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ered ) and 'property' would be the expanded
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something like 'B4A' for 'Block B, Floor 4, Office A' or something
similar. Units on a storage site may well
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2018-01-23 10:06 GMT+01:00 Lester Caine <mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk>>:
Actually it's more likely to be the estate name so for my near by
estate it is messy since I've ended up using 'housenumber' so that
it
s from the distinction? Do any countries
not have motorways at all? Certainly the current default rendering is
useless for many of us anyway so we have to ue an alternate anyway ...
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data should perhaps be flagged when the ID is used?
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continual churn of 'views of what is important' on a single static
map and I know the technology is there, just not the resources to
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rcing lowercase only tags? The fact that
'FIXME' and 'fixme' can exist on the same node just seems wrong in ANY case?
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one thing, but 'FIXME' is clean and
changing them just because you can adds nothing to the data. Get on an
deal with them to remove them all together is the right tack ...
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no current method of converting all of these area elements into 'ways',
so one needs additional highway=xxx ways to provide the routing
information that provides the macro level view. So you do not want an
'area:highway=footpath' if there is a hi
' tags to the areas. IN
THAT CASE area=yes could be used to identify that there are associated
area objects that can be used on higher resolution mapping. I don't
think 'area:highway=' has place especially where the 'centerline' way is
used to combine several highway=xx
USPS
had a similar postal address listing?
I find the practice of adding ANY tag that does not enhance the data as
pointless. There is no need to TAG that there is no number ... you just
don't add the tag ... just as the example here ...
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80n wrote:
> The coastline looks ok from here:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.987&lon=-15.521&zoom=10&layers=0B0FTF
> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.987&lon=-15.521&zoom=10&layers=0B0FTF>
Toggle to mapnik ....
But keep yo
is a good cooperative network on line - something that I
think is evolving nicely with OSM :)
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ock editing of areas except by approved editors.
I think need to 'legislate' in software has been avoided to far, but if other
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Interestingly google seems to have a problem with the golf links as well? They
just create a lot extra white space where the shore line should be.
But it's nice to see that OSM actually has the railways on :)
It would be nice to have some way to show the house trams on the front in
Dougla
one so that those of us who are linguistically challenged can at least
understand the comparison. Although I WOULD like to see the title in the
language of the country since that makes perfect sense? )
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linked to the different one's of the original messages.
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Pascal Neis wrote:
> hi,
> all services of openrouteservice.org
> now also available for UK and Ireland.
>
> have fun!
>
> cheers
> pascal
>
> http://openrouteservice.org/
What am I not doing?
It keeps telling me that England is outside the area it cover
ables and direct you to the operator's booking
page ;)
Could probably even make money from it :)
Train times would also fit well into that approach, as well as other
'timetabled' events?
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> On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:47:00 +0100, Lester Caine <> wrote:
>> Interesting choice of routes when going north up the M6 but I'm sure at
>> times
>> that taking the back roads would be quicker ;)
>>
> Do you have an example (using t
that they want to send things both way :)
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Karl Newman wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> Joseph Scanlan wrote:
> > On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, paul youlten wrote:
> >
> >> Woul
he gaps in current proofs - even if it needs a link to another
dimension.
What does this have to do with OSM?
Wouldn't it be nice to be ahead of the game and have the first map of the
universe - complete with wormholes :)
But I think we may need something a little
new
problem? If something does not have a name why would you ADD a name=xx tag. No
name tag = no name. I doubt that every trackway has a name so why ADD
thousands of noname=yes when simply not providing a name tag does the same
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Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Lester Caine wrote:
>> Am I missing something here, or is the editing interface now CREATING
>> a new problem? If something does not have a name why would you ADD a
>> name=xx tag. No name tag = no name. I doubt that every trackway has a
>> n
Elena of Valhalla wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [...]
>> There was a suggestion for name=__NONAME__ but that is also wrong - what is
>> needed is a SIMPLE name=__TODO__ where there is an item that we know HAS a
>
- other bits highlighted because
they have no name ...
The bottom line is WHAT set of highway= tags should be flagged automatically
as no-name and therefore require an additional tag to flag them as really
having no name.
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orway and motorway_link ARE always
one way and anything that needed to be two way would not be flagged as
'motorway' but no doubt parallels in other countries are not quite so clear cut?
Perhaps the OSM definition of motorway should include the restriction of a
single direction c
tent / very rare.
>
> Quite the opposite: most motorway_links around here a bidirectional, except
> the small parts where they enter and exit the motorway.
Then only the small parts that are the actual link should be tagged as
motorway_links ;)
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cases of idiots driving up the wrong 'L' link ;)
Seriously - if the motorway rules apply to the L2 section as well then it has
to be flagged as a motorway_link :(
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this that I
frequent have now been divided with a barrier. And a word of warning the
'Maximum speed' for a single carriageway road in the UK is 60 MPH. This
applies to these links up to the 'start of motorway' sign which may not be
actually at the end of the link - I&#
, if correct speed indication is to be provided for route
planning, then the position of the actual start point is as important as
placing a change of speed limit at the correct point?
