David Earl
On 30/06/2010 02:48, Stephen Hope wrote: I'm a bit confused as to what exactly counts as a nature_preserve. nature_reserve not _preserve Take a look at this area http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.277213,152.952728z=18t=knmd=20100608 The land around the creek there is a council designated

[Talk-GB] Launch of Mapping for Change social enterprise

2010-06-29 Thread David Earl
This reached me via a roundabout route about an event on Thursday late afternoon. Is anyone from OSM involved? Is anyone going? Is someone in the London area able to go? Looks light up our street, so to speak. http://www.mappingforchange.org.uk and in particular:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging OSM objects with UUIDs

2010-06-07 Thread David Earl
On 07/06/2010 10:22, Frederik Ramm wrote: Then if you, as a mapper, find that the restaurant has moved across town you'll have to find out what to do with these UUIDs (or, more likely, you'll just leave them alone). Isn't that going to be true whatever mechanism is used? If the OSM object

Re: [Talk-GB] tracing lakes with Potlatch

2010-04-06 Thread David Earl
On 06/04/2010 17:51, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: A lot of stuff nowadays is done from aerial imagery, but they can still drop back to traditional surveying methods if required. It was a strange coincidence that I met an OS surveyor, theodolite in hand, doing just that when I was

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread David Earl
I thought it was very interesting to look at the OS and OSM overlaid on each other on the WMS link someone posted. 1. I was very impressed with how really accurate OSM is compared to OS where I know it has been done systematically 2. I was disappointed to see how out of date the OS data is -

[Talk-GB] London Underground roundel

2010-03-25 Thread David Earl
might be able to take that position also. Many thanks, David Earl ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] London Underground roundel

2010-03-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/03/2010 13:36, Thomas Wood wrote: Wow, good work. I suppose this will start a flood of localisation requests for other metro systems, this will probably be a good thing - it'll force our mapnik localisation to be made better! (maybe I could target it as a GSoC project for myself...) As

[OSM-talk] Motion sensors for navigation

2010-03-23 Thread David Earl
I thought this was an interesting little article: http://bit.ly/alE861 ( http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527524.500-motion-sensors-could-track-troops-when-gps-cuts-out.html ) I wonder whether they might be interested in offering us some units for testing? David

Re: [OSM-talk] Motion sensors for navigation

2010-03-23 Thread David Earl
On 23/03/2010 12:21, John Smith wrote: On 23 March 2010 21:56, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: I wonder whether they might be interested in offering us some units for testing? Using inertial navigation the accuracy deteriorates considerably over time.

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-21 Thread David Earl
On 21 Mar 2010, at 00:15, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: (I have managed to get audio-clip mapping working ever) (I assume there is a 'not' missing from that) Have you read: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/AudioMapping and

Re: [Talk-GB] Questions about highway classification

2010-03-09 Thread David Earl
On 09/03/2010 11:29, Nathan Edgars II wrote: I'm currently trying to form a sort of consensus as to the best way of defining the classes of highway in the US, and a bit of information about the UK would help. I know about the definitions used (trunk=primary route network, primary=A roads,

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network - filling the gaps

2010-03-08 Thread David Earl
Does anyone know what happens to ncn11 south of Stansted Mountfitchet? I mapped it through to there a few months ago and then went back to take it further but couldn't find it on the ground. I'd assumed it followed the Lea valley maybe via Bishops Stortford and Harlow, but the signs just

[Talk-gb-midanglia] Fwd: National Trust Press Release - Reach Bridge Brings Lodes Way a Step Closer

2010-03-05 Thread David Earl
Original Message Subject:National Trust Press Release - Reach Bridge Brings Lodes Way a Step Closer Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:17:18 - From: Cooper, Howard howard.coo...@nationaltrust.org.uk 5 March 2010 *Reach** Bridge** Brings Lodes Way a Step Closer* **

Re: [OSM-talk] Are Yahoo street maps legal? (as JOSM WMS layer via desktopwms)

2010-02-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/02/2010 09:31, Valent Turkovic wrote: I was hoping that Yahoo has their own maps and that we could use them. Whatever the legality, I can't see the point in making a map which is simply a copy of someone else's. Why go to the bother - you might as well just use the original. David

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-24 Thread David Earl
I'd like to say a few words on the home page and editor. 1. Home Page: while I think Steve's proposal addresses some of the criticisms of the way the home page functions, I don't think it takes a holistic view of the project. What someone coming to it will initially see is essentially a me too

