Re: [OSM-talk] Vote cheating?

2018-03-16 Thread Maarten Deen
That is a different matter. This is about the possibility that on person makes multiple wiki accunts and use those to vote (thereby cheating the vote). I think it would be a good thing to check this. Maarten On 2018-03-16 12:18, James wrote: You could also argue the opposite way: Not everyon

Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-04 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-03-05 06:23, Rodrigo Rodríguez wrote: These are sort of the things I would appreciate I could be able to map in OSM. Even with the subjective point of view that might represent to tag a way as insecure or not, it is easily achievable to determine a way or schema in wich you could identify

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping rivers that flow into/through lakes?

2018-02-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-23 11:35, Rory McCann wrote: On 23/02/18 06:53, Maarten Deen wrote: I see nothing wrong with those examples, I would do it the same, especially if the rivers can be sailed on by boat. Then you absolutely need the rivers to be connected to a central river (or fairway) in the lake

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping rivers that flow into/through lakes?

2018-02-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-22 22:59, Rory McCann wrote: Hi mappers, What's the best way to map rivers that flow into lakes, especially when another river flows through it? Should they be connected? When a river flows through a lake, you can map a waterway=river way through it, to be "topoligcally complete". Or

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

2018-02-19 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-19 10:17, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 08:12:45PM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2018-02-18 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Maarten Deen > wrote: > > > On 2018-02-18 19:28, Tom Hughes wrote: > > I can't comme

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

2018-02-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-18 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2018-02-18 19:28, Tom Hughes wrote: I can't comment about how the algorithm works because I don't know anything about it. I'm just saying that we do tell it the viewbox I

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

2018-02-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-18 19:28, Tom Hughes wrote: On 18/02/18 18:04, Paul Johnson wrote:  OK, so what can we do about this problem?  For example, go to Jenks, Oklahoma.  Search for Walmart.  First result isn't the Walmart Neighborhood Market across the street from the Riverside Market shopping center. 

Re: [OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

2018-02-17 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-17 10:56, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: This article is on the front page of the Slashdot today: Fri 16 February 2018 "Why OpenStreetMap is in Serious Trouble" https://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2018/02/16/osm-is-in-trouble/ Interesting that he mentions that "the proprietary mapping world has

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts - why is a separate segment required?

2018-02-15 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-14 19:39, Dave F wrote: On 14/02/2018 18:23, Johan C wrote: No, they are not. Roundabouts are special types of intersections. Which is another type of intersection. They have a way on which you can drive round. And round. And round. And they have other ways leading to and from th

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts - why is a separate segment required?

2018-02-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-14 18:50, Dave F wrote: On 14/02/2018 17:13, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2018-02-14 17:39, Dave F wrote: I think I have read it correctly. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5408566797 It is easy to determine this shared node is part of the roundabout as well as the entrance from

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts - why is a separate segment required?

2018-02-14 Thread Maarten Deen
d (connected by a node) you do not enter that road so you do not need instructions for it. Maarten On 14/02/2018 16:17, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2018-02-14 15:53, Dave F wrote: Hi Could anyone give me an explanation for this line from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction=roundabout &

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts - why is a separate segment required?

2018-02-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-14 15:53, Dave F wrote: Hi Could anyone give me an explanation for this line from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction=roundabout "Each road has to be connected with the roundabout in a separate node—that is, between these nodes a segment of the roundabout is required." I

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-01-12 15:07, Michael Reichert wrote: Hi, OSMCha started posting comments to changesets a few days ago when a user marks a changeset as good or bad. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/wille/diary/43101 I would like to ask the author(s) of OSMCha to disable this feature. We expect to re

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam-bot friends

2017-12-25 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-12-25 13:15, Sérgio V. wrote: What a weird new zero edditting user added me as OSM friend. Specially considering this morning. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/StonefireArms Don't want firearms as Christmas gift. Not much to do with OSM. I hope. FYI: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w

Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome_to_OpenStreetMap_users ?

