Re: [OSM-talk-be] USB dongle for GPS.

2009-06-15 Thread Philippe Duthoit
Patrick(also on this list) logs with such a device, let me poke him :-) On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Marc Coevoetsintsix...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm curious whether somebody has experience using this GPS dongle on (linux).

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed features: historic center

2009-06-15 Thread David Paleino
Ciao Martin, no need to CC me, thank you :) On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:40:55 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/6/14 David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com: [..] I agree that moving it from landuse=historic_center to something not involving history is a good thing, but also centre_zone has

Re: [OSM-talk] putting GPS units in taxis

2009-06-15 Thread Ivan Garcia
Hi Joe, I recommend you any GPS with GPRS inside (SIM card) so you can put the device for few days inside the taxi and export the data into GPX from a website, etc. Another option is not having the GPRS and just dump the GPX data once you get back the device. Best Regards. Ivan. On Mon, Jun

Re: [OSM-talk] putting GPS units in taxis

2009-06-15 Thread David Earl
The problem about doing this is that like the other similar initiatives that have been tried before (couriers in London for example), it doesn't actually advance things that much because it doesn't gather the crucial street name and number information. David On 15/06/2009 10:55, Ivan Garcia

[OSM-talk] Tourist routing via OpenStreetMap?

2009-06-15 Thread Valent Turkovic
http://www.routeyou.com Have you seen this service? This looks like a natural extension to OpenStreetMap... is there a way to make something like this with OpenStreetMap? -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with

Re: [OSM-talk] Tourist routing via OpenStreetMap?

2009-06-15 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Valent Turkovicvalent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.routeyou.com Have you seen this service? This looks like a natural extension to OpenStreetMap... is there a way to make something like this with OpenStreetMap? Demo of this service here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging hazardous routes

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Andy Street schrieb: I'd like to include these paths in OSM[1] as they do exist on the ground but would like to tag them in such a way that their use is discouraged (e.g. higher cost in routing, warning signs on walking maps). Has anyone mapped something similar we discussed in talk.de just

Re: [OSM-talk] putting GPS units in taxis

2009-06-15 Thread Andy Deakin
Hi All, Another option is not having the GPRS and just dump the GPX data once you get back the device. +1 That would be my personal recommendation. I once made a small research on the availability of GPRS enabled devices (out f personal interest) and came to the conclusion that

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging hazardous routes

2009-06-15 Thread Nick Whitelegg
When the A3 bypass[0] was constructed the route crossed several existing rights of way. Rather than building bridges or underpasses it appears that the planners struck on the novel idea of asking pedestrians to walk across four lanes of heavy traffic moving at 70-80 mph. I'd like to include these

Re: [OSM-talk] putting GPS units in taxis

2009-06-15 Thread Joe Richards
That would be my personal recommendation. I once made a small research on the availability of GPRS enabled devices (out f personal interest) and came to the conclusion that they tend to be very expensive for what they do. So I would suggest: Buy some good quality gpx trackers, that

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging hazardous routes

2009-06-15 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Andy Street schrieb: When the A3 bypass[0] was constructed the route crossed several existing rights of way. Rather than building bridges or underpasses it appears that the planners struck on the novel idea of asking pedestrians to walk across four lanes of heavy traffic moving at 70-80 mph.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed features: historic center

2009-06-15 Thread Richard Mann
I think the English word for it is Central Business District. Or less formally City Centre or Town Centre. Richard On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:28 PM, David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'd like to retrigger discussion about a Proposed feature, namely landuse=something (you'll

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging hazardous routes

2009-06-15 Thread Ed Loach
When the A3 bypass[0] was constructed the route crossed several existing rights of way. Rather than building bridges or underpasses it appears that the planners struck on the novel idea of asking pedestrians to walk across four lanes of heavy traffic moving at 70-80 mph. I've seen a number

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline

2009-06-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Jon Burgessjburgess...@googlemail.com wrote: We wrote kleptog to please take a look at it, but having no access to the original machine should make things harder. I don't know when he'll have time to work on it. Who else has past knowledge about the coastline

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag an archway ?

