[OSM-talk] landuse=port_terminal etc. to landuse=port changes

2014-03-25 Thread SomeoneElse
(just something that I noticed while checking for local overlapping changesets) http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20990644 seems to have made a number of "tag merges" to "landuse=port". Apologies for the noise if it's already been discussed and agreed on an import list somewhere; just me

Re: [OSM-talk] Newbie alert

2014-03-13 Thread SomeoneElse
Bryce Nesbitt wrote: The "entry level editor" could reasonably limit new users to "entry level edits". Messing with anything with a relation is not a first edit kind of activity. What if the entry level editor said "hey, this is too complex, map something else and gain some experience and come

Re: [OSM-talk] Newbie alert

2014-03-12 Thread SomeoneElse
Colin Smale wrote: I don't wish to cause offence... Perhaps someone more tactful than me would consider contacting the user to advise caution? It looks like someone's already fixing the broken relations; I'd have thought that it's probably best that they do it as they'll be familiar with

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-11 Thread SomeoneElse
Dave F. wrote: Could you give some visual examples, maybe temporarily creating them in OSM (& deleting them afterwards) ... or on the dev server: http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/ Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https:

Re: [OSM-talk] new mailing list request - OSM outdoor/natural phenomena mapping

2014-03-05 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Z. wrote: Hi, I want to propose a new mailing list. Currently we have serious gaps in modeling vegetation zones, climatic zones, geology, oceanography and most other natural phenomena. Also a mailing list for outdoor enthusiasts and outdoor sports does not seem to exist. The "tagging

Re: [OSM-talk] View data

2014-03-04 Thread SomeoneElse
Morten Wang wrote: Hi, One of my current research projects[1] looks at OpenStreetMap and we're interested in knowing the number of views for different regions in North America (with North America as defined by Geofabrik[2]). and (apologies for stating what might be obvious but) it's difficul

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automated edit: remove railway=* or highway=* tag on relations tagged type=route

2014-01-14 Thread SomeoneElse
Guillaume Rischard wrote: It looks like most of these are bad data, and I will attempt to fix them all manually. That definitely looks like the best approach... Others make no sense whatsoever: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/238402296 (part of http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/32139

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-08 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/12/2013 00:52, John Firebaugh wrote: This past weekend, the OpenStreetMap.org front page launched with a new design. First of all - thanks for posting here. As I mentioned in the other thread it's always helpful to put a human face on some of the design decisions to try and understand

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-04 Thread SomeoneElse
Christoph Hormann wrote: ... In particular from my perspective (and others have made statements in a similar direction) the claim of an overall better usability is somewhat doubtful at this point. My impression (already expressed on this list) is that the new design is significantly less usab

Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome box on the new map page

2013-12-02 Thread SomeoneElse
JB wrote: Besides, now that I'm connected, but do not have a picture to illustrate myself in my profile, where/how do I click on « modify »? It certainly doesn't look like that for me.  Perhaps you need to see if someone's already logged a

Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome box on the new map page

2013-12-01 Thread SomeoneElse
ble to use the same cues that you'd use on normal websites to determine functionality. Taking just one example, if I go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ there's clear and consistent feedback to the user about what every item on that page does. If I instead go to http://www.openstreetmap.o

Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome box on the new map page

2013-11-30 Thread SomeoneElse
Simon Poole wrote: As to general complaints, I don't see any way forward without making somebody unhappy Understood (hence my Henry Ford quote) but on that general point - can anyone explain in what way the new site is better than the old one? I'd love to know what I can do with the new si

Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome box on the new map page

2013-11-30 Thread SomeoneElse
Simon Poole wrote: I really fail to see what you believe was better about the old layout, maybe if you could give an example? Just 5 examples to start with: 1) On the main osm.org site, the extra space taken up by the bar at the top and the huge "welcome" area at the left distracts from the

Re: [OSM-talk] Nearby Users

2013-11-19 Thread SomeoneElse
Frederik Ramm wrote: I looked ad my personal "nearby users" list today for the first time in a while and found only 2 people with edits in the last year, 16 people with no edits whatsoever, and the rest between "over one year ago" and "over five years ago". (for the benefit of the tiny prop

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql multipolygon parsing

2013-09-22 Thread SomeoneElse
On 22/09/2013 10:03, yvecai wrote: Of course, it should be accompagnied with a large campaign of multi-polygons fix. ... and a patch to any editors that don't create multipolygons in this format. For example, here are three attempts at multipolygons in iD, P2 and JOSM: http://api06.dev.o

