Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Merkaartor] Wallonie PPNC wms

2010-08-20 Thread eMerzh
Hello, I asked to use data from them but it's quite slow... in june they told me that they will have an answer for september Quite not sure about the date but i stay aware till i get an answer... I keep you updated eMerzh On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 20:06, Chris Browet c...@semperpax.com

Re: [OSM-talk] Beaches at lower zoom levels

2010-08-20 Thread Steve Bennett
Out of curiosity, where do you get this low- and high-tide data from anyway? On aerial photos it's pretty hard to see anything except where the water happened to be at the time of the photo. Steve On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2010-08-18

[OSM-talk] Unnamed Streets

2010-08-20 Thread Gregory Arenius
Is there any recommended way to deal with streets with no names? I don't mean streets that have a name and we just haven't added that to OSM yet. I mean, how do we deal with streets that really don't have a name. I've seen two courses of action used. One is to just leave the name field blank

Re: [OSM-talk] Unnamed Streets

2010-08-20 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:23:15 -0700 Gregory Arenius greg...@arenius.com wrote: Is there any recommended way to deal with streets with no names? I don't mean streets that have a name and we just haven't added that to OSM yet. I mean, how do we deal with streets that really don't have a name.

Re: [OSM-talk] Unnamed Streets

2010-08-20 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Gregory Arenius greg...@arenius.com wrote: Is there any recommended way to deal with streets with no names? I don't mean streets that have a name and we just haven't added that to OSM yet. I mean, how do we deal with streets that really don't have a name. According to the wiki (1) you can

Re: [OSM-talk] Beaches at lower zoom levels

2010-08-20 Thread Malcolm Herring
Steve Bennett wrote: Out of curiosity, where do you get this low- and high-tide data from anyway? On aerial photos it's pretty hard to see anything except where the water happened to be at the time of the photo. In the UK, OS Street View has the MHW line. You can put this in WMS overlay on

Re: [OSM-talk] Unnamed Streets

2010-08-20 Thread Gregory Arenius
Thanks. My searches for unnamed completely missed noname. Cheers, Greg On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Pierre-Alain Dorange pdora...@mac.comwrote: Gregory Arenius greg...@arenius.com wrote: Is there any recommended way to deal with streets with no names? I don't mean streets that have

Re: [OSM-talk] Unnamed Streets

2010-08-20 Thread Ed Avis
Gregory Arenius gregory at arenius.com writes: Is there any recommended way to deal with streets with no names? If there is no street sign then tag unsigned=yes. (You can do that even if the road has a name added from other sources.) If it definitely doesn't have a name, tag noname=yes. In

[OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of nature reserve is very, very bad

2010-08-20 Thread Vladimir Vyskocil
Hi, For example, look at this : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.3229lon=-61.5603zoom=13layers=M The green overlay with NR letter cover almost everything, lands and sea ! It is hard to even distinguish what is the sea around the island. Can't this be fixed ? Prehaps make it render like

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

2010-08-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
David, David Groom wrote: According to the LWG minutes the CT wre finalised and agreed by legal counsel sometime between 16 June 2010 and 22 June 2010, not in December last year. My apologies. In that case: My main problem is that we're having this discussion now, when the CT were finalised

Re: [OSM-talk] moderation going forward

2010-08-20 Thread Chris Browet
A well-moderated list can be a valuable forum for achieving consensus, rather than just a soapbox for every opinion to be voiced. But every opinions should have a place to voice themselves, shouldn't they? If Talk becomes moderated/censured, where would that be? Wouldn't it better to create

Re: [OSM-talk] moderation going forward

2010-08-20 Thread Simon Ward
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:52:04AM +0200, Chris Browet wrote: If Talk becomes moderated/censured, where would that be? Wouldn't it better to create specific, on-topic moderated lists (and moderate the existing ones) rather than moderating Talk, whose topic is not obvious? Then people who

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of nature reserve is very, very bad

2010-08-20 Thread pavithran
On 20 August 2010 14:53, Vladimir Vyskocil vladimir.vysko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For example, look at this : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.3229lon=-61.5603zoom=13layers=M The green overlay with NR letter cover almost everything, lands and sea ! It is hard to even distinguish what