2017-10-24 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-10-25 07:31, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 25.10.2017 o 07:08, Roland Olbricht pisze: See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users#Original_research_always_wins Why is this page named "Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users"? Can we just move it to "Welcome_to_OpenStreetMap_users"

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-09-25 Thread Maarten Deen
Of course this is impractical in the UI in the current way of selecting layers (where each layer has its own check box to enable it), I was more thinking in the line of having a dropdown box for all language overlays. No idea if this is currently possible in openlayers. Maarten On 2017-09-25

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-09-24 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-09-24 23:01, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Hi all, I would like to ask for your opinion on the choice of language used in the Default map on openstreetmap.org. This map (based on the openstreetmap-carto style) currently displays all labels in their native language (as defined in the 'name' t

Re: [OSM-talk] Wheelchair accessibility

2017-09-20 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-09-20 23:10, john whelan wrote: I was at a presentation yesterday evening about accessibility, well it was free coffee what more can I say? All Ottawa buses have two spaces for wheelchairs. We map wheelchair accessible toilets and other things for the map but we currently as far as I am

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-28 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-08-28 13:02, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Monday 28 August 2017, Greg Morgan wrote: We do get to go through the five stages. We do get to express the emotions until acceptance of our fate as part of the healing process. There is no rubber stamping! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BC

Re: [OSM-talk] Is the overpass API for JOSM on the fritz?

2017-07-20 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-07-20 10:22, Roland Olbricht wrote: Hello there, I'm sorry for the inconvenience. The server that hosts overpass-api.de had a sudden loss of power with subsequent file corruption. I will push status updates on the status page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/status Spe

Re: [OSM-talk] Is the overpass API for JOSM on the fritz?

2017-07-19 Thread Maarten Deen
from Overpass, is corrupted. Did Overpass start to send corrupted data? Regards. - DE : Maarten Deen ENVOYÉ : jeudi 20 juillet 2017 08:19 À : j...@openstreetmap.org; talk@openstreetmap.org OBJET : [OSM-talk] Is the overpass API for JOSM on the fritz? I had no problems using

[OSM-talk] Is the overpass API for JOSM on the fritz?

2017-07-19 Thread Maarten Deen
I had no problems using the "download from overpass API" in JOSM up until yesterday. Today it gives me all kinds of errors with queries I know worked. Even when I build a simple query like railway=rail which gets translated to [out:xml][timeout:25][bbox:{{bbox}}]; ( node["railway"="rail"];

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering questions

2017-07-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-07-09 08:36, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2017-07-08 10:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 8. Jul 2017, at 08:39, Maarten Deen wrote: You used to be able to invalidate a tile, but that does not work anymore AFAIK it still works, although it is rather complicated now

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering questions

2017-07-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-07-08 10:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 8. Jul 2017, at 08:39, Maarten Deen wrote: You used to be able to invalidate a tile, but that does not work anymore AFAIK it still works, although it is rather complicated now to get the tile URL, and there's reluc

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering questions

2017-07-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-07-08 10:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 8. Jul 2017, at 08:39, Maarten Deen wrote: You used to be able to invalidate a tile, but that does not work anymore AFAIK it still works, although it is rather complicated now to get the tile URL, and there's reluc

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering questions

2017-07-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-07-06 12:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2017-07-06 11:43 GMT+02:00 Maarten Deen : I have two questions about some Mapnik renderings I encountered on the main OSM map. 1) Why is this road not rendered as a tunnel? http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/435805359 [1] it is rendered as a

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering questions

2017-07-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-07-06 12:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2017-07-06 11:43 GMT+02:00 Maarten Deen : I have two questions about some Mapnik renderings I encountered on the main OSM map. 1) Why is this road not rendered as a tunnel? http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/435805359 [1] it is rendered as a

[OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering questions

2017-07-06 Thread Maarten Deen
I have two questions about some Mapnik renderings I encountered on the main OSM map. 1) Why is this road not rendered as a tunnel? http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/435805359 This is not a general error in the sylesheet, see this road which is rendered as a tunnel. http://www.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering issues with Carto 4.0

2017-06-21 Thread Maarten Deen
I don't know if this was an issue with previous renderings too, but what I also see are multipolygons that do not have a way that is inside it as member. The inside way still renders but the style of the outer will also render over the inside way. Example here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relat

[OSM-talk] Maproulette challenge "Reversed One Ways"

