Re: [Diversity-talk] Fwd: [Tagging] Tagging Informed Consent for Trans*/️‍⚧️ healthcare in OSM?

2021-02-24 Thread Rory McCann
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 21:45, Adina Bogert-O'Brien wrote: > Mateus, this is something some clinics/doctors officially do though, so > it would be verifiable. It's not like saying, "we won't belittle you" > or "our food is yummy." It's a clear clinic policy around what criteria > you need to

Re: [Diversity-talk] Fwd: [Tagging] Tagging Informed Consent for Trans*/️‍⚧️ healthcare in OSM?

2021-02-24 Thread Rory McCann
I think using the same term that data users, and the concerned population use is way better than coming up with a new term On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 0:18, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 2/23/21 16:51, Bryce Cogswell via Diversity-talk wrote: > > The confusion is because the trans community is using the

[OSM-talk] I'm no-one's stooge!  | | Re: Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-09 Thread Rory McCann
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, at 21:46, Darafei Praliaskouski via talk wrote: > That was done by a former board member, an employee/owner of a company > that has a seating board member, and if we mirror the whole thing - > "done to protect Geofabrik's investment into having a seat on the > board". Of

[Diversity-talk] Etiquette Guidelines bad | Re: Code of conduct

2020-12-09 Thread Rory McCann
Have any of yous read the Ettiquette Guidelines¹? They're rubbish. Frederik broke them by publically calling Mike Migurski out, and for not assuming he was acting in good faith. *But* if anyone publishes something saying “What Frederik did was wrong” (like I (& others) did), then they are also

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] AI mapping roads released in IE

2020-12-08 Thread Rory McCann
Yeah this is basically the right list. Lots of that FB detect stuff is rubbish. They still haven't fixed it. Lots of dreck in there. On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, at 18:34, Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via Talk-ie wrote: > Hi, > > I never received a response about the question below.. Can I get

Re: [OSM-talk] Please review "Community attribution advice” wiki page

2020-12-08 Thread Rory McCann
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, at 09:43, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > Can you give an example of something that would follow > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_attribution_advice > and still would not fulfill ODBL? What is and isn't allowed by the ODbL can (I think) only be answered by a

Re: [OSM-talk] Please review "Community attribution advice” wiki page

2020-12-08 Thread Rory McCann
low §4.3, rather than speaking in generalities. On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, at 00:08, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > > > Rory McCann hat am 07.12.2020 22:57 geschrieben: > > > > But I think this attribution is too vague. It's advice seems to restate the > > relevant section

Re: [OSM-talk] Please review "Community attribution advice” wiki page

2020-12-07 Thread Rory McCann
It's good to see more discussion on this. I like that this document lays out the moral requirment to attribute. We don't ask for any money, but we do ask you to attribute us. It's a very good bargain. But I think this attribution is too vague. It's advice seems to restate the relevant section

[OSM-talk] srsly?! | Re: I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

2020-12-06 Thread Rory McCann
[ I've been trying to stay out of the election to the board, because as a current board member I'll be working with 3 of the candidates after the election, but I must respond to this. ] There are many examples of people excusing how Trump acted before the 2016 election, claiming he would be

Re: [Talk-us] Extremely long Amtrak route relations

2020-11-22 Thread Rory McCann
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020, at 18:06, Clay Smalley wrote: > Many long-distance Amtrak trains have route relations with 1000+ > members. If I split one way that happens to be a member of one of these > routes, I end up with a changeset with a gigantic bounding box, and > often get edit conflicts due to

[OSM-talk] FLOSS alt? | Re: reddit AMA with some OSMF Board members. 15:00Z 9 Nov

2020-10-30 Thread Rory McCann
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, at 10:04 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Rory, I am absolutely sure there was no bad intent in the choice of > format and platform, but given where this discussion went so fast, I > believe the setting should be reconsidered, evaluating the possibility > of choosing an

Re: [OSM-talk] reddit AMA with some OSMF Board members. 15:00Z 9 Nov

2020-10-29 Thread Rory McCann
ppear to be able to arcive reddit posts, so you have a way to view it. Anyway, I'll save the web page after and send it to you, just to be 100% sure. On Thu, 29 Oct 2020, at 9:30 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > > > Rory McCann hat am 29.10.2020 21:06 geschrieben: > >