Re: [OSM-talk] iD and P2 new user errors - part 2

2013-09-14 Thread SomeoneElse
malenki wrote: Do you also look for relations? By chance I found a MP relation with one outer not closed way - nothing more. Before the last edit with iD it had 5 outer and 33 inner ways: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1417720/history Yes - a while back I noticed one example of

[OSM-talk] iD and P2 new user errors - part 2

2013-09-13 Thread SomeoneElse
Previously (in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-August/067936.html) I had a quick count-up of new user errors in bits of GB that I'm familiar with for the month before iD became the default editor for most browsers. I've done the same again (for the period 20/8/2013 to 13/9

Re: [OSM-talk] Living with 'improvements'

2013-09-02 Thread SomeoneElse
Lester Caine wrote: If the fix for this is to manually apply the national speed limit to every road, then OK, it's the first time anybody has suggested a fix and I'm willing to give it a try ... (I'll assume that's not an entirely serious suggestion - the last time someone tried it it was v

[OSM-talk] Tracking user activity in an area (was: Making iD the default editor on osm.org - some numbers)

2013-08-26 Thread SomeoneElse
Steve Bennett wrote: Hi, Just wondering what tools you use to "keep an eye on" that area? I'd love to have a better idea of what other editors are doing in my area. For new users, it's similar to Martin, although via the map rather than the RSS feed. For me it's essentially: http://result

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org - some numbers

2013-08-24 Thread SomeoneElse
John Firebaugh wrote: During the last month in this area: P2 iD JOSM Other (Wheelmap / Go Map! / POI+) Made no newbie errors34 17 3 3 Made at least one newbie error 40 16 1 3 Made more serious errors 5 0 1 0 So 45 of 79 new con

Re: [OSM-talk] Route calculation on tracks Was: Dirt Roads in Mapnik, default render in OSM

2013-08-24 Thread SomeoneElse
Florian Lohoff wrote: ANY road should be used for routing - track/service do have an implicit access=destination and should not used for "through" traffic but have no route restrictions otherwise That may be the case where you live but I wouldn't make that assumption worldwide. I certainly w

Re: [OSM-talk] Dirt Roads in Mapnik, default render in OSM

2013-08-23 Thread SomeoneElse
Darren Biggs wrote: Can someone give me a place on the Map where I can see this road shown, which I can repeat? Specifically the Unsurfaced road dashed lines. I see many tracks, but not one Unsurfaced road Secondary12 Secondary road Unsurfaced Unsurfaced road Track Track Byway B

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org - some numbers

2013-08-20 Thread SomeoneElse
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, it has been proposed to make the newly released iD v1.1 the default editor on openstreetmap.org, meaning that if someone doesn't explicitly chose an editor they will open iD instead of Potlatch. In an attempt to put some numbers to to the "errors made by new mapp

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-16 Thread SomeoneElse
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I don't see PL1 since months in the edit tab, thought it was retired because of 64bit node IDs. If there is a trick to still get it to use I'd be interested because of the deleted ways function. Get to wherever you want to edit and then: http://www.openstreetmap

Re: [OSM-talk] Www.openstreetmap.org Down?

2013-08-15 Thread SomeoneElse
John F. Eldredge wrote: IP address 192.168.1.1 is a local, unroutable address, meaning that it would have to be on your local LAN for you to connect to it. (for the benefit of those who haven't had the "pleasure" of dealing with DNS and naming on Windows) That's the add

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare superusers encouraged to directly edit OSM

2013-08-02 Thread SomeoneElse
On 02/08/2013 18:05, Stefan Keller wrote: * User puts a marker on a Google map? Then it's not usable. Do you use foursquare? They switched to osm. FWIW, the FourSquare application on at least one phone* displays locations in the native "Maps" application, data from which is most certainly n

Re: [OSM-talk] Todo List

2013-07-09 Thread SomeoneElse
Lester Caine wrote: The problem is that directions given for major junctions tend to be 'straight on' where the ACTUAL move is to take the slip road. FWIW, this isn't a problem I've seen (either on eTrex or Nuvi) with Garmins using OSM data. I suspect it's down to the router rather than a

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: A short online questionnaire on the OSM users .....(It takes 48 seconds)