Re: [OSM-talk] moderation going forward

2010-08-20 Thread Chris Browet
Most of the topic‐focused lists are sane. I think the point is, legal discussion is swamping the talk list, and there are already lists specifically for legal discussion and therefore better suited to the topic. Is this moderating stuff all about the license change? If so, and I know

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of nature reserve is very, very bad

2010-08-20 Thread Liz
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, pavithran wrote: Re: NR for natural reserve . IMHO using names for landuses doesn't look good . Replacing it with some other art work which converys the same meaning would be a better idea. I agree with your point - as soon as we consider users of non-Latin scripts and

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of nature reserve is very, very bad

2010-08-20 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/20 pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com: On 20 August 2010 14:53, Vladimir Vyskocil vladimir.vysko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For example, look at this : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.3229lon=-61.5603zoom=13layers=M The green overlay with NR letter cover almost everything, lands

Re: [OSM-talk] moderation going forward

2010-08-20 Thread 80n
Simon The license change is the biggest single issue facing OSM at this time. There are frequently complaints that people have not been aware that it was happening. Shunting it off to legal-talk@ could be construed as a way of helping the process to happen by stealth and attrition. For the

[OSM-talk] Valid geometry for closed ways

2010-08-20 Thread Sebastian Klein
Hi, what are valid geometries for closed ways that represent an area? Surely overlapping line segments shouldn't be allowed, but what about ways that contain a certain node more than 1 time? (Except first and last) Example: AB xx || xx D--x E C|| xx F

Re: [OSM-talk] moderation going forward

2010-08-20 Thread Peter Körner
Am 20.08.2010 12:36, schrieb Chris Browet: Do you honestly think the Nearmap announcement should have been posted to Legal, with only a fraction of OSM'ers aware? I don't think so. Not the announcement but the discussion, I think. Peter ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] moderation going forward

2010-08-20 Thread Simon Ward
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:36:18PM +0200, Chris Browet wrote: Is this moderating stuff all about the license change? No, that’s just the current example. If so, and I know others agree, it should certainly NOT be moderated on Talk. I disagree. (Although, seeing as there is call for an

Re: [OSM-talk] moderation going forward

2010-08-20 Thread Simon Ward
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:01:02PM +0100, 80n wrote: The license change is the biggest single issue facing OSM at this time. There are frequently complaints that people have not been aware that it was happening. Shunting it off to legal-talk@ could be construed as a way of helping the process

Re: [OSM-talk] moderation going forward

2010-08-20 Thread Chris Browet
This thread should be moved to legal. I saw the words ODbL and Contributor Terms :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Valid geometry for closed ways

2010-08-20 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El día Friday 20 August 2010 13:00:08, Sebastian Klein dijo: what are valid geometries for closed ways that represent an area? If you want polygons to behave as in paleo GIS, you should refer to the industry standars. Specifically, to http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/sfa , version

Re: [OSM-talk] Valid geometry for closed ways

2010-08-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: If you want polygons to behave as in paleo GIS, you should refer to the industry standars. Specifically, to http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/sfa , version 1.2.1, page 26: Agree with all, except that, for simplicity, we tend to make an exception in c)

Re: [OSM-talk] Valid geometry for closed ways

2010-08-20 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El día Friday 20 August 2010 14:17:55 dijiste que: ++ |  +--+--+   | |  |  |  |   | |  +--+--+   | ++ [...] and then two independent ways for each of the inner areas. Why not make the inner areas into multipolygon relations, with two outer ways each? -- Iván

Re: [OSM-talk] Valid geometry for closed ways

2010-08-20 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org writes: Hi, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: If you want polygons to behave as in paleo GIS, you should refer to the industry standars. Specifically, to http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/sfa , version 1.2.1, page 26: Agree with all, except

Re: [OSM-talk] Valid geometry for closed ways

2010-08-20 Thread Sebastian Klein
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El día Friday 20 August 2010 13:00:08, Sebastian Klein dijo: what are valid geometries for closed ways that represent an area? If you want polygons to behave as in paleo GIS, you should refer to the industry standars. Specifically, to