Re: [OSM-talk] reddit AMA with some OSMF Board members. 15:00Z 9 Nov

2020-10-29 Thread Rory McCann
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020, at 9:00 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > I am looking forward to the practical demonstration on how the board > will implement their recently made commitment to open channels with > that: > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-August/007095.html This

[OSM-talk] reddit AMA with some OSMF Board members. 15:00Z 9 Nov

2020-10-29 Thread Rory McCann
Hello OSMers, Some of us on the OSM Foundation Board have agreed to do an AMA (Ask Me Anything) on the reddit forum for OpenStreetMap (aka “the r/openstreetmap subreddit”) starting on 15:00 UTC 9th November. It's an oppertunity to ask us some questions. Be gentle.  More details:

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Some of the 3300 parks in OSM Ireland are just patches of grass.

2020-10-18 Thread Rory McCann
I tend to do `landuse=grass` too If you want more work, you could see who'se adding these features, and talk to them to ask them to stop. On Sun, 18 Oct 2020, at 11:59 AM, Brian Hollinshead wrote: > As part of my researches into what features we have on OSM that might > interest someone wishing

[OSM-talk] Doocracy | Re: Idea for improving mapping system

2020-10-18 Thread Rory McCann
Like mnany things in OSM, the reason it hasn't been done is because no-one has actually done it yet. It looks like other people find your idea of "levels" and "badges" interesting, so you should try attempt it yourself. On Sun, 18 Oct 2020, at 4:31 AM, TheAdventurer64 wrote: > Hello everyone, >

[OSM-talk] elaborate? | Re: Examples of good paid mapping?

2020-09-25 Thread Rory McCann
This thread is literally a request for someone to name one of the companies that is "doing it right". Yes, people complain more than they compliment. It's alas human nature. This thread is an attempt to correct that. So to those saying some companies do it, right: Can you please give

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Blue Button download

2020-09-19 Thread Rory McCann
, 2020- 9-10 pm IST is there ? > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Virtual_Mappy_Hours > > We will move the videos to our youtube channel > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu5sKaPU04x0RJkgGkoFORw> . > > > thanks, > naveenpf > > > On Thu, Sep

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] some of my inconsistent tagging - cure sought

2020-09-18 Thread Rory McCann
JOSM's todo list plugin is very helpful here. do up to step 6, then use JOSM's find (control-f) for the `anglican=whatever` tag, add to todo list, then iteratively fix each one. Turning on continuous download helps too. You can fix up some details as you go. On Fri, 18 Sep 2020, at 5:55 PM,

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Blue Button download

2020-09-17 Thread Rory McCann
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, at 8:21 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > Can you confirm that we can leave the recordings on the server and are > able to link to the recordings for other sites, like the wiki? No, you can't rely on it like that. We only have limited storage space. Alas, we cannot offer a video

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Blue Button download

2020-09-17 Thread Rory McCann
Hi Martijn, Great to see people using the BBB server. We didn't ask to delete anything, the video is still there (I sent you the link off-list). When you view the Room in BBB, you should see “Room Recordings” underneath, which should have the recordings, do you see that? Then click on

[OSM-talk-ie] Irish Pub preset

2020-09-11 Thread Rory McCann
Hi all, In case yous missed it, iD v2.18.5 now has a preset (created by yours truly[]1] https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/7852 ) for “Irish Pubs” (`theme=irish`). This was deployed on 9th Sept 2020. And don't worry, the preset is disabled in Ireland to prevent everyone thinking

Re: [OSM-talk] Annual OSMF General Meeting on Saturday, 12 December 2020, 16:00 UTC

2020-09-11 Thread Rory McCann (OSMF Board)
Hi all, Remember, if you have not been an OSMF members for 90 days before the election, you are not entitled to vote for the OSMF Board. And that deadline is in a day or so. So, if I've done by maths right, if you're a member on 2020-09-12T23:59:59Z you can definitely vote, after that, you

[Talk-us] licence? | Re: [Imports] Importing data from alltheplaces.xyz

2020-08-22 Thread Rory McCann
That site is “A growing set of web scrapers designed to output consistent geodata about as many places of business in the world as possible.” I don't think it's CC0 licenced. It's a collection of other databases. Have they gotten permission from all the business that they scrape that they

Re: [Talk-us] Potential Mechanical Edit to remove access=private from Amazon Logistics driveways in NH

