[OSM-talk-nl] http://forum.openstreetmap.nl
Beste lezers, als ik probeer om de website:¨http://forum.openstreetmap.nl¨ te bekijken dan krijg ik de foutmelding ¨Server niet gevonden¨. Ik hoop dat iemand tijd kan vinden om naar dit probleem te kijken. overigens, op de website ¨http://www.openstreetmap.nl¨ staat rechts onder de titel forum.openstreetmap.nl een samenvatting. Deze wordt al enige maanden niet meer bijgewerkt. Ronald ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
[Talk-cz] Turistické trasy - zmatky v destinations=
Ahoj, upravoval jsem teď dvě turistické trasy a narazil na tag destinations=* Ve wiki [1] [2] je popsán jako: destinations (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:destinationsaction=editredlink=1) =významné;cíle;po;cestě ovšem taginfo [3] ukáže, že se docela často používá i zápis destinations (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:destinationsaction=editredlink=1) =významné - cíle - po - cestě případně destinations (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:destinationsaction=editredlink=1) =významné-cíle-po-cestě což možná vypadá pěkně, ale strojově se to moc zpracovávat nedá. Nabízí se tedy otázka co s tím? Normalizovat? Dle mapy na taginfo se to používá pouze u nás. Víte o nějakém projektu, který by to používal? [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Czech_Republic/Editing_ Standards_and_Conventions#Zna.C4.8Dky [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Czech_Republic/OTM_zna%C 4%8Dkov%C3%BD_kl%C3%AD%C4%8D [3] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/destinations#values Marián ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[OSM-talk-nl] Iets voor Koningsdag?
Iets om te ontwikkelen voor Koningsdag? https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/837 ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] http://forum.openstreetmap.nl
Als je op de individuele links naar de draadjes klikt, word je wel naar forum.openstreetmap.org gestuurd. mvg m 2015-04-21 8:35 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com: Bedoelt u misschien http://forum.openstreetmap.org ? Waar u het Nederlandse forum vindt op http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=12 mvg m 2015-04-21 8:32 GMT+02:00 Ronald Stroethoff stroe...@zonnet.nl: Beste lezers, als ik probeer om de website:¨http://forum.openstreetmap.nl¨ te bekijken dan krijg ik de foutmelding ¨Server niet gevonden¨. Ik hoop dat iemand tijd kan vinden om naar dit probleem te kijken. overigens, op de website ¨http://www.openstreetmap.nl¨ staat rechts onder de titel forum.openstreetmap.nl een samenvatting. Deze wordt al enige maanden niet meer bijgewerkt. Ronald ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [Talk-it] Dati Regione Emilia Romagna e Toscana
1. per la Toscana esiste autorizzazione formale per l’utilizzo dei dati da parte della regione (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Toscana). Non ho trovato qualcosa di analogo per l’Emilia, anche se ho visto che sono stati ufficialmente utilizzati i dati del db regionale. Posso dunque utilizzare come fonte i dati da db regionale Emilia Romagna? Che licenza hanno i WMS? 2. ritenete una procedura corretta ed auspicabile utilizzare la toponomastica proveniente da db regionali per l’inserimento su OSM? Visto che i dati possono contenere errori e che non sono un mappatore locale. Aggiungo altresì che la mappa verrà controllata dai tecnici del Parco Nazionale. Se verrà controllata mi sembra buono Se poi corteggi i dati anche su osm, meglio ;) Ultima nota: il mio sarà un intervento manuale e non utilizzerò import massivi. Secondo me non ci sono problemi Grazie e a presto, Marco ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démo Carnet de rando sur la crête des Vosges
Le 20/04/2015 23:43, Vincent Pottier a écrit : Moi, ça me plaît bien ! Cool ! Merci pour les remarques. Une suggestion (qui serait sympa) sur la dernière page, où il y a les implantation des cartes, un fond de carte global genre OSM de base permettrait de saisir la région couverte. J'ai hésité, mais j'ai trouvé plus lisible comme ça (pour les locaux, avec les noms de cartes, ça parle). Mais c'est possible. Une autre suggestion, mettre les numéros ou les noms des cartes sur les cartes elle-mêmes. (Ça, c'est de la feignantise de ma part !) Et puis... Je n'ai pas testé le script. Mais je viens de me lancer dans Maperitive avec le rendu R25. Il me semble que les tags leaf_type ne sont pas rendu pour les forêts. J'ai mis du temps à l'accepter, ce nouveau tag. Mais il est pris en compte en parallèle de wood dans la version béta. Si tu veux la feuille de style actuelle avant sa prochaine publication, n'hésite pas à demander (vue la grosse évolution depuis la dernière mise à disposition, je vais la republier bientôt). Enfin... Le tout sur Github, ça permettrait de faire remonter les bugs autrement que sur la liste. Puis de parvenir un jour, peut-être à un service genre MapOSmatic Faudra que je fasse le pas, un jour. Pour les bugs, demandes ou remarques, j'ai de temps en temps des messages sur l'adresse mél fournie avec le rendu ou sur le compte OSM… Mais c'est pas terriblement fréquent non-plus… ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[talk-ph] fresh news from Busuanga
Señorita Sanchez of the Swiss Red Cross shared this [0] picture earlier, to update us of their mapping efforts in Busuanga. I think what she's trying to tell us is: expect fresh points, new lines, plenty of polygons , and lots of relations coming from them. :) Regards, [0] https://plus.google.com/+WinOlario/posts/4HF9Tm8ksyC ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[Talk-it] Dati Regione Emilia Romagna e Toscana
Ciao, devo realizzare una mappa del Parco Nazionale delle Foreste Casentinesi, che come sapete è a cavallo tra Toscana ed Emilia Romagna. Intendo utilizzare i dati OSM e contemporaneamente vorrei arricchire gli stessi. Principalmente devo inserire i nomi relativi agli isolated_dwelling. Come fonte dati ho individuato i db cartografici prodotti dalle due regioni. Ho due domande: 1. per la Toscana esiste autorizzazione formale per l’utilizzo dei dati da parte della regione (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Toscana http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Toscana). Non ho trovato qualcosa di analogo per l’Emilia, anche se ho visto che sono stati ufficialmente utilizzati i dati del db regionale. Posso dunque utilizzare come fonte i dati da db regionale Emilia Romagna? 2. ritenete una procedura corretta ed auspicabile utilizzare la toponomastica proveniente da db regionali per l’inserimento su OSM? Visto che i dati possono contenere errori e che non sono un mappatore locale. Aggiungo altresì che la mappa verrà controllata dai tecnici del Parco Nazionale. Ultima nota: il mio sarà un intervento manuale e non utilizzerò import massivi. Grazie e a presto, Marco ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-GB] elsan_points
User richardwest and a few others added a few Elsan Points along Canals in the UK: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2591597652/ https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2755755468/ https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2891630633/ I've checked with Richard about this, to make sure the current tagging can cover the use case. It can. I'm seeking additional local input on this tagging. Similar facilities outside the UK have been retagged to the sanitary_dump_station scheme. Any UK edit will be node-by-node, not mechanical. No Canal River Trust google map will be copied, though it's a shame the CRT data is not available to OpenStreetMap. My goal with the edits are, over time, to prepare this feature for acceptance in rendering. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] Modello lettera mancata attribuzione
Ciao Simone, ho corretto piccoli typos nulla di chè. Per me bene impostata così grazie! Cesare Cesare Gerbino http://cesaregerbino.wordpress.com/ http://www.facebook.com/cesare.gerbino http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cesare-Gerbino-GIS-Blog/246234455498174?ref=hl https://twitter.com/CesareGerbino http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cesare-gerbino/56/494/77b Questo è un account di posta personale di Cesare Gerbino: tutte le opinioni espresse sono personali e non riflettono necessariamente quelle del mio datore di lavoro This is Cesare Gerbino mail account. Text is written by Cesare Gerbino: the views expressed are mine and not necessarily those of my employer. . Il giorno 20 aprile 2015 18:14, girarsi_liste liste.gira...@gmail.com ha scritto: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 19/04/2015 12:11, aborruso ha scritto: Cesare, ho creato un modello minimale, per il caso più tipico di mancata attribuzione: http://bit.ly/1O4wmVG Buona domenica a tutti Ho riscritto, in buona parte la lettera, dovrebbe andare, che dite? È troppo buona? - -- Simone Girardelli _|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_ |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVNSXuAAoJEMTPIIVov0ZtcFEH/RsSgGOPXz4JBRg2EnmUNs5g wVxqvnF3eFwB2JopRTzgE2z7ZC5YgylDen/SOc6gDPKwezfJKFHe0uiS7cO5tdnU M9NPmEk4EbtqIBxQvo1iwT5PprNUvWy9XDvNDlZMl9ndDl8oh/sILDbmS+fCL7Uy aTMrmoMy29YwNfMtQYAQpkHVUkZSLh2jMjlL+mRf398dTkLcdtYlNcH0+J/iWsDJ UBKN5IuAiDobNtUNOxXFAjmC5TObl+N8cBsm6t7Xh/I8pwOaU0sSDBm4F/MKJnoi t65do8JWcwDOE2r5oblx69lHcSP8XVS356tUMAfAtGbtQ5FIYuFur+y343tIDEU= =l2rh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] JobYourLife: uso non corretto di OSM (mancata attribuzione)
Ciao a tutti, JobYourLife mi ha risposto ieri sera, positivamente, e l'attribuzione ora si vede correttamente sulle mappe delle loro pagine. Vi riporto il testo perchè contiene un apprezzamento / ringraziamento al lavoro di tutti i mappers per cui mi sembra giusto riportalo per chi ha speso tempo, fatica ed energie, molto più di me. = Buonasera, innanzitutto volevo ringraziarla del complimento per l’utilizzo della base cartografica OpenStreetMap. Ci tengo a “reinoltrarle il complimento per essere membro della comunità che ritengo veramente meritevole di elogi. E’ grazie al lavoro suo e di tutti i suoi colleghi che la base cartografica è arrivata all’ottimo livello di adesso. Venendo all’oggetto della sua mail devo purtroppo ammettere che è stata una dimenticanza nostra quella di non includere l’attribution necessaria per l’utilizzo dello strumento. Mi sono quindi attivato oggi stesso per fare la modifica in tutti i punti dell’applicazione che utilizzano le mappe ed ho appena rilasciato in produzione il fix. Si senta libero di farci sapere qualora riscontrasse ancora utilizzi che non rispettino il vincoli di attribuzione. La ringrazio per la segnalazione. Buona serata, Pietro Stracquadanio = Buona giornata Cesare Gerbino http://cesaregerbino.wordpress.com/ http://www.facebook.com/cesare.gerbino http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cesare-Gerbino-GIS-Blog/246234455498174?ref=hl https://twitter.com/CesareGerbino http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cesare-gerbino/56/494/77b Questo è un account di posta personale di Cesare Gerbino: tutte le opinioni espresse sono personali e non riflettono necessariamente quelle del mio datore di lavoro This is Cesare Gerbino mail account. Text is written by Cesare Gerbino: the views expressed are mine and not necessarily those of my employer. . Il giorno 19 aprile 2015 21:55, cesare gerbino cesaregerb...@gmail.com ha scritto: Per JobYourLife posso provare a contattarli io . se non ottengo news / risposte faccio sapere qui ... Grazie Cesare Cesare Gerbino http://cesaregerbino.wordpress.com/ http://www.facebook.com/cesare.gerbino http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cesare-Gerbino-GIS-Blog/246234455498174?ref=hl https://twitter.com/CesareGerbino http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cesare-gerbino/56/494/77b Questo è un account di posta personale di Cesare Gerbino: tutte le opinioni espresse sono personali e non riflettono necessariamente quelle del mio datore di lavoro This is Cesare Gerbino mail account. Text is written by Cesare Gerbino: the views expressed are mine and not necessarily those of my employer. . Il giorno 19 aprile 2015 12:49, Stefano saba...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il giorno 19 aprile 2015 10:57, cesare gerbino cesaregerb...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, per curiosità ho dato un'occhiata a www.jobyourlife.com che è uno dei portali di ricerca lavoro che stà andando per la maggiore dopo averne sentito parlare su mezzi di stampa. Occorre registrarsi al sito per vederne le caratteristiche: tra queste, le richieste e le proposte sono visualizzate su mappe. Le mappe sono quelle di OSM senza ombra di dubbio: non so se qualche vestizione particolare o se fatta ad hoc ma i dati sono quelli. Sulla mappa NON c'è la corretta attribuzione. Mi sono registrato anche io ora e confermo. Il problema sorge mi pare dal mix di piattaforme che usano (Google Maps API e Mapbox :-O ) So che ci sono stati casi precedenti sia nel mondo PA o dintorni, sia verso il mondo business privato: OSM Italia ha un modello per come richiedere di sistemare la cosa o delle best practises da cui prendere spunto? Io stavo per postare pubblicamente sulla pagina facebook col profilo OSM Italia, ma aspetto se qualcuno li volesse contattare via mail... Grazie Cesare Cesare Gerbino Ciao, Stefano http://cesaregerbino.wordpress.com/ http://www.facebook.com/cesare.gerbino http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cesare-Gerbino-GIS-Blog/246234455498174?ref=hl https://twitter.com/CesareGerbino http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cesare-gerbino/56/494/77b Questo è un account di posta personale di Cesare Gerbino: tutte le opinioni espresse sono personali e non riflettono necessariamente quelle del mio datore di lavoro This is Cesare Gerbino mail account. Text is written by Cesare Gerbino: the views expressed are mine and not necessarily those of my employer. . ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Modello lettera mancata attribuzione
Ciao Simone, girarsi_liste wrote Ho riscritto, in buona parte la lettera, dovrebbe andare, che dite? ti ringrazio e mi piace. Solo una cosa. Io non avrei tolto la richiesta diretta e semplice messa quasi a inizio testo: Si richiede che l'attribuzione sia © OpenStreetMap contributors, con il link alla pagina di Copyright (http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright). In modo che a chi legge non sia necessario aprire un'altra pagina e applicarcisi un po'. In quella pagina di copyright inoltre si parla non soltanto dei problemi di mancata attribuzione, ma del tema sull'uso dei dati in generale. Chi riceve queste email potrebbe essere pigro e non abituato a leggere pagine sul Copyright. Saluti - Andrea Borruso email: aborr...@tin.it website: http://blog.spaziogis.it my 2.0 life: http://aborruso.spaziogis.it feed: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/Tanto 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Modello-lettera-mancata-attribuzione-tp5841074p5841271.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-es] Problema con rotondas de salida de autovía en rutas con bici
Yo tengo entendido que solo se debe etiquetar como highway=motorway_link los tramos de acceso o salida de autovía que se usan exclusivamente para eso y que tienen las mismas restricciones de tráfico que esta, es decir, por donde no pueden circular peatones, bicis o ciclomotores. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway_link Link roads between different highways types[editar http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:highway%3Dmotorway_linkaction=editsection=6 ] If a road leads from a motorway to a non-motorway, *only the portion that solely carries traffic to or from the motorway should be tagged as motorway_link*. Any other roads used to connect the motorway to a non-motorway, which can also be used by non-motorway traffic, should be tagged as something less than motorway_link, usually the *_link of the non-motorway. El 18 de abril de 2015, 21:51, Manuel lladosa manolo...@gmail.com escribió: He estado repasando la documentación sobre rotondas: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction=roundabout Resulta que esa rotonda está mal definida, aunque acceda una salida de autovía la rotonda NO debe ser autovía. Tag the way(s) with highway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway=*, the same as the connecting roads. If there are several roads of different importance connecting to the roundabout, you should usually use the one with the greatest importance, THAT DOES NOT BEGIN/END AT THE ROUNDABOUT. Como la salida de autovía termina en la rotonda ésta no debe ser etiquetada como autovía, sino como la siguiente carretera de mayor categoria, en este ejemplo highway=unclassified Tengamos eso claro, la rotonda donde llegue/salga un enlace de autovía NO debe ser autovía. Ale, a arreglar toca, espero que haya muchas así. El 18/04/15 a les 19:40, Manuel Lladosa ha escrit: Ahh, pues es buena idea lo de bicycle=yes aunque también convendría poner pedestrian=yes. Lo probaré a ver si funciona. Muchas gracias. talk-es-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Envíe los mensajes para la lista Talk-es a talk-es@openstreetmap.org Para subscribirse o anular su subscripción a través de la WEB https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es O por correo electrónico, enviando un mensaje con el texto help en el asunto (subject) o en el cuerpo a: talk-es-requ...@openstreetmap.org Puede contactar con el responsable de la lista escribiendo a: talk-es-ow...@openstreetmap.org Si responde a algún contenido de este mensaje, por favor, edite la linea del asunto (subject) para que el texto sea mas especifico que: Re: Contents of Talk-es digest Además, por favor, incluya en la respuesta sólo aquellas partes del mensaje a las que está respondiendo. Asuntos del día: 1. Problema con rotondas de salida de autovía en rutas con bici (Manuel lladosa) 2. Re: Problema con rotondas de salida de autovía en rutas con bici (Carlos Dávila) 3. Re: Problema con rotondas de salida de autovía en rutas con bici (Alejandro S.) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 20:11:05 +0200 From: Manuel lladosa manolo...@gmail.com manolo...@gmail.com To: talk-es@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-es] Problema con rotondas de salida de autovía en rutas con bici Message-ID: 55314cb9.7000...@gmail.com 55314cb9.7000...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Este no es un problema de OSM en sí , es un problema de la mayoría de los servicios de enrutamiento que usan OSM. Tomemos por ejemplo esta rotonda: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/9553 En ella se cruzan varios caminos y la salida de la autovía hacia Montesa, un pequeño pueblo de la provincia de Valencia (que tiene un castillo interesante, por cierto). Por esa rotonda apenas hay tráfico, una bici puede pasar sin ningún riesgo. Está definida como enlace de autovía (motorway_link) porque en OSM existe el acuerdo de que una rotonda se define con el tipo de vía de la carretera más importante de las que acceden a ella. Por tanto, esa rotonda está correctamente definida. El problema es que la gran mayoría de servicios de enrutamiento (GraphHopper, MapQuest, Osmand, etc.) la consideran autovía y no hacen pasar las rutas con bici por ahí, haciendo que las rutas no sean de calidad. Yo he conseguido solucionarlo gracias al servicio BRouter http://brouter.de/brouter-web/ , porque se puede personalizar y hacer que las rutas en bici pasen por la vias highway=motorway_link and junction=roundabout Esto es un auténtico problemón, por culpa de esto los servicios de enrutamiento no hacen rutas de calidad con bici o andando, a pesar que yo lo he solucionado con BRouter. No se como será en otros paises, pero en España pienso que en TODAS las rotondas de este tipo se puede circular con bici o andando, otra cosa es que haya más o menos tráfico. En resumen, ¿pensáis que deberíamos
Re: [Talk-de] Fußgänger-Diskriminierung?
