Re: [Talk-hr] Napokon pravi routing!

2010-08-27 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:55:34 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: Treba naći neki mail na koji se mogu slati bugovi.. Janko Poslao sam im mail, javim kada dođe odgovor. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf,

[Talk-hr] OpenStreetMap LinuxZaSve Forum

2010-08-27 Thread Valent Turkovic
http://www.linuxzasve.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=45start=0 Šokac je otvorio podforum za OpenStreetMap na www.linuxzasve.com forumu. Eto još jedan kanal za komunikaciju. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality,

Re: [Talk-hr] Prenoćišta i sobe

2010-08-27 Thread Ivan Biuklija
Valent Turkovic na grupi gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.region.hr izmedju ostalog kaze: Izgleda da neki isto mapiraju za renderer pa ga označe kao hotel :( Primjer: http://osm.org/go/0KJw2oml1-- S jedne strane kužim zašto to rade, prilično je važan fičer na karti, ali bed_and_breakfast tag je

Re: [Talk-hr] oznacavanje uskih ulica

2010-08-27 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:29:58 +0200, Matija Nalis wrote: Ima li ovaj prijedlog smisla? Vecinom, osim sto bi onaj footway bez gradacije se trebao crtatati kao i do sada (vidi gore dio koji sam spominjao sa promjenom defaulta i nervozom ljudi), isto kao i grade = 2. Dakle prijedlog bi bio

Re: [Talk-hr] OSM vs AdriaTOPO 1.00 LITE

2010-08-27 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:48:20 +0200, hbogner wrote: danas je slozena skripta koja ce svaki dan generirati ne samo rutabilnu kartu hrvatske Nisi rekao kakvu kartu? Prvo sam pretpostavio da pričaš o online karti no vidim da si dao linkove na neke datoteke. Možeš pojasniti o čemu je riječ, možda

Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7

2010-08-27 Thread maning sambale
Can you see the fixme roads? Look around Baguio City: http://osm.org/go/4zebrdPJ-- raceway and fixme roads have a similar setting, visible only at resolution/zoom 22 and is not routable. If yes, I don't understand why you can't see the raceways. Anyway, I modified the style to add names to the

[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Garmin Recalling 1, 250, 000 Units Over Fire Hazard

2010-08-27 Thread maning sambale
FYI for Garmin users. AFAIK, these are mostly with the nuvi product lines. Forwarded conversation Subject: [OSM-talk] Garmin Recalling 1,250,000 Units Over Fire Hazard From: john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:24 PM To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms review

2010-08-27 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 09:54:04AM +0200, Lars Aronsson wrote: This is true, but it's also true that what OSM wants is to have something as similar as possible to GPL, but applied to maps. I dont - Am i OSM? Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Compatibility of new license with old

2010-08-27 Thread Rob Myers
On 08/27/2010 04:43 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello, I would like to know if the new license is compatible with the old one. will we be able to use CC-SA-2.0 licensed data or we will have to get new contracts with the donators of data? for example, we have gotten much of the

[OSM-talk] Tagging Scheme Recommendations: highway=path, footway, trail?

2010-08-27 Thread Lauri Kytömaa
It's not detailled enough. A path is too narrow for a 4 wheels vehicle like a car but not for a 2 wheels vehicle like a moped or a motorbike (or no While that is often true, the criteria goes the other way: - if the way is too narrow to fit a car (hey, my summer car is only 1.48 m wide) or a

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Scheme Recommendations: highway=path, footway, trail?

2010-08-27 Thread Konrad Skeri
Snowmobiles (http://www.google.se/images?q=snowmobile) have a total trackwith of about 1 m, so they are definitely narrower than cars. Konrad 2010/8/26 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: [...] I don't know if snowmobiles are narrower than cars. [...]

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread edodd
On 27 August 2010 10:04, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: The way I understand it, a culvert is just a tiny pseudo-bridge, physically equivalent to a tunnel under an embankment. Culverts don't show up in the US National Bridge Inventory, which is a database of bridges on public

[OSM-talk] topomaps (was Re: Culvert and average contributor)

2010-08-27 Thread Cartinus
On Friday 27 August 2010 05:34:00 John F. Eldredge wrote: That is, indeed, a highly detailed map, but since it doesn't show elevation contours (or at least not any visible at maximum zoom from my phone's browser), it would not be classified as a topographical map.  By definition, a

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Pieren
It seems that culvert=yes is ambiguous. It can be a ford or applied on the road. I'm also in favour to replace culvert=yes by tunnel=culvert, bridge=culvert or ford=culvert It has also the advantage of simplifying the tag management in applications (can just handle tunnel=* or bridge=* or ford=*).