2009-06-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/6/13 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: Hi, someone on the french list asked how we could tag an archway ? Something like this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Place_des_Vosges_archway.jpg I didn't find anything on the wiki or tagwatch. Maybe it's even questionable to have a special tag

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag an archway ?

2009-06-15 Thread Richard Mann
An arcade usually cuts through a block, rather than running alongside a road. I'd have said colonnade was about right, though they're not exactly common in the UK (the two level shops at Chester spring to mind, but they are probably peculiar to themselves). We do have what can best be described as

Re: [OSM-talk] accessibility mapping and OpenStreetMap

2009-06-15 Thread Marc Schütz
Am Samstag 13 Juni 2009 06:09:32 schrieb Mikel Maron: Anyone working on accessibility projects with OpenStreetMap? Please get in touch, would like to talk more. Maybe you could contact the users in this category: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:WheelchairRoutingContributor AFAIK,

[OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-15 Thread Peter Dörrie
Hi all, there has been a quite lively debate on talk-de about the appearance of the openstreetmap.org page to newcomers to the project, speaking people who heard of it for the first time and come around to see if they (and how) they will be able to use it for their goals (note: not all of them

Re: [OSM-talk] accessibility mapping and OpenStreetMap

2009-06-15 Thread Ciprian Talaba
I believe we have something like this as part of GSOC 2009: http://socghop.appspot.com/student_project/show/google/gsoc2009/openstreetmap/t124023143709 --Ciprian On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Anyone working on accessibility projects with

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag an archway ?

2009-06-15 Thread Emilie Laffray
Richard Mann wrote: An arcade usually cuts through a block, rather than running alongside a road. I'd have said colonnade was about right, though they're not exactly common in the UK (the two level shops at Chester spring to mind, but they are probably peculiar to themselves). We do have what

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag an archway ?

2009-06-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/6/15 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcade_(architecture) However, the articles on wikipedia are pretty poor. +1 (the English one at least, also the 2 last pictures are not typical for what architects call an arcade, but they refer to the commercial

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-15 Thread Ed Loach
Peter wrote: there has been a quite lively debate on talk-de about the appearance of the openstreetmap.org page to newcomers to the project The front page design was mentioned here in early March, and pointed to a wiki page where there was some brief discussion:

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag an archway ?

2009-06-15 Thread Emilie Laffray
Richard Mann wrote: Arcade may be better than colonnade, but arcade is definitely in more common usage in the UK for a pedestrian route through a block with shops on both sides, so it will be slightly misleading. However I suppose the position next to a road makes it clear that it's one-sided.

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging hazardous routes

2009-06-15 Thread Tyler
I'd be tempted just to draw the ways on, stick maxspeed tags on the A3, and hope that whichever routing engine you have in mind can put a penalty on paths that cross roads with high maxspeeds and no light controlled crossing on the node(s). I'm definitely new to the OSM scene, but this

Re: [OSM-talk] putting GPS units in taxis

2009-06-15 Thread Esben Damgaard
Peter Dörrie skrev: That would be my personal recommendation. I once made a small research on the availability of GPRS enabled devices (out f personal interest) and came to the conclusion that they tend to be very expensive for what they do. I think that the Openmoko Freerunner is not too

[OSM-talk] Removing gps-tracks

2009-06-15 Thread Esben Damgaard
Correct me if I'm wrong, but now there aren't any ways of deleting gps-tracks committed to OSM, right? This I find somewhat troublesome. There are sometimes roads that are removed or changed in some way. Close to where I live, there are 2 building sites where they remove roads, and 1 motorway

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing gps-tracks

2009-06-15 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:43:26 +0200, Esben Damgaard wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but now there aren't any ways of deleting gps-tracks committed to OSM, right? You can remove your own tracks. Contact who uploaded those tracks, and ask them to remove the faulty ones :) David -- . ''`.