Am 21. April 2015 um 15:19 schrieb fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com Am 21.04.2015 um 12:08 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 21. April 2015 um 11:14 schrieb Roland Olbricht olbri...@mentzdv.de: Kurze Nachfrage. In wie fern hängen footway/path=sidewalk und sidewalk=detached zusammen, bzw unterschieden die sich? Weil die Frage auf kam: Ich verwende path=sidewalk, da ich mich an kein explizit gemappten highway=cycleway;cycleway=track errinnern kann. Aber was spricht gegen cycleway=sidewalk ? Irgentwo habe ich mal gelesen, dass highway=cycleway;cycleway=track sinnfrei wäre, da highway=cycleway sowieso cycleway=track impliziere. Außerdem wird cycleway=track schon an der Straße (highway=track) verwendet, und könnte daher zu Problemen mit Renderern führen, die man vermeiden kann. Gegen cycleway=sidewalk sprich meiner Meinung nach nicht viel, außer einem komischen Gefühl durch das walk im sidewalk. Danke für den Hinweis. Das ist (für Fußwege) ziemlich genau das, was ich gesucht habe und zu Jochens Vorschlag passt. Dass es zusätzlich sidwalk=detached gibt, liegt vermutlich daran, dass der russische Nutzer ebenfalls das Tag footway=sidewalk nicht gefunden hat. sidewalk=detached ist doch eher sowas wie footway=track, d.h. ein von der Straße unabhängiger bzw. baulich getrennter Fußweg in Nähe der Straße, im Gegensatz zu einem klar zur Straße gehörenden, nur durch einen Bordstein abgetrennten Gehweg. Ich hätte es jetzt an den Straße (highway=*) analog zu sidewalk=both/left/right/no verwendet. Aah. Das macht tatsächlich am meinsten Sinn. Danke. Es sollte mit in die Wiki-Dokumentation zu highway=footway aufgenommen werden: http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/DE:Tag:highway%3Dfootway In diesem Fall reicht es sogar, das nur in der deutschen Version nachzuziehen. m.E. wäre es von vornherein sinnvoll gewesen, Gehwege mit einem anderen tag als völlig unabhängige, eigenständige Fußwege zu taggen, und vielleicht ginge das auch jetzt noch einzuführen. +1 highway=sidepath oder sideway=footway/path/cycleway highway=sidepath finde ich recht nett. Da könnte man dann die gleichen tagging Regeln anwenden, wie bei highway=path. Außerdem verlinken dann sowohl cycleway/sidewalk=sidepath und bicycle/foot=use_sidepath auf eben diesen Weg. Allerdings müsste man auch hier irgentwie zwischen Wegen unterscheiden, welche nur durch einen Bordstein bzw. mittels Grünstreifen, Graben, Gitter, (Parkbuchten) von der Fahrbahn getrennt sind. Gruß Hubert. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-GB] Derbyshire County Council Rights of Way
It is a while since I have reported a footpath issue. Their reporting website now provides openstreetmap as a map layer which is good to see.They offer the standard OSM layer and also a walking layer. The latter is unforunatley the cycleing layer which doesn't really do the map data justice in the context of a walking map.OS remains the default. Regards Dudley ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] GraphHopper : un calculateur d'itinéraires
Le 21/04/2015 20:21, Yves Pratter a écrit : Bonjour, Je viens de tomber par hasard sur un nouveau? calculateur d’itinéraires basé sur les données OSM : GraphHopper.com http://GraphHopper.com Il a une API open source https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/ pour des itinéraires en voiture, vélo et à pied. Elle peut être personnalisée pour d’autres « véhicules (cheval dans le cas de Wanderreitekarte.de http://Wanderreitekarte.de, …). Les dénivelés sont pris en compte… Quelqu’un l’utilise déjà ? non mais j'ai pu constater que c'est le troisième choix, que je ne connaissais pas, qui apparaît dans la liste des calculateurs (avec mapquest et osrm) lorsque l'on fait son itinéraire sur osm.org. bonne soirée -- Vincent Bergeot ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-de] Updating motorhome dump station tagging (English)
Apologies for using English on the German list. I would like to seek additional voices on moving German motorhome sewage tagging from: amenity=waste_disposal name=Aire de services camping-car waste_disposal:chemical_toilet=yes waste_disposal:grey_water=yes To: amenity=sanitary_dump_station name=Aire de services camping-car -- Note that: 1) All presently mapped German stations are tagged as accepting both grey_water and sewage, and no site is mapped with chemical restrictions. 2) German mapper Gmbo has designed a tagging scheme for describing stations in more detail: receptor type, height of the drain, chemical restrictions, grey water only facilities. Those tags can be added to the above, by a mapper who knows the local area and station types. No information will be lost. 3) There is separate tagging for marine facilities for boats, as it is improper to direct a motorhome driver to use a marine-only facility. 4) The waste_disposal:chemical_toilet tagging appears only in Europe: the USA/Mexico/Canada and Australia/New Zealand use the amenity=sanitary_dump_station style now. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Modello lettera mancata attribuzione
Secondo me ci sono diverse sfumature di pigrizia, e non vorrei perdere alcune delle opportunità positive nascoste. Credo che in un messaggio di questo tipo lo sforzo di comunicazione debba valere come quello di correttezza formale/legale. Saluti __ Scusami per la brevità, ti sto scrivendo dal cellulare. website: http://blog.spaziogis.it 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E EPSG:4326 - Andrea Borruso email: aborr...@tin.it website: http://blog.spaziogis.it my 2.0 life: http://aborruso.spaziogis.it feed: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/Tanto 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Modello-lettera-mancata-attribuzione-tp5841074p5841369.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Altro caso di mancata attribuzione
Marcello Arcangeli wrote Mi hanno risposto che provvederanno a far aggiungere l'attribuzione nelle prossime ristampe, che devono fare dato che è presente anche qualche errore. Tra l'altro ho scoperto che ne hanno anche una versione cartacea. Hanno chiesto spiegazioni alla ditta realizzatrice, la quale ha risposto che non pensava di dover mettere alcuna attribuzione, avendo 'ridisegnato' la mappa. in che senso ridisegnato? hanno cambiato solo render o hanno proprio ritracciato tutto utilizzando OSM come fonte di ispirazione? no perchè in entrambi i casi la OdbL parla chiaro e l'attribuzione deve essere fatta comunque...non lo so a questo punto ho il sospetto che il problema sia la compresione dell'inglese da parte delle copisterie/stamperie...ma mi sembra assurdo che abbiano la competenza tecnica per prendere una mappa e modificarla e non gli passi minimamente per il cervello che la mappa non sia gratis...il mio dubbio continua a rimanere: fanno finta di nulla (metti che qualche assessore poi si lamenti dei soldi dati a loro per realizzare la mappa che in realtà è fatta, a gratis da altri)e nel caso, a danno ormai fatto, faranno i mea culpa (magari senza neanche impegnarsi per risolvere la situazione ma promettendo che in futuro presteranno più attenzione)... Almeno questi hanno avuto il pudore di cambiare la grafica della mappa...non come certi altri (famosi) che non solo hanno fatto un copia incolla pari pari la nostra mappa, facendola passare per un'opera frutto unicamente della loro capacità creativa, ma che poi hanno minacciato (con fare mafioso) tutti coloro che avessero osato insinuare avessero copiato...diciamo quindi che questo non si avvicina neanche minimamente al caso più grave fino ad ora capitatoci ;) e speriamo sia stata solo sbadataggine e che trovino una maniera per risolvere...tendenzialmente mettere un adesivo con la giusta licenza su un tabellone pubblico può sempre passare per imbrattamento di bene pubblico e quindi è un operazione non proprio esente da rischi per la community. - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Altro-caso-di-mancata-attribuzione-tp5841296p5841375.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Import d'hydrants sur le département du Tarn
Salut à tous, Nicolas m'a interpellé lundi en direct sur la question de l'import des données PEI - ou points d'eau incendie, préférable tant sur le plan linguistique que réglementaire à hydrants. Du coup je raccroche les wagons avec les riches échanges, initiés par ce dernier, qui ont eu lieu sur la liste concernant les données tarnaises. Comme exposé dans un message précédent, le SDIS 91 s'inscrit également dans la libération de ses données - voire dans de la coproduction avec la communauté OSM lorsque cela est possible. Les emblématiques données PEI sont bien entendu en 1ère ligne dans le viseur. Après transmission de nos données à certains contributeurs dont le pétillant VDCT, celui-ci m'a fait part d'un contrôle-qualité qu'il avait réalisé sur un échantillon : si les résultats étaient globalement bons, il avait mis en lumière des défauts de positionnement que je ne soupçonnais pas ! Pour des questions d'amour propre, tant ma hiérarchie que moi fûmes d'accord pour suspendre la libération de nos données. Suspendre mais pas abandonner. Ainsi, avant de mettre à disposition nos quelques 14600 PEI en opendata et/puis dans OSM - qui en compte moins de 400 sur l'Essonne -, la qualification de nos données est l'option que j'ai retenue en concertation avec le sieur Vincent, plutôt que la création d'une couche Osmose avec des tags fixme=* peu enthousiasmants à mettre à jour. J'ai mis en place un mode opératoire pour mener simplement et aussi efficacement que possible cette qualification à l'aide de l'outil QGIS (connu des géomaticiens, peut-être un peu moins de la majorité des contribnuteurs OSM), d'un rudimentaire formulaire de saisie fait maison et de l'extension go2streetview (ah, je devine des mâchoires qui se crispent...). L'idée est de faire ainsi un pré-repérage des PEI mal positionnés afin d'envoyer ensuite uniquement sur les objets identifiés des agents du SDIS, sapeurs-pompiers et/ou cartographes, pour saisir le bon (X,Y). On s'affranchit de faire la tournée de tout le département, chose impensable en ces temps d'alerte Vigipirate contraignante et donc d'effectifs restreints. Contrairement à Vincent, je ne suis pas persuadé qu'il faille connaître le département pour procéder à ce travail : moi-même je n'en connais pas tous les recoins et me suis mis à l'oeuvre sur une commune qui m'est peu familière sans soucis. Temps moyen de qualif avant rodage : 1,5 min/point. Soit 162 jours pour venir à bout des 14600 PEI à raison d' 1 h/j. Vous aurez deviné mon appel du pied : s'il y a des contributeurs prêts à finalement coproduire des PEI au cordeau avec le SDIS 91 afin de réduire ce délai de qualification, je serai prompt à leur transmettre le mode opératoire en question et à en assurer le SAV. Merci d'avance à ceux qui se manifesteront. :) En outre, je suis ouvert à toute autre suggestion lumineuse et plus efficace pour atteindre les objectifs de libération des données SDIS 91 et leur import dans OSM (import qui tiendrait compte des données existantes bien entendu, mais qui ne devrait alors pas non plus porter à débats ou discussions puisque les données auraient été auditées par des contributeurs avant d'être bonifiées par le producteur...). Enfin, concernant la question des ref et ref:FR:SDIS : Je crois avoir déjà exposé mon point de vue sur cette dernière. Il ne faut pas, à mon avis, être avare de ces clés ref:FR:XX lorsque les sources sont variées et si l'on (OSM) souhaite que ces mêmes sources contribuent durablement à l'enrichissement d'OSM grâce à l'intérêt de voir leurs données améliorées dans OSM et de pouvoir les réintégrer dans leurs BD. Aller-retours vertueux que, de ma fenêtre, je verrais bien avec les SDIS, et celui de l'Essonne en particulier. Je rejoins certains propos lus sur la liste : le ref doit être celui vu sur le PEI (moins de 3 chiffres généralement). Toutefois, le ref:FR:SDIS - que l'on peut en effet logiquement envisager plutôt que ref:FR:SDISxx en croisant avec le département - est, pour les SDIS, généralement formaté de la sorte : - soit code INSEE de la commune + ref (avec un 0 en préfixe) = 9 caractères, comme en Essonne, - soit code INSEE de la commune + - + ref (avec un 0 en préfixe) = 10 caractères, comme chez les collègues du SDIS 29. Merci pour votre lecture. N'hésitez pas à me contacter pour la qualif des données PEI du 91 ;) --- Yann KACENELEN Chef du service Cartographie Information Géographique Service Départemental d'Incendie et de Secours de l'Essonne (SDIS 91) Groupement Prévision-Cartographie 114 allée des Champs Elysées - 91080 COURCOURONNES Tél.: 01 60 91 22 50 Courriél : ykacene...@sdis91.fr Respectons l'environnement : n'imprimez ce courriel que si cela est indispensable...___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-ro] professional gps tracking
Salutare, O echipa apartinand unui ONG doreste maparea cat mai multor trasee montane din Romania. Au apelat la mine pentru sfaturi, insa nu stiu ce le pot sugera in materie de echipamente profesionale de tracking (gps). Ma puteti ajuta cu cateva sfaturi / directii? Multumesc! O seara placuta, Emil ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
[Talk-lt] dviraciu takai Vilniuje
Sveiki! Mes dabar norime taisyti OSM dviraciu duomenius Vilniuje. Ar galime susitarti kad atitiktu duomenys is savivaldybes su OSM? t.r. su http://maps.vplanas.lt/aplinka/?tema=dviraciai OSM kai kur vidury niekur, pvz. seskines oze, prie dvarcioniu, kazkodel ant bet kokio tako yra zymeta bicycle=yes, uztad truksta taku centre. frankas - ___ Talk-lt mailing list Talk-lt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lt
Re: [Talk-br] Sua cidade está mesmo bem mapeada?