Re: [OSM-talk] What's wrong with this multipolygon?

2010-08-27 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Willi wil...@gmx.de wrote: On 27. August 2010 09:10 Nathan Edgars II [nerou...@gmail.com]wrote http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1141252 Mapnik has no problems with it, but Osmarender won't fill the northern part correctly. (It's not a delay in

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Liz-11 wrote: to complicate matters, a culvert may cut through a road in rural australia, making a small ford I'm not sure what you mean by this. A culvert is a (usually) concrete structure, topologically a cylinder, that one way (usually water) goes through and the other goes over. --

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/27 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com: So tunnel=culvert :) I liked the definition given here that a tunnel would be bigger and accessible for humans why a culvert would be smaller and just a kind of tube. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/26 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: Question 2 : if not, is it normal that OSM average contributor has to use these technical words just to make the civil engineers happy ? Don't we take the risk to exclude more and more average contributors by adopting such technical vocabular ? There is a

Re: [OSM-talk] What's wrong with this multipolygon?

2010-08-27 Thread Willi
On 27. August 2010 09:10 Nathan Edgars II [nerou...@gmail.com]wrote http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1141252 Mapnik has no problems with it, but Osmarender won't fill the northern part correctly. (It's not a delay in rendering; I added the swamps after creating the multipolygon.)

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:03 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Of course this can also be an advantage and be solved by subtagging. I'm forwarding the discussion on the next mailing list. is that okay if I modify the wiki page and suggest to use tunney=culvert (and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: is that okay if I modify the wiki page and suggest to use tunnel=culvert (and ford=culvert / bridge=culvert) instead of the ambivalent culvert=yes ? I'd like to know what ford=culvert means first.

Re: [OSM-talk] What's wrong with this multipolygon?

2010-08-27 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Willi-2 wrote: To describe a boundary you can use (change the current relation to) Relation:boundary which isn't filled with a color: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:boundary. I know how to map a boundary, and this isn't one. It's a semi-planned mostly-residential suburban

[OSM-talk] Garmin Recalling 1,250,000 Units Over Fire Hazard

2010-08-27 Thread john whelan
Details here, I don't think its the hand held variety but better to check and be safe. Cut and paste this link into your browser rather than click on it to reduce the risk of landing somewhere nasty. http://www.tomsguide.com/us/fire-burn-hazard-warning-nuvi,news-7867.html Thanks John

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Cartinus
On Friday 27 August 2010 12:50:39 Pieren wrote: I'm forwarding the discussion on the next mailing list. is that okay if I modify the wiki page and suggest to use tunney=culvert (and ford=culvert / bridge=culvert)  instead of the ambivalent culvert=yes ? It seems it is only ambivalent to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin Recalling 1,250,000 Units Over Fire Hazard

2010-08-27 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:24:00 -0400, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Details here, I don't think its the hand held variety but better to check and be safe. Cut and paste this link into your browser rather than click on it to reduce the risk of landing somewhere nasty.

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: The seventy people who used the tag did not have a problem with understanding what they did. bridge=culvert is nonsense: A culvert is not a bridge. Again, I'm not a native english speaker but It seems that culvert is also

Re: [OSM-talk] topomaps (was Re: Culvert and average contributor)

2010-08-27 Thread edodd
On Friday 27 August 2010 05:34:00 John F. Eldredge wrote: That is, indeed, a highly detailed map, but since it doesn't show elevation contours (or at least not any visible at maximum zoom from my phone's browser), it would not be classified as a topographical map.  By definition, a

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread edodd
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: is that okay if I modify the wiki page and suggest to use tunnel=culvert (and ford=culvert / bridge=culvert) instead of the ambivalent culvert=yes ? I'd like to know what ford=culvert means first.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:55 AM, ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: is that okay if I modify the wiki page and suggest to use tunnel=culvert (and ford=culvert / bridge=culvert) instead of the ambivalent culvert=yes ? I'd like to know