2020-08-17 Thread Rory McCann
I don't map in USA, but when I map driveways in Ireland, I add `access=private`. So I agree they should be there. However, is the data that Amazon added accurate & reliable? If it's of very poor standard, then deleting the tag would make OSM better & more reliable. On 17/08/2020 05:33,

[OSM-talk] wat | Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread Rory McCann
On 09.08.20 10:25, pangoSE wrote: I suggest we create a roadmap for deprecating of storing and updating names in OSM for objects with a Wikidata tag. Get rid of the “name” tag(s) in OSM? Absolutely not. It makes everything massively more complicated, there is very little benefit, and

Re: [OSM-talk] Many processes not defined | Re: Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

2020-08-05 Thread Rory McCann
I meant, that the board hasn't decided how the board will vote/appoint/choose the members of this panel. On 05/08/2020 01:07, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Tuesday 04 August 2020, Rory McCann wrote: The Board hasn't decided on how the panel will be formed/elected/appointed/choosen. Quoting

[OSM-talk] Many processes not defined | Re: Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

2020-08-04 Thread Rory McCann
The Board hasn't decided on how the panel will be formed/elected/appointed/choosen. Just because the document doesn't address one issue, doesn't mean the opposite, horrible option will happen. Do you think I'm going to support some Old Boy's Network of corporate employees? What would you

[OSM-talk] Suggestions welcome | Re: Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

2020-08-02 Thread Rory McCann
On 02.08.20 01:03, Skyler Hawthorne wrote: Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I think using any funds at all to continue support for a tool that 1% of editors use would be wasteful. Flash is, for all intents and purposes, a dead technology. This money is better spent on other uses. What would

[OSM-talk] Github Issue? Re: more engaging “about” page

2020-07-27 Thread Rory McCann
I'm sure there are ways for OSM to do better outreach, and that there are people who don't realise we would value their contributions. I think these wordings are set on the openstreetmap-website github project ( https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website ), so I think you should

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

2020-07-18 Thread Rory McCann
In addition (I can't find the link now but) I recall reading about the death of a hiker or climber who used some app which used OSM data, and the app didn't distinguish between track_types (or there was no track_type data for that route), so the hiker presumed it was OK to go on, and

[Talk-us] sweat of the brow & sui generis database rights | Re: Interested in importing address points in New York State

2020-07-16 Thread Rory McCann
On 16/07/2020 13:35, Russell Nelson wrote: As you say, it's just a listing of facts about the world. At most the presentation of them is copyrightable, but as Skyler noted, he's changing the presentation. No license needed for facts. Remember, that might the law in the USA, but not in the

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Does OSM have a similar concept as the "Organisation" from Mappilary?

2020-07-07 Thread Rory McCann
Hi Bianca. Welcome to OSM! From an OSM level, no. There are no “organisations”. Many people would really want to do it, and some people are working on adding that functionality to the OSM website code (“Microcosms”) but that hasn't been finished. It's great that you want to help do a

[OSM-talk-ie] name=Ireland | Re: name=Éire / Ireland

2020-06-08 Thread Rory McCann
I think `name=Ireland` is best. For `name`, the most commonly used name in the place for the thing is what it should be. And, whatever one things /should be/ the most common name, I think we can all agree that what /is/ the most common name is “Ireland”. `int_name` is a silly tag. I haven't

[OSM-talk]  | Re: OSM nicknames are Unicode characters? (not Ascii?)

2020-05-28 Thread Rory McCann
ha! Awesome! My OSM username is like that. It's so out there that I am unable to log into the OSM Forum, & help.osm.org. When I try to put it on the wiki directly, it deletes the whole page. It's great fun.  ⁽¹⁾ It's a nice way to find unicode bugs in OSM software. (And remember: people

Re: [OSM-talk] Let's talk Attribution

2020-05-02 Thread Rory McCann
On 02.05.20 16:54, Yves wrote: IMHO, a a/b/c/d kind of vote like for the last Article of Association change would be preferable to really have a more representative idea of the contributor feelings. Could the OSMF set up such a process? Some of the attributions cases are certainly simple enough

Re: [OSM-talk] Let's talk Attribution

2020-05-02 Thread Rory McCann (OSMF Board)
On 02.05.20 14:01, Yves wrote: Could somebody enlight me about the new Attribution Guidelines process? How it is envisioned to adopt the document that is currently worked upon? A vote, a decision for the board, or else? The OSMF Board to vote on it/something, making it “The Attribution