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other indications have caused drivers problems in
the past which is one reason - as I indicated earlier - most of the approaches
around here now have central divides in place, so form two carriageways even
if it is one road surface?
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bit will probably be an extra segment - tagged motorway_link!
Of cause directions of these segments is as important as the oneway data, but
only a routing program may spot an error?
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be served breakfast in
the hotels restaurant but non-residents would only normally use that for
breakfast if joining another resident of the hotel ( or they have money
burning holes in their pockets ;) ). This is another 'rule' that has been
eroded over time, but is probably one that
ntu. Are the other instructions the same for debian/ubuntu?
> Do I need to change something for debian/ubuntu howto?
Probably worth adding that to the osm wiki as well.
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with an added access=private for roads within security areas.
unclassified is certainly out of place where the purpose of the road is known,
but perhaps THAT is what needs to be defined as a tagging guideline?
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Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:
> Lester Caine wrote:
>> Sent: 07 November 2008 11:47 AM
>> To: OSM Talk
>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] UK Industrial Estate Roads
>>
>> David Earl wrote:
>>> On 07/11/2008 11:31, Christoph Boehme wrote:
>>>
Cartinus wrote:
> On Friday 07 November 2008 12:47:07 Lester Caine wrote:
>> unclassified is certainly out of place where the purpose of the road is
>> known,
>
> ???
>
> Can you explain what you mean by this?
The purpose of the service road is to service an indust
Andy Allan wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> The purpose of the service road is to service an industrial area - therefore
>> it is not simply unclassified. Unclassified is only appropriate - in my
>> opinion - w
ould make sense, I suppose.
That is probably overkill. I think there probably needs to be a number of
properties to switch to 'residential'
> In the case of industrial estates I tend to use unclassified if it
> is a through route (or even tertiary if it is a major uncla
ve
> works" displayed using the Gmaps api?!
And I think at one stage - anything submitted via chrome? Not sure THAT
condition on the chrome licence has been removed but it certainly stops
me from even downloading it ;)
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north with us, up to date maps showing the show conditions are probably
of interest to a lot of people. I'm certainly not one of them, but why
should snow maps be any different to cycling or 'in-line skating' ;)
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correct, but they are on 0.12 now.
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re is nothing proposed that *I* would consider
provides useful information. Perhaps it is time for secondary data
projects - like the cycle map - to have thier own set of extra tags that
are only used for those mapping excercises?
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Mike Harris wrote:
> Thanks - now I get the difference - my mistake. What we sometimes call an
> "Aladdin's Cave" - but I guess 'household' is a more generally understood
> tag (:>) ...
Aunt Wainwrights .. perhaps ;)
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segments will be skipped - but it still has to be part of the route
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plementation of additional data such as 'road condition' and
other areas where on the whole the local interpretation of something
like that may be totally inappropriate in another country?
While not wanting to propose a dictatorship, I do wonder if it isn't
about time that we had a '
'blogs' ?
History has it's place and MUST not be lost, but progress encompassing
the international nature of OSM and creating an international 'feel' to
replace the 'UK project' comments such as we saw recently in the
Canadian press is a must?
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grab a 2 year old copy of the planet file,
but the last one in the archive is 14-Sep-2012 and then they are weekly
from then. Extracting your arget area and then rendering a map from it
just follows the same process as working with the current data.
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>>> The endless rain of 2014 might though ;-)
>> > :-)
>> >
>> > Hit refresh, it seems to be fixed now.
> Nope. Still raining outside.
Dry inside and out here ... all looking fine.
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> the lengthy message in case you are not interested.
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does not know
that will be stripping data simply because it does not follow the
programmers arbitrarily defined rules. This is DEFINITELY not something
that should be rolled out blindly across all countries as certainly ome
ARE now adding very fine detail over the top of the originall
s
line up exactly with one another. I'd rather not see some of the list on
maproulette applied to the UK and I'm sure other European countries
would feel the same? We have some very fine detail now being mapped and
any smoothing algorithm wuold have to b
On 23/08/14 09:47, Lester Caine wrote:
> On 23/08/14 09:16, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
>> I object to someone telling me that a road needs 'smoothing' ... it may
>> well have very well mapped source data, and someone who does not know
>> that will be stripp
On 23/08/14 16:29, Clifford Snow wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Lester Caine <mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>
> http://openstreetmap.us/iD/release/#background=Bing&map=17.00/-83.15249/36.43657
> is the one I'm currently on and leav
this is perhaps my own concern. Rules that work well for some
data may be totally inappropriate for other, so 'challenges' should be
restricted to the areas where those rules are known to work well, rather
than simply blindly applying them world wide?
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> On 8/24/2014 2:48 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
>> It's not the 'brightness - it's the compressed contrast which is has
>> always been the problem with iD. maproulette does not link to potlatch2
>> which I'd normally u
hat third party services simply referenced OSM
rather than downloading yet another layer of data into the core database.