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 27 August 2010 13:55, ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: is that okay if I modify the wiki page and suggest to use tunnel=culvert (and ford=culvert / bridge=culvert) instead of the ambivalent culvert=yes ? I'd like to know

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread edodd
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:55 AM, ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: is that okay if I modify the wiki page and suggest to use tunnel=culvert (and ford=culvert / bridge=culvert) instead of the ambivalent culvert=yes ? I'd like to know

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread edodd
Sorry, I should have photographed one I passed this morning, complete with water. I am sure there will be other opportunities to take that photo. Emilie Laffray rain has been pretty rare in the last 10 years, so only twice since then have I seen the water in the little culverts

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread edodd
ford=culvert is even more insane. There is either a ford or a culvert. It's physically impossible to be both at the same time. I said like a ford in the first place. To me the ford crosses a natural waterway, and the culvert is not a natural waterway.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:17 AM, ed...@billiau.net wrote: In a town which does not have underground storm water management, the gutters at the side of the roads have to cross one of the roads at an intersection so you have a half-elliptical shaped culvert which traffic crosses, making a

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 27/08/2010 14:17, ed...@billiau.net wrote: In a town which does not have underground storm water management, the gutters at the side of the roads have to cross one of the roads at an intersection so you have a half-elliptical shaped culvert which traffic crosses, making a little ford. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Scheme Recommendations: highway=path, footway, trail?

2010-08-27 Thread Robert Kaiser
Pieren schrieb: a 2 wheels vehicle like a moped or a motorbike (or no wheels like a snowmobile ;-). Who says that a snowmobile doesn't have wheels? http://home.kairo.at/?d=gi=449m=ff.i=22196 (at the right - and yes, Elvis was crazy for wanting to drive a snowmobile in Memphis) ;-) Sorry, I

[OSM-talk] US College/University building polygons

2010-08-27 Thread Pat Collins
Hi all, I'm searching for a resource that has the polygons of the buildings of each large college and university in the United States. I've done a lot of googling and have found that some local municipalities (a few counties) have this data, but have not found any resources that have it on a

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote: If the vehicle travels through the water, it's a ford, not a culvert -- the water is passing *over* the road, not under it. So, let say that when it is uncovered, it's either a ditch or a ford or whatever

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/27 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: My proposal is to change the wiki to tunnel=culvert (then forget the bridge/ford). +1, fine for me. Tag it on the waterway-way. If there is a bridge over it, or a ford etc., tag this on the road as usual. At least, this would make live easier for data

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Scheme Recommendations: highway=path, footway, trail?

2010-08-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/27 Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at: Who says that a snowmobile doesn't have wheels? http://home.kairo.at/?d=gi=449m=ff.i=22196 (at the right - and yes, yes, you can find all kind of weirdos, but generally they don't look like this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1951B12a.jpg

[OSM-legal-talk] Licensing not politics: What was liberal is now conservative

2010-08-27 Thread Richard Weait
Simon Phipps discusses the licensing of Sun RPC since ~1984, and how what was a permissive, generous license then, is now restrictive. http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/08/gnulinux-finally-free-software/index.htm ___ legal-talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Pieren pieren3 at gmail.com writes: It seems that culvert=yes is ambiguous. It can be a ford or applied on the road. I'm also in favour to replace culvert=yes by tunnel=culvert, bridge=culvert or ford=culvertIt has also the advantage of simplifying the tag management in applications (can just

[OSM-talk] click-your-route wanted

2010-08-27 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. I have to do some tests for navigation and search for a good solution to create my route files. Changing the format of a file to my target format is simple, but it's really difficult to get the route. It would be perfect if there is an application where I can draw a route by hand,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Compatibility of new license with old

2010-08-27 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 27 August 2010 10:28, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 08/27/2010 04:43 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: I would like to know if the new license is compatible with the old one. will we be able to use CC-SA-2.0 licensed data or we will have to get new contracts with the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/27 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: But nobody is replying to my suggestion : is it okay to replace culvert=yes but a tunnel=culvert (or tunnel=sewel)(or bridge=culvert on the highway when it happens that the structure is directly used as a bridge) in the wiki ? I already replied:

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 27/08/2010 15:36, Pieren wrote: But nobody is replying to my suggestion : is it okay to replace culvert=yes but a tunnel=culvert (or tunnel=sewel)(or bridge=culvert on the highway when it happens that the structure is directly used as a bridge) in the wiki ? I believe it's been shown that

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Scheme Recommendations: highway=path, footway, trail?