2013-06-28 Thread SomeoneElse
jamal jokar wrote: Hers is more info about my project http://www.geog.uni-heidelberg.de/forschung/gis_agentbasedmodeling.html The bit that caught my eye was "The project is intended to measure and monitor several data quality aspects over the OSM lifetime.". How are you planning to assess

Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

2013-05-14 Thread SomeoneElse
Dave F. wrote: On 08/05/2013 14:37, Douglas Musaazi wrote: Great work!! let's go ahead and use it. I'd love to but it's very sluggish while dragging in latest FF, the walk-through help keeps hanging & the pop-ups appear over the area I want to edit One "advantage" of it being slower than P

Re: [OSM-talk] duplicated ways (same geometry and tags)

2013-05-13 Thread SomeoneElse
didier2020 wrote: H I have not analyzed the causes of these duplicates. I delete a lot of ways and node everywhere on the planet, also this explanation seemed necessary on this list Would it be possible to link to the relevant changesets? Cheers, Andy __

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-13 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/04/2013 23:08, Johan C wrote: The question is: how do we unlock this giant community potential? Leaving aside the registered users who've never edited, the majority of editors have made very few edits. It's not that uncommon to see people make edits with a 5 year gap in between. At t

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread SomeoneElse
Clifford Snow wrote: One of the features I'd really like to see is a way to send mapping party announcements to people in the mapping party area. Of course we'd need a way for people to opt out, but inviting people out to become part of a community is a good way to engage more users. Lackin

Re: [OSM-talk] Explanation of crowd sourcing?

2013-04-05 Thread SomeoneElse
Dave F. wrote: I wanted to send a link to people who'd never heard of OSM that explains the basics of what it is & entails, but I couldn't find a page with a clear, simple explanation of what crowd sourcing is & that they can contribute . Perhaps this: http://en.flossmanuals.net/openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] No Jerusalem on OSM maps?

2013-02-25 Thread SomeoneElse
Toby Murray wrote: Also, see the note=* tag on this node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/29090735 And see this previous list thread: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2011-October/060323.html ___ talk mailing list talk@openst

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert ?

2013-02-05 Thread SomeoneElse
Vincent Pottier wrote: Oups ! Sorry ! http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10423011 Especialy http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/39199782 that as been flatten. I notice that this hasn't been reverted yet, but I also notice that it does appear to be a legitimate edit by a first-ti

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] uMap Project: OSM everywhere

2013-01-21 Thread SomeoneElse
Michael Kugelmann wrote: This email for introducing the "uMap project". TL;DR: http://umap.fluv.io/ (demo site). the name umap is not very well chosen: there is already a project called uMap which exists since long time! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Speedpilgrim I don't see "uma

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping ways

2013-01-10 Thread SomeoneElse
Christian Quest wrote: I that case nodes are not shared by the ways, but are duplicate (same lat/lon) and as Clay mentionned, this will ring some other alarm.. I would move one of them a little bit to avoid it. I can understand why you're saying this, but isn't education of remote "fixers" tha

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping ways

2013-01-09 Thread SomeoneElse
Rob Nickerson wrote: Am I doing something wrong? Is the fixer tool flagging something up incorrectly? In cases such as this I normally say to the other mapper that I was last there on so-and-so date, and when I was last there it looked like X; and ask whether perhaps he's been there more re

Re: [OSM-talk] View tag details

2012-12-16 Thread SomeoneElse
Philip Barnes wrote: On the main osm map, under the edit tab, until recently there used to be a 3rd option. It's moved back to the layer switcher, where it used to be before it moved to the edit menu. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@opens

Re: [OSM-talk] there are lots of falkland islands

2012-11-21 Thread SomeoneElse
Robin Paulson wrote: tens, possibly hundreds in fact. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-51.8629&lon=-58.2445&zoom=13&layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-51.8315&lon=-58.9263&zoom=12&layers=M perhaps an import gone wrong? It's caused by this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/br

Re: [OSM-talk] Downloading data via the Export tab

2012-10-23 Thread SomeoneElse
Dave F. wrote: Downloading XML from the website's Export Tab appears to put a Limit of 50,000 nodes. Given that what you're after isn't time-critical, wouldn't Overpass or even a split from an england.osm.pbf be a better option? Cheers, Andy ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Who is a good mapper? Who isn't?

