Evo ažurirao wiki, pa vidite koje nam karte trebaju, ja ih mogu plotati na
faksu. Toliko od mene, vidimo se sutra.
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Stižem i ja. Imam auto, u njemu ženu i dijete i hulkov gps. Dolazim u 10 kod
dvorane Pešćenica, javite mi ako sam fulao mjesto ili vrijeme. Ispričavam se
na kasnom javljanju, do sad nisam znao hoću li doći. Na žalost, mogu ostati
samo do 11, pa ću u tih sat vremena probati napraviti koliko mogu.
Hi all,
(Apologies if this is the wrong list - still getting my head around
them all. Or this has been discussed extensively, please point me at
it)...
I'm doing a lot of mapping of pedestrian and bike paths around my
area, and am having trouble deciding when to use path, when footway,
and when
Le samedi 28 novembre 2009, Steve Bennett a écrit :
1) In the parks near me, there are lots of paths, which I guess were
probably intended for pedestrians, but cyclists use them too.
Sometimes paved, sometimes not. I've been tagging them highway=path,
bicycle=yes (to be safe).
If you use
2009/11/28 Konrad Skeri kon...@skeri.com:
They could be put as fee=prepaid/metered/unmetered
Perhaps not optimal, but not entierly wrong.
metering=prepaid/metered/unmetered
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On Sat, 28 Nov 2009, John Smith wrote:
2009/11/28 Konrad Skeri kon...@skeri.com:
They could be put as fee=prepaid/metered/unmetered
Perhaps not optimal, but not entierly wrong.
metering=prepaid/metered/unmetered
??
charging=prepaid/metered/unmetered
Using areas seems like a lot of work for no benefit if you just need a
simple 2 lane road that has no foot paths or other interesting
features.
Are you saying that you wouldn't find mapping areas satisfying? If so,
that's fine - you don't have to.
But for people who want to do it, they
Hello people,
I would've sent this to osmosis-talk@, but we only have osmosis-dev@ there
:) -- sorry if this might be slightly OT here.
I'm trying to create small dumps following some administrative borders. For
example, starting from the Italy planet, I'd like to create dumps of regions
and
highway=path
foot=yes
bicycle=no
mtb=yes
highway=footway implies foot=designated and highway=cycleway implies
bicycle=designated.
foot=yes means you can walk there while designated means it's the
primary choise of route for pedestrians.
See also http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness
Steve
This is a big topic that has been very extensively discussed in this group
(and elsewhere). There is quite a range of opinion and, perhaps inevitably,
to some extent the opinions reflect (a) whether mappers see themselves
primarily as walkers, cyclists or ... mappers! and (b) the
I'm doing a lot of mapping of pedestrian and bike paths around my
area, and am having trouble deciding when to use path, when footway,
and when cycleway. I'm particularly troubled by the way Potlatch
describes path as unofficial path - making it sound like an
unpaved line of footprints carved
Thanks all, these are very good replies. I'll have to ponder for a
bit. One complication that I should perhaps have mentioned is at the
moment I'm doing a lot of the mapping based on NearMap aerial maps, so
I can't actually observe local practice to see what's going on. Which
is why I'm inferring
Steve Bennett wrote:
Instinctively, I want to tag it a cycleway...but there's absolutely
nothing to justify that. Nowhere will you see any primacy given to
cycling over walking. Conundrum.
highway=cycleway doesn't mean cycles have priority. It just means it's
intended for pedestrian and cycle
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Richard Fairhurst
rich...@systemed.net wrote:
highway=footway - a path intended for pedestrian use
highway=cycleway - a path intended for pedestrian and cycle use
highway=bridleway - a path intended for pedestrian and horse use[1]
Boy, I like this way of
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net wrote:
For renderers:
* nearly all maps exaggerate road width except when really zoomed in. A
30-35 metre wide motorway would appear almost insignificant at z levels less
than 10 or 12 - but this is precisely the opposite
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net wrote:
In summary, I have no problem with people mapping everything as areas;
however, I believe for the moment we will have to use both areas and ways.