2010-08-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:12 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Wouldn't that only be used on the section of the path that actually has the steps, however?  I am wondering how (or if) you would tag the entire path to indicate that you can, legally, use a bicycle or motorcycle on

Re: [OSM-talk] click-your-route wanted

2010-08-27 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Peter, I have made my own branch of YOURS for the Osm.org Routing Demo[1]. I fixed many issues. You can get a source tarball[2] from my site. [1]:

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: t seems that culvert=yes is ambiguous. It can be a ford or applied on the road. I'm also in favour to replace culvert=yes by tunnel=culvert, bridge=culvert or ford=culvert It has also the advantage of simplifying the tag management in applications (can just

Re: [OSM-talk] click-your-route wanted

2010-08-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Wendorff wrote: Everything I found yet either has no current data (YOURS - data is older than my edits I need), or not possible to install locally (YOURS fails due to issues I cannot solve at installing gosmore and partly php5 incompatibility). Have a look at Routino, it should

[OSM-talk] Directions API available on OSM data

2010-08-27 Thread antthelimey
FYI: http://blog.programmableweb.com/2010/08/24/new-mapquest-directions-api-built-on-open-data/ Our own blog post goes out Monday, but it looks like programmable web found the slides from SOTM US. Details on our developer network at

Re: [OSM-talk] Directions API available on OSM data

2010-08-27 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli
Ant, Do you know how often will the data be updated? Cheers, Julio Costa OpenStreetMap Chile http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:43 PM, anttheli...@gmail.com wrote: FYI: http://blog.programmableweb.com/2010/08/24/new-mapquest-directions-api-built-on-open-data/ Our own

Re: [OSM-talk] Directions API available on OSM data

2010-08-27 Thread Nic Roets
First you need to ask When will they support routing outside Europe / the UK ? On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: Ant, Do you know how often will the data be updated? Cheers, Julio Costa OpenStreetMap Chile

Re: [OSM-talk] Directions API available on OSM data

2010-08-27 Thread Mark Rebuck
You can can route in North America too, e.g. http://open.mapquestapi.com/directions/v0/route?from=40.54,-76.54to=40.54,-74.54 Also worth noting is last night's update to http://open.mapquest.co.uk/. We added support for a few new languages, preliminary support for dragable routes, scale bars

[OSM-talk] Greek cadastre authority - received a reply

2010-08-27 Thread Niklas Cholmkvist
Hi list, I got a response from geodata.gov.gr, in a private email (thus I can't publish it here, but a summary). There will be an announcement in the future, on osm mailing lists(if I interpreted the reply correctly). Also I am asked to be patient and not use the data in OSM, before there is an

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread edodd
On 27/08/2010 14:17, ed...@billiau.net wrote: In a town which does not have underground storm water management, the gutters at the side of the roads have to cross one of the roads at an intersection so you have a half-elliptical shaped culvert which traffic crosses, making a little ford.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/27 ed...@billiau.net: If you favourite search engine open-top culvert you will find the open variety. Will you now need another tag? actually yes, I probably would, because that proves IMHO that culvert is too generic. In German those would be a completely different word instead for

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread David Fawcett
I my experience with culverts and American English, they always have a top. The wikipedia article matches my experience: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culvert On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:51 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/27  ed...@billiau.net: If you favourite search

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Details ausblenden 23:13 (Vor 0 Minuten) 2010/8/27 David Fawcett david.fawc...@gmail.com: I my experience with culverts and American English, they always have a top. The wikipedia article matches my experience: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culvert yes, my first comments were mainly

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
I have seen the open-top culvert design on hiking trails, but did not know what it was called. I agree that these should be tagged differently from conventional culverts, as they are so different from what is usually meant by culvert. Otherwise, someone watching for a conventional pipe

Re: [OSM-talk] Directions API available on OSM data

2010-08-27 Thread antthelimey
We're working on both these items. First up will be getting the routing to daily updates - goal is ti have that solved within the month. Increased coverage will happen over time as we work through it - can't give you an official schedule or anything tho, right at this moment - hope you

Re: [OSM-talk] Directions API available on OSM data

2010-08-27 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:29 PM, anttheli...@gmail.com wrote: We're working on both these items. Delightful. Thank you Ant. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Directions API available on OSM data

2010-08-27 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli
Thank you Ant. On 27 August 2010 17:29, anttheli...@gmail.com wrote: We're working on both these items. First up will be getting the routing to daily updates - goal is ti have that solved within the month. Increased coverage will happen over time as we work through it - can't give you an

Re: [OSM-talk] What's wrong with this multipolygon?