Re: [OSM-talk] Using digital tablet for drawing maps

2010-01-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/01/2010 10:29, Igor Brejc wrote: Hi everyone, I'm thinking about buying a digital tablet and use it for drawing maps in JOSM/Potlatch/... Has anyone had any experience with digital tablets and GIS work (or even better - OSM work). I'm considering buying something cheap, like Wacom

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey response

2010-01-14 Thread David Earl
On 14/01/2010 18:27, Dave F. wrote: Andy, The taxpayers have already paid for it, many times over. I resent having to pay £7.50 for a map I've already financed to construct. As I've paid for it, I think it should be given to me free of charge. For a paper map, I think not. You've helped pay

Re: [OSM-talk] Burning Man

2009-12-18 Thread David Earl
On 18/12/2009 11:51, Mikel Maron wrote: beyond that, the layout retains importance as geographic context to photos, videos, memories. If you look at the flickr map, the background map depends on whether the photo was taken in 2008 or 2009.

Re: [OSM-talk] Burning Man

2009-12-18 Thread David Earl
On 18/12/2009 12:19, David Earl wrote: Actually if photos are geolocated like that, they also need a reference datum stored too - how else will the space tourists of the future locate their photos on the moon and on Mars? Taking this to extremes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6Ufmt

[Talk-GB] OSM mention on You and Yours

2009-12-07 Thread David Earl
There was an item on this lunchtime's You and Yours on BBC Radio 4 (a consumer magazine programme) about mapping, Ordnance Survey and satnav, which also mentioned OSM. It's 35:30 minutes in at http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00p4l7x David

Re: [OSM-talk] How to mark a footpath that goes under a bridge

2009-11-28 Thread David Earl
On 28/11/2009 14:01, John F. Eldredge wrote: So, ground level is level 0? I had wondered about that, as the scanty documentation that I have seen didn't make that point clear. well, it is the *default* level and the levels are relative. As with all things OSM, as there is no rigid spec,

Re: [OSM-talk] Two questions about routing

2009-11-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/11/2009 18:55, Steve Bennett wrote: 2) I'm using the CloudMade site to test routing and fix bike paths in my local area accordingly. But they only update their data once a week or so. Is there a better way? What would I have to download and install to be able to have a shorter turnaround

Re: [OSM-talk] Apostrophist corrects punctuation on street signs

2009-11-11 Thread David Earl
On 11/11/2009 14:31, Ed Avis wrote: Frustrated by living in St Johns Close, in Turnbridge Wells, Mr Gatward decided to buy a can of black paint and a craft brush before correcting the name to St John's Close. I've come across any number of streets where the apostrophe is missing on one

Re: [OSM-talk] Apostrophist corrects punctuation on street signs

2009-11-11 Thread David Earl
On 11/11/2009 16:17, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: and other punctuation (eg St. to St as an abbreviation for Saint). St. is wrong anyway - strictly speaking there should only be a period after an abbreviation where letters are omitted, hence St. for st...reet St for

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building around the Angel area of London?

2009-11-11 Thread David Earl
On 11/11/2009 10:39, Richard Mann wrote: I found this a useful summary of the UK copyright position: http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fair_use That's about the general concept. This was the reason for my comment that our use on a street map would be akin to news reporting

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building around the Angel areaof London?

2009-11-11 Thread David Earl
to show their store locations on the map were we to ask them, as essentially free advertising, and I do hope TfL might be able to take that position also. Many thanks, David Earl ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building around theAngel areaof London?

2009-11-11 Thread David Earl
On 11/11/2009 12:40, Peter Miller wrote: I do also agree with Richard in that there are numerous possible map styles emphasising many different sorts of features in a lot of different languages Sure, but there are some that are so iconic they are the expectation. And as others said and

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building around the Angel area of London?

2009-11-11 Thread David Earl
On 11/11/2009 12:44, Peter Childs wrote: OSM also has the advantage that you can render your map your self, If you want Yellow Primary Roads, London Transport Symbol for train stations etc etc then go ahead, If you infridge copy right on your own rendering its not in the OSM data so OSM can't

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building around the Angel area of London?

2009-11-10 Thread David Earl
it on, and take it off if they complain. Richard On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:22 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com mailto:da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: On 10/11/2009 13:21, Peter Miller wrote: On 10 Nov 2009, at 12:41, Ed Avis wrote: Are we legally permitted

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building around the Angel area of London?

2009-11-10 Thread David Earl
On 10/11/2009 15:02, Richard Mann wrote: But simply reproducing their name or logo to represent them is just free advertising, and they'd be laughed out of court. Rubbish. It's their property and they can decide who uses it and where. They may well not have any objection, but if they did,

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building around the Angel area of London?