Re: [OSM-talk] Bike survey kit advice?

2009-06-15 Thread Esben Damgaard
Saul Albert skrev: We have the opportunity to get some bike-mounted kit, including 3g uplink, wifi equipment to provide access for the mapping party on the move, and gps devices of course. We also have some hack capacity to put together fruity combinations of equipment to achieve some

Re: [OSM-talk] putting GPS units in taxis

2009-06-15 Thread Russ Nelson
On Jun 15, 2009, at 6:03 AM, David Earl wrote: The problem about doing this is that like the other similar initiatives that have been tried before (couriers in London for example), it doesn't actually advance things that much because it doesn't gather the crucial street name and

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing gps-tracks

2009-06-15 Thread Esben Damgaard
David Paleino skrev: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:43:26 +0200, Esben Damgaard wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but now there aren't any ways of deleting gps-tracks committed to OSM, right? You can remove your own tracks. Contact who uploaded those tracks, and ask them to remove the faulty ones

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ed Loach wrote: Peter wrote: there has been a quite lively debate on talk-de about the appearance of the openstreetmap.org page to newcomers to the project The front page design was mentioned here in early March, and pointed to a wiki page where there was some brief discussion:

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-15 Thread Jonas Krückel
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, Ed Loach wrote: Peter wrote: there has been a quite lively debate on talk-de about the appearance of the openstreetmap.org page to newcomers to the project The front page design was mentioned here in early March, and pointed to a wiki page

Re: [OSM-talk] Potential Datasources - National Parks/Forest trails/roads/streams/rivers

2009-06-15 Thread Theodore Book
Tyler wrote: Further, I would like to propose the creation of US-NPS and US-NFS import pages on the wiki that can be used to reference individual imports of the form US-NPS-OLYM (the feds use a pretty standard abbreviation for the different parks) and appended with _trails

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing gps-tracks

2009-06-15 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:17:10 +0200, Esben Damgaard wrote: David Paleino skrev: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:43:26 +0200, Esben Damgaard wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but now there aren't any ways of deleting gps-tracks committed to OSM, right? You can remove your own tracks. Contact

[OSM-talk] Volunteers sought for video coverage of SOTM09

2009-06-15 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, SOTM09 in Amsterdam is drawing close and it's going to be a great event. If you haven't yet, head over to http://www.stateofthemap.org/schedules/ to see the current line-up of talks and workshops! It would be great if we could publish as much of the event as possible online soon after

[OSM-talk] How are coastlines created?

2009-06-15 Thread osmtransla...@polygongis.com
Hi, I downloaded the geometry for the island of Aruba X1--69.8126220675252 X2--70.1181793184896 Y1-12.6353132326461 Y2-12.4020417764333 I had a look at it and the coastline is represented by linework. How is this represented as a region element on the web maps? Thanks, Jerry

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing gps-tracks

2009-06-15 Thread Ed Loach
Ahh, yes I can :) But how do I find the one who uploaded the tracks? And what if they don't reply or aren't active any more? You could perhaps use Potlatch as an editor which only shows (I think) a certain number of most recent traces, so the old ones would expire at some point. Although if

[OSM-talk] adding a blog to OSM blog planet

2009-06-15 Thread maning sambale
Hi, I want to request this blog: http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/ added to http://blogs.openstreetmap.org/ Where should I address my request? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki:

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed features: historic center

2009-06-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/6/15 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com: I think the English word for it is Central Business District. Or less formally City Centre or Town Centre. When I searched for the right term a also stubled open Central Business District but I would never apply it to a center, as I

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing gps-tracks

2009-06-15 Thread Johnny Rose Carlsen
Ahh, yes I can :) But how do I find the one who uploaded the tracks? Err... http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces Sample entry (the first one right now): 20090615_W_E4schhausen.GPX [..] Wäschhausen da Gregor Wolf in Wäschhausen And Gregor Wolf is a link... :) I think its easy

