On 17 July 2010 10:27, Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote:
I’m probably missing something again… Please explain how you will not be
able to make an informed decision once the license question has been put
to contributors.
I will, but at that point I will no longer have any chances to
exercise
On 16/07/10 14:03, TimSC wrote:
James Livingston wrote:
/ Although, as Simon Ward said Everyone has a say on whether their contributions
can be licensed under the new license., I am uncomfortable with the ODbL process and I
resent not being polled before the license change was decided. OSMF
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Simon Ward wrote:
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 07:07:19AM +1000, Liz wrote:
- There is no tool yet to see the impact of the relicensing to the data.
But this is the key need for those who are rather interested in the data
than the legalese. Please develop the tool first or
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 04:55:36PM +1000, Liz wrote:
just to make it clear, I'm not the author, I forwarded a mail by
Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de
My apologies. I didn’t mean to mis‐quote.
Simon
--
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a
simple
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Chris Fleming m...@chrisfleming.org wrote:
Although the intent of ODBl is to provide the protections we thought we
were getting with CC-BY-SA; if we were to go to something *completely*
different then I can image these discussions getting *really* nasty.
On 07/17/2010 04:04 AM, Diane Peters wrote:
The assertion above, that Science Commons seems to think that
copyright doesn't apply to databases, is not correct.
I am sorry for misrepresenting SC's views on this.
One other point worth mentioning, this one in response to another
suggestion
On 07/16/2010 09:58 PM, Liz wrote:
After a recent High Court decision, in Australia copyright is not applicable
to databases. Maps were not included in the Court decision, but a database was
the subject of the case.
If this is the case then given that the CC licences are copyright
licences
On 17 July 2010 18:34, Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de wrote:
I saw anywhere in the deeps of discussion at legal, that also
the new licence does not protect data in australia ...? Mmmmh ...
No, someone was claiming cc-by licenses we're valid in Australia, as a
reason to change to ODBL, if that
On 17 July 2010 20:11, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote:
If this is the case then given that the CC licences are copyright licences
what would they apply to in the OSM database in Australia?
The court case in question was over facts, dates and times and show
names, IceTV who instigated this
John Smith schrieb:
On 17 July 2010 18:34, Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de wrote:
I saw anywhere in the deeps of discussion at legal, that also
the new licence does not protect data in australia ...? Mmmmh ...
No, someone was claiming cc-by licenses we're valid in Australia, as a
reason to
On 17 July 2010 21:57, Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de wrote:
Did I misunderstood the posting below because of not perfect english?
I was thinking about a different email, however it's the same case but
has the wrong interpretation as to the scope.
On 17 July 2010 22:04, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 July 2010 21:57, Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de wrote:
Did I misunderstood the posting below because of not perfect english?
I was thinking about a different email, however it's the same case but
has the wrong
On 07/17/2010 12:30 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 17 July 2010 20:11, Rob Myersr...@robmyers.org wrote:
If this is the case then given that the CC licences are copyright licences
what would they apply to in the OSM database in Australia?
The court case in question was over facts, dates and times
On 18 July 2010 00:53, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote:
There has been discussion in the past about how creative the various
levels of OSM are (my personal opinion is raw data:not, edited and combined
ways:possibly, rendered maps:definitely). The outcome wasn't to rely on
creativity. ;-)
On 07/17/2010 04:01 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 18 July 2010 00:53, Rob Myersr...@robmyers.org wrote:
There has been discussion in the past about how creative the various
levels of OSM are (my personal opinion is raw data:not, edited and combined
ways:possibly, rendered maps:definitely). The
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote:
On 07/17/2010 12:30 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 17 July 2010 20:11, Rob Myersr...@robmyers.org wrote:
If this is the case then given that the CC licences are copyright
licences
what would they apply to in the OSM database in
On 07/17/2010 04:13 PM, 80n wrote:
What's your source for the assertion that we shouldn't rely on creativity?
I didn't assert that we *shouldn't*.
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On 18 July 2010 06:23, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote:
On 07/17/2010 04:13 PM, 80n wrote:
What's your source for the assertion that we shouldn't rely on creativity?
I didn't assert that we *shouldn't*.
You implied one or more people made that claim, what was their
reasoning for this?
Hi,
here's an interesting one.
Suppose OSM has just changed its license to ODbL. A final CC-BY-SA
planet has been released, non-relicensed data has been removed from the
servers, and the project is again humming along nicely (relief!).
Now I would like to make a slippy map overlay where
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
here's an interesting one.