2012-10-17 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Weait wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Kevin Peat wrote: Equating changeset comment quality with mapper quality is total BS. Descriptive comments are helpful to other mappers but that is all. They don't tell you anything about the quality of the changes. Directly measuring the

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: New Working Group "Welcome WG"

2012-10-02 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Weait wrote: Dear All, I recently discussed an idea for a new OSMF working Group on the OSMF talk list. Like many other people, I've contacted new local mappers over the last couple of years and can probably contribute some stats to help collate the "was contacted", "how" and "what t

Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?

2012-10-01 Thread SomeoneElse
Ilya Zverev wrote: It marks a changeset than probably needs attention. The same as red date colour in the front-end. Such changesets are mostly potlatch edits involving ways and relations, mass deletions or other significant edits. Hmm. Apparently most of my changesets "need attention" (

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Someoneelse wrote: Is there any easy way (in any editor with any plugin) of getting to this information - preferably a collated list of object / changeset tags? I've just done this in P2's history dialogue for 'comment' and 'source'

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread SomeoneElse
Philip Barnes wrote: Select way or node. Click advanced. Click way/node number. Click more details. I think that the question was about changeset tags, in which case there are a couple more steps: View History. Choose the changeset to view information for, and click it. Here's an exa

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread SomeoneElse
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Are we now reaching the crux of this discussion ? Do you believe that local survey is a requirement for mapping ? I don't and I back my position with all the places I have mapped without having visited them - I'm curious about what criticism you'll express about the qua

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread SomeoneElse
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Without the isolated clusters of buildings, how would you know that some important roads are missing ? Visiting the village and walking around it? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/lis

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread SomeoneElse
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: In that you agree with most of the opinions expressed on the French list : contributors using the cadastre generally add other details at the same time, which is one of the reasons why they find using two different accounts inconvenient. Maybe it's a work in progress:

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-21 Thread SomeoneElse
sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/248 because that poor guy doesn't read english, was following what we've always done. Hang on - they've been editing since 5th September, it's just over two weeks later; their changeset 13180810 contains 21976 nodes and the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap GPS Points Map

2012-09-10 Thread SomeoneElse
Ilya Zverev wrote: 1) A tile layer of GPS points for the whole world down to zoom 11: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/gps/ Thanks - that's really useful. It's really easy to see which bits have been mapped locally or remotely! Cheers, Andy ___ t

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Mapper sessions to OSMHV changesets

2012-08-22 Thread SomeoneElse
Gioele Barabucci wrote: At first I thought about reading the user and time and ask the API to give me back all the changesets around that time frame, but that is highly unreliable. Any other idea? Not directly related to ITO Mapper, but there's a discussion taking place on osm-dev that yo

Re: [OSM-talk] Amazon River Relation damaged

2012-08-07 Thread SomeoneElse
Holger Jeromin wrote: Is this a problem made by a user or is the editor causing a loss of relation members? Have you contacted the user to find out what they might have done to cause the problem (or even to alert them to the fact that there IS a problem)? Without that, it's difficult to

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction finished already?

2012-07-25 Thread SomeoneElse
Jan Kučera wrote: Ok so are imports allowed again? Back in April I made this request: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk@openstreetmap.org/msg42372.html and I'd suggest that it would help mappers if imports stayed off for a while too. In some areas there's a fair bit of tidying up still to be

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI - Automated edit: footway -> sidewalk

2012-07-25 Thread SomeoneElse
Gregory wrote: I don't have an account on the forum. Your standard OSM login should work there I think? Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction and re-mapping

2012-07-13 Thread SomeoneElse
Pieren wrote: What would be nice is a slippy map highlighting all elements where user "OSMF Redaction Account" is the last modifier or destroyer. If you're happy to wait a day, you could do that with ITO's OSM mapper (for ways at least). Cheers, Andy ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Submitting POI to OSM made easy

2012-07-11 Thread SomeoneElse
Josh Doe wrote: ... However, I'd say the hardest part of using the tool will be finding it! Make sure to update the wiki, and put it in a prominent place (within one or two clicks from the homepage). From memory I think that there's at least one "help.osm.org" question about "how do I just ad

Re: [OSM-talk] Is there a world render with country/city labels in English?