Re: [Talk-it] Un bosco nel parco

2009-06-15 Thread Federico Cozzi
2009/6/15 Marco Certelli marco_certe...@yahoo.it: Signori, c'è un bosco in un parco. Disegnato il parco (poligono leisure=park) e disegnato il bosco dentro il parco (poligono natural=wood) c'è da fare una scelta: 1) multipolygon: il parco outer, il bosco inner 2) multilayer: il parco layer

Re: [Talk-it] Un bosco nel parco

2009-06-15 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il giorno 15 giugno 2009 17.04, Federico Cozzif.co...@gmail.com ha scritto: In questo caso multilayer (il bosco è nel parco) ma è da controllare che non sia già implicito nelle regole di rendering di parco e bosco. rendering? cos'è il rendering... :-D io direi che un parco di default

Re: [Talk-it] Un bosco nel parco

2009-06-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/6/15 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: Il giorno 15 giugno 2009 17.04, Federico Cozzif.co...@gmail.com ha scritto: In questo caso multilayer (il bosco è nel parco) ma è da controllare che non sia già implicito nelle regole di rendering di parco e bosco. non, mai usare layer per

Re: [Talk-it] Un bosco nel parco

2009-06-15 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il giorno 15 giugno 2009 17.15, Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: come ti ho già scritto generalmente non si usa natural=wood ma landuse=forest. perchè? sono due features entrambe riconosciute... ciao, Martin ciao Luca ___

Re: [Talk-it] Un bosco nel parco

2009-06-15 Thread Federico Cozzi
2009/6/15 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: come ti ho già scritto generalmente non si usa natural=wood ma landuse=forest. perchè? wood per i boschi naturali (non gestiti dall'uomo) forest per i boschi gestiti ___ Talk-it mailing list

[Talk-it] poster per il CERN

2009-06-15 Thread Ruggero
Sto lavorando per qualche mese al CERN. L'area è ben mappata, ma si può fare di meglio. Ho creato questo poster (in realtà l'ho copiato da non ricordo chi e ho cambiato il primo paragrafo e le immagini) http://rturra.web.cern.ch/rturra/poster.png cosa ne pensate? Ci sono errori nell'inglese?

Re: [Talk-it] poster per il CERN

2009-06-15 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:45:13 +0200, Ruggero wrote: Sto lavorando per qualche mese al CERN. L'area è ben mappata, ma si può fare di meglio. Ho creato questo poster (in realtà l'ho copiato da non ricordo chi e ho cambiato il primo paragrafo e le immagini)

Re: [Talk-it] Un bosco nel parco

2009-06-15 Thread Marco Certelli
Bene, allora provo con landuse=forest e no multipolygon Vedremo cosa farà il render. Avevo comunque fatto una prova e mapnik mette il bosco (natural=wood) sopra il parco (che è OK) mentre osmarender mette il parco sopra il bosco (not OK...) Ho visto poi che a Berlino hanno messo qualche

Re: [Talk-it] Un bosco nel parco

2009-06-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/6/15 Marco Certelli marco_certe...@yahoo.it: Bene, allora provo con landuse=forest e no multipolygon Vedremo cosa farà il render. Avevo comunque fatto una prova e mapnik mette il bosco (natural=wood) sopra il parco (che è OK) mentre osmarender mette il parco sopra il bosco (not

Re: [Talk-it] collegare entrata edificio con strada

2009-06-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/6/13 Ruggero giurr...@gmail.com: Ho mappato l'entrata di un edificio come building=entrance, ma ora come faccio a collegare l'entrata dell'edificio alla strada che gli passa accanto. Il segmento della strada è in corrispondenza dell'asse della strada, quindi non si interseca con l'entrata

Re: [Talk-it] Osmosis e plugin tagtransform

2009-06-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/6/13 Vezzo vezz...@gmail.com: 2009/6/13 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com io l'ho usato ormai un annetto fa il tagtransform. mi funzionava. trovi qualche info sulla mia pagina wiki User:Simone Avevo già visto, mi sa che mi toccherà editare i file a manina, visto che con tag-transform

Re: [Talk-it] Osmosis e plugin tagtransform

2009-06-15 Thread Vezzo
2009/6/15 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com non puoi aprire la zona in JOSM, fare una ricerca (dentro JOSM, è potente) e poi fare le modifiche? Oppure ho capito male il tuo problema? Diciamo che volevo sistemare il file senza usare josm, e avevo trovato questo plugin che mi faceva

Re: [Talk-at] Schulung ? first steps?