Obrigado amigo. Desconhecia a ferramenta para JOSM. Só o validador padrão, que não apontava erros específicos para o Brasil. Att,BladeTC Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:24:25 -0300 From: wi...@wille.blog.br To: talk-br@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-br] Sua cidade está mesmo bem mapeada? Olá, Pra quem ainda não tem o costume, é sempre bom verificar erros de mapeamento através de algumas ferramentas de controle de qualidade. As duas principais são o OSM Inspector e o KeepRight: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/ http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=14lat=-23.58791lon=-46.65713 Essas ferramentas apontam muitos erros que alguns editores deixam passar ou que cometemos no passado por inexperiência. Outro recurso importante é usar o validador do JOSM com regras adicionais específicas para o Brasil. Instruções de instalação em https://github.com/OSMBrasil/validador-josm/ Wille ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-lt] dviraciu takai Vilniuje
Labas Ar galime susitarti kad atitiktu duomenys is savivaldybes su OSM? t.r. su http://maps.vplanas.lt/aplinka/?tema=dviraciai Dviračių infrastruktūros žymėjimo taisykles aptarėme prieš metus ir vėliau „peraptarėme“ prieš pusmetį ir patvirtinome tą patį pirmą variantą: http://lt.wikibooks.org/wiki/Atviro_žemėlapio_vadovas/Redagavimas/Dviračiai Negirdėjau, kad kas nors būtų pasikeitę. OSM kai kur vidury niekur, pvz. seskines oze, prie dvarcioniu, kazkodel ant bet kokio tako yra zymeta bicycle=yes, uztad truksta taku centre. Kiek pamenu, buvom sutarę, kad bicycle=yes yra tokia subjektyvi žyma, skirta esamos dviračių infrastruktūros sąlyginiam apjungimui. T.y. ji dedama ant kelių, kur realiai nėra jokios dviračių infrastruktūros (dviračių takų ar juostų), bet kuri reikalinga likusių takų/juostų sujungimui. Taigi nėra objektyvių kriterijų, kada bicycle=yes dėti, kada nedėti. -- Tomas ___ Talk-lt mailing list Talk-lt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lt
Re: [Talk-it] Modello lettera mancata attribuzione
Grazie ancora __ Scusami per la brevità, ti sto scrivendo dal cellulare. website: http://blog.spaziogis.it 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E EPSG:4326 - Andrea Borruso email: aborr...@tin.it website: http://blog.spaziogis.it my 2.0 life: http://aborruso.spaziogis.it feed: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/Tanto 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Modello-lettera-mancata-attribuzione-tp5841074p5841373.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démo Carnet de rando sur la crête des Vosges
Le 20 avr. 2015 à 16:11, JB jb...@mailoo.org a écrit : Du coup, j'en ai profité pour créer un petit carnet de randonnée sur la crête des Vosges. Bien cette idée de carnet, j’espère qu’elle va faire des petits dans d’autres régions :) Pas d'itinéraires d’indiqués mais la crête des Vosges permet de s'en passer. Pour un allochtone, les itinéraires (avec des temps indicatifs) c’est rassurant ;) Mais effectivement, on arrive à s'en passer dans ce cas. La mise en forme n'est pas forcément hyper travaillée Je trouve le résultat clair et plaisant. Seul bémol, la multitude de carrés rouges vers le Vieil Armand (carte 2). Si je lis bien la légende, il s’agit de Lieux ou éléments touristiques ou remarquables. Un peu déroutant. ça me plait… Itou. Ce n’est qu’une démo, je n’imagine même pas la version officielle :) Merci, — Yves___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] Modello lettera mancata attribuzione
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 21/04/2015 11:36, Alessandro ha scritto: Il 21/04/2015 09:21, aborruso ha scritto: Solo una cosa. Io non avrei tolto la richiesta diretta e semplice messa quasi a inizio testo: Si richiede che l'attribuzione sia © OpenStreetMap contributors, con il link alla pagina di Copyright (http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright). D'accordo con Andrea, la lettera deve necessariamente contenere tutte le informazioni. Non vedo l'ora perchè ne devo giusto mandare una copia al nostro #censura# Comune di Genova. Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT Nulla vieta di mettercela anche voi, mica mi offendo. :) Solo faccio presente, che chi omette per pigrizia di leggere il link, omette di mandare una mail per informazioni all'user che si è interessato, omette di leggere anche la mail stessa dopo due righe, diciamo pure che è un menefreghista a prescindere, perchè anche con la vostra citazione, se ne frega altamente. Invece se mi dite che l'aspetto legale avrebbe più incisività perchè scritto in maniera diretta, scusate non so esprimermi bene in questo caso, allora sia scritto ciò. - -- Simone Girardelli _|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_ |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVNobhAAoJEMTPIIVov0ZtmYoH/2iz7n/02XBJ/xmWEBPI60Qv WkBQ9a8ph3UqRyEaZ2e/7v5Z8jJDRX08XCW2ZDWzRnjbepk21grMCOdWM0bjX48w jalcRNsL5MWymDUlrPSBubCOJZ7MGvV1GZJDSR1d4VcJT8AWT5hHaja9gSCrXg/1 M2cFMCEY8iXRCYerqeICegv0VHKluxQ6L+0TzRSFtP8B30p/BUG+NyJ0UV7Nfbs9 Sobk7hjRb/vBCTTJ5mTQJfvq19bctALKLOJo+zibX9UuYZShwYtPYoXtL16U/mGg 68W/Oj2J3RsR6envj2qBDanAjjISc4sSgju72Zr+hzfPaIwle5TBWps0zJ8hDG0= =OGpD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Communiqué de presse carto-party
Marc Gemis et moi ont du improviser un petit peu ou plutôt assez fortement. Notre conclusion était que avec que 4 heures il nous manquera le temps pour envoyer les gens dans les rues et les guider pour ajouter le résultat de leurs découvrertes à la base de OSM. La proposition de Marc était donc d'expliquer aux gens comment ajouter QQ chose, puis de leur demander d'ajouter QQ chose près de chez eux. Vers 11-12h Peter peut expliquer Mapillary et a 13h on peut sortir pour aller faire des photos. Je pense que c'est comme ça que Marc et moi l'ont dans la tête, je pense, mais maintenant je lis que tu écris autre chose. Jo On Apr 21, 2015 7:08 PM, Marc Ducobu marc.duc...@gmail.com wrote: https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/carto-party-com-presse 2015-04-21 17:55 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be: Le Mar 21 avril 2015 17:50, Marc Ducobu a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Finalement, y a t il un communiqué de presse pour la carto party de samedi ? Si oui ça m'intéresse de l'avoir. pas eu le temps de l'écrire. Si tu te lance dans un pad, je compléterai. Ce serait une bonne idée. Il y aura sans doute des articles dans Le Soir (Alain Jenotte) et La Libre (je ne sais pas qui) mais avec un communiqué de presse, nous pourrons un peu mieux guider les journalistes. Du matériel dans les liens ci-dessous : Le lendemain, à ESI (67 rue royale) filmer la cartopartie durant laquelle nous allons améliorer la carte libre openstreetmap pour les handicapés (voir http://wheelmap.org) et pour les cyclistes (voir http://opencyclemap.org). Adresse : rue royale 67 à 1000 Bruxelles entre 9h et 10h puis entre 11h30 et 13h. [1] http://opencyclemap.org/, une cartographie pour cyclistes ; [2] http://wheelmap.org/, une cartographie pour personnes à mobilité réduite Voir http://www.lasemainenumerique.be/Invitation-a-une-Cartopartie.html ou https://framadate.org/vspmbw9xba5pfasn pour l'inscription ou http://www.heb.be/esi/supports/cartopartie.htm ou https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Activities#Invitation_.C3.A0_une_Cartopartie_.5B1.5D_.C3.A0_Bruxelles_-_Samedi_25_Avril_2015.2C_9h_.C3.A0_13h Le créateur de Mapillary http://www.mapillary.com/how.html une application pour faire collectivement l'équivalent de street view sera présent. Comme dit, l'activité 2/ se passe en 3 temps : a) 1h pour savoir comment faire, recevoir des documents papiers à compléter ou installer une application sur son smartphone, b) 1h pour aller sur le terrain mesurer, photographier, noter ... et prendre des notes c) 1h pour ensemble, sur des ordinateurs, encoder les données dans openstreetmap. L'objectif est donc que les gens deviennent indépendants. Le public peut apporter si possible son ordinateur portable pour que tout le monde puisse dans la phase c) travailler et pratiquer. Merci ) toi, Nicolas (qui prépare une conférence sur creative commons pour ce soir) Belle journée. Marc ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Nicolas Pettiaux - nico...@pettiaux.be Soutenons april.org , framasoft.org et laquadrature.net ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- et en avant pour de folles aventures... ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [talk-ph] OSMAnd now available (free) for iPhone
Hi Maning, I would like to provide this info on our wiki pages of Activations. Do you know if the same obf files provided for Android work for iPhones? regard Pierre De : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com À : osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 21 avril 2015 5h45 Objet : [talk-ph] OSMAnd now available (free) for iPhone FYI, https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id934850257 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [Talk-it] Confini aggiornati
2015-04-21 16:25 GMT+02:00 Francesco Pelullo f.pelu...@gmail.com: Il 21/apr/2015 16:19, Federico Cortese cortese...@gmail.com ha scritto: [...] e ci scontriamo con l'annosa questione della licenza della CTR Puglia, che tutti conosciamo. No, Federico, non proprio tutti. :-( Vorrà dire che lo porteremo nuovamente all'attenzione della lista, aggiungendo qualche considerazione più recente. Intanto ho trasferito sulla costa tutti i confini amministrativi comunali, regionali e provinciali di Lecce. Ciao Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSRM-talk] Can hints be used to identify a common segment?
If points are not in order in the route, but are in the same segment, then forward_node_id, reverse_node_id and name_id for each phantom node must be identical. As you say, this information is already in hint_data (decriptors/json_descriptors.hpp). Best regards. Fernando. El 21/04/15 a las 10:33, Stephen Woodbridge escribió: Hi Fernando, Thank you that is a useful observation but my problem is a little different. I have many positions and I would like to determine those that lie on the same segment so that I can group them together. If I remember correctly the hint is a base64 encoded pointer to the edge plus something like and offset along the edge. I could be useful to take advantage of this information to group and order locations along a path. I'll see if I can figure it out from the source code. -Steve On 4/21/2015 8:28 AM, Fernando Pacheco wrote: If both points are in the same segment, their position (third element in route_instructions) should be consecutive. Located on the same street but in different segments (3 and 5): [9, General José Esteban Brito del Pino 122,3,14, 121m, S, 193.1] [9, General José Esteban Brito del Pino, 57,5,21, 56m, S, 191.1] In the same segment (4 and 5): [9, General José Esteban Brito del Pino, 35,4,5, 34m, S, 191.1] [9, General José Esteban Brito del Pino, 56,5,21, 56m, S, 190.1] May be?. Fernando. El 21/04/15 a las 00:24, Stephen Woodbridge escribió: Hi, I have a need to be able to identify if two locations are on the same segment. We already have the hints for each location and there seems to be some commonality in the hints for location on the same segment. I'm wondering if there is a safe way to use the hints to determine if they are on the same segment. Thanks, -Steve --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk -- Ing. Fernando Pacheco M.S.L. Ingesur srl Dirección: Reconquista 268 apto. 511, Montevideo, Uruguay. Teléfonos: +598 29161459, +598 99627932 Web: http://www.ingesur.com.uy/ ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [Talk-it] Modello lettera mancata attribuzione
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 21/04/2015 19:35, aborruso ha scritto: Secondo me ci sono diverse sfumature di pigrizia, e non vorrei perdere alcune delle opportunità positive nascoste. Credo che in un messaggio di questo tipo lo sforzo di comunicazione debba valere come quello di correttezza formale/legale. Saluti __ Scusami per la brevità, ti sto scrivendo dal cellulare. Ok, fatta altra modifica, prego controllate se può andare. Il prossimo fine settimana creo una pagina di prova sul mio profilo nella wiki e copioincollo la lettera, ed aggiungo eventuali scenari per l'uso. Magari è il caso di creare una sottopagina che riporta le segnalazioni cui hanno sortto effetto le lettere? A mò di testimonianza, ovvio però che da parte degli utenti ci dovrebbe essere una certa diligenza nel metterle le cose, sennò è meglio lasciar stare. - -- Simone Girardelli _|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_ |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVNo4IAAoJEMTPIIVov0ZtmbcH/3oJ/+9dIge+7hBnEBzVwE/s emvDW/emuY1k5Mg/210Mqdv3MHsaoapSV2oBLn1B4FbDy9wlPguv062M3Wax8OfX yTZkQ58rFw+huaOP1Z5VgOsyEiT8MJTz7r8Pe/r0fj7xkF/ewTLXjW2ApOnjxxpf Cnad+275D6YUMDAir3SNun2544jfq9YMYkg/lh3d3JKeMnjLVGi9r+bzhLYel1DT uvxlHQtLNQpkTsr33QAechMexLN2rmyQ0R0P/S72T7h3NAxzXbO1U79JZfFibqFG OHw6otOetBvF4At2ADygdzQaYLiLeMWeZwug9ec4nLNtZOSbkUAtwVQDg09kQEw= =S9Vf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[OSM-talk-fr] GraphHopper : un calculateur d'itinéraires
Bonjour, Je viens de tomber par hasard sur un nouveau? calculateur d’itinéraires basé sur les données OSM : GraphHopper.com http://graphhopper.com/ Il a une API open source https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/ pour des itinéraires en voiture, vélo et à pied. Elle peut être personnalisée pour d’autres « véhicules (cheval dans le cas de Wanderreitekarte.de http://wanderreitekarte.de/, …). Les dénivelés sont pris en compte… Quelqu’un l’utilise déjà ? Merci pour vos retours — Yves PS: Un outil utilisant GraphHoper permet de recaler les traces GPS sur les way OSM (Map Matching) : https://github.com/karussell/map-matching https://github.com/karussell/map-matching Plus d’info sur l’algorithm : https://karussell.wordpress.com/2014/07/28/digitalizing-gpx-points-or-how-to-track-vehicles-with-graphhopper/ https://karussell.wordpress.com/2014/07/28/digitalizing-gpx-points-or-how-to-track-vehicles-with-graphhopper/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-de] Fußgänger-Diskriminierung?