2009-11-10 Thread David Earl
On 10/11/2009 19:35, Peter Miller wrote: On 10 Nov 2009, at 19:05, Tom Chance wrote: We get permission from TfL, or we seek costly legal advice. I agree that the cautious approach would be to ask. I was wondering if we could use the argument that it is in the background (as is a photo of

Re: [Talk-gb-midanglia] Cambridgeshire Guided Bus

2009-11-09 Thread David Earl
On 09/11/2009 15:15, David Earl wrote: Their page doesn't call it a bridleway either Actually, following the link in the corner to http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/transport/thebusway/community/rights/ it then says: New bridleway and cycleway: To make sure people can still enjoy this route

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread David Earl
On 02/11/2009 13:11, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Domingo, 1 de Noviembre de 2009, Anthony escribió: Yes, a collection of aerial images is a database. But a single aerial image is probably not. Heck, a single aerial image *is* a database of pixels :-D By analogy then, so is this email a

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Thread David Earl
On 01/11/2009 14:16, Jason Cunningham wrote: I asked early on in the year for way to add a marker to a map when I wanted to give a link to a map that that pointed out a location. ... I suppose I am hoping that in the future there is some way to replicate the easy method multimap provides.

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Thread David Earl
On 01/11/2009 15:54, Tom Chance wrote: Just to say that I do think the Export tab route is excessively complicated, and that it's a shame the short links don't carry across markers. +1. If only I had the time, I'd do something like this: present a map to which you can freely add multiple

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-30 Thread David Earl
On 30/10/2009 14:38, Kirill Bestoujev wrote: Oh my God It is terrible!!! We all gona die! What is the problem? Did Google just once start a trial agains anyone using GM images in violation of ToS? Just once? No. Why? They really don't care. Look at wikimapia. Don't the

Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England

2009-10-15 Thread David Earl
On 15/10/2009 11:02, Ed Avis wrote: Ed Loach e...@... writes: As only Sealand recognise Sealand and no UN member does (from the wiki article you quote), I can't see the claim that the sea boundary of England is wrong can be justified. Who would have expected an edit war in the English

Re: [Talk-gb-midanglia] Wisbech

2009-10-14 Thread David Earl
On 14/10/2009 13:40, David Earl wrote: As I mentioned, I'd like to promote a Wisbech mapping party. There's a sign up page now: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fenland/WisbechMappingParty2009-11 David ___ Talk-gb-midanglia mailing list Talk-gb

[Talk-GB] Wisbech mapping party

2009-10-14 Thread David Earl
I'm planning a mapping party for the weekend of 14/15 November to map Wisbech, Cambridgeshire and environs. Anyone fancy a weekend in the Fens? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fenland/WisbechMappingParty2009-11 David ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Instead of voting

2009-10-09 Thread David Earl
On 09/10/2009 15:45, Tobias Knerr wrote: We already have too many computer people who get carried away by thought experiements (yes but if the spot where the road and railway intersect also happens to be a station and have a traffic light and a river flowing underneath, what are you going

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey 7th series available

2009-10-07 Thread David Earl
NPE maps have always had major alignment problems which have seemed to me to be worse in the eastern side of the country. There's also a new problem, but I don't know whether it is in the JOSM WMS plugin, the tile server or what. Consider three JOSM screenshots:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging schema

2009-10-06 Thread David Earl
On 06/10/2009 13:35, James Livingston wrote: I can see things getting ickier than they are now if you can just go around adding new shop= values, without having some prior discussion to what it means. If I saw a suggested option in an editor, I would generally assume that there is some

Re: [OSM-talk] Landuse areas etc. abutting highways

2009-10-06 Thread David Earl
On 06/10/2009 14:09, John Smith wrote: Some people are marking the landuse hard up against roads, but this isn't correct since the property boundary never touches any roads, at least none that I'm aware of, and foot paths etc use the same land use area as roads. I keep adjacent areas

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging schema

2009-10-05 Thread David Earl
On 05/10/2009 00:12, Egil Hjelmeland wrote: As a mapper, I want a much more structured, well defined tagging scheme. Steve started a discussion on the dev list in which I proposed just such a scheme/schema. Since there's been several discussions on talk healding in this direction, I'll send it

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging schema

2009-10-05 Thread David Earl
On 05/10/2009 11:43, Lester Caine wrote: Rather than all these separate elements, tag values should form part of the tagkey object, and descriptions can be added at any level. I need to find the link to a good example, but tag name='barrier' type='value' relevantto='node' tagvalue

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread David Earl
The problem is as follows: You see an interpolation 25a to 25c. How do you know that this means 25a, 25b, 25c? You know by removing the number and then starting with the a go through code points adding one until you reach c. Easy. This will work for all alphabets where that are layed out in