2017-06-04 Thread Maarten Deen
Who has created the maproulette challenge "Reversed One Ways" [1]? It seems to me that the selection that has been done is incorrect. The description in the challenge is "This node is either unreachable or unleavable. Edit the surrounding roads so that the node can be accessed properly" and all

Re: [OSM-talk] HDYC, login requirement and "privacy"

2017-05-05 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-05-05 10:35, Simon Poole wrote: Am 05.05.2017 um 09:47 schrieb Maarten Deen: .. We have all agreed to the contributor terms (although I can not find the version I have agreed to, I can only find a version from 2016) and that says that OSMF has the right to sub-license. PS https

Re: [OSM-talk] HDYC, login requirement and "privacy"

2017-05-05 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-05-05 09:17, Simon Poole wrote: Am 05.05.2017 um 00:39 schrieb Michał Brzozowski: ... Also, I see no reasonable way that upcoming EU privacy rules would affect us. Would they consider OSM as a special case or what? Everything mappers do, as has been said, is consensual and explicit. ...

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming removal of landuse=farm in the standard style

2017-03-22 Thread Maarten Deen
And FYI: there is a maproulette challenge to change the landuse=farm areas http://maproulette.org/ui/metrics/2374 But it lists "only" 14.828 available tasks. Maarten On 2017-03-22 14:39, joost schouppe wrote: In Belgium, the convention is to use farmland for growing plants, and landuse=meadow

Re: [OSM-talk] Auto whitespace removal?

2017-03-11 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-03-11 16:50, James wrote: Honestly, I'm not sure why this wasnt built into JOSM or P2 or ID for that matter as strip functions are readily available if not, very easy to code Maybe you should open a bug report to request the feature. I think JOSM warns you about it but still would be nic

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam reporting

2017-02-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-02-23 11:23, Tom Hughes wrote: On 23/02/17 09:48, Jochen Topf wrote: Every larger system that allows user contributions has a "report this as spam" button. If a few people click on that, an admin reviews and handles this. Sounds like an obvious solution that could also work for OSM. No

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

2017-02-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-02-18 12:37, Tomas Straupis wrote: Another interesting example are polygons like this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/400182030 Polygon geometry is fine here, but it has one pointless node close to one of the nodes. Pointless because it does not influence the final geometry of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Maproulette problems?

2017-02-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-02-18 12:18, Jochen Topf wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 09:48:08AM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: Is the back-end of Maproulette offline? I can access the site, I can see the challenges and the metrics, but when I want to start a challenge I only get to see the OSM map in my neighborhood

[OSM-talk] Maproulette problems?

2017-02-18 Thread Maarten Deen
Is the back-end of Maproulette offline? I can access the site, I can see the challenges and the metrics, but when I want to start a challenge I only get to see the OSM map in my neighborhood and it doesn't assign a task. Also: there is no contact information? Is this the best way to get in co

Re: [OSM-talk] Limiting changesets to 10k changes.

2017-01-31 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-01-31 19:04, Guillaume Rischard wrote: Hello everyone, There's a pull request to limit changesets to 10k changes, and it would be good to get community input. I've opened a discussion here: https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/144 See the interesting comments on the PR it

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-01-30 12:07, Simon Poole wrote: I suspect the main problem is that in 2007 we didn't really have a lot of data so rendering tiles or it is really not such a big issue. However 2010 and later would require per point in time a rather largish rendering DB plus space for tiles a model that ne

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-28 Thread Maarten Deen
What would be really wonderful is a yearly layer so you can see the history changing. Just like http://topotijdreis.nl/ Maarten On 2017-01-28 16:08, joost schouppe wrote: Any chance we'll see some middle version there too in the future? (say, 2012. And than later, 1/1/20**) You gave us a fing

[OSM-talk] Lots of small copies of existing relations

2017-01-11 Thread Maarten Deen
I am working on bus routes and regularly download a whole area worth of bus routes with Overpass. What I see quite frequently is that some edit is done and in the aftermath a lot of copies of a busroute have been created with just a few (sometimes just one) member. These all seem to be in error,

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass API from JOSM does not honor bounding box anymore?