Kurze Nachfrage. In wie fern hängen footway/path=sidewalk und sidewalk=detached zusammen, bzw unterschieden die sich? Diese Frage möchte ich wiederholen. Laut wiki [1] geht aus footway=sidewalk doch recht eindeutig hervor, dass es sich bei einem betreffenden Objekt mit dem Tag nicht um einen eigenständigen Weg handelt, sondern eben um einen zu einer Straße zugehörigen Gehsteig. Der Tag scheint auch schon häufig in Verwendung zu sein: [2]. Kann es sein, dass wir hier über ein Problem reden, das schon längst gelöst ist? I.e. ein Router kann bei Vorhandensein von footway=sidewalk den Namen der nächstgelegenen Straße holen bzw. Renderer können einen vorhandenen Namen bei footway=sidewalk weglassen, sofern es in der Nähe gleich benamte Straßen gibt, gleiches gilt für Geocoder. Der Mapper hat dabei die Freiheit den Straßennamen auch auf den Gehsteig zu taggen oder nicht. Und auch der Fall, dass ein spezieller Gehsteig einen eigenen Namen hat (so Dinge wie [3] z.B.) ist damit gut abgedeckt. Grüße Martin [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE%3ATag%3Afootway%3Dsidewalk [2] http://taginfo.osm.org/tags/footway=sidewalk#overview [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/175773704 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On Tue, 21 Apr 2015, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I've checked with Richard about this, to make sure the current tagging can cover the use case. Most canal-side/marina-side are accessed-protected using a 'BWB' key; but not all (Atherstone top lock comes to mind). Some points have not suitable for self-pumpout usage (I believe those that simply empty into a septic tank). I admit I hadn't really focused on adding these facilities these because of a long-term hope of obtaining the dataset from BWB/CRT---but if that happens it looks like it's going to require quite a bit of checking/correcting anyway (taking the example above, CRT have it on the wrong side of the canal): https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/directory/603/elsan-atherstone-lock-1-footbridge -Paul ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] Altro caso di mancata attribuzione
Se correggono errori e aggiungono civici devono anche restituire le modifiche/aggiunte in osm ? On mar 21 apr 2015 12:12:53 CEST, Marcello arca...@gmail.com wrote: A giudicare da quanti casi di mancata attribuzione si scoprono devo dire che la nostra mappa sta diventando veramente popolare! Pochi giorni fa ho visto un pannello con la mappa della città posizionato presso la porta principale, ho riconosciuto immediatamente la fonte, quindi ho scritto all'ufficio del turismo per segnalare la mancata attribuzione. Mi hanno risposto che provvederanno a far aggiungere l'attribuzione nelle prossime ristampe, che devono fare dato che è presente anche qualche errore. Tra l'altro ho scoperto che ne hanno anche una versione cartacea. Hanno chiesto spiegazioni alla ditta realizzatrice, la quale ha risposto che non pensava di dover mettere alcuna attribuzione, avendo 'ridisegnato' la mappa. Il pannello è questo: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7K8A-AwEeK_N1lOaVRKb2oxeVE/view?usp=sharing, la zona è questa: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/42.55669/12.41418 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/42.55669/12.41418 Purtroppo per le mappe cartacee o altri tipi di stampa è più difficile inserire a posteriori l'attribuzione, rispetto alle forme di utilizzo sul web. Ciao Marcello ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-de] Fußgänger-Diskriminierung?
Am 21.04.2015 um 12:08 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 21. April 2015 um 11:14 schrieb Roland Olbricht olbri...@mentzdv.de: Kurze Nachfrage. In wie fern hängen footway/path=sidewalk und sidewalk=detached zusammen, bzw unterschieden die sich? Weil die Frage auf kam: Ich verwende path=sidewalk, da ich mich an kein explizit gemappten highway=cycleway;cycleway=track errinnern kann. Aber was spricht gegen cycleway=sidewalk ? Danke für den Hinweis. Das ist (für Fußwege) ziemlich genau das, was ich gesucht habe und zu Jochens Vorschlag passt. Dass es zusätzlich sidwalk=detached gibt, liegt vermutlich daran, dass der russische Nutzer ebenfalls das Tag footway=sidewalk nicht gefunden hat. sidewalk=detached ist doch eher sowas wie footway=track, d.h. ein von der Straße unabhängiger bzw. baulich getrennter Fußweg in Nähe der Straße, im Gegensatz zu einem klar zur Straße gehörenden, nur durch einen Bordstein abgetrennten Gehweg. Ich hätte es jetzt an den Straße (highway=*) analog zu sidewalk=both/left/right/no verwendet. Es sollte mit in die Wiki-Dokumentation zu highway=footway aufgenommen werden: http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/DE:Tag:highway%3Dfootway In diesem Fall reicht es sogar, das nur in der deutschen Version nachzuziehen. m.E. wäre es von vornherein sinnvoll gewesen, Gehwege mit einem anderen tag als völlig unabhängige, eigenständige Fußwege zu taggen, und vielleicht ginge das auch jetzt noch einzuführen. +1 highway=sidepath oder sideway=footway/path/cycleway Ciao fly ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-it] Confini aggiornati
Ma e' giusto che ci siano ancora delle zone extraterritoriali in Italia? http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/40.97168/13.98165 Ma un bell'aggiornamento massivo dei confini ai valori 2011 dell'Istat e delle linee di costa si puo' fare? Saluti Sbiri ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Altro caso di mancata attribuzione
Am 21.04.2015 um 14:58 schrieb Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: Se correggono errori e aggiungono civici devono anche restituire le modifiche/aggiunte in osm ? si ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Dati Regione Emilia Romagna e Toscana
Il giorno 21/apr/2015, alle ore 08:56, talk-it-requ...@openstreetmap.org ha scritto: Che licenza hanno i WMS? Hanno licenza CC-BY 2.5 http://geoportale.regione.emilia-romagna.it/Projects/geoportale/get_license_view?tipo_licenza=CC-BY%202.5 come quasi tutti i dati distribuiti dalla regione Emilia Romagna, nelle più varie forme. Se verrà controllata mi sembra buono Se poi corteggi i dati anche su osm, meglio ;) La mappa finale prenderà i dati da oso, quindi li correggerò senz’altro :-) Marco___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On 21/04/2015 08:01, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I'm seeking additional local input on this tagging. Elsan is simply a trade name for a chemical toilet (likewise Portapotti). So your cassette tagging covers these use cases. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] Modello lettera mancata attribuzione
Il 21/04/2015 09:21, aborruso ha scritto: Solo una cosa. Io non avrei tolto la richiesta diretta e semplice messa quasi a inizio testo: Si richiede che l'attribuzione sia © OpenStreetMap contributors, con il link alla pagina di Copyright (http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright). D'accordo con Andrea, la lettera deve necessariamente contenere tutte le informazioni. Non vedo l'ora perchè ne devo giusto mandare una copia al nostro #censura# Comune di Genova. Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [newbie] Deux questions sur mode édition avec ID
pierzen wrote Clique sur les points au niveau de la rue. C'est le 36 rue Molière. Merci, mais je ne comprends pas. points : je clique sur la rue Molière ou sur un des nœuds qu'elle contient, mais l'icône du café n'est toujours pas visible. Y a-t-il une vidéo qui montre la manip? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/newbie-Deux-questions-sur-mode-edition-avec-ID-tp5841089p5841289.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On 21/04/2015 10:01, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: In the UK is the Elsan trade name used for both the mobile toilet and the fixed spot to empty it? It appears the intent of the elsan_point tag in the UK was the later ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tELRMqFZKM ). Yes. This dates from the days when Elsan had the market to themselves in UK, so elsan became the generic term for any chemical toilet (This also happened with vacuum cleaners Hoover - we still refer to any vacuum cleaner as ‘a hoover’). So the word elsan made its way onto the signage for chemical toilet emptying points. --- Note the comparable USA term porta-potty refers to a portable chemical toilet with no separate cassette (usually dragged by trailer to events, construction activity, or in camping areas without sewer access). Note the spelling: “Porta Potti” is a trade name of the Thetford Corporation and refers their chemical toilet products. On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Paul Sladen o...@paul.sladen.org mailto:o...@paul.sladen.org wrote: Most canal-side/marina-side are accessed-protected using a 'BWB' key; There also seems to be a card: https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/boating/navigating-the-waterways/services-for-boats/how-to-buy-your-pump-out-card I'm not sure which OSM mapped elsan_points are part of the CRT key system, but the network tag was designed for use by someone who does. Waterside facilities provided by CRT (previously known as British Waterways Board - BWB) are accessed by use of a key issued to all waterway license holders. Chemical toilet emptying points are usually within these facilities. Pump-out stations, on the other hand, are necessarily outside usage is controlled by pre-paid charge cards which activate the pump. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-cz] Hromadná kontrola relací
Ahoj, nevíte jestli existuje nějaký nástroj nejlépe na hromadnou kontrolu lineárních relací? Potřeboval bych nějak upozornit, zda jsou cesty v relaci někde přerušené nebo se v ní vyskytují ocásky (někdo protáhl cestu a nevšiml si že je na ní relace). Díky Vašek ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-de] Fußgänger-Diskriminierung?
Hallo zusammen, Kurze Nachfrage. In wie fern hängen footway/path=sidewalk und sidewalk=detached zusammen, bzw unterschieden die sich? Danke für den Hinweis. Das ist (für Fußwege) ziemlich genau das, was ich gesucht habe und zu Jochens Vorschlag passt. Dass es zusätzlich sidwalk=detached gibt, liegt vermutlich daran, dass der russische Nutzer ebenfalls das Tag footway=sidewalk nicht gefunden hat. Es sollte mit in die Wiki-Dokumentation zu highway=footway aufgenommen werden: http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/DE:Tag:highway%3Dfootway In diesem Fall reicht es sogar, das nur in der deutschen Version nachzuziehen. Nun bräuchten wir ein ähnliches Tag für straßenbegleitende Radwege. Ob es noch andere straßenbegleitende Wege gibt und insofern ein allgemeinerer Ansatz Sinn ergibt, weiß ich nicht. I.e. ein Router kann bei Vorhandensein von footway=sidewalk den Namen der nächstgelegenen Straße holen Das ist eben algorithmisch nicht sinnvoll lösbar. Dazu möchte ich an das Beispiel In der Beek (Fußweg ziemlich weit weg, trotzdem ersetzt er den Fußweg an der Straße) erinnern. Vermutlich gibt es auch den umgekehrten Fall, bei denen mehrere Straßen als Namensgeber in Frage kämen, aber da habe ich gerade keines zur Hand. Man kann mit Heuristiken gute Trefferquoten erreichen, aber ich würde daher die Empfehlung ins Wiki schreiben wollen, den Namen einzutragen. Umgekehrt ist Name ignorieren, wenn footway=sidewalk ein sehr einfacher Algorithmus. Aus ähnlichem Grund tragen wir bei Adressen im Allgemeinen ja auch den Straßennamen erneut mit ein. Weil es auf überraschend viele Arten mehrdeutige Situationen geben kann, auch wenn die meisten Gebäude an einer eindeutig bestimmbaren Straße liegen. Viele Grüße, Roland ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Iets voor Koningsdag?
op zich leuk, maar er worden heel veel tijdelijke urinoirs neergezet die natuurlijk niet in OSM staan. ik kan het weten, ik heb ooit eens meegewerkt aan 'Urinwaar' :) 2015-04-21 8:36 GMT+02:00 Pander OpenTaal pan...@opentaal.org: Iets om te ontwikkelen voor Koningsdag? https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/837 ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM for computer game terrain, what is the open derivative database?
The wiki is the wiki ... aka anybody can edit it. You should likely not be relying on it as primary source for legal advice for your company. Specifically the page in question has a header that reads: This wiki page was used for discussion and development of the move to the Open Database License. It is not legal advice, and is likely to be inaccurate or incomplete. Please do not use this page as a reference for what you can or can't do. That is meant seriously. Please have a look at http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Community_Guidelines for current clarifications and guidelines (likely horizontal layers and trivial transformations). While I'm sure cloud storage providers would love us to do so, we do not require essentially unmodified extracted OSM data to be provided separately. Simon Am 20.04.2015 um 23:34 schrieb Carey, Dan: I've read the section here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Use_Cases#Embedding_OSM_data_into_other_products.2Fapplications and the response: OK as long as the games company also provides an offer of the open derivative DB free from technical measures in parallel (see Section 4.8b). Otherwise, its explicitly disallowed. My use case is very similar to the linked example as my product is very similar to a video game. My confusion is what open derivative DB and free from technical measures means in my situation. My use case is the following: 1. Selectively import OSM derived vector files for geographic map area. 2. Import other raster source data for elevation, 3rd party vectors, models, etc. 3. Massage source data, fixing collisions, artifacts. 3. Use rendering software to create a 3D terrain using all imported data. 4. Process the 3D terrain to extract proprietary formatted data that runs in a publicly sold application. My questions are: 1. What is the open derivative DB free from technical measures in my case above? 2. Besides offering the open derivative DB, and acknowledging OSM as a source, are there any other restrictions on selling the final proprietary format? Thank you for your time, Dan The information contained in this email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Iets voor Koningsdag?