2012-06-06 Thread SomeoneElse
Dave F. wrote: Hi As the subject line really. I've had a quick look but came up blank. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Is http://toolserver.org/~osm/locale/en.html what you'

Re: [OSM-talk] Changing capitalization (Lima)

2012-05-31 Thread SomeoneElse
Alex Barth wrote: We're currently working with Ruben (user Rub21) on fixing street name capitalization in Lima - a lot of the street names are ALL CAPS where they should be properly capitalized. Ye gods. Looking at that patch of Lima it appears that name capitalisation is the least of your

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread SomeoneElse
Steve Bennett wrote: We'd be vulnerable to exactly the same kind of attack, right? Do we have any mechanisms to detect or prevent it? Well (at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious) we can actually see data that says "maxspeed=0" rather than just wondering why we never actually get routed

[OSM-talk] An indoor airport

2012-05-29 Thread SomeoneElse
The fence around an airport here** (Bishkek in Kyrgyzstan): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.83491&lon=74.5764&zoom=16&layers=M Seems to have been tagged "building = yes, building:levels = 2". I'm sure it gets chilly there in the winter, but this seems unlikely. Perhaps someone local to

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread SomeoneElse
Worst Fixer wrote: While doing this edit, I also want clean other tag. Also is_in tag was parsed into a set of more detailed tags. I also created overview.html that might help your review. https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzI7ljRzQhp4VnFPVkhZa096LWM What _exactly_ are you actually plannin

Re: [OSM-talk] Worst of OSM

2012-05-15 Thread SomeoneElse
Kate Chapman wrote: Hi All, Personally I think it is discouraging. I think positive encouragement is much better than this negative method. Maybe there's a place for both, but one "worst" example appears to be someone who's been mapping their home town for about a month, which really isn't f

Re: [OSM-talk] etrex 20 vs etrex H

2012-05-04 Thread SomeoneElse
Frans Thamura wrote: is etrex 20, ok? It's been discussed on a few of the mailing lists - I'd have a read of those. There are specifics about "X works better than before but Y does not"; so whether it'll work for you depends on what you want to do with it. http://www.google.co.uk/search?

[OSM-talk] Bing coverage relations, in particular 1298962

2012-04-26 Thread SomeoneElse
I noticed this while looking at the map here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=32.001059&lon=34.825519&zoom=18&layers=M The "Hires coverage of Bing imagery in the Near East" label is from the name on this relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1298962 Regardless of the "per

Re: [OSM-talk] New editors

2012-04-22 Thread SomeoneElse
Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: It would be _super_ good if we had some tool that would flag and notify some advanced active mapper in a given area of any changesets that delete more than 2 features. .. I'd be totally up for checking any and all changesets in Haiti that delete _anything_. .. A

[OSM-talk] A personal plea to bot authors

2012-04-01 Thread SomeoneElse
There are a number of automated changes that get made to the OSM database (bots). Some are straightforward (correcting common misspellings), some less so (changing one form of tagging to another, removing incorrect data*, removing single-node ways). Would it be possible to suspend automated c

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-21 Thread SomeoneElse
Janko Mihelic' wrote: Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as something that can't be a footpath. Venice: map - photo San Giminagno:map - pho

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-24 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Fairhurst wrote: (shame it's a Google map, though) Indeed. According to Google someone has knocked down Derby cathedral and rebuilt it across the road. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/ta

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim and language tags

2012-02-17 Thread SomeoneElse
Brian Quinion wrote: Official languages only (i.e. ones that are used on signs in that country) Presumably you don't want "political" official languages - i.e. languages that are "official" but "almost no-one speaks as a first language". Cheers, Andy __

Re: [OSM-talk] Night of the living maps 07.02.2012 - a 'virtual' global mapping party

2012-01-27 Thread SomeoneElse
Matthias Meißer wrote: Of course we know, that using just Bing, is just the #2 choice for adding details to our database and that survey is what we all really like. But in this case, we believe, that it is a good compromise (see hints in Wiki). Currently there seem to be no definitive answer if

Re: [OSM-talk] howto reverting one changeset?

2012-01-17 Thread SomeoneElse
valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Andy for helping, I had 4223 version of JOSM, that is the latest in Fedora RPM repository. When I started the plugin and gave it changeset it would just hang there, I left it that way for over 10 minutes then made a forceful close :( Valent. Coincidentall

Re: [OSM-talk] howto reverting one changeset?