2016-12-26 Thread Maarten Deen
e my own), then downloading works. Regards, Maarten ----- DE : Maarten Deen À : talk@openstreetmap.org; j...@openstreetmap.org ENVOYÉ LE : lundi 26 décembre 2016 10h14 OBJET : [OSM-talk] Overpass API from JOSM does not honor bounding box anymore? I'm trying the overpass AP

[OSM-talk] Overpass API from JOSM does not honor bounding box anymore?

2016-12-26 Thread Maarten Deen
I'm trying the overpass API from JOSM and keep getting timeouts. According to the docs, the bounding box for the Overpass query would be set automatically when selecting an area in the map in the download screen, but I do not see that in the resulting query that gets logged. Trying the example

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-11-02 12:17, Lester Caine wrote: On 02/11/16 11:04, Milo van der Linden wrote: As a devops I understand your pain ;-) but for OSRM, I found that using docker and staying on a fixed docker version for OSRM makes the pain a lot easier. You say you are using GPS in the car, do you also

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Kosovo

2016-10-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-10-11 19:39, Andy Mabbett wrote: I'm speaking (about Wikipedia and Wikidata, not OSM - though it may get mentioned ;-) ) in Pristina, Kosovo, next week, at "Software Freedom Kosova 2016: SFK16": http://sfk.flossk.org/sfk16/ Are any OSM folk going? Do we know the local editors there?

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-31 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-08-31 09:39, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: On 31/08/16 07:54, Andreas Vilén wrote: Imo it's better to let these areas choose their own (classic) addresses and then report these to the authorities. /Andreas It looks like they are trying to do exactly this. Here is a map of a part of Rio de

Re: [OSM-talk] New Google Maps style - interesting cartographic innovation

2016-08-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-08-12 09:48, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: On 11.08.2016 20:37, Michał Brzozowski wrote: ... The activity areas aren't merely about the usage itself, but, well, the activity - i.e. concentration of interesting places and number of people visiting them (or other similar popularity metric).

Re: [OSM-talk] New Google Maps style - interesting cartographic innovation

2016-08-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-08-07 08:29, Michał Brzozowski wrote: On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: I don't know if I understand you right, but different colors for different purposes is hardly an innovation. You haven't got the point I guess. The new thing is that this process is c

Re: [OSM-talk] New Google Maps style - interesting cartographic innovation

2016-08-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-08-07 01:43, Michał Brzozowski wrote: There has been an update to Google Maps styling [1] and I have to say, they left me impressed. The overall look is cleaner, which is very welcome after a series of disappointing changes, but the thing I consider very innovative is how buildings (and o

[OSM-talk] Openstreetmap in Formula 1

2016-07-23 Thread Maarten Deen
I'm quite positive that I just saw a shot of a computer of one of the F1 teams showing the OSM with a rainradar overlay during qualifying of the GP of Hungary. Is that a public service from some organisation in Hungary or did they develop this themselves? Regards, Maarten

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2016-07-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-07-13 11:35, Colin Smale wrote: On 2016-07-13 10:23, Lester Caine wrote: W3W and OLC both have the same problem. They are trying to fix something which is not really broken. I disagree with this... They are not trying to replace / fix up lat/lon, they are providing a lingua franca for

Re: [OSM-talk] Video of node edit history

2016-06-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-06-23 11:05, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 23.06.2016 10:14, Rory McCann napisał(a): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdRO-QZaWX8 Someone's made a video of the node edit history of OSM. As nodes were edited, the pixel changes. It's from 2006 to 2016, and covers the whole world. Pretty

Re: [OSM-talk] Upload slowness - what's going on?