On 04/21/2015 09:45 AM, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: op zich leuk, maar er worden heel veel tijdelijke urinoirs neergezet die natuurlijk niet in OSM staan. ik kan het weten, ik heb ooit eens meegewerkt aan 'Urinwaar' :) :D te grappig Misschien kunnen grote steden meewerken door deze informatie aan te leveren en zal hun oorspronkelijke doel, wildplassen verminderen, helpen. 2015-04-21 8:36 GMT+02:00 Pander OpenTaal pan...@opentaal.org mailto:pan...@opentaal.org: Iets om te ontwikkelen voor Koningsdag? https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/837 ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl -- Stichting OpenTaal http://opentaal.org http://twitter.com/opentaal ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
[talk-ph] OSMAnd now available (free) for iPhone
FYI, https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id934850257 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [Talk-it] JobYourLife: uso non corretto di OSM (mancata attribuzione)
Il giorno 21 aprile 2015 08:55, cesare gerbino cesaregerb...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, JobYourLife mi ha risposto ieri sera, positivamente, e l'attribuzione ora si vede correttamente sulle mappe delle loro pagine. Vi riporto il testo perchè contiene un apprezzamento / ringraziamento al lavoro di tutti i mappers per cui mi sembra giusto riportalo per chi ha speso tempo, fatica ed energie, molto più di me. Grazie Cesare e grazie JobYourLife :-) Stefano = Buonasera, innanzitutto volevo ringraziarla del complimento per l’utilizzo della base cartografica OpenStreetMap. Ci tengo a “reinoltrarle il complimento per essere membro della comunità che ritengo veramente meritevole di elogi. E’ grazie al lavoro suo e di tutti i suoi colleghi che la base cartografica è arrivata all’ottimo livello di adesso. Venendo all’oggetto della sua mail devo purtroppo ammettere che è stata una dimenticanza nostra quella di non includere l’attribution necessaria per l’utilizzo dello strumento. Mi sono quindi attivato oggi stesso per fare la modifica in tutti i punti dell’applicazione che utilizzano le mappe ed ho appena rilasciato in produzione il fix. Si senta libero di farci sapere qualora riscontrasse ancora utilizzi che non rispettino il vincoli di attribuzione. La ringrazio per la segnalazione. Buona serata, Pietro Stracquadanio = Buona giornata Cesare Gerbino http://cesaregerbino.wordpress.com/ http://www.facebook.com/cesare.gerbino http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cesare-Gerbino-GIS-Blog/246234455498174?ref=hl https://twitter.com/CesareGerbino http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cesare-gerbino/56/494/77b Questo è un account di posta personale di Cesare Gerbino: tutte le opinioni espresse sono personali e non riflettono necessariamente quelle del mio datore di lavoro This is Cesare Gerbino mail account. Text is written by Cesare Gerbino: the views expressed are mine and not necessarily those of my employer. . Il giorno 19 aprile 2015 21:55, cesare gerbino cesaregerb...@gmail.com ha scritto: Per JobYourLife posso provare a contattarli io . se non ottengo news / risposte faccio sapere qui ... Grazie Cesare Cesare Gerbino http://cesaregerbino.wordpress.com/ http://www.facebook.com/cesare.gerbino http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cesare-Gerbino-GIS-Blog/246234455498174?ref=hl https://twitter.com/CesareGerbino http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cesare-gerbino/56/494/77b Questo è un account di posta personale di Cesare Gerbino: tutte le opinioni espresse sono personali e non riflettono necessariamente quelle del mio datore di lavoro This is Cesare Gerbino mail account. Text is written by Cesare Gerbino: the views expressed are mine and not necessarily those of my employer. . Il giorno 19 aprile 2015 12:49, Stefano saba...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il giorno 19 aprile 2015 10:57, cesare gerbino cesaregerb...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, per curiosità ho dato un'occhiata a www.jobyourlife.com che è uno dei portali di ricerca lavoro che stà andando per la maggiore dopo averne sentito parlare su mezzi di stampa. Occorre registrarsi al sito per vederne le caratteristiche: tra queste, le richieste e le proposte sono visualizzate su mappe. Le mappe sono quelle di OSM senza ombra di dubbio: non so se qualche vestizione particolare o se fatta ad hoc ma i dati sono quelli. Sulla mappa NON c'è la corretta attribuzione. Mi sono registrato anche io ora e confermo. Il problema sorge mi pare dal mix di piattaforme che usano (Google Maps API e Mapbox :-O ) So che ci sono stati casi precedenti sia nel mondo PA o dintorni, sia verso il mondo business privato: OSM Italia ha un modello per come richiedere di sistemare la cosa o delle best practises da cui prendere spunto? Io stavo per postare pubblicamente sulla pagina facebook col profilo OSM Italia, ma aspetto se qualcuno li volesse contattare via mail... Grazie Cesare Cesare Gerbino Ciao, Stefano http://cesaregerbino.wordpress.com/ http://www.facebook.com/cesare.gerbino http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cesare-Gerbino-GIS-Blog/246234455498174?ref=hl https://twitter.com/CesareGerbino http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cesare-gerbino/56/494/77b Questo è un account di posta personale di Cesare Gerbino: tutte le opinioni espresse sono personali e non riflettono necessariamente quelle del mio datore di lavoro This is Cesare Gerbino mail account. Text is written by Cesare Gerbino: the views expressed are mine and not necessarily those of my employer. . ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [newbie] Deux questions sur mode édition avec ID
J'ai trouvé : il faut zoomer suffisamment, et des points apparaissent: http://s4.postimg.org/4ywbs11tp/OSM_zoom_points.png Merci. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/newbie-Deux-questions-sur-mode-edition-avec-ID-tp5841089p5841291.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-it] Altro caso di mancata attribuzione
A giudicare da quanti casi di mancata attribuzione si scoprono devo dire che la nostra mappa sta diventando veramente popolare! Pochi giorni fa ho visto un pannello con la mappa della città posizionato presso la porta principale, ho riconosciuto immediatamente la fonte, quindi ho scritto all'ufficio del turismo per segnalare la mancata attribuzione. Mi hanno risposto che provvederanno a far aggiungere l'attribuzione nelle prossime ristampe, che devono fare dato che è presente anche qualche errore. Tra l'altro ho scoperto che ne hanno anche una versione cartacea. Hanno chiesto spiegazioni alla ditta realizzatrice, la quale ha risposto che non pensava di dover mettere alcuna attribuzione, avendo 'ridisegnato' la mappa. Il pannello è questo: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7K8A-AwEeK_N1lOaVRKb2oxeVE/view?usp=sharing, la zona è questa: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/42.55669/12.41418 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/42.55669/12.41418 Purtroppo per le mappe cartacee o altri tipi di stampa è più difficile inserire a posteriori l'attribuzione, rispetto alle forme di utilizzo sul web. Ciao Marcello ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Altro caso di mancata attribuzione
2015-04-21 12:12 GMT+02:00 Marcello arca...@gmail.com: Purtroppo per le mappe cartacee o altri tipi di stampa è più difficile inserire a posteriori l'attribuzione, rispetto alle forme di utilizzo sul web. sarebbe interessante sapere quante persone vivono in quella zona. Wikipedia dice 11 mila per tutto il comune. Se sono meno di 1000 non dovrebbero nemmeno attribuire ;-) http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline Ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Balises sonores pour aveugles
Hello, Cela me semble également nécessaire pour le routing et ne contrevient pas au but de décrire le réel. donc banco. D'autres remarques ? Le start=* vous parait réglementaire ? ;) Le 20 avril 2015 18:35, ZIMMERMANN Jean-Louis jeanlouis_zimmerm...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Le principe semble bon. Par contre je pense qu'il est bon de garder le positionnement du point balise sur la trace de guidage tactile : les 2 en général sont complémentaire. Qu'en penses-tu ? Jean-Louis -- *De :* Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr *À :* Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org *Cc :* Jean-Louis Zimmermann jeanlouis_zimmerm...@yahoo.fr *Envoyé le :* Lundi 20 avril 2015 17h32 *Objet :* [OSM-talk-fr] Balises sonores pour aveugles Salut, Je souhaite taguer des balises sonores qui guident des aveugles dans des bâtiments publics, comme décrit sur cette page : http://www.activeaudio.fr/accessibilite-deficients-visuels/balise-sonore-de-guidage Je ne vois rien sur le wiki ni ici http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_for_the_blind ni là http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Disabilities On est bien d'accord que information=audioguide ne convient pas pour ce système très spécialisé. Et vu qu'on a information=tactile_map et information=tactile_model je me dis qu'une balise sonore pourrait être *information=audio_beacon* Autres attributs : déclenchement automatique : start=automatic déclenchement manuel : start=manual diffuse des messages de localisation : audio_beacon=location diffuse des messages d'orientation : audio_beacon=guidance C'est du bon ? -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Malcolm Herring malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com wrote: On 21/04/2015 08:01, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I'm seeking additional local input on this tagging. Elsan is simply a trade name for a chemical toilet (likewise Portapotti). So your cassette tagging covers these use cases. In the UK is the Elsan trade name used for both the mobile toilet and the fixed spot to empty it? It appears the intent of the elsan_point tag in the UK was the later ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tELRMqFZKM ). --- Note the comparable USA term porta-potty refers to a portable chemical toilet with no separate cassette (usually dragged by trailer to events, construction activity, or in camping areas without sewer access). On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Paul Sladen o...@paul.sladen.org wrote: Most canal-side/marina-side are accessed-protected using a 'BWB' key; There also seems to be a card: https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/boating/navigating-the-waterways/services-for-boats/how-to-buy-your-pump-out-card I'm not sure which OSM mapped elsan_points are part of the CRT key system, but the network tag was designed for use by someone who does. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-de] Fußgänger-Diskriminierung?
Am 21. April 2015 um 11:14 schrieb Roland Olbricht olbri...@mentzdv.de: Hallo zusammen, Kurze Nachfrage. In wie fern hängen footway/path=sidewalk und sidewalk=detached zusammen, bzw unterschieden die sich? Danke für den Hinweis. Das ist (für Fußwege) ziemlich genau das, was ich gesucht habe und zu Jochens Vorschlag passt. Dass es zusätzlich sidwalk=detached gibt, liegt vermutlich daran, dass der russische Nutzer ebenfalls das Tag footway=sidewalk nicht gefunden hat. sidewalk=detached ist doch eher sowas wie footway=track, d.h. ein von der Straße unabhängiger bzw. baulich getrennter Fußweg in Nähe der Straße, im Gegensatz zu einem klar zur Straße gehörenden, nur durch einen Bordstein abgetrennten Gehweg. Es sollte mit in die Wiki-Dokumentation zu highway=footway aufgenommen werden: http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/DE:Tag:highway%3Dfootway In diesem Fall reicht es sogar, das nur in der deutschen Version nachzuziehen. m.E. wäre es von vornherein sinnvoll gewesen, Gehwege mit einem anderen tag als völlig unabhängige, eigenständige Fußwege zu taggen, und vielleicht ginge das auch jetzt noch einzuführen. Das ist eben algorithmisch nicht sinnvoll lösbar. Dazu möchte ich an das Beispiel In der Beek (Fußweg ziemlich weit weg, trotzdem ersetzt er den Fußweg an der Straße) erinnern. sooo weit ist der nun auch nicht weg, sieht so aus wie 10-15 höchstens 20 Meter (die Straße ist so schlecht gemappt dass es nicht ganz klar ist), und nur auf einem kurzen Teilstück geht er auf die andere Bachseite. Wir reden hier über diesen Weg, oder? http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/148710392#map=17/51.26550/7.10803 Ich habe hier ein Beispiel, wo der Fußweg eher nicht zur Straße gehört (sondern zum Fluss), er hat allerdings keinen Namen, zumindest steht kein Schild da: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/225544809 (Auf der anderen Seite ist die Situation vergleichbar, wenn auch leicht anders, da der Weg dort als Fahrradweg deklariert und durchgehend befestigt ist). Der Weg ist durch eine Stützmauer von der Straße getrennt und liegt ca. 10 Meter tiefer (nur über Treppen erreichbar, geht jeweils unter den Brücken durch). Beim Vererben des Namens nur über die räumliche Nähe würde man da sicherlich einen Fehler machen, vor allem auch, da die Stützmauer bisher nicht überall gemappt ist, und da der Weg vermutlich keinen Namen hat, also auch keiner gemappt ist (ggf. könnte man ein noname=yes hacken, aber sicher bin ich mir nicht, dass er wirklich keinen Namen hat). Hingegen entfernt sich der Fuß-Radweg hier in Teilstücken ähnlich wie in Rolands Beispiel ein ganzes Stück von der Straße und ggf. würde es Sinn machen, dort den Namen explizit einzutragen, da es sich um denselben handelt wie den der Hauptstraße: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23953166#map=19/41.85151/12.48724 Footway=sidewalk würde ich allerdings nicht taggen, da es auch an der Straße noch einen kleinen Gehweg gibt. Ansonsten gebe ich dem Titel des Threads Recht, es wäre in der Tat eine Diskrimierung von Fußgängern und Radfahrern, wenn deren Straßenteile jeweils durch Vererbung ihren Namen bekommen sollen, aber bei Straßen immer der Name eingetragen wird, auch wenn es nur kleine Nebenstraßen sind, die denselben Namen wie die Hauptstraße tragen, so wie z.B. hier: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/256547662#map=19/41.85218/12.48686 Oder hier: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24874249#map=19/41.86514/12.49735 Da käme ja auch keiner auf die Idee, den Namen wegzulassen, damit das gewünschte Rendering-Ergebnis erzielt wird. Gruß, Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[OSM-talk] iD Security
Hi All, I've been using iD for a bit now to make map edits. I've been reporting back issues with iD to Bryan including a recent discovery that when you log out of iD, as it doesn't clear local cookies someone else can log in as you in your absence. Bryan isn't interested in remedying this issue so I wondered what other users felt about it. -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] iD Security
Mike, Have you filed a bug report on their issue tracker? https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues I quick search didn't reveal anything. https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93q=cookie - Serge On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:39 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi All, I've been using iD for a bit now to make map edits. I've been reporting back issues with iD to Bryan including a recent discovery that when you log out of iD, as it doesn't clear local cookies someone else can log in as you in your absence. Bryan isn't interested in remedying this issue so I wondered what other users felt about it. -- Mike. @millomweb - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via the area's premier website - currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets TCs ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] iD Security