[OSM-talk] Mapnik (was: Mapnik rendering of nature reserve is very, very bad)

2010-08-20 Thread Klaus Hartl
Basically, i'd really like to find out which group of people contributes to the mapnik rendering styles. Is there a specific mailing list for graphic style discussions somewhere? Thanks for hints! Cheers Klaus On 20.08.2010 11:23, Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: Hi, For example, look at this :

[OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread Grant Slater
OSM, Please copy this to local lists as appropriate. Tuesday 8:00am (24 August 2010 GMT/UTC+0) the API and editing on www.openstreetmap.org will be unavailable during a hardware upgrade. The upgrade is expected to take 1 hour 30mins. Regards Grant Part of the OSM Sysadmin Team

[OSM-talk] OSMF Officers

2010-08-20 Thread Simone Cortesi
Dear Members of OSM Foundation and interested parties, As the newly chosen secretary of the OpenStreetMap Foundation I'm here to shortly announce that: Emilie Laffray is the new treasurer of OSMF Simone Cortesi is the new secretary of OSMF Mr. Steve Coast is the chairman of OSMF In addition,

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Thread Rory McCann
On 19/08/10 18:32, Pierre-Alain Dorange wrote: I got a question about religious tags. There is amenity=place_of_worship (1) for church, temple, mosque, synagogue... (adding the religion and denomination if needed) For convent, monestary and generally religious place but not open to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Rory McCann r...@technomancy.org wrote: I believe someone in the Irish community (CCed) was suggesting using 'religious' as 'things that are religious but aren't a place of worship'. Something like amenity=religious + religious=monastery ? -- Pierre-Alain Dorange

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik

2010-08-20 Thread Lennard
On 20-8-2010 15:50, Klaus Hartl wrote: Basically, i'd really like to find out which group of people contributes to the mapnik rendering styles. Is there a specific mailing list for graphic style discussions somewhere? You can mail mapnik-team at the openstreetmap.org domain, aka steve8 and me

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Thread Ed Loach
Pierre-Alain wrote: I got a question about religious tags. Not answering your question as such, but it would be nice if things like amenity=hospital, amenity=school, amenity=place_of_worship and others could be brought into some sort of common standard. Amenity=school is often used to mark the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik (was: Mapnik rendering of nature reserve is very, very bad)

2010-08-20 Thread pavithran
On 20 August 2010 19:20, Klaus Hartl k...@gmx.de wrote: Basically, i'd really like to find out which group of people contributes to the mapnik rendering styles. Is there a specific mailing list for graphic style discussions somewhere? There is none listed at

Re: [OSM-talk] Valid geometry for closed ways

2010-08-20 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Sebastian Klein bastikln at googlemail.com writes: I remember someone said that Multipolygon would be misnomer. But according to this specification, it fits quite well, doesn't it? All the polygons can be called multipolygons. Polygon is a simple variant of a multipolygon, and it can hold

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of nature reserve is very, very bad

2010-08-20 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/20 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com: Anyway, I agree that rendering NR should be more like administrative zone with special rules, not current green overlay. At least not for default osm.org map. +1 maybe also with different linetypes/colours for different protection grades and light

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Seamarks

2010-08-20 Thread Christian Wagner
Andreas Labres wrote: Continuing dispute between the two groups I was suggesting that a state of peaceful co-existence can be achieved - Our editors will not alter or remove tags that are not ours, and hopefully this will be reciprocated. Which means- from a mappers perspective- to

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread Martin Fossdal Guttesen
Some of us or most are nerds in some way. and a there is nothing more interesting than to hear about hardware upgrades, specificatly the details what kind of upgrades are beeing performed ? -- From: Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com Sent:

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread Tom Hughes
On 20/08/10 17:43, Maarten Deen wrote: Hmm, hardware upgrade. Will this fix the intermittent very slowness of the API? Not particularly - it is a planned upgrade rather then a response to anything. I've been working on relations yesterday and today, and while loading these relations (max