2016-05-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-05-13 14:59, Grant Slater wrote: Kudos for the very clear explanation. Over today (for at least the weekend) we are switching to the new frontend & backend servers in York (Bytemark). London Imperial will be offline from approximately 5pm (GMT+1) for the first weekend of power maintenan

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-27 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-03-26 20:59, Steve Coast wrote: Ok so look, Slack took over the world. And it turns out it’s pretty good and useful. Let’s have an official OSM slack. Maybe I'm living under a rock, but I only know Slack as a short for Slackware, a Linux distribution. What is this and why do I need t

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-03-22 14:10, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: # First goal: First goal is quite simple. The idea is to work only on relations which have a natural=water . Then, it will: * Delete natural=water from all the ways if they are NOT closed or ring 0. I have been fixing waterways and water area

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

2016-02-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-02-04 07:58, Paul Johnson wrote: I suspect you're onto something here; it's not a phrase that's even in my GIS vernacular. Don't even recall it from college experience (though I took French and majored in civil engineering; amazing I'm not mapping professionally)... True. I think "atti

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing Starbucks Wikipedia Tags (Was Nominatim Weakness)

2016-01-21 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-01-21 23:16, Paul Norman wrote: On 1/21/2016 1:44 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: When we are done cleaning up Starbucks, we'll still have at least one Starbucks with a wikipedia link, the original store But this won't be a link to the Starbucks article, but instead the specific one on that

Re: [OSM-talk] If a school is a shelter when a disaster happens...

2015-12-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-30 16:33, Dongpo Deng wrote: Hi all, There is a problem for tagging shelters. In Taiwan, some of schools are selected to be shelters for villages or small regions when a disaster happens. However, it is conflict to annotate two amenities on a geometry object. That is, we cannot simult

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to amalgamate two relations?

2015-12-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-23 14:05, Dave F. wrote: Hi There's an existing route relation that's out of date. A duplicate, but more accurate one has just been created. To maintain the history of the existing relation I don't want ot delete it. Is there an easy way to transfer the newer data into the original r

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-14 09:25, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 05:52:21PM -0500, John Goodman wrote: Am I missing something, or is there no way to sort Nominatim searches on the main OpenStreetMap map page? For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I happen to kno

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-14 09:34, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 08:45:38AM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2015-12-14 01:02, Tom Hughes wrote: >On 13/12/15 22:52, John Goodman wrote: > >>For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I >>happen to know

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-14 01:02, Tom Hughes wrote: On 13/12/15 22:52, John Goodman wrote: For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I happen to know a mapped Starbucks exists, and I search for "Starbucks" in the search panel, the entire panel is filled with Starbucks in Japan.

Re: [OSM-talk] Involving Cyclists in OSM

2015-12-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-09 09:58, Volker Schmidt wrote: A few suggestions. On-line maps for cyclists: * Opencyclemap (Opencyclmap.org) shows both infrastructure for bicycles as means of transportation (cycle paths etc.) and infrastructure for cycle tourism (cycle routes) * http://cycling.way

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-11-22 13:34, Colin Smale wrote: On 2015-11-22 13:18, Maarten Deen wrote: I also don't understand this:"It's a non-hierarchical system. The problem with latitude and longitude coordinates is that if you make a mistake when writing them down you will be completely los

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-11-22 12:07, Colin Smale wrote: I guess there would be no objections to someone adding addr:w3w:en=nice.place.here ? Or addr:w3w=en:nice.place.here ? Reading about what it is, it is just a lookup between some random three words and a location. We don't map addr:latlon=51.34,3.45 in OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] open question about boundaries sharing nodes with ways or nodes

2015-10-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-14 11:31, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 10/14/2015 10:56 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: (If this happens - if the boundary is defined by the river or the highway - then you still have various options of modeling this, for example having two ways share the same nodes, wou

Re: [OSM-talk] open question about boundaries sharing nodes with ways or nodes

2015-10-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-14 09:49, Badita Florin wrote: Nodes 1856092007 [1] and 1856092002 [2] , which limit the following way [3] between such nodes. This way is a highway and at the same time is part of the relation of a boundary. This seems invalid since it merges two types of features on the same way ins

Re: [OSM-talk] User WJtW - railway track counts

2015-10-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-12 12:05, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-10-12 11:09 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : about the sources of the other information (electrification info, usage etc), maybe it's inside info, maybe it's a guess, or maybe he is just widely-travelled. not sure about usage, but electrification ca

Re: [OSM-talk] User WJtW - railway track counts

2015-10-12 Thread Maarten Deen
I have received a private message from the user: Hoi Maarten, Met het aantal tracks wordt aangegeven het aantal sporen die parallel aan elkaar liggen. Tracks=1 = Enkelspoor Tracks=2 = Dubbelspoor Tracks=3 = Driesporig Tracks=4 = Viersporig Mvgr, Wim Translated: The number of tracks i