Seeing the ticket, I think that the behavior here is what I'd expect it to be, and what I think many people would expect as well. It doesn't seem like this is related to iD ignoring cookies, but about how you were logged into an account and authorized iD to edit on behalf of one of them. I'm not sure that iD could really be doing anything radically different. This is no different than other sites which use cross site authentication systems, ie Google, Facebook, etc. As for it being a security issue- if you logged out of osm.org before authenticating yourself from iD, then yes, I see a potential serious problem, but that's not what I see reported here. - Serge On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote: Please link to the ticket: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2588 On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:39 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi All, I've been using iD for a bit now to make map edits. I've been reporting back issues with iD to Bryan including a recent discovery that when you log out of iD, as it doesn't clear local cookies someone else can log in as you in your absence. Bryan isn't interested in remedying this issue so I wondered what other users felt about it. -- Mike. @millomweb - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via the area's premier website - currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets TCs ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-de] Mechanischer Edit an Eisenbahnsignalen in Deutschland
Hallo, schade, dass diese Diskussion von allen Seiten ein bisschen überhitzt geführt wird. Ich finde, dass solche grossflächigen Edits - ob mechanisch oder nicht - mit sehr grosser Sorgfalt angegangen werden sollten. Dazu zählt, dass man sich gut überlegt, was man machen will, aber auch, dass man mit Einwänden vernünftig umgeht. Von vorn herein nur im Forum zu posten und auf Nachfrage zu erklären, die Mailingliste sei ja eh am Sterben, ist asking for trouble - einen breiten Konsens erreicht man nicht, indem man die (nach eigenem Befinden kleinere) Hälfte der Community ignoriert. Ausserdem sehe ich hier eine gefährliche Tendenz von das ist OpenRailwayMap-Sache, wir haben uns das überlegt, und warum sollten wir auf jemanden hören, der nicht mal zu uns gehört. Folgerichtig hat Michael (Nakaner) seine Aktion auch nicht zur Diskussion gestellt (denn er war sich ja schon sicher, dass er alles richtig macht und sich nicht reinreden lassen wird), sondern nur angekündigt. Ich finde, dass das insgesamt einen unnötig arroganten Eindruck macht, und Nakaner hat ja auch Erfolg gehabt, indem fly auf die Barrikaden gegangen ist. Ich bin sicher, das OpenRailwayMap-Team wird tolerant und freundlich bleiben, wenn fly demnächst sein neues Signaltaggingschema auf talk-de (und nicht im Forum) ankündigt dann anfängt (sorgsam und manuell natürlich) alle deutschen Signale umzustellen ;) Das ist alles in allem ziemlich schlecht gelaufen, und künftige ähnliche Aktionen sollten mit mehr Respekt gegenüber der Community, auch gegenüber der Minderheit auf talk-de und den Aussenseitern ausserhalb OpenRailwayMap durchgeführt werden, oder eben gar nicht. Es ist etwas ungeschickt, dass fly selbst nicht auf der OpenRailwayMap-Mailingliste ist und sich zugleich gern an der weiteren Diskussion bezüglich Tagging von Eisenbahnanlagen beteiligen will. Wäre er auf dieser Liste gewesen, hätte er vermutlich im Vorfeld an der Diskussion teilnehmen können, statt Verbesserungsvorschläge erst einzubringen, als der Edit angekündigt wurde. (Dann wieder - OpenRailwayMap ist eine private Mailingliste auf einer privaten Domain, wo der private Betreiber jeden rauswerfen kann, der ihm nicht passt - insofern stellt sich die Frage, ob eine Meinungsbildung auf der OpenRailwayMap-Liste für OSM überhaupt eine Bedeutung haben sollte.) Ich habe jetzt keine Lust, die hier diskutierten Edits zu reverten, aber ich erwarte künftig vom OpenRailwayMap-Team, dass sie den Rest des Projekts nicht wie Idioten behandeln, die ja eh nichts zu sagen haben, sondern dass man sie und ihre Bedenken ernst nimmt. Dazu zählt, dass man seine Edits nicht bloss ankündigt, sondern tatsächlich innerlich zu Kompromissen bereit ist, und dazu zählt auch, dass man auf talk-de nicht bloss auftaucht, um Leuten mitzuteilen, dass man mit ihnen jetzt nicht mehr spricht. Ich sehe nicht ein, wieso die Data Working Group extra Arbeit haben soll, bloss weil jemand einen Edit mit dem gerade noch akzeptablen Minimum an Respekt durchziehen will, wenn es nun wirklich nicht schwer gewesen wäre, Konflikte zu vermeiden. Klar ist die Reaktion von fly überhitzt, aber er wurde auch provoziert, und das war unnötig. Die Data Working Group braucht ihre Zeit für Fälle, in denen sich Idioten die Köpfe einschlagen, und nicht für Fälle, bei denen an sich vernünftige und intelligente Mapper mal austesten, wie weit sie gehen können. Das bitte ich künftig zu beachten, *besonders* bei künftigen großflächigen Eisenbahn-Edits, aber eigentlich sowieso immer. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk] iD Security
Please link to the ticket: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2588 On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:39 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi All, I've been using iD for a bit now to make map edits. I've been reporting back issues with iD to Bryan including a recent discovery that when you log out of iD, as it doesn't clear local cookies someone else can log in as you in your absence. Bryan isn't interested in remedying this issue so I wondered what other users felt about it. -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Routing over areas
I wonder if similar adjustments could be made for streets with a low speed limit, especially where there are no pedestrian crossings nearby (be it imperfect data or there aren't any). Seems crazy to suggest that pedestrians and cyclers get a routing suggestion to go around to the end of the road and back to the other side instead of crossing the road *in the cases where a sane person would do exactly that*. Of course, it might need some extra tags to prevent suggestions like that where such behaviour is prohibited. - Svavar Kjarrval On 20/04/15 21:25, Rob Nickerson wrote: Interesting article for any routing experts: http://anitagraser.com/2015/04/17/routing-in-polygon-layers-yes-we-can/ Rob ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Taginfo.fr et JOSM
L'API-FR est actuellement down... problème de (vieux) disque sur le (vieux) serveur... Le 21/04/2015 15:33, Vincent Pottier a écrit : Bonjour, Sur les pages de Taginfo fr (par exemple [1]) en cliquant sur le lien JOSM à droite, j'obtiens un message d'erreur dans JOSM [2] : Impossible d'ouvrir l'URL 'http://oapi-fr.openstreetmap.fr/xapi/xapi?*[social_facility%3Dgroup_home]' Les tâches de téléchargement acceptent les modèles d'URL suivants: (Suit une liste de modèle d'url) C'est un problème Taginfo ou JOSM ? [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.fr/tags/social_facility=group_home [2] JOSM version 8240 -- FrViPofm ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] iD Security
On 21 April 2015 at 15:58, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Seeing the ticket, I think that the behavior here is what I'd expect it to be, and what I think many people would expect as well. It doesn't seem like this is related to iD ignoring cookies, but about how you were logged into an account and authorized iD to edit on behalf of one of them. I'm not sure that iD could really be doing anything radically different. This is no different than other sites which use cross site authentication systems, ie Google, Facebook, etc. As for it being a security issue- if you logged out of osm.org before authenticating yourself from iD, then yes, I see a potential serious problem, but that's not what I see reported here. - Serge So if I'm logged in to osm as FRED you think it's ok for iD to allow me to use DERF's account - as that is what happened. -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging POI's - Nodes vs. areas
If you use a relation shouldn't it be a site relation instead of a multipolygon? On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:24 PM Bryan Housel br...@7thposition.com wrote: `amenity=hospital` is what makes it a proper hospital. You can create a node where the hospital is, or an area around the property of the hospital. Drawing either a node or an area is ok, but drawing areas is preferred if you have time for it. If the hospital is just one building, you can add `building=yes` or `building=hospital` to the amenity. If the hospital is a campus of several buildings, you can draw each building as well. `building=*` (anything) should make it render like a building/structure. The actual value of the building tag is not really used often (it’s considered a description of what the building looks like, not what it is), so most buildings are just tagged as `building=yes` unless they are really special somehow. Thanks, Bryan On Apr 21, 2015, at 9:58 AM, EthnicFood IsGreat ethnicfoodisgr...@gmail.com wrote: I want to know how to tag buildings which are also amenities or shops. I have consulted the wiki and I cannot find a clear explanation of this. Say you have a building which is a hospital. One way to tag the polygon would be building = hospital. Another way would be amenity = hospital. Another way would be to simply tag the building as building = yes and then place a node inside the building polygon and tag the node as amenity = hospital. I'm thinking in terms of how the hospital will show up in the various renderers. Do most renderers require the amenity tag in order to display a hospital symbol at that location? (In other words, what happens if I just use the building = hospital tag on the polygon and no amenity tag?) And what about the hospital name? Do I include it with the building polygon or the node? Or both? This is very confusing. It seems there is a certain amount of overlap when it comes to the application of building, amenity, and shop tags. Mark Bradley ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging POI's - Nodes vs. areas
Mark, You're correct- there's no set standard here. OSM uses folksonomies which overlap and change over time. Specifically the question of tagging amenties or shops as buildings or nodes is one where we as a community don't have complete consensus. The general feeling in the US from my experience is that if a building is only used for one thing, then tag it as such. Your example of a hospital is exactly right- and so are many schools. But then you have places where buildings are multi-use. I live in Manhattan and single use buildings are the exception rather than the norm here, so amenities or shops are usually tagged as nodes within the bounds of the building. You're right that even here, hospitals are exceptions- so are many (but not all) schools, and many (but not all) places of worship. To add to the confusion, you didn't even bring up the issue of relations. What if a hospital consists of multiple buildings? That would be a good candidate for a multipolygon relation, in which case you'd add the tags like name to the relation. Getting back to your question- this is a matter of opinion but here's what I'd do if I was you: If the building is a hospital, tag it as such. If the hospital has only one building, the name of the hospital is the name of the building. If the hospital is a subsection of a larger building (floors 1-3) then tag it as a node. If the hospital is multi-building, then I'd tag each building as building=hospital, set the name to whatever the building names are (Building 1, or Heart and Lung Center), then make a multipolygon relation consisting of each of the hospital facility, and set the hospital name there. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-it] Confini aggiornati
Il 21/apr/2015 16:19, Federico Cortese cortese...@gmail.com ha scritto: [...] e ci scontriamo con l'annosa questione della licenza della CTR Puglia, che tutti conosciamo. No, Federico, non proprio tutti. :-( Ciao /niubii/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Confini aggiornati
Il giorno 21 aprile 2015 15:56, Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com ha scritto: Son sicuro che Valle d'Aosta, Sardegna e provincia di Genova sono ISTAT 2011 (l'ho fatto io), Dapal credo avesse fatto la Sicilia. Forse c'era anche una pagina dove se ne teneva traccia, non ricordo. In Friuli Venezia Giulia abbiamo importato a suo tempo i dati messi a disposizione dalla regione che li calcola a partire da dati del catasto (confrontandoli con altre basi dati), poi sul confine sloveno e austriaco abbiamo sistemato le cose assieme ai nostri vicini (c'è qualcuno che è andato a vedere dove sono i cippi di confine ...). Sono abbastanza confidente che siano dati migliori degli ISTAT 2011 ;-) Ovvio, se c'è la CTR è meglio :-) Altra indicazione: in molte regioni il confine l'abbiamo fatto coincidere con la linea di costa, suggerisco dove non è così di procedere ad unire il confine alla linea di costa. Potresti formulare meglio ? sempre in FVG i confini (sia comunali che regionali) includono anche la laguna, penso sia lo stesso per la laguna di Venezia. Intendo applicare il tag boundary alla linea di costa dove applicabile (a seconda di come si interpreta la legislazione in merito anche). A Genova ad esempio i confini li ho fatti passare sulla diga foranea. ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/44875#map=13/44.4056/8.9263) Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Taginfo.fr et JOSM
ca a l'air de marcher avec overpass ... http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/8V5 Le mardi 21 avril 2015 à 15:33 +0200, Vincent Pottier a écrit : Bonjour, Sur les pages de Taginfo fr (par exemple [1]) en cliquant sur le lien JOSM à droite, j'obtiens un message d'erreur dans JOSM [2] : Impossible d'ouvrir l'URL 'http://oapi-fr.openstreetmap.fr/xapi/xapi?*[social_facility% 3Dgroup_home]' Les tâches de téléchargement acceptent les modèles d'URL suivants: (Suit une liste de modèle d'url) C'est un problème Taginfo ou JOSM ? [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.fr/tags/social_facility=group_home [2] JOSM version 8240 -- FrViPofm ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk] Tagging POI's - Nodes vs. areas
I want to know how to tag buildings which are also amenities or shops. I have consulted the wiki and I cannot find a clear explanation of this. Say you have a building which is a hospital. One way to tag the polygon would be building = hospital. Another way would be amenity = hospital. Another way would be to simply tag the building as building = yes and then place a node inside the building polygon and tag the node as amenity = hospital. I'm thinking in terms of how the hospital will show up in the various renderers. Do most renderers require the amenity tag in order to display a hospital symbol at that location? (In other words, what happens if I just use the building = hospital tag on the polygon and no amenity tag?) And what about the hospital name? Do I include it with the building polygon or the node? Or both? This is very confusing. It seems there is a certain amount of overlap when it comes to the application of building, amenity, and shop tags. Mark Bradley ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging POI's - Nodes vs. areas
`amenity=hospital` is what makes it a proper hospital. You can create a node where the hospital is, or an area around the property of the hospital. Drawing either a node or an area is ok, but drawing areas is preferred if you have time for it. If the hospital is just one building, you can add `building=yes` or `building=hospital` to the amenity. If the hospital is a campus of several buildings, you can draw each building as well. `building=*` (anything) should make it render like a building/structure. The actual value of the building tag is not really used often (it’s considered a description of what the building looks like, not what it is), so most buildings are just tagged as `building=yes` unless they are really special somehow. Thanks, Bryan On Apr 21, 2015, at 9:58 AM, EthnicFood IsGreat ethnicfoodisgr...@gmail.com wrote: I want to know how to tag buildings which are also amenities or shops. I have consulted the wiki and I cannot find a clear explanation of this. Say you have a building which is a hospital. One way to tag the polygon would be building = hospital. Another way would be amenity = hospital. Another way would be to simply tag the building as building = yes and then place a node inside the building polygon and tag the node as amenity = hospital. I'm thinking in terms of how the hospital will show up in the various renderers. Do most renderers require the amenity tag in order to display a hospital symbol at that location? (In other words, what happens if I just use the building = hospital tag on the polygon and no amenity tag?) And what about the hospital name? Do I include it with the building polygon or the node? Or both? This is very confusing. It seems there is a certain amount of overlap when it comes to the application of building, amenity, and shop tags. Mark Bradley ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-it] JobYourLife: uso non corretto di OSM (mancata attribuzione)