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread Tom Hughes
On 20/08/10 18:00, Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: Some of us or most are nerds in some way. and a there is nothing more interesting than to hear about hardware upgrades, specificatly the details what kind of upgrades are beeing performed ? We're installing extra memory - doubling what is

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Seamarks

2010-08-20 Thread Mario Salvini
2010/8/20 Christian Wagner wagnerschrist...@gmail.com .. Unfortunately I want both- OSeaM cannot show most of my safewater buoys, doesn't render white light beacons etc- for sure nobody is perfect, so no offence. FT has some other drawbacks (e.g. no proper Garmin maps). Recommending to

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Well, I actually tag the whole grounds of a church as amenity=place_of_worship and leave the building(s) as building=yes ignoring the fact that it looks awful on the Mapnik layer. For example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/39724055 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Ed Loach

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/20 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com: Well, I actually tag the whole grounds of a church as amenity=place_of_worship and leave the building(s) as building=yes ignoring the fact that it looks awful on the Mapnik layer. For example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/39724055 so

[OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread SteveC
I keep thinking an editing app for the 3G / wifi iPad would be awesome. It's always on the network, GPS and compass are built in. It would be a sweet surveying device, but would have to be super fault tolerant in doing things like waiting for the network. Steve stevecoast.com

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
M?rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I actually tag the whole grounds of a church as amenity=place_of_worship and leave the building(s) as building=yes ignoring the fact that it looks awful on the Mapnik layer. For example:

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
You're being too literal with worship part of place_of_worship. We have highway=steps and stairways are definitely not highways. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:19 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/20 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com: Well, I actually tag the whole

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread Graham Jones
Maybe a neater alternative would be to make Potlatch respond to touch screen events and access the location - then it will work when linux based clones of the ipad appear too? It should be possible to grab the touch screen events (you can in javascript anyway) - not sure if there are issues with

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread Andrew Ayre
Sadly flash won't work on the iPad. So it would likely to have to be an iPad specific app in Objective-C (shudder). And then a Flash version for all the other platforms. Andy Graham Jones wrote: Maybe a neater alternative would be to make Potlatch respond to touch screen events and access the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik

2010-08-20 Thread Klaus Hartl
Thanks a lot, Lennard and Pavithran! This might be useful for everybody doing some HOT rapid mapping and subsequently hopefully humanitarian staff for the region of Pakistan. * There seem to be plenty of intermittent rivers / wadis [see links below] I'd like to tag. natural=scree seems to be

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread bernhard zwischenbrugger
hi I keep thinking an editing app for the 3G / wifi iPad would be awesome. It's always on the network, GPS and compass are built in. It would be a sweet surveying device, but would have to be super fault tolerant in doing things like waiting for the network. Collecting gpx files would

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Seamarks

2010-08-20 Thread Christian Wagner
Hi Christian, the problem for a Garmin-Map at the moment is the limited value of possible Icons in the Garmins (around about 30-60 icons only). But FT, vor example has over 300 different icons, raising tendency ;) Regards Mario Well, so far I think it would be enough to render the

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread John Smith
On 21 August 2010 05:12, bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote: But editing with a touchscreen is not easy. How to set a point using a finger? If you put the finger to the screen, you don't see where the point is set. The finger covers the point and it can't be exact. Any idea

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:12 PM, bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote: But editing with a touchscreen is not easy. How to set a point using a finger? If you put the finger to the screen, you don't see where the point is set. The finger covers the point and it can't be exact.

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread Alex S.
Tom Hughes wrote: On 20/08/10 18:00, Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: what kind of upgrades are beeing performed ? We're installing extra memory - doubling what is there now. And that takes 90 minutes? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Alex S. wrote: what kind of upgrades are beeing performed ? We're installing extra memory - doubling what is there now. And that takes 90 minutes? When done in a rush, it can easily take a day or two ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Seamarks

2010-08-20 Thread Christian Wagner
So it would appear that we actually have * one official proposal, currently under discussion (also used by FT) * one private scheme, with private tags (exclusively used by OSeaM) Now, the thing is I'm not really sure about this assessment. What I wrote above is my current

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
Shutting the server down, installing the new memory, bringing the system up to maintenance mode, running tests to make sure the new memory is working properly, bringing the system up to normal mode, and making sure that all of the processes are running OK can easily take 90 minutes.