2010-08-27 Thread Zeke Farwell
Nathan, I have run into similar issues with complicated multipolygons rendering just find in Mapnik but not fine in Osmarender. Another mapper (who's area I had temporarily broken) told me that the member ways of my relations were in the wrong order. At the time I primarily used Potlatch which

Re: [OSM-talk] What's wrong with this multipolygon?

2010-08-27 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Zeke Farwell ezeki...@gmail.com wrote: As you know, Mapnik will render multipolygons correctly as long as all the ways form complete rings and are tagged with outer and inner as needed, but it turns out that Osmarender also needs the ways making up each ring

[OSM-talk-nl] Highway=services of highway=service op ways van verzorgingsplaatsen?

2010-08-27 Thread Colin Smale
Gisteren heeft gebruiker xxx heel veel (alle?) wegen binnen de verzorgingsplaatsen aan de Nederlandse snelwegen omgetagd van highway=service naar highway=services. Gevolg is dat de wegen nu onzichtbaar zijn op de kaart, hoewel de eenrichtingspijltes er nog wel staan. Ik kan me ook voorstellen

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Highway=services of highway=service op ways van verzorgingsplaatsen?

2010-08-27 Thread Colin Smale
Edit: Gebruiker xxx was gebruiker RonGps. Iets te snel op Verzenden gedrukt! On 27/08/2010 13:57, Colin Smale wrote: Gisteren heeft gebruiker xxx heel veel (alle?) wegen binnen de verzorgingsplaatsen aan de Nederlandse snelwegen omgetagd van highway=service naar highway=services. Gevolg is

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Highway=services of highway=service o p ways van verzorgingsplaatsen?

2010-08-27 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:57:19 +0200, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Gisteren heeft gebruiker xxx heel veel (alle?) wegen binnen de verzorgingsplaatsen aan de Nederlandse snelwegen omgetagd van highway=service naar highway=services. Gevolg is dat de wegen nu onzichtbaar zijn op de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Highway=services of highway=service op ways van verzorgingsplaatsen?

2010-08-27 Thread Ben Laenen
Colin Smale wrote: Gisteren heeft gebruiker xxx heel veel (alle?) wegen binnen de verzorgingsplaatsen aan de Nederlandse snelwegen omgetagd van highway=service naar highway=services. Gevolg is dat de wegen nu onzichtbaar zijn op de kaart, hoewel de eenrichtingspijltes er nog wel staan. Ik

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Highway=services of highway=service op ways van verzorgingsplaatsen?

2010-08-27 Thread Lennard
On 27-8-2010 13:57, Colin Smale wrote: Mijn conclusie is dat deze omtagging waarschijnlijk beter ongedaan kan worden gemaakt. Wat vinden jullie? Hoe pak je zoiets aan? Deze drie changesets reverten, maar niet 100%. Er zitten ook enkele niet hieraan gerelateerde edits in deze drie

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Highway=services of highway=service op ways van verzorgingsplaatsen?

2010-08-27 Thread Lennard
On 27-8-2010 14:00, Colin Smale wrote: Edit: Gebruiker xxx was gebruiker RonGps. Iets te snel op Verzenden gedrukt! Heb je al contact met deze gebruiker opgenomen, om hem te wijzen op zijn misverstand wat betreft service/services, en om te vertellen dat we het terug zullen zetten? --

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Highway=services of highway=service op ways van verzorgingsplaatsen?

2010-08-27 Thread Lennard
On 27-8-2010 14:12, Maarten Deen wrote: De owner van keepright vragen om deze check te veranderen, en de changeset reverten. Als dat laatste niet mogelijk is dan is het denk ik ook niet zo lastig om alle ways met highway=services om te taggen.