Suppose OSM has just changed its license to ODbL. A final CC-BY-SA planet
has been released, non-relicensed data has been removed from the servers,
and the project is again humming
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
Frederik posts many wonderful hypothetical situations. ;-)
Here's a completely hypothetical situation. What if I want to import OSM
POIs into Wikipedia. Wikipedia is, of course, under CC-BY-SA.
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
The user is looking at
produced works, ccbysa for the ccbysa tiles, your choice for the ODbL
tiles.
Here's another completely hypothetical situation. What if I use CC-BY-SA
for the ODbL tiles. And then someone else
On 17/07/2010, at 4:12 AM, Simon Ward wrote:
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:01:08PM +1000, James Livingston wrote:
* It also uses contract law, which makes things a *lot* more complicated
Despite my strong bias towards copyleft, I thought this was a problem
with the license. Unfortunately
On 17/07/2010, at 4:58 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
I noticed something that had escaped my attention until now. The
contributor terms say that OSMF will release the data under ODbL 1.0,
CC-BY-SA 2.0 or another free and open license accepted by 2/3 of active
members.
Notice the absence of
On 17/07/2010, at 6:34 PM, Heiko Jacobs wrote:
Michael Barabanov schrieb:
Consider two cases:
1. Current license does not cover the OSM data (I think that's the OSMF
view). In this case, OSMF can just change to ODBL without asking anyone.
2. Current license does cover the OSM data.
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote:
On 07/17/2010 04:13 PM, 80n wrote:
What's your source for the assertion that we shouldn't rely on creativity?
I didn't assert that we *shouldn't*.
I know you didn't. But somebody did.
What's your source for the
On 18 July 2010 15:18, Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net wrote:
On 15/07/10 14:34, John Smith wrote:
How many governments can change a constitution without less than 50%
voting,
Of the people?
The US and the EU, to name but two.
When did EU member nations agree to become a country?
On 17 July 2010 13:07, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com wrote:
Consider two cases:
1. Current license does not cover the OSM data (I think that's the OSMF
view). In this case, OSMF can just change to ODBL without asking anyone.
2. Current license does cover the OSM data. Then
Hi,
John Smith wrote:
On 17 July 2010 13:07, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com wrote:
Consider two cases:
1. Current license does not cover the OSM data (I think that's the OSMF
view). In this case, OSMF can just change to ODBL without asking anyone.
2. Current license does
Thanks for the explanation. BTW, I think pirate is quite an overstatement
in this context. The proposed license is still a free/open license. Plus I
kind of suspect that most contributors care about potential data loss more
than CC license vs ODBL license, but I may be wrong. Still, let me
Hi,
Michael Barabanov wrote:
1. OSMF does change the license without any regard; people who are
against ODBL get pissed off and stop contributing (lost for OSM?). No
data loss from the database.
2. OSMF does not do that; contributions of people who are against ODBL
are deleted, people who
Michael Barabanov schrieb:
Consider two cases:
1. Current license does not cover the OSM data (I think that's the OSMF
view). In this case, OSMF can just change to ODBL without asking anyone.
2. Current license does cover the OSM data. Then there's no need to change.
Where's the issue?
Tobias Knerr schrieb:
Loss of data is the primary concern about the license change for quite a
lot of mappers. Dealing with their worries is worth the delay.
+1
After reading ODbL I would say yes, OSM should change licence,
but after reading the process proposed for changing licence
including
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
John Smith wrote:
On 17 July 2010 13:07, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com
wrote:
Consider two cases:
1. Current license does not cover the OSM data (I think that's the OSMF
view). In this
On 17 July 2010 18:34, Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de wrote:
I saw anywhere in the deeps of discussion at legal, that also
the new licence does not protect data in australia ...? Mmmmh ...
No, someone was claiming cc-by licenses we're valid in Australia, as a
reason to change to ODBL, if that
I also tried to contact this user, but he ignores messages.
Here's another example of vandalism in a totally different region:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/735097523
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On 17 July 2010 21:57, Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de wrote:
Did I misunderstood the posting below because of not perfect english?
I was thinking about a different email, however it's the same case but
has the wrong interpretation as to the scope.
On 17 July 2010 22:04, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 July 2010 21:57, Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de wrote:
Did I misunderstood the posting below because of not perfect english?
I was thinking about a different email, however it's the same case but
has the wrong
Hi,
Aleksandr Dezhin wrote:
I also tried to contact this user, but he ignores messages.