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread Liz
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Alex S. wrote: On 20/08/10 18:00, Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: what kind of upgrades are beeing performed ? We're installing extra memory - doubling what is there now. And that takes 90 minutes? Now when it is finished in 30 minutes you'll all be happy If it

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread Lennard
On 20-8-2010 22:45, Liz wrote: Now when it is finished in 30 minutes you'll all be happy If it takes 91 minutes you will complaining Of course the time estimate has to be high. That's human psychology for you. Of course, 90 minutes trumps a 5 day weekend upgrading the API any day. --

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread Peter Wendorff
On 20.08.2010 21:12, bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote: [...] But editing with a touchscreen is not easy. How to set a point using a finger? If you put the finger to the screen, you don't see where the point is set. The finger covers the point and it can't be exact. Any idea how to solve this

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 20 August 2010 23:24, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote:  On 20.08.2010 21:12, bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote: [...] But editing with a touchscreen is not easy. How to set a point using a finger? If you put the finger to the screen, you don't see where the point is set. The

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread John Harvey
I use Mapzen POI Collector on my iPhone: http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/mapzen-poi-collector/id338079717?mt=8 It's made by the CloudMade guys: http://mapzen.cloudmade.com/mapzen-poi-collector It isn't perfect (you can't add roads or areas and can't modify all nodes), but it scratches my

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread Joseph Reeves
Any idea how to solve this problem? Put a touchpad on the back of the tablet: http://www.notionink.in/ I'm also told that Notion Ink will consider giving you a free Adam if you develop an app that needs testing on it. Android phones also outsell Apple powered handhelds at the moment; if tablets

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/20 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com: You're being too literal with worship part of place_of_worship.  We have highway=steps and stairways are definitely not highways. Amenity=place_of_worship is IMO to be taken literally: it is about worshipping (mosque, church, temple, synagogue,

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread Ben Last
Or HTML5, which is a viable option on the iPad. The bigger issue might be with some of the hardwired limits on the size of all images used (our guys working on the iPad testing of the NearMap site have been coming up against this). Cheers b On Saturday, August 21, 2010, Andrew Ayre

[OSM-talk] [Off] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Andrew Ayre schrieb: Sadly flash won't work on the iPad. Greetings from Steve Jobs. ;-( That's what I don't like at the Apple things: one single man decides what is running on your machine or not. But that's a political discussion which basically does not belong to this list. Sorry,

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread Robert Scott
On Saturday 21 August 2010, Ben Last wrote: Or HTML5, which is a viable option on the iPad. The bigger issue might be with some of the hardwired limits on the size of all images used (our guys working on the iPad testing of the NearMap site have been coming up against this). Cheers With

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread David Fawcett
The Mapzen iPhone app does a pretty good job of it. When you start to set a point, a pin marker appears. On Aug 20, 2010, at 2:12 PM, bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote: hi I keep thinking an editing app for the 3G / wifi iPad would be awesome. It's always on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 7:42 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/20 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com: You're being too literal with worship part of place_of_worship. We have highway=steps and stairways are definitely not highways. Amenity=place_of_worship

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
The landuse=religious seems like a good compromise. Landuse=institutional seems a bit too generic, as there are so many different types of institutions. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship From :mailto:sea...@gmail.com Date :Fri Aug 20 21:38:06

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I'm not sure in other jurisdictions, but in government land use maps I've seen, there is usually an institutional land use category. Maybe for the land use planning purposes of the government, it doesn't make sense to differentiate the different types of institutions. In OSM, I guess we could

Re: [Talk-it] R: Navit on Windows CE

2010-08-20 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il 20 agosto 2010 02:53, hob...@interfree.it ha scritto: Bene vedo che un passo alla volta stiamo riuscendo a far funzionare Navit per quel che puo' anche sul nostro C250... |Ho risolto il crash di Navit. Non aveva a che fare con le mappe; ho |cambiato la GUI da internal a win32 e tutto e'