2012-01-17 Thread SomeoneElse
OK, done. What I did was: Check from looking at the changeset that at least some objects haven't been reverted or modified already. Double-click on josm-tested.jar (I used the one that I had from 2nd September 2011 since I know that worked last week) Despite the prompt I didn't update JOSM

Re: [OSM-talk] howto reverting one changeset?

2012-01-17 Thread SomeoneElse
Paul Hartmann wrote: JOSM reverter plugin is used frequently and should work without problems. It worked for me the last time that I used it (last week I think). I'll try and revert http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10333257 and post success or failure back here. Cheers, Andy

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM render for mobile

2011-12-16 Thread SomeoneElse
Frans Thamura wrote: hi someone. :) do u use the osmosa.net or openstreetmap.org? F Definitely osmosa.net! - Your server will have seen me zooming into Denmark, Western Australia from the same IP address that I'm sending this email from about 20 minutes ago. Cheers, Andy ___

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM render for mobile

2011-12-16 Thread SomeoneElse
Frans Thamura wrote: you can try www.osmosa.net it is not mobile touch optimize, we cannot zoom by gesture "multiple touch and pull apart" to zoom is working for me on that site (on a Blackberry Playbook with a Webkit-based browser). ___ talk mai

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo Imagery

2011-10-19 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Or we switch P1 off. ;) Eeek! Don't go saying things like that... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo Imagery

2011-10-19 Thread SomeoneElse
Ilya Zverev wrote: Hi! A month ago we said bye to Yahoo imagery due to the shutting down of some of their services. But it is still available in both Potlatch versions. Did the permission to trace mention the services that can be used for tracing (and how is it available in Potlatch then), or i

Re: [OSM-talk] Problems in Chittagong, Bangladesh

2011-10-10 Thread SomeoneElse
Dave Stanley wrote: I don't know if it is from an import or just careless editing. Have a look at: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=22.32989&lon=91.80766&zoom=15&layers=M At first glance it looks like editing rather than an import, and the people doing the editing look like they're relativ

Re: [OSM-talk] Installing your own tileserver on Ubuntu

2011-10-09 Thread SomeoneElse
Kai Krueger wrote: A simple standard tileserver can now be setup in 5 commands in a terminal: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kakrueger/openstreetmap sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-tile wget http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/north-america/us/colorado.osm.pbf osm2pgsql -C 1500 colorado.osm.pbf su

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixme: A proposal

2011-10-04 Thread SomeoneElse
Erik Johansson wrote: So I took 103 entries that only occurred once from http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/FIXME Since taginfo is case sensitive, you'd want to check this also: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/fixme#values (including 19,000 comically misspelt "stream_attibutes_missing

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch2 missing?

2011-10-01 Thread SomeoneElse
On 01/10/2011 20:31, John Sturdy wrote: The "edit" tab isn't working for me -- neither on my home machine, nor if I ssh through to my work machine. (Both running iceweasel on Debian, and I haven't reconfigured anything since it last worked for me.) The slippy map and placename search seem to be O

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts and routing

2011-09-08 Thread SomeoneElse
Thomas Davie wrote: Proposed solutions (all of which are horrible): 1) Don't tag sliproads onto roundabouts as junction=roundabout, instead use some other tagging scheme. Not greatly desirable because it involves a *whole* lot of retagging. 2) Ask garmin to fix it (doesn't sound likely). 3)

Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

2011-08-31 Thread SomeoneElse
On 31/08/2011 10:47, Richard Fairhurst wrote: [1] the stuff that people have built useful stuff on, that is. I doubt anyone would miss the random landuse ... or the NPE-derived waterways in Southern England (given that we now have far better sources for those). The problem with that of cours

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/08/2011 09:44, Steve Bennett wrote: I'm not sure if this is a recent change (or I've just noticed it), but it seems that tags that don't contain anything recognisable to mapnik other than a name are getting rendered: http://osm.org/go/uG42g@6EB-- It's not a new thing, I don't think - in e

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatic Map Plotting in OpenStreetMap

2011-08-14 Thread SomeoneElse
On 14/08/2011 14:33, Stephan Knauss wrote: the magic thing is called Bing imagery. ... If it is good to have such remote mapping or bad depends on how the people "on the ground" react. Adding a whole street including geometry is imho a lot more rewarding then just entering street names. Agr

Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-25 Thread SomeoneElse
On 25/07/2011 08:53, Michael Kugelmann wrote: On 23.07.2011 18:35, I wrote: I for my personnal view think that's way too slow for current demands: we should see at least a daily update for the demands of the current work which is necessary to replace ways. Is there a way to speed up e.g. by ge