If you're going to use an area and a way, don't tag them both with
I am in the process of learning how to use JOSM to transform a GPS trace into a
way, and have a question about how to mark a footpath that passes under a
highway bridge. As I understand the conventions, placing a node at this
crossing point would imply that they connect to each other, which is
So, ground level is level 0? I had wondered about that, as the scanty
documentation that I have seen didn't make that point clear.
--
John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com
Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to
think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria
On 28/11/2009 14:01, John F. Eldredge wrote:
So, ground level is level 0? I had wondered about that, as the
scanty documentation that I have seen didn't make that point clear.
well, it is the *default* level and the levels are relative. As with all
things OSM, as there is no rigid spec,
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe I missed the crucial bit, but presumably any area=yes highway
has an implicit line running down the middle of it. The renderer would
use that line at lower zoom levels exactly as it uses any other line.
That kind
The footway/cycleway/path choas is the one of the biggest drawbacks of OSM.
Here's my approach:
- A footway is a mostly paved way in a city. It's a way which was mostly
built by an authority. You can walk on it safely in high heels.
- A path is a narrow way, which is mostly not paved and was not
Underwater bicycling, the next Olympic sport...
---Original Email---
Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...
From :stevag...@gmail.com
Date :Sat Nov 28 08:24:57 America/Chicago 2009
(Australian bias showing, I'm unable to conceive of the idea of
cycling from one
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, since I'm new here,
You're new here? Welcome to OSM.
I'll ask the obvious question: does it matter
whether this stuff is done the same across different countries? Is it
not ok if cycleway has slightly different
On Saturday 28 November 2009 14:37:12 Steve Bennett wrote:
Next question: how popular is this viewpoint? Is this a minority way
of thinking?
It was the only viewpoint before highway=path was invented. Now it is one of
several competing viewpoints without a clear winner.
--
m.v.g.,
Cartinus
I have a couple of thoughts:
1) Re: connecting paths across small grass areas - don't mark a path
where there isn't one, and especially don't do it for the purpose of
trying to make routers work better. Map reality - that will always
work best in the long term. (just my personal preference)
2)
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote:
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason's diary entry last week (http://j.mp/8ESP8o)
stired my interest. Using a few examples, he showed how mapping
everything as an area - or as a volume - makes ultimate sense. Should we
go for it now
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009, Roy Wallace wrote:
I would strongly recommend reading the wiki carefully and using that.
but Roy, the wiki is written by committee and it is a good example of the
failure of the committee process
the minority
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a couple of thoughts:
1) Re: connecting paths across small grass areas - don't mark a path
where there isn't one, and especially don't do it for the purpose of
trying to make routers work better. Map reality -
Hi!
Roy Wallace schrieb:
The newbie reading these conflicting responses either 1) becomes
confused, or 2) begins to think that best practice is to invent your
own meaning for existing tags and then pass this secret knowledge on
to only the newbies who ask via email. This is not a good
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
When is there a path and when is there not a path? I walk through an
area of grass every time I go to the park near my house. Isn't that a
path which is part of reality?
An area of grass is - to me - not a path. A path, IMHO,
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote:
So if consistency is the goal, you cannot rely on various personal
opinions that exist only in people's minds and in email discussions
from time to time (which no doubt only a small proportion of mappers
ever read). You must write
On Sunday 29 November 2009 01:34:19 Nop wrote:
2) AFAIK the only attempt at a neutral display of the different opinions
is here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Consolidation_footway_cycleway_path
That page is far from neutral, because the only solutions it offers are doing
something with
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
When is there a path and when is there not a path? I walk through an
area of grass every time I go to the park near my house. Isn't that a
path which is
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
An area of grass is - to me - not a path.
Never? Or just not generally?
I'll rephrase. The following, IMHO, are not sufficient reasons to tag
an area of grass as a path: 1) you walk on it; 2) you think it would
help routing.
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
The following, IMHO, are not sufficient reasons to tag
an area of grass as a path: 1) you walk on it; 2) you think it would
help routing. Analogy: 1) Just because you sit on something, that
doesn't make it a chair; 2)
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, and if you like highway=grass, use that!
I like highway=path.
With surface=grass, of course!
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Hi,
Is there a POI for boards that are usually at the entrance of residential
localities showing the streets/names and plot numbers - like you-are-here
ones?
(a POI on a map showing where the map is :p)
Could not locate it in the wiki.