Re: [Talk-it] R: Navit on Windows CE

2010-08-20 Thread Stefano Cavallari
On Friday 20 August 2010 09:49:23 Simone Saviolo wrote: Inizialmente avevo pensato di crearmi tante mappe piccole (tipo 50 km di lato) e di attivarle-disattivarle secondo necessità, pensando che la lentezza fosse proporzionale al numero di oggetti da renderizzare... ma poi ho pensato che

[Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread Simone Cortesi
il DB sarà offline la mattina del 24 per manutenzione programmata. ottima occasione per mettere le mani alla wiki italiana :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 16:29 Subject: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance

[Talk-it] Dubbi su Aree di Servizio in autostrada

2010-08-20 Thread Fabio Lambertini
Controllando i progetti della comunità italiana, ho visto quello sulle autostrade. Avevo così iniziato a taggare alcune aree di servizio presso le quali mi sono fermato di recente. Ho però alcune domande, e stavo cercando anche esempi di aree di servizio già taggate completamente da prendere come

Re: [Talk-it] R: Navit on Windows CE

2010-08-20 Thread Stefano Cavallari
On Friday 20 August 2010 15:46:24 Davide gobbi wrote: [...] - Navit pur se lento in fase di navigazione dei menù è molto reattivo in fase operativa. Il ricalcolo del percorso è piuttosto veloce. Nota negativa: la mappa non scorre mantenendo la posizione corrente al centro dello schermo ma

[Talk-it] Parcheggi lato strada: parking:lane

2010-08-20 Thread Alessio Zanol
Se è vero che non si mappa per il rendering, è anche vero che un rendering mi stimola decisamente a mappare determinate cose più di nicchia. Anche se a dir il vero di nicchia non sono perchè i parcheggi a lato strada li trovo abbastanza fondamentali. http://parking.openstreetmap.de

Re: [Talk-it] Dubbi su Aree di Servizio in autostrada

2010-08-20 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il 20 agosto 2010 17:12, Fabio Lambertini prettyvisit...@gmx.com ha scritto: Controllando i progetti della comunità italiana, ho visto quello sulle autostrade. Avevo così iniziato a taggare alcune aree di servizio presso le quali mi sono fermato di recente. Ho però alcune domande, e stavo

Re: [Talk-it] R: Navit on Windows CE

2010-08-20 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il 20 agosto 2010 02:53, hob...@interfree.it ha scritto: |Ma il problema pia' grosso e' un altro... non va il GPS! Ho provato |sia con wince:com2: sia con wince:GPD1:, ma in nessun caso Navit ha |preso la posizione dal GPS... o almeno credo - in ogni caso, la |mappa non si muoveva

[Talk-it] riserve

2010-08-20 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Da qualche mesi è apparsa una pagina sul mondo delle riserve. Se avete delle connoscenze come le riserve sono strutturate in Italia, mi farebbe piacere se lo aggiungerete qualcosa per l'Italia là: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area Non tratta solo di natura ma anche

Re: [Talk-it] riserve

2010-08-20 Thread Davide Ferri
Per quelle naturali della regione piemonte i dati (wms e shape) sono qui: http://gis.csi.it/parchi/datigeo_ap.htm non ho la minima idea se possono essere importati in osm, dal sito non è molto chiara la licenza per quei dati. Davide 2010/8/21 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Da

Re: [talk-ph] request for testing 10m contour for garmin (was Re: Groundtruth.)

2010-08-20 Thread Axel Kollmorgen
On 2010-07-28 20:31, maning sambale wrote: Anyone interested to test this? 10m contour interval for Garmin devices. Download the link below (~200 MB): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/607635/osm-ph_gps_maps/10mcontour_ph_winmapsource_latest.exe i would like to test this, but the file doesn't seem to

[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread maning sambale
FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:29 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org, annou...@openstreetmap.org OSM, Please copy this to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

2010-08-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Anthony, Anthony wrote: I think that the people count more than the data they contribute. That's a good statement. I'm happy that you have finally come to understand what this project is about! I was beginning to think you might just be here for the fun of the argument, whatever argument it