2015-04-21 8:55 GMT+02:00 cesare gerbino cesaregerb...@gmail.com: Ciao a tutti, ciao, JobYourLife mi ha risposto ieri sera, positivamente, e l'attribuzione ora si vede correttamente sulle mappe delle loro pagine. anche tutti i casi a cui l'ho segnalato io, hanno sempre risposto affermativamente Vi riporto il testo perchè contiene un apprezzamento / ringraziamento al lavoro di tutti i mappers per cui mi sembra giusto riportalo per chi ha speso tempo, fatica ed energie, molto più di me. = Buonasera, innanzitutto volevo ringraziarla del complimento per l’utilizzo della base cartografica OpenStreetMap. Ci tengo a “reinoltrarle il complimento per essere membro della comunità che ritengo veramente meritevole di elogi. E’ grazie al lavoro suo e di tutti i suoi colleghi che la base cartografica è arrivata all’ottimo livello di adesso. Venendo all’oggetto della sua mail devo purtroppo ammettere che è stata una dimenticanza nostra quella di non includere l’attribution necessaria per l’utilizzo dello strumento. Mi sono quindi attivato oggi stesso per fare la modifica in tutti i punti dell’applicazione che utilizzano le mappe ed ho appena rilasciato in produzione il fix. Si senta libero di farci sapere qualora riscontrasse ancora utilizzi che non rispettino il vincoli di attribuzione. La ringrazio per la segnalazione. Buona serata, Pietro Stracquadanio = complimenti, per la velocità e le parole Buona giornata Cesare Gerbino -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[OSM-talk-fr] Taginfo.fr et JOSM
Bonjour, Sur les pages de Taginfo fr (par exemple [1]) en cliquant sur le lien JOSM à droite, j'obtiens un message d'erreur dans JOSM [2] : Impossible d'ouvrir l'URL 'http://oapi-fr.openstreetmap.fr/xapi/xapi?*[social_facility%3Dgroup_home]' Les tâches de téléchargement acceptent les modèles d'URL suivants: (Suit une liste de modèle d'url) C'est un problème Taginfo ou JOSM ? [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.fr/tags/social_facility=group_home [2] JOSM version 8240 -- FrViPofm ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] Altro caso di mancata attribuzione
Il 21 aprile 2015 15:23, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: Am 21.04.2015 um 14:58 schrieb Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: Se correggono errori e aggiungono civici devono anche restituire le modifiche/aggiunte in osm ? si no, però è li modo più semplice perché IMHO se lo fanno è sufficiente che comunichino gli id dei changeset per essere in regola con l'ODbL gli obblighi sono di fornire o tutto il database, o le modifiche vere e proprie o il metodo per rifare le modifiche: 4.6 Access to Derivative Databases. If You Publicly Use a Derivative Database or a Produced Work from a Derivative Database, You must also offer to recipients of the Derivative Database or Produced Work a copy in a machine readable form of: a. The entire Derivative Database; or b. A file containing all of the alterations made to the Database or the method of making the alterations to the Database (such as an algorithm), including any additional Contents, that make up all the differences between the Database and the Derivative Database. -- Daniele Forsi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-in] Weekend Mapping: Shravanabelagola
Wow, this is looking great: http://osm.org/go/yyw4YRnW On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Chetan H A chetanh...@gmail.com wrote: This is a interesting place and called as *Jain Kashi* by people around there. Let's do the mapping of this most sacred place. As I too posses little local knowledge of *Shravanabelagola*. Thank you, Chetan On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Yogesh yog...@kalike.org wrote: I used to be there in Belagola(locally called) every year during college days and have some local knowledge of the place. Lets do this. Interestingly, Hassan district website has various maps(about 45 including special thematic maps) prepared by NRDMS Center which we don't usually see in other district websites. http://hassan.nic.in/htmls/various_maps.htm thanks, yogi On Friday 17 April 2015 04:17 PM, shravan wrote: I have been to this place. I'll get onto this. Thanks, Shravan (shravan91) http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/shravan91 On 17 April 2015 at 16:12, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: Planning on making a tourist map of Shravanabelagola this weekend. If anyone has personal knowledge of the place, it would be great if you can add/correct info to the map. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/12.8598/76.4863 -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing listTalk-in@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-ro] Adrese Ramnicu Valcea - import manual
În data de 21 aprilie 2015, 16:48, Badita Florin baditaflo...@gmail.com a scris: Am obtinut de la Ramnic cu Valcea lista cu toate adresele pe care le au ei, nu contin si strazile , ca si informatie directa, dar se poate deduce de pe harta. Voiam sa intreb daca vreti sa le importam, si daca da, cine ar dori sa se ocupe de acest lucru ? Lista cu toate adresele, precum si denumirile strazilor, extrase din PUG, se gaseste aici https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7aOUf0DFRnLfndIa04tWjlRM3JCajlXOF92bDF4WXhRYXZPUzR6ejJyY1ZWaFYzajNEaU0usp=sharing Pune te rog și addr:city la toate adresele, ca să meargă mai bine scripturile (cel puțin ale mele). De asemenea, vezi că în lista de străzi sunt unele care nu par a fi corecte: Spre S A L I S T E A INTRAREA MARIA etc. Strainu ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [Talk-us] No Parallel/Resize or Copy/Paste in iD editor?
This is great, we're using a recent build of iD and we love the cmd/ctrl-C/V commands, it has really made our editing a lot quicker! On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Bryan Housel br...@7thposition.com wrote: iD will use the modifier key Cmd on Mac and Ctrl on Windows/Linux. It adjusts the popup tooltips to say the correct thing too. I didn't put anything in the builtin help yet about Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V but I do intend to. I only added the copy buffer code in the latest release a month ago. Also I'll probably be implanting a popup help page to list all the keyboard shortcuts sometime in the next few months. Thanks, Bryan Sent from my iPhone On Apr 20, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Bryan, Do you mean Control-C and Control-V, which are the usual Windows way to copy and paste? --C At 07:19 AM 4/19/2015, you wrote: On Apr 18, 2015, at 8:39 PM, David Wisbey yourvillagem...@yahoo.com wrote: don't see any way to create parallel features (or Copy and Paste as in JOSM). We don't have a way to create parallel features yet, but there is an open issue for it in github. It's something that a lot of people request and I agree would be a useful tool. Copy and paste does now work with cmd-C / cmd-V, this is a recent addition. Thanks, Bryan Sent from my iPhone ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-it] Confini aggiornati
Am 21.04.2015 um 15:21 schrieb Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com: Ma e' giusto che ci siano ancora delle zone extraterritoriali in Italia? http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/40.97168/13.98165 pensavo ti riferissi a questi http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/41.8576/12.4748 (non sono certo che siano giusti) Ma un bell'aggiornamento massivo dei confini ai valori 2011 dell'Istat e delle linee di costa si puo' fare? volendo, ma non è banale perché ci sono anche delle modifiche fatte nel frattempo che si dovrebbe valutare. Com'era ancora la storia dei confini ISTAT, non erano semplificati? Ciao Martin___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSRM-talk] Can hints be used to identify a common segment?
Hi Fernando, Thank you that is a useful observation but my problem is a little different. I have many positions and I would like to determine those that lie on the same segment so that I can group them together. If I remember correctly the hint is a base64 encoded pointer to the edge plus something like and offset along the edge. I could be useful to take advantage of this information to group and order locations along a path. I'll see if I can figure it out from the source code. -Steve On 4/21/2015 8:28 AM, Fernando Pacheco wrote: If both points are in the same segment, their position (third element in route_instructions) should be consecutive. Located on the same street but in different segments (3 and 5): [9, General José Esteban Brito del Pino 122,3,14, 121m, S, 193.1] [9, General José Esteban Brito del Pino, 57,5,21, 56m, S, 191.1] In the same segment (4 and 5): [9, General José Esteban Brito del Pino, 35,4,5, 34m, S, 191.1] [9, General José Esteban Brito del Pino, 56,5,21, 56m, S, 190.1] May be?. Fernando. El 21/04/15 a las 00:24, Stephen Woodbridge escribió: Hi, I have a need to be able to identify if two locations are on the same segment. We already have the hints for each location and there seems to be some commonality in the hints for location on the same segment. I'm wondering if there is a safe way to use the hints to determine if they are on the same segment. Thanks, -Steve --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [Talk-it] Altro caso di mancata attribuzione
Il giorno 21 aprile 2015 14:58, Fabri erfab...@gmail.com ha scritto: Se correggono errori e aggiungono civici devono anche restituire le modifiche/aggiunte in osm ? Se si interviene su un dato OSM _migliorandolo_ bisogna fare tale modifica anche su OSM. Se si sovrappone un dato al dato OSM (quindi sono su due livelli diversi) non è necessario portare questi dati in OSM. Ciao, Stefano On mar 21 apr 2015 12:12:53 CEST, Marcello arca...@gmail.com wrote: A giudicare da quanti casi di mancata attribuzione si scoprono devo dire che la nostra mappa sta diventando veramente popolare! Pochi giorni fa ho visto un pannello con la mappa della città posizionato presso la porta principale, ho riconosciuto immediatamente la fonte, quindi ho scritto all'ufficio del turismo per segnalare la mancata attribuzione. Mi hanno risposto che provvederanno a far aggiungere l'attribuzione nelle prossime ristampe, che devono fare dato che è presente anche qualche errore. Tra l'altro ho scoperto che ne hanno anche una versione cartacea. Hanno chiesto spiegazioni alla ditta realizzatrice, la quale ha risposto che non pensava di dover mettere alcuna attribuzione, avendo 'ridisegnato' la mappa. Il pannello è questo: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7K8A-AwEeK_N1lOaVRKb2oxeVE/view?usp=sharing , la zona è questa: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/42.55669/12.41418 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/42.55669/12.41418 Purtroppo per le mappe cartacee o altri tipi di stampa è più difficile inserire a posteriori l'attribuzione, rispetto alle forme di utilizzo sul web. Ciao Marcello ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-ro] Adrese Ramnicu Valcea - import manual
Am obtinut de la Ramnic cu Valcea lista cu toate adresele pe care le au ei, nu contin si strazile , ca si informatie directa, dar se poate deduce de pe harta. Voiam sa intreb daca vreti sa le importam, si daca da, cine ar dori sa se ocupe de acest lucru ? Lista cu toate adresele, precum si denumirile strazilor, extrase din PUG, se gaseste aici https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7aOUf0DFRnLfndIa04tWjlRM3JCajlXOF92bDF4WXhRYXZPUzR6ejJyY1ZWaFYzajNEaU0usp=sharing ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [Talk-it] Confini aggiornati
Son sicuro che Valle d'Aosta, Sardegna e provincia di Genova sono ISTAT 2011 (l'ho fatto io), Dapal credo avesse fatto la Sicilia. Forse c'era anche una pagina dove se ne teneva traccia, non ricordo. In Friuli Venezia Giulia abbiamo importato a suo tempo i dati messi a disposizione dalla regione che li calcola a partire da dati del catasto (confrontandoli con altre basi dati), poi sul confine sloveno e austriaco abbiamo sistemato le cose assieme ai nostri vicini (c'è qualcuno che è andato a vedere dove sono i cippi di confine ...). Sono abbastanza confidente che siano dati migliori degli ISTAT 2011 ;-) Altra indicazione: in molte regioni il confine l'abbiamo fatto coincidere con la linea di costa, suggerisco dove non è così di procedere ad unire il confine alla linea di costa. Potresti formulare meglio ? sempre in FVG i confini (sia comunali che regionali) includono anche la laguna, penso sia lo stesso per la laguna di Venezia. Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Altro caso di mancata attribuzione
Martin, non conoscevo questo 'privilegio' per i piccoli paesi, comunque nel centro principale del comune (quello raffigurato dalla mappa) saremo intorno ai 5-6000 abitanti, un po' troppi per rientrare in quel caso. Ciao Marcello Il 21/04/2015 12:17, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: 2015-04-21 12:12 GMT+02:00 Marcello arca...@gmail.com mailto:arca...@gmail.com: Purtroppo per le mappe cartacee o altri tipi di stampa è più difficile inserire a posteriori l'attribuzione, rispetto alle forme di utilizzo sul web. sarebbe interessante sapere quante persone vivono in quella zona. Wikipedia dice 11 mila per tutto il comune. Se sono meno di 1000 non dovrebbero nemmeno attribuire ;-) http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline Ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging POI's - Nodes vs. areas
Hey While this email would rather suit tagging@ or help.openstreetmap.org I gonna try to answer: First of all, please, do not mix building-use and building=*. The later is for the construction type which might overlap with the actual use. amenity=hospital is the tag for a hospital and needed to get it rendered but this can include several buildings and even the surrounding area. Well, for a single building both might be needed: amenity=hospital building=hospital/yes name=* cu colliar Am 21.04.2015 um 15:58 schrieb EthnicFood IsGreat: I want to know how to tag buildings which are also amenities or shops. I have consulted the wiki and I cannot find a clear explanation of this. Say you have a building which is a hospital. One way to tag the polygon would be building = hospital. Another way would be amenity = hospital. Another way would be to simply tag the building as building = yes and then place a node inside the building polygon and tag the node as amenity = hospital. I'm thinking in terms of how the hospital will show up in the various renderers. Do most renderers require the amenity tag in order to display a hospital symbol at that location? (In other words, what happens if I just use the building = hospital tag on the polygon and no amenity tag?) And what about the hospital name? Do I include it with the building polygon or the node? Or both? This is very confusing. It seems there is a certain amount of overlap when it comes to the application of building, amenity, and shop tags. 0xE8F56581.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-it] Confini aggiornati
2015-04-21 15:21 GMT+02:00 Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com: Ma e' giusto che ci siano ancora delle zone extraterritoriali in Italia? http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/40.97168/13.98165 Ma un bell'aggiornamento massivo dei confini ai valori 2011 dell'Istat e delle linee di costa si puo' fare? Quanto hai ragione!!! In provincia di Lecce ho sistemato molti (ancora non tutti) confini costieri portando le relazioni sulla coastline. Inoltre ho aggiornato i confini comunali di Lecce e limitrofi, in base a quanto pubblicato dal comune sul portale opendata (hanno fatto trasferimenti di territorio con comuni limitrofi in anni recenti) e posso confermare che dire che i confini ISTAT attuali siano semplificati è un eufemismo. Spesso li definirei fantasiosi! In Puglia i confini forniti con la CTR sono perfetti, quindi mi proporrei volentieri per correggerli tutti in funzione della stessa. Suppongo però che anche per l'import dei confini si debba dare conto della licenza e ci scontriamo con l'annosa questione della licenza della CTR Puglia, che tutti conosciamo. Ciao Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-ro] Import toate bancile din Romania ?