Thanks,
Vikas
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
And what about JOSM? So far I've just been using Potlatch because it
just works. What do I have to do to get Nearmap going in JOSM?
As Leon said, first go to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#JOSM. I
Great, saves me putting together the patch. Basically did the same, and it's
been working great.
The only other thing was to increased the max cache setting size from 999Mb to
Mb in PreferencesDialog.ui. Even though the largest cache size so far has
been 800Mb still thought 999Mb maybe
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org wrote:
In an earlier thread someone spoke about aligning the tiles to a known point
when using JOSM. Is this possible with Merkaartor? I haven't noticed any
tiles that needed aligning once the nearmap tiles were corrected for
Fala Arlindo.
Tô dentro.
Com certeza vou precisar de informações de como começar no OSM.
Como podemos nos comunicar? Já conhece o Googlewave? Tenho ainda 7 convites,
se precisar...
Abç
Fernando.
Message: 4
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:18:01 -0200
From: Arlindo Pereira nig...@nighto.net
Claudius schrieb:
Weinachtswunsch für JOSM: Wenn man mit dem Mauszeiger das kleine
Abbiegeschildchen anklickt sollten die beteiligten Straßen
hervorgehoben werden. ;-)
Nikolauswunsch zurück: Damit die JOSM-Entwickler von deinem Wunsch
wissen bitte hier ein entsprechendes Ticket erstellen:
On Saturday 28 Nov 2009 12:27:37 pm H.S.Rai wrote:
I did.
I read somewhere (but could not any instant in OSMI file) for not equal
to.
In case of auto, you use
(amenity=taxi and vehicle = autorick) and autorick= meter for automet.png
(amenity=taxi and vehicle = autorick) and [autorick
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:
there is also a 'select' tag
That's why I requested following in my one of previous email.
... making a small How to do it will enable others to contribute.
or link to specific and brief tutorial, if it is already
In an effort to produce printout of good quality map with data we
collected during gillMapping, I was able produce .svg map using
osmarender, that looks good on screen. See gill.png from:
http://gndec.ac.in/~hsrai/gillMapping/tmp/
or try gill.svg in Inkscape
The pdf produced by printing from
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:
On Tuesday 24 Nov 2009 6:29:42 am H.S.Rai wrote:
Event coverage by media:
snip
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2009/20091124/punjab.htm#13
Story reported by TV channel: PTC News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxwCsJbd2RI
Il 27/11/2009 21:56, David Paleino ha scritto:
ed eventualmente piazzarci anche più di un vhost (una
cosa che mi viene al volo: piote).
+1! La versione web, ovviamente. Non vedo l'ora di provarla.
Il nome è quindi definitivo?
Ciao!
Carlo
--
.' `. | Registered Linux User #443882
Carlo Stemberger wrote:
Il 27/11/2009 21:56, David Paleino ha scritto:
ed eventualmente piazzarci anche più di un vhost (una
cosa che mi viene al volo: piote).
+1! La versione web, ovviamente. Non vedo l'ora di provarla.
Qualcuno l'ha già provata ;)
Al momento gira sul mio pc, l'hanno
2009/11/27 Luigi Toscano luigi.tosc...@tiscali.it
ale_z...@libero.it wrote:
'ref' per indicare le linee che si ci fermano (es.: ref: 48; 480; 482)
Perché ref per le linee? Ref è un codice identificativo, a Catania l'ho
usato per il codice della fermata (alcune - poche - fermate hanno un
Il 27 novembre 2009 08.38, albertobonati albertobon...@libero.it ha scritto:
albertobonati ha scritto:
Premesso che il nuovo portale italiano del wiki mi poace moltissimo,
Felice che ti piaccia :D
credo
ci starebbe bene un accesso diretto ed evidenziato (magari con icona
grafica) oltre che
Den 27. nov. 2009 17.43 skrev Rasmus Vendelboe
r.vendelboe+...@gmail.comr.vendelboe%2b...@gmail.com
:
- Jeg anser det som en vigtig del vi får fastslået, at cykelstien har en
kantsten og altså er en seperat vej, der følger en hovedvej. Hvordan vi får
det gjort ordentligt synes jeg bør
Hej!