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

2010-08-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Andrzej, andrzej zaborowski wrote: So 300 mappers' work is not something we should make a fuss about? Let's put it this way: If 300 mappers are enough to put in a veto against the CT or the license change then we can stop right now, because I am pretty sure that *whatever* you do (even if

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

2010-08-20 Thread Simon Ward
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 08:03:37AM +1000, John Smith wrote: On 20 August 2010 07:57, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: They can use the data the same as anyone can. My believe in share alike long predates CloudMade and OpenStreetMap. I think most problems currently with the CT is because

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

2010-08-20 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Anyway, the number of people who have submitted nearmap changesets is 121, the total number of people who haved edited in Australia is 2752; so while NearMap-affected data may be up to 10% of Australia, NearMap-using

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

2010-08-20 Thread Francis Davey
On 20 August 2010 09:21, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: So you *need* CT in which the contributor basically signs over his data to OSMF who then make a database from it. Has anyone given much thought to how this works for the sui generis database right of the European Union? In other

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

2010-08-20 Thread John Smith
On 20 August 2010 18:21, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: In my eyes the ODbL and CT are part and parcel and I refer to both as the license change. I don't think that you can separate them. Is that because you don't think people will swallow the CTs unless they are a package deal? The

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

2010-08-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, John Smith wrote: In my eyes the ODbL and CT are part and parcel and I refer to both as the license change. I don't think that you can separate them. Is that because you don't think people will swallow the CTs unless they are a package deal? No, my statement above is not politically or

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

2010-08-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Francis Davey wrote: Has anyone given much thought to how this works for the sui generis database right of the European Union? Certainly the EU hasn't, the whole database right is written for a world where company X pays employees to gather data. I am wondering (as others have

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

2010-08-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, John Smith wrote: (Not, of course, this particular version of the CT, if that's what you're Exactly... you are trying to sell us a particular happy meal that isn't making us happy... us being...? And I'm not trying to sell anything. If you agree that some for of CT is required, and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

2010-08-20 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: My apologies. In that case: My main problem is that we're having this discussion now, when the CT were finalised in June, instead of before that. Which discussion? It looks to me like we did have this discussion before

[OSM-legal-talk] It's a shame

2010-08-20 Thread Nick Hocking
Next week I will be visiting the Adelaide Hills (South Australia) and was planning to resurvey Mt Barker in order to add the street names to a lot of roads that have not yet had them tagged. However to do so at this stage would be pointless since eithe of two of the three previous editors could

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

2010-08-20 Thread Liz
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, andrzej zaborowski wrote: Hi, On 20 August 2010 03:09, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: one million objects is really not something we should make a big fuss about. [...] After the Haiti earthquake, 1 million objects were traced by 300 people in two weeks.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] It's a shame

2010-08-20 Thread John Smith
On 20 August 2010 21:30, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: It is for this reason that I believe clause 3 of the CT is essential. This current situation must not be allowed to happen again. The problem is the scope of section 3, not it's existence.

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Veerponten (ferry)

2010-08-20 Thread Peter de Bruin
In ieder geval route = ferry 'ferry = yes' is geen approved feature. Op 15 augustus 2010 15:46 schreef ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl het volgende: Welke tags gebruiken we voor de veerponten ihk ondermeer de fietsrelaties ferry = yes Betaald/Onbetaald

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Schaeferbrug aangepast door mvexel

2010-08-20 Thread Martijn van Exel
Ja, ter verduidelijking: toen ik net op OSM keek zag ik dat de Schaeferbrug weg was. Mijn eerste reactie was: dat klopt niet, ik weet dat daar een brug is. Toen ging het me dagen: het middendeel van die brug is tijdelijk verwijderd voor Sail! De kaart klopt dus met de werkelijkheid van nu. Gaaf!

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Schaeferbrug aangepast door mvexel

2010-08-20 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
ik vind dit wel de betere oplossing. je wilt niet dat iedereen die nu kaartjes uitprint ze volgende week al niet meer kan gebruiken. we gaan toch ook niet alle wegwerkzaamheden in de kaart verwerken? als extra info zou het wel handig zijn. gister toen ik daar onder de bewust brug stond, was er

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