2009-06-15 Thread Ingo Lantschner
Am 13.06.2009 um 19:06 schrieb Andreas M.: Guter Anknüpfungspunkt. Gibt's eigentlich schon einen nächsten Termin für Wien? ;-) Bisher noch nicht. Vor ein paar Tagen kam der Vorschlag, wie früher schon desöfteren angeregt wurde, zur Abwechslung mal eine produktive Open-Air-Veranstaltung

[talk-ph] really cool osm activities in mindanao

2009-06-15 Thread maning sambale
http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/ -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ --

Re: [talk-ph] really cool osm activities in mindanao

2009-06-15 Thread George Tujan
@maning: we hope to attract more volunteers for osm :) and next time you guys can visit us as well On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:29 PM, maning sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/ -- cheers, maning --

Re: [talk-ph] NLEX routing errors (was Fwd: Candaba Viaduct span)

2009-06-15 Thread Axel Kollmorgen
On 15.06.2009 11:14, Ed Garcia wrote: btw, I have a question which may be basic ... how do you create wide rivers? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Driverbank ax ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org

[talk-ph] Salcedo Village Makati

2009-06-15 Thread Andre Marcelo-Tanner
thats amazing work, i remember looking at it before and it was nowhere that detailed. This would be another cool mapping party idea. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph

Re: [talk-ph] [OSM-talk] adding a blog to OSM blog planet

2009-06-15 Thread maning sambale
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Shaun McDonaldsh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: Me. Done. Shaun On 16 Jun 2009, at 00:07, maning sambale wrote: Hi, I want to request this blog: http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/ added to http://blogs.openstreetmap.org/ Where should I address my

Re: [talk-ph] Philippines PGS coastline import

2009-06-15 Thread Ian Haylock
Hi, The Philippines PGS coastline in OSM format is now available here : http://www.teradepot.com/zllpal22nzo2/Philippines_PGS_coastline.osm.html Cheers, Ian --- On Tue, 9/6/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: Re:

Re: [talk-ph] Philippines PGS coastline import

2009-06-15 Thread maning sambale
Nice work ianhaylock! I downloaded the file and my PC crawled! I like the addition of large/wide rivers in the data and I am in favor for importing them (but, that's just me). Still, I'm a bit scared if we bork something at this time, especially when davao is preparing for a mapping party.

Re: [talk-ph] More OSMPH goodness?

2009-06-15 Thread maning sambale
The thing is, OSM seems to be just one of their sources of data. Looking at their Visayas screenshots, their road network is much more extensive than what is available in OSM. I think we should contact them and ask where they got their other data (to see if we can also get it for OSM if it's

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] weesperstraat/sarphatistraat-mauritskade

2009-06-15 Thread Lambert Carsten
On Sunday 14 June 2009 23:55:15 Christiaan Welvaart wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Lambert Carsten wrote: http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=52.361942flon=4.917075tlat=52.359638tlon=4.906853v=bicyclefast=0layer=mapnik Helaas doet yournavigation het op dit moment het niet goed. Ik had beter een

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] weesperstraat/sarphatistraat-mauritskade

2009-06-15 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Lambert Carsten wrote: On Sunday 14 June 2009 23:55:15 Christiaan Welvaart wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Lambert Carsten wrote: http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=52.361942flon=4.917075tlat=52.359638tlon=4.906853v=bicyclefast=0layer=mapnik Helaas doet yournavigation het