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Highway=services of highway=service op ways van verzorgingsplaatsen?

2010-08-27 Thread Colin Smale
Ik heb inmiddels contact gehad met RonGps en hem verteld van de revert. Hij vindt de wiki-pagina's hierover enigszins onduidelijk, en ik ben het eigenlijk met hem eens. Ook heb ik gekeken naar de klachten van keepright bij deze constructies. Hoe komt het dat deze check er uberhaupt inzit?

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Highway=services of highway=service op ways van verzorgingsplaatsen?

2010-08-27 Thread Lennard
On 27-8-2010 19:33, Colin Smale wrote: Hij vindt de wiki-pagina's hierover enigszins onduidelijk, en ik ben het Onderaan highway=services staat heel duidelijk dat je het niet moet verwarren met highway=service. Je kunt discussiëren over de zo goed als identieke naamgeving, maar je kunt niet

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Highway=services of highway=service op ways van verzorgingsplaatsen?

2010-08-27 Thread Colin Smale
On 27/08/2010 19:56, Lennard wrote: On 27-8-2010 19:33, Colin Smale wrote: Hij vindt de wiki-pagina's hierover enigszins onduidelijk, en ik ben het Onderaan highway=services staat heel duidelijk dat je het niet moet verwarren met highway=service. Je kunt discussiëren over de zo goed als

[OSM-talk-nl] Startpunt lwn Wandelroute

2010-08-27 Thread robert
Zoals de meesten inmiddels wel weten, ben ik al enige tijd bezig om de Nederlandse wandelroute project in een stroomversnelling te brengen. Om de mogelijkheden van het verbeteren van de open wandelkaart te vergroten missen de lwn-relaties een belangrijk gegeven. In geen enkele lwn-relatie

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Startpunt lwn Wandelroute

2010-08-27 Thread Cartinus
On Friday 27 August 2010 22:36:32 rob...@elsenaar.info wrote: In geen   enkele lwn-relatie is te ontdekken waar je de wandeling kunt beginnen. Ik meen mij toch echt te herinneren dat ik de afgelopen weken een aantal maal bij een lwn een node in de relatie heb gestopt met als role start. ;) --

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Startpunt lwn Wandelroute

2010-08-27 Thread Ben Laenen
2010/8/27 rob...@elsenaar.info: Zoals de meesten inmiddels wel weten, ben ik al enige tijd bezig om de Nederlandse wandelroute project in een stroomversnelling te brengen. Om de mogelijkheden van het verbeteren van de open wandelkaart te vergroten missen de lwn-relaties een belangrijk

Re: [Talk-de] OpenStreetMap in großer Business-Zeitung

2010-08-27 Thread Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V.
s/Navdec/Navteq/g Am 27.08.2010 02:27, schrieb Wolfgang: Hallo, Am Donnerstag 26 August 2010 23:13:01 schrieb Pascal Neis: Hallo Wolfgang, Wolfgang schrieb: +10 Die gesamte Veröffentlichung ist einfach nur peinlich. Wer ungeprüft einem Datenbestand, egal von wem, Fehlerfreiheit

Re: [Talk-de] Sortieren von GPX-Segementen

2010-08-27 Thread André Joost
Am 26.08.10 21:05, schrieb Chris66: Am 26.08.2010 14:25, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Wenn man sich eine solche Datei ansieht wird man feststellen das diese immer aus unterschiedlich großen Segementen bestehen. Ich nehme mal an, du meinst das, was josm im GPX-Format speichert. Will man nun

Re: [Talk-de] Sortieren von GPX-Segementen

2010-08-27 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 27.08.2010 09:27, schrieb André Joost: Am 26.08.10 21:05, schrieb Chris66: Am 26.08.2010 14:25, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Wenn man sich eine solche Datei ansieht wird man feststellen das diese immer aus unterschiedlich großen Segementen bestehen. Ich nehme mal an, du meinst das, was josm

Re: [Talk-de] ?OpenStreetMap in großer Business-Zeit ung

2010-08-27 Thread Sven Geggus
Wolfgang wolfg...@ivkasogis.de wrote: Dass ausgerechnet das SW-Patent-verliebte Fraunholferinstitut seinen Namen da mit reinhängt, spricht für sich. _Das_ Fraunhoferinstitut gibt es nicht! Im Gegenteil die über 50 Institute sind dann doch sehr selbstständig. Das was die Birlinghofener hier