În data de 21 aprilie 2015, 15:23, Badita Florin baditaflo...@gmail.com a scris: Recent am inceput o colaborare cu cei de la Rise Romania, iar printre altele ii ajut sa converteasca fisierele de la ministerul finantelor. Unul dintre seturile de date pe care l-am convertit din Text in excel si din excel intr-o harta este harta cu toate bancile din Romania. Personal, consider ca ar fi util acest set de date, dar mai intai sa intrebam si comunitatea, sa vedem ce parere aveti. O sa incerc sa atasasez mai tarziu o bucata din document, sa vedeti cum arata Salut Florin, Eu salut toate inițiativele de felul ăsta în principiu. Totuși, cred că ar trebui să învățăm ceva din importul muzeelor, și anume să avem și o metodă de detecție a duplicatelor, ca să nu mai ajungem în situații în care avem mai multe muzee cu același nume la câțiva metri distanță. În lipsa detecției duplicatelor nu cred că un import al unor date care se schimbă foarte des (cel puțin odată pe săptămână aud de închideri de filiale bancare) ar aduce un beneficiu hărții. Strainu ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Balises sonores pour aveugles
Pour l'instant j'ai créé un draft de proposition de tag ici : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/audio_beacon Je vais prendre des photos et faire un test live dans une gare avant de me jeter dans la mélée et d'en parler dans la mailing-list tagging. Le 21 avril 2015 10:08, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr a écrit : Hello, Cela me semble également nécessaire pour le routing et ne contrevient pas au but de décrire le réel. donc banco. D'autres remarques ? Le start=* vous parait réglementaire ? ;) Le 20 avril 2015 18:35, ZIMMERMANN Jean-Louis jeanlouis_zimmerm...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Le principe semble bon. Par contre je pense qu'il est bon de garder le positionnement du point balise sur la trace de guidage tactile : les 2 en général sont complémentaire. Qu'en penses-tu ? Jean-Louis -- *De :* Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr *À :* Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org *Cc :* Jean-Louis Zimmermann jeanlouis_zimmerm...@yahoo.fr *Envoyé le :* Lundi 20 avril 2015 17h32 *Objet :* [OSM-talk-fr] Balises sonores pour aveugles Salut, Je souhaite taguer des balises sonores qui guident des aveugles dans des bâtiments publics, comme décrit sur cette page : http://www.activeaudio.fr/accessibilite-deficients-visuels/balise-sonore-de-guidage Je ne vois rien sur le wiki ni ici http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_for_the_blind ni là http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Disabilities On est bien d'accord que information=audioguide ne convient pas pour ce système très spécialisé. Et vu qu'on a information=tactile_map et information=tactile_model je me dis qu'une balise sonore pourrait être *information=audio_beacon* Autres attributs : déclenchement automatique : start=automatic déclenchement manuel : start=manual diffuse des messages de localisation : audio_beacon=location diffuse des messages d'orientation : audio_beacon=guidance C'est du bon ? -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-co] OT: Ayuda con impresión de mapas base de OSM en QGis
Hola Maperos y maperas: He usado QGis desde hace un tiempo y desde la última actualización ho he podido exportar desde el gestor impresiones mapas que incluyan los mapas base de OSM o imágenes como Bing. Solo imprime los shapes. En algunos mapas con un área grande no me ha servido descargar los datos .osm pues es demasiada información y el efecto gráficco de un render por ejemplo con mapa ciclista no se alcanzan a presentar allí. Cómo hacen ustedes para exportar imágenes y pdf? Luego de consultar manuales y la comunidad no encuentro una respuesta satisfactoria. Por otro lado, he iniciado el uso de la plataforma de gestión humanitaria Sahana Eden. Quisiera hacer uso de algun geoserver disponible para aprender muchas cosas que se han hecho aquí para sacarle el jugo a la plataforma para la documentación de proyectos. También si hay más gente interesada en Sahana para armar un grupo de estudio en neófitos en este campo. Puntualmente estoy usando de forma temporal una muestra gratuita del servicio wms de Onterra para usar las imágenes de BIng. Qué fuente directa usan de Bing para no usar este serrrvicioprivativo? Gracias -- Luis Miguel Sánchez Zoque @kublaykan http://www.twitter.com/kublaykan http://redhumus.org Copyleft. Hack the planet an have a fun day!!! OSM USER: OMNBUS http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Colombia https://primerrespondiente.wordpress.com https://www.gnu.org/copyleft/ ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging POI's - Nodes vs. areas
On 21 April 2015 at 16:21, Jan van Bekkum jan.vanbek...@gmail.com wrote: If you use a relation shouldn't it be a site relation instead of a multipolygon? On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:24 PM Bryan Housel br...@7thposition.com wrote: `amenity=hospital` is what makes it a proper hospital. You can create a node where the hospital is, or an area around the property of the hospital. Drawing either a node or an area is ok, but drawing areas is preferred if you have time for it. If the hospital is just one building, you can add `building=yes` or `building=hospital` to the amenity. If the hospital is a campus of several buildings, you can draw each building as well. `building=*` (anything) should make it render like a building/structure. The actual value of the building tag is not really used often (it’s considered a description of what the building looks like, not what it is), so most buildings are just tagged as `building=yes` unless they are really special somehow. Thanks, Bryan No area should be plotted as a point. That's just one of OSM's nightmarish disasters. -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Communiqué de presse carto-party
Le Mar 21 avril 2015 17:50, Marc Ducobu a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Finalement, y a t il un communiqué de presse pour la carto party de samedi ? Si oui ça m'intéresse de l'avoir. pas eu le temps de l'écrire. Si tu te lance dans un pad, je compléterai. Ce serait une bonne idée. Il y aura sans doute des articles dans Le Soir (Alain Jenotte) et La Libre (je ne sais pas qui) mais avec un communiqué de presse, nous pourrons un peu mieux guider les journalistes. Du matériel dans les liens ci-dessous : Le lendemain, à ESI (67 rue royale) filmer la cartopartie durant laquelle nous allons améliorer la carte libre openstreetmap pour les handicapés (voir http://wheelmap.org) et pour les cyclistes (voir http://opencyclemap.org). Adresse : rue royale 67 à 1000 Bruxelles entre 9h et 10h puis entre 11h30 et 13h. [1] http://opencyclemap.org/, une cartographie pour cyclistes ; [2] http://wheelmap.org/, une cartographie pour personnes à mobilité réduite Voir http://www.lasemainenumerique.be/Invitation-a-une-Cartopartie.html ou https://framadate.org/vspmbw9xba5pfasn pour l'inscription ou http://www.heb.be/esi/supports/cartopartie.htm ou https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Activities#Invitation_.C3.A0_une_Cartopartie_.5B1.5D_.C3.A0_Bruxelles_-_Samedi_25_Avril_2015.2C_9h_.C3.A0_13h Le créateur de Mapillary http://www.mapillary.com/how.html une application pour faire collectivement l'équivalent de street view sera présent. Comme dit, l'activité 2/ se passe en 3 temps : a) 1h pour savoir comment faire, recevoir des documents papiers à compléter ou installer une application sur son smartphone, b) 1h pour aller sur le terrain mesurer, photographier, noter ... et prendre des notes c) 1h pour ensemble, sur des ordinateurs, encoder les données dans openstreetmap. L'objectif est donc que les gens deviennent indépendants. Le public peut apporter si possible son ordinateur portable pour que tout le monde puisse dans la phase c) travailler et pratiquer. Merci ) toi, Nicolas (qui prépare une conférence sur creative commons pour ce soir) Belle journée. Marc ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Nicolas Pettiaux - nico...@pettiaux.be Soutenons april.org , framasoft.org et laquadrature.net ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Communiqué de presse carto-party
Bonjour à tous, Finalement, y a t il un communiqué de presse pour la carto party de samedi ? Si oui ça m'intéresse de l'avoir. Belle journée. Marc ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] Routing over areas
On 21 April 2015 at 15:52, Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is wrote: I wonder if similar adjustments could be made for streets with a low speed limit, especially where there are no pedestrian crossings nearby (be it imperfect data or there aren't any). Seems crazy to suggest that pedestrians and cyclers get a routing suggestion to go around to the end of the road and back to the other side instead of crossing the road *in the cases where a sane person would do exactly that*. Of course, it might need some extra tags to prevent suggestions like that where such behaviour is prohibited. - Svavar Kjarrval On 20/04/15 21:25, Rob Nickerson wrote: Interesting article for any routing experts: http://anitagraser.com/2015/04/17/routing-in-polygon-layers-yes-we-can/ Rob If there's a direct route across the square, it should be on the route map as a route - then it'd be correctly included in routing software solutions. Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk-fr] nouveau commissariat gare du nord
Quelqu'un passerait-il dans le coin pour le mapper ? https://twitter.com/RERD_SNCF/status/590535410440392704 merc -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] iD Security
On Tue Apr 21 16:10:09 2015 GMT+0100, pmailkeey . wrote: On 21 April 2015 at 15:58, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Seeing the ticket, I think that the behavior here is what I'd expect it to be, and what I think many people would expect as well. It doesn't seem like this is related to iD ignoring cookies, but about how you were logged into an account and authorized iD to edit on behalf of one of them. I'm not sure that iD could really be doing anything radically different. This is no different than other sites which use cross site authentication systems, ie Google, Facebook, etc. As for it being a security issue- if you logged out of osm.org before authenticating yourself from iD, then yes, I see a potential serious problem, but that's not what I see reported here. - Serge So if I'm logged in to osm as FRED you think it's ok for iD to allow me to use DERF's account - as that is what happened. You really should not be logging into anything on a computer that has shared accounts. DERF and FRED should be using different windows / linux accounts. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-it] Altro caso di mancata attribuzione
Am 21.04.2015 um 16:02 schrieb Marcello arca...@gmail.com: non conoscevo questo 'privilegio' per i piccoli paesi non è un privilegio, è una concretizzazione cosa è significativo ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Démo Carnet de rando sur la crête des Vosges
Le 21/04/2015 21:25, Yves Pratter a écrit : Bien cette idée de carnet, j’espère qu’elle va faire des petits dans d’autres régions :) Si tu as des envies, il suffit de faire ou de demander ! Seul bémol, la multitude de carrés rouges vers le *Vieil Armand* (carte 2). Si je lis bien la légende, il s’agit de Lieux ou éléments touristiques ou remarquables. Un peu déroutant. Tagguer pour le rendu… ben des fois, ça fait pas ce qu'on voulait. Je ne sais pas trop ce qui représenté là-bas, mais en tout cas, c'est bourré de tourism=attraction + name=*. Mais je sais pas trop ce que c'est, si c'est des statues/sculptures ou autres, mais je pense que le tag utilisé est pas forcément le meilleur (sur R25, les artwork sont rendus de manière moins violente). PS : en fait, la crête des Vosges avec OSM, ça existe déjà, j'ai découvert ça cet après-midi. Un premier tant attendu guide de cette crête est sorti, mais comme celui de la FFRP/CV tardait trop, il s'est fait doubler par un éditeur allemand qui a traduit son topo en français (d'après ce que j'ai compris). Le bouquin : https://www.rother.de/rother-titres%20francais-vosges%20-%20grande%20travers%E9e-4949.htm , un exemple de carte visible ici : https://www.rother.de/pdf/3763349499_tour.pdf , j'avais pas d'appareil photo sous la main, mais sur la dernière page, il est précisé que les 36 (?) cartes détaillées sont à partir de données CC-BY-SA OpenStreetMap (c'est pas impossible que la version allemande date d'avant le changement de licence), cartographie je me souviens plus quelle entreprise allemande… ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-it] MuseoTorino OpenData
Ciao a tutti, volevo segnalare per chi interessato il sito Museo Torino consultabile al seguente link http://www.museotorino.it/site Al netto delle diverse schede informative sottolineo: 1) una mappa con tutti i punti. La mappa utilizza OSM come sfondo: al momento manca l'attribuzione ma li ho già contattati. Hanno aggiunto ieri il riferimento ad OSM qui http://www.museotorino.it/site/contacts dicendomi che sistemeranno correttamente sulla mappa al primo rilascio utile 2) la sezione open data API (http://www.museotorino.it/api) con licenza IODL 2.0 http://www.dati.gov.it/iodl/2.0/ ed una serie di esempi di chiamate in GET Mi sembra un buon esempio Buona serata Cesare Gerbino http://cesaregerbino.wordpress.com/ http://www.facebook.com/cesare.gerbino http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cesare-Gerbino-GIS-Blog/246234455498174?ref=hl https://twitter.com/CesareGerbino http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cesare-gerbino/56/494/77b Questo è un account di posta personale di Cesare Gerbino: tutte le opinioni espresse sono personali e non riflettono necessariamente quelle del mio datore di lavoro This is Cesare Gerbino mail account. Text is written by Cesare Gerbino: the views expressed are mine and not necessarily those of my employer. . ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-de] Fußgänger-Diskriminierung?
Das ist doch Quatsch! Der Bürgersteig/Radweg gehört zu der jeweiligen Straße! 2015-04-16 16:53 GMT+02:00 Holger Jeromin mailgm...@katur.de: Volker Schmidt wrote on 16.04.2015 16:36: Ich sehe die Frage vom Fahrradrouting her: Wenn ich im Auto mein navi benutze sagt mir das z.B.: 1km geradeaus auf der Schillerstrasse; oder: biege nach 100m rechts in the Goethestrasse ein. Wenn ich auf dem Rad auf den strassenbegleitenden, namenlosen Radwegen unterwegs bin bin, schreibt mein Fahrradnavi: geradeaus auf Radweg und rechts ab auf Radweg Wie wäre es, wenn es sagen würde: Geradeaus auf dem Radweg parallel zur Schillerstraße Will ich wirklich Geradeaus auf der Schillerstraße, wenn es den Radweg daneben meint? -- Grüße Holger ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [talk-au] National Park unclosed poly, want advice
Thanks Paul, I'll see if that's an option, especially as it's not a named forest. Now I've also got this situation where the much larger but very low fidelity forest poly is conflicting with my new high-fidelity poly for the actual Murramarang National Park https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/-35.6942/150.2560 I don't know whether to clean up the edge of the larger forest poly to use the same coastline nodes as my national park poly because there's also the issue that the national park probably can't be considered a subset of the forest poly as there are non-forest regions within the national park! Nathanael Coyne (Boehm) www.purecaffeine.com Canberra, Australia 0431 698 580 On 22 April 2015 at 05:41, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On 4/18/2015 11:35 PM, Nathanael Coyne wrote: I'd appreciate if someone could have a look at it and tell me if it is valid or invalid and if invalid then where I should start with fixing it up, given it covers such a large area. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/204064026#map=10/-35.8657/150.1611 The way itself isn't a polygon, but is part of the multipolygon http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1388357 It is valid, but an area this large is a problem to deal with for a number of reasons - You're more likely to conflict with people editing it - Checking validity is hard, as you need the entire polygon - It poses problems for rendering toolchains Coming from an area with many areas of trees, I have a few techniques. One is to end up splitting on an arbitrary line. While this fixes the problems, it's not ideal. A better route is to find an appropriate break in the trees. Typically along roads, rivers, power lines, and oil and gas lines there is a break in the trees. I try to find one and trace this break. This also tends to find clearings ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-35.8707/149.9854), unmapped roads branching off, and other features of interest. Don't feel you need to be perfect, particularly in a case like this where the original tracing is from landsat. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