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Richard Korthuis wrote: 2009/6/15 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de Dit resulteerde in het project OpenKVK. We zijn op IRC alvast begonnen met het zogenaamde scrapen van de KVK website, zodat deze ook beschikbaar is na twaalf uur 's avonds. Wat is precies het

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
En wat is de relatie met OSM? Behalve dan dat het beide kennelijk open is :) Groet, Floris Richard Korthuis wrote: 2009/6/15 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de Dit resulteerde in het project OpenKVK. We zijn op IRC alvast begonnen met het zogenaamde scrapen van de KVK website, zodat deze ook

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: En wat is de relatie met OSM? Behalve dan dat het beide kennelijk open is :) ...een paar mensen hier wilde in een grijs verleden postcodes en huisnummerreeksen binnen OSM hebben. We hebben nu al meer postcode - adres koppelingen dan het 6PP

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] weesperstraat/sarphatistraat-mauritskade

2009-06-15 Thread Lambert Carsten
On Monday 15 June 2009 11:59:08 Christiaan Welvaart wrote: De 'snelle' route ging over de Singelgracht, langs de Spinozastraat, stukje Sarphatistraat om weer over de Singelgracht te gaan in plaats van gewoon de Mauritskade te volgen zoals de kortste route. Ik snap (ook) niet wat die

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Lambert Carsten
On Monday 15 June 2009 12:12:36 Stefan de Konink wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Richard Korthuis wrote: 2009/6/15 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de Dit resulteerde in het project OpenKVK. We zijn op IRC alvast begonnen met het zogenaamde scrapen van de KVK website, zodat deze ook

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Lambert Carsten wrote: Was er niet onlangs een probleem met het herpubliceren van kvk gegevens (of het publiceren door kvk zélf) in die zin dat bekende Nederlanders die een eigen bedrijf hebben (artiesten bijvoorbeeld) zo al te gemakkelijk met hun privé gegevens

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] weesperstraat/sarphatistraat-mauritskade

2009-06-15 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 15/06/09 11:59 +0200 - Christiaan Welvaart: De 'snelle' route ging over de Singelgracht, langs de Spinozastraat, stukje Sarphatistraat om weer over de Singelgracht te gaan in plaats van gewoon de Mauritskade te volgen zoals de kortste route. Ik snap (ook) niet wat die 'snelle' optie doet,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 15/06/09 12:35 +0200 - Lambert Carsten: De KVK site 24x7 beschikbaar maken en een API er voor zetten. Spannende dingen als 'laat alle bedrijven van NL op de OSM kaart zien' zou eventueel ook kunnen in de nabije toekomst. Was er niet onlangs een probleem met het herpubliceren van kvk

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Milo van der Linden
Ik kan je uit ervaring vertellen dat je geen bekende Nederlander hoeft te zijn om last te hebben van het feit dat je bij de Kvk staat ingeschreven. Wekelijk ontvang ik zo'n 10 reclame uitingen en 5 telefoontjes op basis van het feit dat iemand bij de Kvk mijn gegevens heeft gekocht. Uitermate

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Hay (Husky)
2009/6/15 Milo van der Linden m...@opengeo.nl: De dag dat het niet meer verplicht is om bij de Kvk ingeschreven te staan of de dag dat er een door de overheid geaccepteerd initiatief komt ben ik meteen weg bij die club. Het tegenovergestelde is helaas waar: sinds begin van dit jaar moeten ook

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 15/06/09 13:37 +0200 - Hay (Husky): Desondanks: goed initiatief om de database vrij te maken, zodat we eindelijk eens af kunnen van dat gekke register dat dicht gaat om middernacht. Ik weet niet helemaal zeker wat je onder vrij maken verstaat, maar het openkvk.nl project maakt geen data vrij

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Hay (Husky)
2009/6/15 Rejo Zenger osm-talk...@subs.krikkit.nl: Ik weet niet helemaal zeker wat je onder vrij maken verstaat, maar het openkvk.nl project maakt geen data vrij in de zin dat het opeens onder andere gebruiksvoorwaarden beschikbaar komt. Het maakt de data misschien anders beschikbaar dan het