Re: [Talk-de] OpenStreetMap in großer Business-Zeitung

2010-08-27 Thread Sven Geggus
007 northc...@gmx.de wrote: Nach meiner Erfahrung, Vergleich der Teleatals und Navteq Daten mit den von mir in OSM erfassten Straßen schaut Navteq besser aus als teleatlas. teleatlas hat zum Teil richtig dicke Fehler drin die nichts mit Aktualität zu tun haben. Hatte nicht Yahoo Maps

Re: [Talk-de] OpenStreetMap in großer Business-Zeitung

2010-08-27 Thread Chris66
Am 27.08.2010 10:22, schrieb Sven Geggus: Hatte nicht Yahoo Maps Navteq Daten? Ja, siehe: http://de.maps.yahoo.com/ Und auch in meiner Gegend, ist Navteq aktueller als Teleatlas. Die Westumgehung Nordkirchen die seit ca. 3 Jahren existiert, ist dort aber auch noch nicht drin. Chris

Re: [Talk-de] OpenStreetMap in großer Business-Zeitung

2010-08-27 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Freitag 27 August 2010 09:48:45 schrieb 007: Nach meiner Erfahrung, Vergleich der Teleatals und Navteq Daten mit den von mir in OSM erfassten Straßen schaut Navteq besser aus als teleatlas. teleatlas hat zum Teil richtig dicke Fehler drin die nichts mit Aktualität zu tun haben.

Re: [Talk-de] ?OpenStreetMap in großer Business-Zeit ung

2010-08-27 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Freitag 27 August 2010 10:19:42 schrieb Sven Geggus: Wolfgang wolfg...@ivkasogis.de wrote: Dass ausgerechnet das SW-Patent-verliebte Fraunholferinstitut seinen Namen da mit reinhängt, spricht für sich. _Das_ Fraunhoferinstitut gibt es nicht! Im Gegenteil die über 50 Institute

Re: [Talk-de] ?OpenStreetMap in großer Business-Zeit ung

2010-08-27 Thread Sven Geggus
Wolfgang wolfg...@ivkasogis.de wrote: Vergleich des obigen Beispiels1 aus meinem vorherigen Posting, leider nur manuell möglich Warum? http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=47.76347lon=12.64547layers=B0TTFF 2 Postings weiter oben hab ich doch gerade geschrieben, dass Yahoo Navtec-Daten

Re: [Talk-de] ?OpenStreetMap in großer Business-Zeit ung

2010-08-27 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Freitag 27 August 2010 12:56:04 schrieb Sven Geggus: Wolfgang wolfg...@ivkasogis.de wrote: Vergleich des obigen Beispiels1 aus meinem vorherigen Posting, leider nur manuell möglich Warum? http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=47.76347lon=12.64547layers=B0TFFF FTFF 2

Re: [Talk-de] OpenStreetMap in großer Business-Zeitung

2010-08-27 Thread Thomas Reincke
Am 27.08.2010 02:27, schrieb Wolfgang: Ich bleibe bei meiner Meinung. Hier wurden lediglich Unterschiede zu Navdec festgestellt. Es wurde aber nicht untersucht, woher diese Unterschiede kamen. Pauschal davon auszugehen, dass Navdec richtiger ist, ist einfach lächerlich. Wie würde das Ergebnis

Re: [Talk-de] Navipowm 0.2.4.

2010-08-27 Thread Wolfgang Wienke
Hallo! Am 27.08.2010 00:43, schrieb dieter jasper: Am 26.08.2010 21:28, schrieb Wolfgang Wienke: Hallo! Ich bekomme das prog auf meinem PDA nicht in Gang, Fehler: keine gültige Anwendung für PocketPC Die ältere Version lief. Woran kann es liegen? Klinkt sehr danach, dass du für dein OS nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Navipowm 0.2.4.

2010-08-27 Thread André Joost
Am 27.08.10 13:56, schrieb Wolfgang Wienke: Hallo! Am 27.08.2010 00:43, schrieb dieter jasper: Am 26.08.2010 21:28, schrieb Wolfgang Wienke: Hallo! Ich bekomme das prog auf meinem PDA nicht in Gang, Fehler: keine gültige Anwendung für PocketPC Die ältere Version lief. Woran kann es liegen?