Anthony has posted on the 13rd. Today is the 17th. The user has last
been active on the 11th. Is it possible that he ignores messages because
he's away from the computer?
Has anyone actually contacted
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:59:45 +1000
Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
Whilst it's very usable for regional and remote areas for which there is no
data. There is no justification for joining making admin
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
For a long time we assumed that the current license did indeed work, and we
essentially told everyone who signed up that their data was protected.
And what does it mean for the data to be protected?
It doesn't mean
As I know Anthony (one_half_3544) tried to contact this user on July 8
[1]. I tried on July 13
If we look at last activity of the user, we see that it not only adds
a fictitious objects, but also removes the valid data:
July 11:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5190263
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
We now know that anybody, at least in most jurisdictions and if he has a
decent-sized legal budget and has not respect for ethics (i.e. is
sufficiently evil), can effectively use our data as if it were unprotected.
In
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
John Smith wrote:
On 17 July 2010 13:07, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com
wrote:
Consider two cases:
1. Current license does not cover the OSM data (I think that's the OSMF
view). In this
Hi,
80n wrote:
We have never said to any contributors that their data is protected.
The only stipulation OSM ever made was that contributors had to agree to
license their data in a certain way before they were allowed to upload
it.
If we have really never said nor implied that our
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:45, Antony Pegg anttheli...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
As requested last week, the MapQuest Mapnik style is available on GitHub,
at:
http://github.com/MapQuest/MapQuest-Mapnik-Style
Its under an MIT license
This is great, it's really nice to see you guys being
1. OSMF does change the license without any regard; people who are against
ODBL get pissed off and stop contributing (lost for OSM?). No data loss from
the database.
2. OSMF does not do that; contributions of people who are against ODBL are
deleted, people who are against ODBL stop
A poll could be something like: Would you find a it acceptable if OSMF
relicensed the whole dataset to ODBL without any data loss. If nothing
else, that'd give an idea of how people feel about licensing vs data itself.
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
On 17 Jul 2010, at 2:05 , Heiko Jacobs wrote:
I cannot accept a process with loss of data.
If there is a loss of data I will leave OSM.
there is no loss of data! It has always been said that the old data will remain
available under the old license.
The only possibility to avoid loss of
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.comwrote:
On 17 Jul 2010, at 2:05 , Heiko Jacobs wrote:
I cannot accept a process with loss of data.
If there is a loss of data I will leave OSM.
there is no loss of data! It has always been said that the old data
Hi,
Michael Barabanov wrote:
A poll could be something like: Would you find a it acceptable if OSMF
relicensed the whole dataset to ODBL without any data loss.
It should really be Would you find it acceptable if OSMF relicensed the
whole dataset to ODbL without asking for consent from
Hi,
80n wrote:
Indeed, we've been suffering from this license-twiddling induced stasis
for far too long now. That's why I've proposed that the LWG/OSMF
achieve a clear and undeniable mandate by September 1st or just drop the
whole thing. We can't afford to let this cancer continue eating
According to what was announced when the news about the proposed new license
terms came out, any data that originated with someone who doesn't agree with
the new license will be removed from the database, meaning that any subsequent
edits to that data will be removed as well, even if the
Apollinaris Schoell schrieb:
On 17 Jul 2010, at 2:05 , Heiko Jacobs wrote:
I cannot accept a process with loss of data.
If there is a loss of data I will leave OSM.
there is no loss of data! It has always been said that the
old data will remain available under the old license.
This
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
there is no loss of data! It has always been said that the old data will
remain available under the old license.
If you take somewhere between one third and one quarter of the data for a well
defined area and lock it up from further edits on OSM
Dear all
As part of my Master's project at Queen Mary, University of London, I'm
looking for participants to take part in a game centred on wayfinding
challenges in urban audio maps.
The game should take no longer than 20 minutes to complete and there
will be a prize draw with a total of
Someone gave a lightening talk at sotm about using Spatiallite with osm.
Can the speaker please contact me off-list?
Thanks,
- Serge
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Ross Scanlon wrote:
Have a look at the Murray River, the correct state boundary is the
southern bank but someone has changed parts of the river to be the admin
boundary so when the map is drawn from the data the river appears in the
wrong place. The same happens with
On 18 July 2010 09:49, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
The original Murray River trace was either made by swampwallaby using vmap or
by a few of us tracing from Landsat.
The only surveyed points then would have been bridges and bridge piers.
Ross' problem was that the Murray River is using ABS
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
Someone gave a lightening talk at sotm about using Spatiallite with osm.