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-08 10:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-10-08 10:26 GMT+02:00 Maarten Deen : Making a relation for each concession greatly improves maintainability. You only have to load one relation in JOSM to get all lines and work from there. I would be really cross if someone decides to

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-08 09:44, Jo wrote: The way I do it (and in no way am I saying it is the only way or the correct way to do it, but it seems to hold up fine) is make one relation for each seperate destination (usually two: a->b and b->a, sometimes 4: a->c->b, a->d->b, b->c->a and b->d->a) and group tho

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-08 04:12, Clifford Snow wrote: I'm trying to add my first bus route. I'm struggling to understand how to properly add the relation. The route, like most bus routes, loops back over the same ways. So my questions: If the bus travels over the same way going two different directions, is

Re: [OSM-talk] User WJtW - railway track counts

2015-10-07 Thread Maarten Deen
I have asked WJtW about this in june this year but received no answer. Then I saw user BAGgeraar remove the tracks tag so I asked him about it and he too asked WJtW and received no answer. On the german forum there is a thread [1] about it also indicating it is a superfluous tag when all tracks

Re: [OSM-talk] Traffic Signs

2015-09-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-30 12:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 30.09.2015 um 11:46 schrieb Maarten Deen : That turn restriction does not exist in real life, so you shouldn't add it in OSM ;) I'm not convinced it doesn't exist (the sign says you can enter) But su

Re: [OSM-talk] Traffic Signs

2015-09-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-30 11:29, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-09-30 11:25 GMT+02:00 Maarten Deen : The city of Amsterdam is very good at this. One-way streets very often have no signs at the side where you are allowed to enter but have a sign "closed for motorized traffic with more than two wheel

Re: [OSM-talk] Traffic Signs

2015-09-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-30 11:14, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-09-30 10:18 GMT+02:00 Lauri Kytömaa : In my experience collecting the signs exhaustively has revealed smaller and bigger errors in osm data, and also in the signs (say, "leaking" zone signs, missing parking restrictions and different moped al

[OSM-talk] Fw: read this

2015-09-28 Thread Maarten Deen
Hello! New message, please read <http://neslojistik.com/places.php?tgh> Maarten Deen ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] The wki pages ... for the mapper? or the render? or both?

2015-09-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-09 05:18, Warin wrote: The some of the wiki pages appear to be written for the renders, while others look to be written for the mappers. This is confusing! I believe there should be two versions of the wiki pages - one for mappers who need simple descriptions of the tag/s and another f

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

2015-09-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-07 17:31, Russ Nelson wrote: https://www.facebook.com/groups/abandonedrails/permalink/1044885352211646/ It's on facebook and I have to log in to see it. I don't have a facebook account, so could someone post here whay it says? Regards, Maarten ___

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-09-01 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-01 13:14, Dave F. wrote: That the icon is used purely as a place holder & *removed* when a picture is added proves its irrelevance. Why would a newbie care or even need to know the XML structure of the database? Why is that relevant? The wiki has to be a clear & simple as possibl

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-08-27 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-27 11:21, Dave F. wrote: On 26/08/2015 21:54, Andrew Hain wrote: Dave F. madasafish.com> writes: Hi Bearing in mind the wiki is used more often by new OSM contributors & therefore should be a clear & concise as possible, I'm curious why this icon is so prevalent: http://wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-14 08:23, Russ Nelson wrote: Maarten Deen writes: > On 2015-08-14 07:44, Russ Nelson wrote: > > Maarten Deen writes: > > > I beg your pardon? I read this as "nothing can be deleted", since > > you > > > say that deleting somethi

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-14 07:44, Russ Nelson wrote: Maarten Deen writes: > I beg your pardon? I read this as "nothing can be deleted", since you > say that deleting something you don't see (which usually means it's not > there) is reason for a ban. No, nobody is goi

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-14 05:09, Russ Nelson wrote: Ian Dees writes: > I appreciate that there are strong feelings about this topic, but we could > certainly use more constructive language and have a civilized conversation. I would love to have a civilized conversation with civilized people who don't d