Hej Niels,
Så er råberiet i den grad tilbage på listen... Du er sgu en svær en at finde
ud af. Jeg troede lige, du havde lyttet lidt på listen. Det var åbenbart
igen en taktisk udmelding...
Nej, output fra din favorit-render er stadig ikke noget, vi andre bekymrer
os voldsomt om. Derimod
On 28/11/2009, at 18.32, Niels Beck wrote:
4. Danmarkskortet vil i det store og hele være uden synlige
cykelstier bortset fra dem
der er tegnet af GPS-folket der har været på tur i skov og på slette!
Det er forkert.
Du har gentaget denne påstand mange gange. Det er forkert.
-- Morten
Niels Beck nielsb...@gmail.com wrote:
Nej så enkelt er det ikke! Det er i orden med at rulle mine lanes
tilbage, fint nok! Men jeg er ikke enig i de opstillede regler for
cykelstier i Danmark!
1. Der er rundt om i landet en del cykelstier, deer dermed ikke vil
være gangbarer ifølge den
Bonjour,
Le 28 novembre 2009 08:39, Jean-Francois Nifenecker
jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net a écrit :
Une autre amélioration (mais sans doute compliquée à apporter) : l'index
des noms de rues n'est pas celui attendu. Une Rue Paul Verlaine se
trouve sous P (libellé Paul Verlaine
Yann Coupin a écrit :
Juste pour dissiper tout malentendu : je n’ai pas tracé ce rond-point.
Je l’ai juste vu (et cliqué sur faux-positif) lors d’une « soirée
osmose » où j’ai fait le ménage dans une zone près de chez moi. Je n’ai
d’ailleurs jamais mis les pieds à cet endroit. J’ai
2009/11/28 Sylvie slvper...@gmail.com:
Le classement alphabétique sur le prénom est tout à fait normal, confirmé
par l'usage et les règles typographiques. C'est même pour conserver
facilement cet ordre que l'on trouve souvent des tirets dans les listes de
noms de rues (Rue Paul-Verlaine).
Les
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:07:36AM +0100, Etienne Chové wrote:
Art Penteur a écrit :
Et le usually sous-entend des exceptions, mais qui ne sont pas détaillées.
Si quelqu'un en a, je suis preneur... mais comme c'est pas documenté.
Je ne pense pas qu'il soit possible d'avoir un rond-point en
Le 28 novembre 2009 14:25, Pieren pier...@gmail.com a écrit :
2009/11/28 Sylvie slvper...@gmail.com:
Le classement alphabétique sur le prénom est tout à fait normal, confirmé
par l'usage et les règles typographiques. C'est même pour conserver
facilement cet ordre que l'on trouve souvent
Je rencontre des petits rond-points. Ce sont des anciens rond-points
franchissables où la municipalité a rajouter des gros pots de fleurs
(diamètre 2 m) pour que les gens ne coupent plus de façon systématique
le carrefour. On n'est plus en highway=mini_roundabout mais c'est un
peu petit
2009/11/28 Eric Sibert courr...@eric.sibert.fr:
Je rencontre des petits rond-points. Ce sont des anciens rond-points
franchissables où la municipalité a rajouter des gros pots de fleurs
(diamètre 2 m) pour que les gens ne coupent plus de façon systématique
le carrefour. On n'est plus en
Bonjour,
Sylvie a écrit :
Une référence en la matière (malheureusement pas trouvée sur la toile) :
Lexique des /règles typographiques/ en usage à l'/Imprimerie nationale/
J'ai ce bouquin qui est effectivement fort utile pour qui s'intéresse à
la qualité de ses productions écrites.
Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit :
Bonjour,
Sylvie a écrit :
Une référence en la matière (malheureusement pas trouvée sur la toile) :
Lexique des /règles typographiques/ en usage à l'/Imprimerie nationale/
J'ai ce bouquin qui est effectivement fort utile pour qui s'intéresse à
la
2009/11/28 Eric Sibert courr...@eric.sibert.fr:
De mémoire non. Mais à Madagascar, le vol de panneaux de signalisation
est courant.