Can the speaker please contact me off-list?
I remember that Andrii spoke of several NoSQL DBs, was spatiallite one of them
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:49:41 +1000
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
The original Murray River trace was either made by swampwallaby using vmap or
by a few of us tracing from Landsat.
The only surveyed points then would have been bridges and bridge piers.
So the admin boundary, which is
No, I'm not talking about Andril's talk. There was someone who had
created a small app using Spatialite and a GTK frontend during the
conference.
- Serge
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On 18 July 2010 12:10, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
The admin boundaries don't get moved with road/railway realignment and
therefore without change from the original source we should not be moving
them. So if they are not connected to railways/roads etc then errors will
not be
On 18 July 2010 04:53, Esther Loeliger ec09...@eecs.qmul.ac.uk wrote:
To play the game, please download the installer from
https://sourceforge.net/projects/team/. It should install without problems
on Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 (32-bit and 64-bit).
Ahh windoze.. Sorry I use free
Ha allemaal!
Op de veiling van State Of The Map heb ik een pakket van 11 lichtgevende hesjes
in verschillende maten bemachtigd met een OpenStreetMap-logo en 'SURVEYOR'
erop. Ideaal om bij je te hebben als je een mapping party organiseert. Op deze
foto
Hoi allemaal,
Ik heb een begin gemaakt met een lijst van Spullen die beschikbaar is voor
gebruik voor PR-doeleinden, mapping parties en andere publieke evenementen.
Heb je ook OSM-gerelateerde Spullen die te gebruiken zijn voor die doeleinden -
flyers, posters, gadgets of wat ook - voeg ze dan
Er is zo langzamerhand geen lol meer aan, dat openstreetmap. Die
servers zijn momenteel zo wanstaltig traag, ik ben meer tijd bezig met
het wachten tot ik eindelijk kan beginnen/doorgaan met verwerken dan
met het verwerken zelf. Waarschuwen jullie me als dit probleem is
opgelost, zodat ik weer kan
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Andre Engels wrote:
Er is zo langzamerhand geen lol meer aan, dat openstreetmap. Die
servers zijn momenteel zo wanstaltig traag, ik ben meer tijd bezig met
het wachten tot ik eindelijk kan beginnen/doorgaan met verwerken dan
met het verwerken zelf. Waarschuwen jullie me als
Ronald wrote:
Ik heb een vraag over postkantoren.
De situatie in Nederland verandert en de postkantoren verdwijnen.
Daarvoor in de plaats komt dat bij gewone winkels een afdeling is waar men
postzaken kan afhandelen (net zoals op het platteland van Canada en de V.S.
Hoe mappen we dat?
De
Even voor de duidelijkheid: ik draag op de betreffende foto gewoon m'n eigen
shirt Ivan Sanchez Ortega (links) draagt het betreffende hesje...
Gr,
Henk
Op 17 juli 2010 11:05 schreef Martijn van Exel mve...@gmail.com het
volgende:
Ha allemaal!
Op de veiling van State Of The Map heb ik een
Verdraaid! Inderdaad :) Er was ook zoveel oranje die dag!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nataliedowne/4786252024/in/photostream/
Martijn
Martijn van Exel +++ m...@rtijn.org
Laziness – Impatience – Hubris
http://schaaltreinen.nl
twitter: mvexel
skype: mvexel
flickr: rhodes
On Jul 17, 2010, at
On 18 July 2010 09:49, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
The original Murray River trace was either made by swampwallaby using vmap or
by a few of us tracing from Landsat.
The only surveyed points then would have been bridges and bridge piers.
Ross' problem was that the Murray River is using ABS
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:49:41 +1000
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
The original Murray River trace was either made by swampwallaby using vmap or
by a few of us tracing from Landsat.
The only surveyed points then would have been bridges and bridge piers.
So the admin boundary, which is
On 18 July 2010 12:10, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
The admin boundaries don't get moved with road/railway realignment and
therefore without change from the original source we should not be moving
them. So if they are not connected to railways/roads etc then errors will
not be
On 18 July 2010 12:33, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
always, but this is the exception and without reading a ton of legal
precedents.
and without reading a ton of legal precedents and other documentation
on boundaries we'd only be left guessing, or doing what we do now,
leaving it
Am 17.07.2010 um 02:08 schrieb Sven Geggus:
Ich möchte für eine Karte mit Spezial POI Adressen auch anzeigen wenn
nur addr:housenumber erfasst wurde.