Re: [OSM-talk] History of specific areas

2015-08-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-13 11:46, Ruben Maes wrote: On Thursday 13 August 2015 08:22:59 Maarten Deen wrote: Is there a tool available to search for the history of items in a specific area? OSM History Viewer only works if you have the id of an object. I don't know if OWL can do it because it is offli

[OSM-talk] History of specific areas

2015-08-12 Thread Maarten Deen
Is there a tool available to search for the history of items in a specific area? OSM History Viewer only works if you have the id of an object. I don't know if OWL can do it because it is offline. I don't have the id for the node, I just know something was there and has been deleted at some poin

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-01 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-01 02:08, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi all, The '2007 vs today' OSM visualization I did for our 10th anniversary is back online. This is where I lived back then: http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#15/52.3816/4.8834 I will keep it around for a while, so go ahead and explore, and share y

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-31 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-07-31 09:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 31.07.2015 um 07:41 schrieb Maarten Deen : It is more than sufficient for a time calculation to use the maximum speed, multiplied by some factor (smaller than 1), or even a fixed speed per road class. Sometimes it also

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-30 Thread Maarten Deen
It is more than sufficient for a time calculation to use the maximum speed, multiplied by some factor (smaller than 1), or even a fixed speed per road class. My car navigation has this (there are three speeds I can set) and usually the time is correct within a few minutes. Much better is virtual

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-30 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-07-30 14:52, Greg Troxel wrote: If there were to be a penalty (distinct from a time/distance estimate), it should perhaps be for getting off a major road and getting back on. But, one could argue that this would be kludgy, and if one wanted that, the real issue would be that the underlyi

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway - "routable network" and reservoirs/lakes

2015-07-28 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-07-28 13:37, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Tuesday 28 July 2015, Colin Smale wrote: Hi Christoph, my suggestion was to clearly separate the subject of water flow from the subject of routing. Whether roads are mostly bidirectional or not is irrelevant I think, as routers have to be able to

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway - "routable network" and reservoirs/lakes

2015-07-27 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-07-27 23:39, Lester Caine wrote: On 27/07/15 20:55, Mike Thompson wrote: I assumed that when the wiki spoke about "routable" it was referring to the water flow rather than boat/ship/barge traffic. In any event, a routing engine for boats could use the presence of a dam or weir (combin

Re: [OSM-talk] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-27 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-07-27 17:58, James Mast wrote: I've been normally mapping slip lanes as '_link' highways at intersections since the beginning. However, as most fellow US mappers know, they almost never have 'speed limits' posted for them, and that seems to help cause problems in some routing programs wh

[OSM-talk] API down?

2015-07-04 Thread Maarten Deen
Hi, it seems the api is down? I can't get a connection from JOSM, ID, or a direct URL in my browser. Regards, Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Road Surface Type Map

2015-06-17 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-06-18 04:23, Hans De Kryger wrote: Does anyone know of a map that displays road surface type? If not maybe it been a good idea to request one from itomap. It would be a lot of help to mappers who map those tags. Itomap has one:

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing Applications

2015-06-17 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-06-17 15:08, Michał Brzozowski wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Imagine a single-carriageway road crossing a dual-carriageway road. All turns are allowed except u-turns from one side of the dual-carriageway to the other. This common situation can only b

Re: [OSM-talk] German is now officially the reference version of the wiki?

2015-06-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-06-12 11:28, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Just stumbled upon this edit of the out of sync template in the wiki, which introduces German as a reference language for documentation: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ATranslation_out_of_sync&diff=1127917&oldid=1127915 [

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess

2015-06-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-06-04 01:48, pmailkeey . wrote: On 3 June 2015 at 09:45, Lester Caine wrote: On 03/06/15 01:04, pmailkeey . wrote: OSM's k=v design is completely a serious and unnecessary flaw. Similarly are 'categories' like man_made', and 'amenity'. Why can we not simply stick to hard facts rathe

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess

2015-06-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-06-03 12:08, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 3 Jun 2015, at 07:00, Maarten Deen wrote: I agree that in every case where oneway=yes is not implied, oneway=no is superfluous (in a network design way), but that does not make oneway=no superfluous. There are some cases where oneway=no is

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