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 15/06/09 14:16 +0200 - Hay (Husky): Daarnaast, je publiceert mogelijk persoonsgegevens. Ik denk (weet dat niet zeker, ik ben geen jurist) dat indien het vestigingsadres van een kleine ondernemer overeenkomen met zijn NAW gegevens van zijn woonadres, deze vestiginggegevens als

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Rejo Zenger wrote: Die zijn nu toch ook al beschikbaar via kvk.nl? Als je mijn naam intikt bij kvk.nl krijg je ook mijn huisadres. Daar verandert openkvk verder niks aan. Jawel, openkvk.nl herpubliceert die persoonsgegevens. Ik denk (maar nogmaals, ik ben alles behalve

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 15/06/09 14:33 +0200 - Stefan de Konink: Jawel, openkvk.nl herpubliceert die persoonsgegevens. Ik denk (maar nogmaals, ik ben alles behalve jurist) dat je niet zomaar persoons- gegevens mag herpubliceren. Ook niet als de bron al openbaar is. [1] [1] En nogmaals, er vanuitgaande dat dit

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Rejo Zenger wrote: Tik je bedrijfsnaam eens in op Google ofzo ;) bedrijvengidsen genoeg die exact de zelfde data herpubliceren :) Dat lijkt me voor het argument niet relevant. Uiteraard wel, de KVK verkoopt deze informatie onder de noemer 'starterslijsten'. Zij

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] weesperstraat/sarphatistraat-mauritskade

2009-06-15 Thread Martijn van Exel
2009/6/15 Lambert Carsten lhc@solcon.nl: On Sunday 14 June 2009 23:55:15 Christiaan Welvaart wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Lambert Carsten wrote: http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=52.361942flon=4.917075tlat=52.359638tlon=4.906853v=bicyclefast=0layer=mapnik Helaas doet yournavigation het

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] weesperstraat/sarphatistraat-mauritskade

2009-06-15 Thread Lambert Carsten
On Monday 15 June 2009 20:06:45 Martijn van Exel wrote: 2009/6/15 Lambert Carsten lhc@solcon.nl: On Sunday 14 June 2009 23:55:15 Christiaan Welvaart wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Lambert Carsten wrote: http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=52.361942flon=4.917075tlat=52.35963

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Lambert Carsten
On Monday 15 June 2009 14:16:35 Hay (Husky) wrote: 2009/6/15 Rejo Zenger osm-talk...@subs.krikkit.nl: Ik weet niet helemaal zeker wat je onder vrij maken verstaat, maar het openkvk.nl project maakt geen data vrij in de zin dat het opeens onder andere gebruiksvoorwaarden beschikbaar komt.

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] weesperstraat/sarphatistraat-mauritskade

2009-06-15 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Rejo Zenger wrote: ++ 15/06/09 11:59 +0200 - Christiaan Welvaart: De 'snelle' route ging over de Singelgracht, langs de Spinozastraat, stukje Sarphatistraat om weer over de Singelgracht te gaan in plaats van gewoon de Mauritskade te volgen zoals de kortste route. Ik

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenKVK

2009-06-15 Thread Lambert Carsten
On Monday 15 June 2009 21:22:47 Lambert Carsten wrote: Een goede vriend van mij heeft zich hier ooit erg in verdiept. Ik zal hem vragen of hij hier iets zinnigs over te melden heeft. Helaas niet: Dit is een uiterst complex gebeuren. Ik word op dit moment al gek van het werk dat ik moet doen.