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread David Earl
On 02/10/2009 12:42, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/10/2 Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org: No. The interpolation way has less nodes in it than houses. Thats the whole point of having an interpolation way. Otherwise you'd just use those nodes and tag them with the right house numbers and you are

Re: [OSM-talk] Clarifying and representing road markings at junctions

2009-10-01 Thread David Earl
On 30/09/2009 22:05, Roy Wallace wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 7:35 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: On 30/09/2009 10:20, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: you could model it like this (see attached, colours are just indicating the ways, not highway-classes) Yes, that's also what

Re: [OSM-talk] Clarifying and representing road markings at junctions

2009-10-01 Thread David Earl
On 01/10/2009 11:47, Roy Wallace wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:05 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: It shows visually which the main road is at the junction and is a good model of the physical arrangement. IMHO it does not *explicitly* show the continuations of roads

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-01 Thread David Earl
On 01/10/2009 13:51, Russ Nelson wrote: Frederik Ramm writes: Not at all. Russ has called for dictatorial leadership which the project should follow even if there were absolutely nonsensical decisions. WHOA!! I never said that. What I said was that if we can't choose, as a community,

Re: [OSM-talk] Clarifying and representing road markings at junctions

2009-09-30 Thread David Earl
On 30/09/2009 10:20, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: you could model it like this (see attached, colours are just indicating the ways, not highway-classes) Yes, that's also what I typically do, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.596517lon=0.376144zoom=18layers=B000FTF Even though the kerb

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-30 Thread David Earl
On 30/09/2009 09:51, James Livingston wrote: On 28/09/2009, at 2:22 PM, Marcus Wolschon wrote: 25A-25C should work with addr:interpolation=alphabetic . However not all software that supports interpolation at all, supports this interpolation-mode yet. 25-25A would not. I'm not sure you how

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-28 Thread David Earl
On 28 Sep 2009, at 05:22, Marcus Wolschon mar...@wolschon.biz wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:33 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: I'm experimenting with adding house numbering for the first time (and using the address interpolation plugin). One common case I came across

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Thread David Earl
On 28/09/2009 08:53, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Incidentally, as well as the possible OS contamination, the Council will itself have database and content copyright in the data, so explicit permission would be needed from them to incorporate and release it under our CCBySA license. In obtaining

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-28 Thread David Earl
What plugin are you talking about? The AdvancedAddressDB of Traveling Salesman? Sorry, the AddrInterpolation plugin in JOSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/AddrInterpolation which doesn't allow you to put just a number in the starting # field when numbering scheme is set to

[OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-27 Thread David Earl
I'm experimenting with adding house numbering for the first time (and using the address interpolation plugin). One common case I came across was 25, 25A, 25B, ... I wonder whether addr:interpolation=alphabetic could include this case (in essence when the first node has no letter, the second

[Talk-GB] NAPTAN pay_scale_area

2009-09-27 Thread David Earl
I notice that we now have this area name = Cambridge public_transport = pay_scale_area ref = CAMBDGE source = naptan_import which looks like it delimits the area within which the Cambridge megarider bus tickets are valid (Pay scale area is not a term in public parlance). Problem is,

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/09/2009 15:00, k...@vielevisels wrote: Hi, many people tag ways, which are incomplete and show just the beginning, with the note (or FIXME) = stub. In the wiki, the tag noexit=no is intended for this. I think it would be helpful have one way to tag this and to render both (dead-ends

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/09/2009 18:20, Dave F. wrote: David Earl wrote: On 26/09/2009 15:00, k...@vielevisels wrote: Hi, many people tag ways, which are incomplete and show just the beginning, with the note (or FIXME) = stub. In the wiki, the tag noexit=no is intended for this. I think it would

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/09/2009 19:09, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: But as I said, I'd much rather have a specific, rendered, more to do here tag for stubs that is removed when the way is extended. not a good idea for the normal map. have you ever seen any other commercial map with hey look this map is

[Talk-GB] Vote for TalkTalk's OSM-using hero

2009-09-26 Thread David Earl
As those of you paying attention will know, CycleStreets (www.cyclestreets.net) is a routing and photo-map application for cyclists based on OSM data. It's primary developer is Simon Nuttall and he has been nominated for TalkTalk's digital hero award, which offers a much needed £5K to help

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/09/2009 14:30, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way, and its associated copyright, would belong to the Local Council. When they make a legal order to record a public right of

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123 facts

2009-09-19 Thread David Earl
On 19/09/2009 07:30, Frederik Ramm wrote: I have reverted the remaining edits so that, to my knowledge as per now, not as single object should be in the state last modified by liam123. Thank you very much for doing this. David ___ Talk-GB mailing

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread David Earl
On 18/09/2009 11:17, Lennard wrote: And about removal/deactivation/hiding of Potlatch's live editing mode: yes, please. We've had a case in Belgium as well, recently, of someone dicking about in live mode, apparently unaware of the destructive nature of their actions. +1 But I don't think

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Mapper

2009-09-18 Thread David Earl
Well done, and congratulations! I saw the feed come through earlier on this morning and have been working through reviewing the changes in my area. In my so far futile attempts to reload the namefinder index, I've found the same thing - the time to reload seems to be exponential with the size.