Re: [OSM-talk] Sotm-EU11: thanks to the organisation committee

2011-07-21 Thread SomeoneElse
On 21/07/2011 11:44, Mitja Kleider wrote: The Matterhorn recording system has audio and video in various formats, you can query them by talk-id: http://matterhorn.zserv.tuwien.ac.at/search/rest/episode?id=Unscheduled-lecturetube-ei7-1310734982522 Search for Camera.avi or Screen.avi and you will

Re: [OSM-talk] Sotm-EU11: thanks to the organisation committee

2011-07-20 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/07/2011 13:25, Norbert Wenzel wrote: All videos should now be online. If there's still a video missing we do not have the right to publish it or we have technical problems with the video (Steves Keynote seems not to work. Andreas Trawöger is still working on this together with the TU Te

Re: [OSM-talk] Commenting and thumbs up/down feature for changesets

2011-07-18 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/07/2011 12:15, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Unless this person has surveyed the 1350 pubs he doesn't add any information, because you can already see from the data that the toilet is inside a pub. There might be pubs which consent general use (not very probable, but in 1350 pubs this might be

Re: [OSM-talk] Commenting and thumbs up/down feature for changesets

2011-07-11 Thread SomeoneElse
On 11/07/2011 22:42, Frederik Ramm wrote: ... But what if I had 1. a facility where I can comment on the perceived usefulness of a changeset; 2. a facility where I can click a "thumbs down" or "thumbs up" in case I particularly like or dislike the change; 3. a league table showing the most

Re: [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011-06-22 Thread SomeoneElse
On 22/06/2011 21:22, Mike Dupont wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Steve Coast > wrote: On 6/22/2011 12:51 PM, 80n wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:31 PM, SteveC mailto:st...@asklater.com>> wrote: How will fosm (assuming it reaches the stag

Re: [OSM-talk] Source tags and changesets (was ... ODbL ...)

2011-06-17 Thread SomeoneElse
On 17/06/2011 09:42, Jochen Topf wrote: The source tag can sometimes be some help in figuring out the history of an object. After it was entered in OSM we have a complete history, before that the source tag can sometimes help. But it is far less useful in practice than many think. Exactly becaus

Re: [OSM-talk] Source tags and changesets (was ... ODbL ...)

2011-06-17 Thread SomeoneElse
On 17/06/2011 06:35, Ed Avis wrote: This is not really a technical question but one of convention: are per-changeset source tags generally accepted practice in the project these days? I suspect that it varies by community. My experience locally is that on-the-ground mappers tend to use per-i

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say "yes" to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

2011-06-16 Thread SomeoneElse
On 16/06/2011 18:00, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: You can also put this information in the change-set-comment. IMHO this is where this belongs to. AFAIK the source-tag is disputed and it is recommended to use the changeset comments. The problem with the changeset "source" tag is that there's no

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread SomeoneElse
On 13/06/2011 16:34, Stephan Knauss wrote: As long as MS wants to promote Silverlight using the OSM layer they should at least not silently fall back to another map. So either serve OSM with plain JS or tell the user it won't. If you believe the news / rumour sites, they might not be insis

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-14 Thread SomeoneElse
On 14/04/2011 10:56, Michael Collinson wrote: The revised contributor terms should now be live and I have just got the go ahead to be able to announce that the mandatory Accept/Decline will be switched on on Sunday. Thanks Mike - I spotted that they'd changed last night. Cheers, Andy ___

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 13/04/2011 01:44, Richard Weait wrote: The updated terms v1.2.4 will be presented when the accept / decline buttons are both available. You may read the v1.2.4 terms in advance at http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms Thanks - I see both the accept and decline buttons

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/04/2011 19:56, Michael Collinson wrote: As part of the process, the legal wording of the Contributor Terms has been improved [3] on the basis of community feedback received and to make them more friendly to individual contributors. The human-readable version of the Contributor Terms is

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011-03-31 Thread SomeoneElse
On 31/03/2011 10:20, Ed Avis wrote: I think you can assume that if no 'source' tag is set, the feature is done by traditional OSM mapping (survey, or GPS trace, or local knowledge, or perhaps tracing from aerial imagery). Sometimes it's really useful to tell the difference between those options

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