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] (OSM Talk-nl)Open KvK

2009-06-15 Thread Jacob Bax
Als ik het dus goed begrijp heeft de KvK een website die om 24:00 uit de lucht gaat. Een groepje dat zich OpenKvK noemt heeft een manier gevonden om die KvK site in de lucht te houden, buiten medeweten of medewerking van de KvK zelf. Als dat klopt, is het misschien een nobel streven of misschien

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] (OSM Talk-nl)Open KvK

2009-06-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
Jacob Bax wrote: Als ik het dus goed begrijp heeft de KvK een website die om 24:00 uit de lucht gaat. Een groepje dat zich OpenKvK noemt heeft een manier gevonden om die KvK site in de lucht te houden, buiten medeweten of medewerking van de KvK zelf. KVK weet dat data wordt gelezen van de

Re: [talk-au] Petition to MP

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Jeff Price jeff.pr...@rocketmail.com wrote:   I definitely agree external data sources should be reviewed some how before being imported such that anything currently in place remains as the authoritative instance. I didn't mean to suggested that any govt provided data

Re: [talk-au] Petition to MP

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Jeff Price jeff.pr...@rocketmail.com wrote: Yep have the email history and a copy is on its way to you directly. Thanks for that, it's exactly what I was looking for, not planning to use it word for word, but it's given me a nice template to start from.

[talk-au] Roads that follow ABS suburb boundaries

2009-06-15 Thread b . schulz . 10
Greetings Talk-Au, Tonight I tried to enter tertiary roads based on a GPX track I took on a drive from Newcastle to Clarence Town some months back and came to a point where one of the roads follows an ABS suburb boundary. I'm wondering what the best way to handle this is. The GPX track and the

[talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
In my up an coming trip to SE QLD, I'm probably going to go through a number of largish, relatively speaking, regional towns that aren't mapped out except for a handful of streets and most if not all were from landsat imagery. Now does anyone have suggestions on how to basically drive the

Re: [talk-au] Roads that follow ABS suburb boundaries

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 15/6/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: Ok, I split the ABS boundary way as needed and added highway=tertiary to it. This is what has been done with the rivers in the area which follow ABS boundaries. Can somebody confirm that this was the correct course

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Liz
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: Now does anyone have suggestions on how to basically drive the entire town the most efficiently with the minimal amount of overlap, or how does one plan such a feat. It depends if they are set out in rectangular bocks or wiggles rectangular blocks -

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Liz
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: Thoughts, hints and tips will be appreciated. Personally I'd concentrate on doing one or two on the journey up and one or two on the journey back. One large and one small? ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Darrin Smith
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:22:42 +1000 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: Thoughts, hints and tips will be appreciated. Personally I'd concentrate on doing one or two on the journey up and one or two on the journey back. One large and one small? I'd agree.

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: It depends if they are set out in rectangular bocks or wiggles Most of the streets in the towns given seem to be fairly straight, thankfully. We photograph the street signs which means we go round slowly I've been playing around lately on

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Liz
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: I've been playing around lately on the best way to store street name info and voice recording notes seems to win hands down because it is easier/quicker, especially when doing it by yourself. You don't have to stop or fumble with devices, you just talk

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: OSM makes you look for somethings out there between the nothings. You have to, at times, squint and turn round, maybe pluck a chook to find it! :) I know that country, and the Hay Plains still win for nothingness. A few prickly pear, a

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-15 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I got a cheap mp3 player that offered recording but i couldn't get it to work, so i quit that line of investigation. could be worthwhile, certainly easier than writing on paper on the steering wheel at speed Have you seen the photos of

Re: [Talk-de] landuse=residential, wenn buildings eingezeichnet?

2009-06-15 Thread Georg Feddern
Moin, Markus schrieb: landuse=residential ist (soweit ich das bisher verstanden habe) a) ein Ersatz für noch nicht eingetragene Häuser b) eine Unterstützung für den Renderer, damit er auf niedrigeren Zoomstufen die Umrisse der Ortschaften als Fläche darstellen kann. Auch wenn a)

[Talk-de] download.geofabrik.de tut nicht

2009-06-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, der Geofabrik-Downloadserver ist seit Freitag nachmittag nicht erreichbar. Soll aber lt. Provider in den naechsten Stunden repariert werden, und dann wird es nochmal einige Stunden dauern, bis die aktuellen Daten von heute nacht drauf sind. Wenn ich am Freitag gewusst haette, dass

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