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but adding tags for every other database in OSM is not the solution to
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filtering relevant to the
intended use.
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concentrate on that as a cross reference to
obtain timezone data for OSM.
If wikidata is so open, then every tag added here should have the
reciprocal tag added there, then I'll believe it's worth using :)
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corrections which private messaging can never initiate.
I would probably go on to propose that grouping a large number of
similar but data wise unrelated changes be flagged as bad practice so
that elements of a change CAN be discussed better via this mechanism.
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could be hammered out then committed once agreed ... rather than pulling
it apart in later discussions on that changeset?
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l the buildings, but I think I HAVE established that a zoom
level should use the icon OMLY when the name is not displayed, and if
there is no icon don't just display a dot :(
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> On 27 Nov 2014 09:18, "Lester Caine" <mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk>> wrote:
>> Not sure your demo is proving anything. Zooming in on the area covered
>> by the demo on the live map I'm not seeing very mu
selectable style sheet, or perhaps simply a base layer
on top of which different languages and styles can be selected.
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e text onto the adjacent buildings are
another areas that needs properly fixing! What works well for one
country and style of mapping simply fails in many others.
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contrast landuse rendering ...
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g but the sample page I posted I have no
problem with the old contrast - only the new one is causing difficulty -
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to use to get to the right road.
Not sure there is an easy way to enhance the display to show the 'angle'
of the road but had a good time helped by well detailed mapping data.
Thanks to those who contributed it.
( Am looking to OSMAND as a means of creating other map displays )
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oduced a
database of import attributions so that the 'source' tag just becomes an
Ixxx.yyy and all of the generic tagging can be accessed via that. We can
then more easily see what is 'managed import' over manual data. In the
case of the LINZ data for instance adding address infor
e'll see what happens
As I indicated ... it is more a matter of what is wrong with the new
data. I WOULD expect new building data to include the address and
perhaps the fact that this is missing is good enough reason not to allow
the import. Particularly if the buildings removed did have addre
he single way. At high resolution we see the buildings, footpaths
and grass areas ...
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red by mud? The extra direction can ACTUALLY be helpful if it's a
route one has not been before. It only becomes irritating when one is
hearing it for the n'th time ;)
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rmation? As I said, the
inclusion of road names in OSMAND while useful at times does get
similarly annoying when a 'continue on Axxx' would suffice. In this case
the road id provides the "through_route" information ... one remains on
the same road ... and the straight on road
On 27/04/15 16:49, pmailkeey . wrote:
> On 27 April 2015 at 13:52, Lester Caine <mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> On 27/04/15 13:17, pmailkeey . wrote:
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> > Is the 'through route' and 'the same road' the same thing ? and d
nk it is appropriate
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s around this area,
one needs a way of identifying the two ways which is not then also
displayed. One of those places where 'object_id' could be useful, but to
be honest I think one simply lives with the 'strange' messages. I don't
think that things like trying to create a rela
s does of cause create the need for a better micro-mapped junction
layout since the highway=give_way tag needs to be a short distance down
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/285608726 and the routing software
needs to understand the whole area of the junction rather than just the
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;directions'. What is needed is proper lane
directions through the junctions, rather than a 'left' or 'right' which
are difficult even to decide when there is ALSO a road going across at
90degs :) 6 roads meet offset over two or three mini-roundabouts.
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p. What would make much more
sense to me would be if there was a standard enquiry method for a
website such as 'contact.domain' which removes the need for OSM to
manage any of that secondary data. Once one has 'website=domain' even
'phone=xxx&
on what IS a social platform. There are
places where hiding ones identity is necessary, but here is not one?
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and and the road splits is tagged
showing the 'safe' driving direction. Would you drive up the right hand
branch? That is ignoring the case of trying to escape from the police ;)
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> On 2015-05-11 at 08:41:48 +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
>> On 11/05/15 02:07, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
>>> I expect to see Xxzme back under a different username soon.
>> This is the real problem.
>> While it
ian atkinson atkin...@hotmail.com
Is over there now on a 4 week secondment, but we did not have time to
get him up to speed before he went ... He get told last week end and
flew out on the 12th. But being a mapper he may be a useful pair of eyes
on the ground ...
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he material, they could substitute their own
dictionary in place of the 'official' one, so we can have Klingon or
Jedi for those using the maps for gaming purposes. But I don't think we
can rely on a third party like Wikidata to provide this dictionary ...
they may however parallel it&#
bases are the logical way to provided
filtered live data? Should that layer be provided by a third party? I
think the answer there is probably no, but providing an interface where
third party versions of the data can be used makes sense.
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openstreetmap can do about that ... or would want to do about it on the
data!
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On 31/05/15 12:24, Andrew Hain wrote:
> Does Craigslist also get oneway=-1 (traffic opposite to the direction of the
> way) wrong?
And oneway:cycle=no and the like ...
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