Re: [Talk-de] Navipowm 0.2.4.

2010-08-27 Thread Georg Feddern
Moin, Wolfgang Wienke schrieb: Hm, ich habe gerade festgestellt, ich hatte hier wohl die PC-Version. Ich findet aber die richtige Version für WindowsMobile nicht auf sourceforge.net. KannsD Du helfen? Auf http://sourceforge.net/projects/navipowm/files/ unten den Baum Browse Files for

Re: [Talk-de] Ideen Sammel, und organisieren eines CCBYSA 2.0 Forks

2010-08-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Felix Hartmann wrote: Ich hab mal hier ganz kurz ein paar Punkte hingeschrieben, die wir uns anschauen sollten, um einen Fork aufzusetzen Mittlerweile haben sich die internationalen Befuerworter eines Forks ein eigenes Forum gegeben: http://groups.google.com/group/osm-fork Offenbar

Re: [Talk-de] Ideen Sammel, und organisieren eines CCBYSA 2.0 Forks

2010-08-27 Thread Sven Geggus
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Offenbar geht es da nicht nur darum, die Daten zu nehmen und eine Kopie von OSM aufzusetzen, sondern man will bei der Gelegenheit auch gleich noch alles andere besser machen ;) Die geschichte von Forks in der freien Softwarewelt zeigt ja durchaus,

Re: [Talk-de] Ideen Sammel, und organisieren eines CCBYSA 2.0 Forks

2010-08-27 Thread Lars Francke
Offenbar geht es da nicht nur darum, die Daten zu nehmen und eine Kopie von OSM aufzusetzen, sondern man will bei der Gelegenheit auch gleich noch alles andere besser machen ;) Dinge, die ich beim kurzen stöbern gesehen habe: * Normalisierbares Tagging-Schema * Frontend Code (Ruby) durch ein

Re: [Talk-de] Ideen Sammel, und organisieren eines CCBYSA 2.0 Forks

2010-08-27 Thread Christian H. Bruhn
am Freitag, 27. August 2010 um 16:01 schrieben Sie: Da es sich bei OdBL um keine solche völlig induskutable Änderung sondern um einen brauchbaren Kompromiss handelt schließe ich diese Diskussion hier mal mit einem freundlichen So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish und bleibe weiterhin im

Re: [Talk-de] Navipowm 0.2.4.

2010-08-27 Thread Wolfgang Wienke
Hallo! Am 27.08.2010 14:23, schrieb Georg Feddern: Moin, Wolfgang Wienke schrieb: Hm, ich habe gerade festgestellt, ich hatte hier wohl die PC-Version. Ich findet aber die richtige Version für WindowsMobile nicht auf sourceforge.net. KannsD Du helfen? Auf

[Talk-de] ....ich bleib bei OSM !

2010-08-27 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 27.08.2010 17:07, schrieb Christian H. Bruhn: am Freitag, 27. August 2010 um 16:01 schrieben Sie: Da es sich bei OdBL um keine solche völlig induskutable Änderung sondern um einen brauchbaren Kompromiss handelt schließe ich diese Diskussion hier mal mit einem freundlichen So Long, and

Re: [Talk-de] Address-Routing (War: OpenStreetMap in gr oßer Business-Zeitung)

2010-08-27 Thread malenki
Chris66 schrieb: Ja, das Garmin Format ist halt noch nicht 100% entschlüsselt, aber der Trend geht ja meiner Meinung eh Richtung Smartphone mit OpenSource Software. Für die Außentür-Fraktion ist das verfügbare Angebot an wirklich nutzbaren Geräten vorerst beschränkt. Oder gibt es schon ein

Re: [Talk-de] ....ich bleib bei OSM !

2010-08-27 Thread Chris66
Am 27.08.2010 17:48, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: auch bleibe bei DEM freien Kartenwerk. Bei mir hängt's davon ab, wieviel Prozent der Daten nicht übernommen werden. Falls ich sehe, dass nur 80% oder so rüber kommen und ODBL-OSM nicht mehr richtig auf die Beine kommt, dann werde ich mich nach 'ner

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