Das könnte auch für eine OSM-Navigation interessant sein. Denn nicht immer ist
vollständig getaggt.
Die Straße rauszufinden ist noch relativ
Am 16. Juli 2010 16:17 schrieb Fips Schneider o...@fips-schneider.de:
Als Beispiel seien hier kleine Dörfer genannt, die so wenig Häuser haben, dass
die Häuser durchnummeriert sind (gibts das überhaupt noch in DE? Ich kenne nur
einen Fall, wo das bis vor etwa 10 Jahre in AT noch so war).
On 07/17/2010 09:38 AM, Martin Simon wrote:
Eine andere Erweiterung, die ich gerne sehen würde, ist eine
Gebäudenummer, die unterhalb der Grundstücksnummer(Hausnummer)
rangiert und oft (immer?) vom Eigentümer oder Betreiber selbst
vergeben wird.
Beispiel:
Der gesamte Campus hat die Hausnummer
Am 17. Juli 2010 09:48 schrieb Hartmut Holzgraefe hart...@php.net:
On 07/17/2010 09:38 AM, Martin Simon wrote:
Eine andere Erweiterung, die ich gerne sehen würde, ist eine
Gebäudenummer, die unterhalb der Grundstücksnummer(Hausnummer)
rangiert und oft (immer?) vom Eigentümer oder Betreiber
Am 16.07.2010 20:26, schrieb Falk Zscheile:
Die Idee, auf den Stand zurückzusetzen dem alle user zugestimmt haben,
mag gut gedacht sein. Dies alles an die History eines Elements zu
binden halte ich für falsch. Die History ist aus dem eben genannten
Gründen nicht geeignet auf den Urheber zu
Am 16.07.2010 20:01, schrieb Manuel Reimer:
Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote:
[Nur nehmen, nichts zurückgeben]
Und was wäre daran so schlimm? OSM schadet das doch nicht?
Es bringt aber auch keinen Vorteil. Letztlich gewinnt hier nur der
Unternehmer, der dadurch nur zeigt, dass er das zugrundeliegende
Am 16.07.2010 22:05, schrieb Sebastian Hohmann:
Frederik Ramm schrieb:
(Das ist ja das Schicksal des PD-Anhaengers: Jeder kann jederzeit
meine PD-Daten nehmen und irgendwelche Restriktionen obendrauf setzen
- das ist jemand, der fuer PD ist, also schon gewohnt.)
Nur dass es mir wenig nützt
Am 17.07.2010 01:36, Daniela Duerbeck:
Aber wenn man sich mal den tagwatch so anschaut:
http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/ignored_cuisine.html
findet man wirklich eine Menge Blödsinn.
cuisine=gutbürgerlich mag ja richtig sein, aber das findet doch niemand.
Man braucht ja ein Gerät, das das
Am 16.07.2010 21:05, schrieb Heiko Jacobs:
Frederik Ramm schrieb:
sondern auch, weil sie das Vertrauen der Community moechte,
Du redest immer von Vertauen und Respekt, aber leider ist das
alles sehr einseitig und alles andere als auf Ausgleich bedacht.
Mein Vertrauen hat sie jedenfalls
Hallo Dirk,
[Nur nehmen, nichts zurückgeben]
Und was wäre daran so schlimm? OSM schadet das doch nicht?
Jede Verbreitung von OSM nützt OSM:
Das Projekt wird bekannter, es gibt mehr Nutzer, und vielleicht mehr
Aktive (Mapper, Programmierer, Spender). Spiralige Entwicklung.
Kommerzieller
Hallo Manuel.
Am Freitag 16 Juli 2010, 20:01:00 schrieb Manuel Reimer:
Würde mir das genau so passieren, dann wäre ich ganz zu Recht ziemlich
sauer. Würde mir aber nicht passieren, da ich meine Projekte GPLv3
lizenziere und bei PD-Projekten üblicherweise nicht mithelfe.
[...]
Ich finde es
Dirk-Lüder Kreie schrieb:
Am 16.07.2010 22:05, schrieb Sebastian Hohmann:
Frederik Ramm schrieb:
(Das ist ja das Schicksal des PD-Anhaengers: Jeder kann jederzeit
meine PD-Daten nehmen und irgendwelche Restriktionen obendrauf setzen
- das ist jemand, der fuer PD ist, also schon gewohnt.)