Eric
Ah, cool. Il faudrait envoyer quelques malgaches ici pour s'occuper de
nos radars automatiques ;-)
Moi, je dirais :
pas de terre-plein
Petit apparté : Pour les fans, le bouquin en question (cité par Sylvie)
s'achète 13€ environ chez
Decitrehttp://www.decitre.fr/livres/Lexique-des-regles-typographiques-en-usage-a-l-Imprimerie-Nationale.aspx/9782743304829
:
*Lexique des règles typographiques en usage à l'Imprimerie Nationale *
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Bonsoir à toutes et à tous, qui contribué à faire de notre monde, un monde
libre.
[b]Petite présentation rapide de ma part[/b]
Nom : vous pouvez m\'appeler Hashi/Pascal/Pasikaer.
Métier : Rédacteur technique.
Localisation : Lorient (N : 47°45.394\' / O :
Super, a
marche nickel, merci beaucoup.
Ccile
Pieren a crit:
2009/11/27 Ccile Bothorel cecile.botho...@telecom-bretagne.eu:
Salut Pieren,
Je viens d'essayer le plugin sur la commune de Frhel (22240), non
vectorise, en Lambert 4 zones (zone 1 car on est sur une latitude de 48,6),
Christian Rogel a écrit :
Comme Jean-François, mon constat, depuis le temps que je consulte des
plans (et ça fait un paquet d'année), est que le classement au nom de
famille était l'usage incontesté, suivant en celà l'usage des éditeurs,
des libraires et des bibliothécaires. Ce n'est que,
Bonjour,
Le Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:54:46 +0100,
David MENTRE dmen...@linux-france.org a écrit :
Le 27 novembre 2009 18:34, piratebab pirate...@hotmail.com a écrit :
j'ai un gros problème avec mapsomatic, et je n'ai pas reçu de
réponse au mail que je leur ai envoyé.
Bizarre, on essaye de
Le Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:39:48 +0100,
Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net a
écrit :
Une autre amélioration (mais sans doute compliquée à apporter) :
l'index des noms de rues n'est pas celui attendu. Une Rue Paul
Verlaine se trouve sous P (libellé Paul Verlaine (Rue))
日本経緯度原点、というのがあるんですよね。
この地点に行って、自分のGARMINで平均値測量したら、ちゃんと 35.6581N
139.7413E と表示するのかなぁ、、、というのが興味深いところ(いや、そう表
示するはず...そうでないとある意味困る)なのですが、なかなかそこまで足が伸
びなくて。
OSM japan では、日本経緯度原点はまだ入力されていませんが、その周辺ブロッ
クがマッピングされていることに気付きまして、そこから相対的にこの辺の位
置、というのを割り出して、座標を読み取ってみると、だいたいピッタリあって
いるみたいで、なかなかよいな、という感触です。
Actually, i was wondering with the context of the mission statement.
(but thats fine, if thats needed to define that the US is)
OSM's job is to map it all, and list what local people call it.
Might i recommend adding a mandate to:
Maintain ensure quality with the USA community specific
Chris, great start!
My .02 on the issue of territories, protectorates, etc.issue is that
we don't need to limit the organization's mapping mandate to the US.
I'd say the goal of US OSM is the same as the goal of OSM in general,
which is to map the entire world.
One other bullet point would be
On 11/28/09 11:35 AM, Richard Welty wrote:
...
is this group to be
1) an organization of US based mappers
or
2) an organization devoted to mapping the US
i had thought it was to be 1), and would naturally tend to mostly be
about 2), but there's
no reason to write that restriction into
Hi,
Kate Chapman wrote:
I could see for example U.S. based people being interested in mapping
international locations as the humanitarian mappers do and want to
join the respective chapters of those countries.
I have organisational knowledge of two other international non-profits
with
All,
My first instinct (although it might not be the best one) is to follow
previous practice from other chapters. So I just quickly looked it up on
the wiki, leading me to the Australian chapter's draft mission statement.
It appears they do not mention country of residency as a criterion (after
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:
Frederik,
That makes sense to me. I just wasn't sure if there were issues we had not
though about. Americans abroad for example. Would we discourage them from
becoming members of a U.S. chapter? Though I agree that those
I'd hope the mission statement of any chapter would reflect the OSMF
mission. In my judgment the key phrases to replicate are:
3.1 OpenStreetMap Foundation is dedicated to encouraging the growth,
development and distribution of free geospatial data and to providing
geospatial data for anybody to
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