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread David Earl
On 18/09/2009 12:13, Dave Stubbs wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Brian Prangle bpran...@googlemail.com wrote: I may be being a simpleton but can't we just disable write privileges for this user to the database? Then he can continue editing but it all has no effect If somebody

[Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-17 Thread David Earl
Two changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2510163 reverted cleanly http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2510485 failed to revert 410 gone - I suspect there was a node/way changed in the second changeset that was also in the first. The automatic reversion is

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-17 Thread David Earl
On 17/09/2009 14:09, Peter Miller wrote: Who would join a 'talk-counter_vandalism' list or support its creation? Yes. But can we call it something less judgemental: not all incorrect changes are vandalism, and people seeing their account names on such a list would be most depressing.

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-17 Thread David Earl
On 17/09/2009 14:30, Peter Miller wrote: Possibly a different name would be clearer talk-Counter_vandalism_tools, but that is getting a bit long. Any other ideas or feedback? talk-reversion-tools? ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] corrections by Ropino

2009-09-15 Thread David Earl
On 15/09/2009 16:47, Jonas Svensson wrote: Besides check all those edits, what would be the best way to see if there are any changes in my area by that person? I have found one bad edit so far. Set up a RSS feed from ITO's OSM Mapper at http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map That way you

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123

2009-09-15 Thread David Earl
On 15/09/2009 00:59, Lennard wrote: David Earl wrote: Unfortunately, I can't use the revert script to rever this. Though the edits are all his, the same way appears twice in the same changeset and this seems to upset Frederick's script. I don't know whether it is a bug or not. He

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123

2009-09-14 Thread David Earl
On 14/09/2009 22:30, Someoneelse wrote: I notice that liam123's been editing in SE London again tonight. Seems to consist of lots of oneway=yes changed to oneway=no, among others. Unfortunately, I can't use the revert script to rever this. Though the edits are all his, the same way appears

Re: [Talk-GB] Just got this big apology from Gothy about the dodgy edit in Stratford

2009-09-13 Thread David Earl
I have now reverted this changeset - it went through cleanly and easily. BTW for reverts I do I'm using a different user id from my usual - GuardianAngel is me with a different hat on. I wonder whether you could contact him again Peter and find out what he did that led him to believe he wasn't

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map cemetery ?

2009-09-10 Thread David Earl
On 10/09/2009 09:44, Roy Wallace wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:02 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: On 10/09/2009 01:11, Roy Wallace wrote: But I would support any proposal that merges these and includes complementary tags to explicitly specify differences as necessary

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map cemetery ?

2009-09-10 Thread David Earl
On 10/09/2009 10:02, David Earl wrote: On 10/09/2009 09:44, Roy Wallace wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:02 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: On 10/09/2009 01:11, Roy Wallace wrote: But I would support any proposal that merges these and includes complementary tags

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?

2009-09-09 Thread David Earl
On 09/09/2009 00:10, Richard Fairhurst wrote: David Earl wrote: Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets anyway? Lots of people still prefer it. I've not seen any evidence of people mistakenly selecting

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map cemetery ?

2009-09-09 Thread David Earl
On 09/09/2009 21:43, Valent Turkovic wrote: Is grave_yard tag used? I don't see it in JOSM. Why is the wiki so confusing for this simple thing to map. I think the original distinction was that a graveyard is the burial ground around a church, while a cemetery is a separate pice of land set

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Street View copyright question

2009-09-09 Thread David Earl
On 09/09/2009 12:07, Pieren wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Tom Hughest...@compton.nu wrote: Because (in the EU) Database Right kicks in and prohibits substantial extraction. Tom If someone starts to copy the photos themselves, yes you are right. But here, we speak about reading a

Re: [OSM-talk] source=(survey, yahoo, gps...)

2009-09-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/09/2009 13:06, Liz wrote: On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote: I'm not going to waste my time updating a source tag on every node, way or relation that I touch. However I'm happy to add ti to the changeset where it belongs. It's actually quite easy in JOSM you mass select

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