2010/7/17 Dirk-Lüder Kreie osm-l...@deelkar.net:
Am 16.07.2010 20:26, schrieb Falk Zscheile:
Die Idee, auf den Stand zurückzusetzen dem alle user zugestimmt haben,
mag gut gedacht sein. Dies alles an die History eines Elements zu
binden halte ich für falsch. Die History ist aus dem eben
Das in die Relation nur eine Straße hereinkommt ist Schwachsinn. Ich
trage auch mehrere Straßen in die Relation ein und zumindest Nominatim
kommt damit klar (siehe
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/454381). Womit wieder
einmal belegt ist, dass nicht alles was im Wiki steht auch so
Gehling Marc wrote:
Frederik Ramm schrieb:
Als *Mapper* kann ich mir vorstellen, dass ich sogar einen gewissen
Spass daran haben werde, die Luecken zu schliessen, die moeglicherweise
durch den Lizenzwechsel entstanden sind.
Ich bin dafür, alle drei Monate zufällig 10% der Daten
steffterra steffte...@me.com wrote:
Was machst Du bei Gebäuden / Nodes mit addr:housenumber an Straßenkreuzungen?
Im Extremfall die falsche Straße erraten. Funktionierende Glaskugeln sind
AFAIK noch nicht erfunden worden.
Nun möchte ich aber gerne auch PLZ und Hausnummer rausfinden. Hat da
Am Samstag 17 Juli 2010, 02:08:14 schrieb Sven Geggus:
Nun möchte ich aber gerne auch PLZ und Hausnummer rausfinden.
Welche Daten würdest du dafür benutzen wollen?
Es gibt Orte mit mehreren PLZ und PLZ die für mehrere Orte gelten. Für keinen
der beiden Fälle kenne ich auch nur ein Beispiel dass
Am 17.07.2010 um 12:27 schrieb Tilmann Sult:
Das in die Relation nur eine Straße hereinkommt ist Schwachsinn.
k.a., aber ...
Ich
trage auch mehrere Straßen in die Relation ein und zumindest Nominatim
kommt damit klar (siehe
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/454381).
... Du
Am 17.07.2010 um 13:10 schrieb Sven Geggus:
steffterra steffte...@me.com wrote:
Was machst Du bei Gebäuden / Nodes mit addr:housenumber an Straßenkreuzungen?
Im Extremfall die falsche Straße erraten. Funktionierende Glaskugeln sind
AFAIK noch nicht erfunden worden.
Eben, deshalb halte
Dirk-Lüder Kreie schrieb:
Am 16.07.2010 21:05, schrieb Heiko Jacobs:
Frederik Ramm schrieb:
sondern auch, weil sie das Vertrauen der Community moechte,
Du redest immer von Vertauen und Respekt, aber leider ist das
alles sehr einseitig und alles andere als auf Ausgleich bedacht.
Mein Vertrauen
On 17.07.2010 11:47, Sebastian Hohmann wrote:
Wenn ich jemanden meine Daten geben und sagen das steht unter der CC0,
dann darf er sie natürlich beliebig lizenzieren, auch ohne sie vorher zu
veröffentlichen. Nur möchte ich meine Beiträge schließlich der
Allgemeinheit zur Verfügung stellen,nicht
Michael Buege glaubte zu wissen:
Zitat Florian Lohoff:
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:47:55PM +0200, Michael Buege wrote:
Hat er auch gesagt, welcher Art diese versicherungstechnischen Bedenken
der Verlage waren? Ich kann mir gut vorstellen, dass kein Verlag eine
Garantie abgeben wollte, dass
Frederik Ramm glaubte zu wissen:
unter help.openstreetmap.org gibt es jetzt eine Webseite, auf der
jeder irgendwelche Fragen eingeben kann oder die Fragen anderer
beantworten.
Ich kann mich mit meinen OSM- Userdaten nicht anmelden
(auf Groß- und Kleinschreibung hab ich geachtet).
Weder
Am 17. Juli 2010 13:49 schrieb Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de:
Dirk-Lüder Kreie schrieb:
Am 16.07.2010 21:05, schrieb Heiko Jacobs:
Frederik Ramm schrieb:
sondern auch, weil sie das Vertrauen der Community moechte,
Du redest immer von Vertauen und Respekt, aber leider ist das
alles
Falk Zscheile wrote:
2010/7/17 Dirk-Lüder Kreie osm-l...@deelkar.net:
Das bisherig geplante Vorgehen finde ich nach wie vor höchst
unbefriedigend. Es benachteiligt alle jüngeren Edits an einem Element
unverhältnismäßig. Man sollte die Effekte in jedem Fall an einem
Planspiel untersuchen
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