Re: [Talk-de] Dienste für virtuelle OSM-Stammtische - Datenschutz

2020-04-27 Thread Rory McCann
On 22.04.20 08:11, Markus via Talk-de wrote: Zum von der OSMF-gehosteten BBB-System (US?) bin ich unsicher. (wobei unserer Stammtische ja meist nicht besonders kritisch sind) Der OSMF BBB Server ist in Frankfurt bei Hetzner gehosted. Es kommt von die europaische Firme Collective68

Re: [Diversity-talk] UK Chapter Feedback on Diversity Statement

2020-04-23 Thread Rory McCann
Yes the diversity statement has been beneficial. Plenty of people from marginalized groups have experienced lots of bad things, so one cannot assume that everyone agrees On 23 April 2020 20:41:05 CEST, "Sören Reinecke via Diversity-talk" wrote:

Re: [Diversity-talk] UK Chapter Feedback on Diversity Statement

2020-04-21 Thread Rory McCann
Hi Adam, Thanks for the feedback from OSMUK. The 2nd line of the Diversity Statement says: We have created this diversity statement because we believe that a diverse OpenStreetMap community is stronger and more vibrant. A diverse community where people treat each other with respect has more

[Diversity-talk] OSM US is working on their CoC

2020-04-21 Thread Rory McCann
Hi all, I haven't seen this on the list yet, but for those who aren't aware, OpenStreetMap US is looking at their Code of Conduct. They have a draft replacement, and are soliciting feedback, I think.

[Talk-us] OEG say so | Re: Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-29 Thread Rory McCann
On 22.03.20 01:45, brad wrote: How can I tell who is a one-edit-and-done spam, amazon logistics account, and who is a first edit noob? The Organised Editing Guidelines do say: A user’s profile page should also include links to the wiki pages of the organised edits and organisations they

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

2020-03-20 Thread Rory McCann
On 19/03/2020 20:15, Mikel Maron wrote: This whole thread is blown out of proportion, and rehashing old theoretical debates about imports that are more or less resolved in practice. Yes, we have an import guideline. But this thread is from Facebook trying to change that. To side step

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

2020-03-20 Thread Rory McCann
On 19/03/2020 17:28, Christoph Hormann wrote: I think I have said that in the past already: "Assume good faith" as a general principle can on OSM only work w.r.t. individuals taking full and permanant responsibility for their own actions. There cannot be an assumption of good faith for

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-11 Thread Rory McCann
Hi Christian, That's a interesting approach, and interesting to see that it gets results. If you think it's too rude, or aggressive, you should remember that polite words sometimes don't work. If you don't like people shouting at you, then it's your fault for ignoring them when they speak

Re: [OSM-talk] The benefits of cross-linking OSM and Wikidata

2020-03-05 Thread Rory McCann
On 05/03/2020 15:25, Sören Reinecke via talk wrote: > couldn't we do a vote about that? Would it be possible for the OSMF to > maintain and coordinate such a voting. Yes, we _could_. It would require a 2/3 majority of “active [OSM] contributors”, which is (intentionally) a large number (about

[OSM-talk-ie] opening_hours=sunrise-sunset | Re: How to tag gates to public parks that are only open during daylight hours

2020-03-04 Thread Rory McCann
Hi Neil, This sounds like an `opening_hours` tag on the gate, and as Dave correctly points out, probably on the park as well (presuming that _all_ gates to the park are like this). The opening_hours syntax is very powerful. You can put `sunrise`/`dawn`/`dusk`/`sunset` instead of hours.

[OSM-talk] How to map an OpenStreetMap map?

2020-02-29 Thread Rory McCann
In OSM, large map boards can be mapped as `tourist=information,information=map`. OSM is pretty good quality, so now some of these maps are based on OSM data. Is there anyway to record this in OSM? IMO, you don't need a reason to map something, but one benefit is to help people promote OSM. If

Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some existing detailed tutorial directed at complete newbies? Describing how to add various features?

2020-02-21 Thread Rory McCann
Isn't this the job of the editing software (incl it's presets)? If there's a search box and the user can type in (eg) "path" and draw the path, then that's how you teach newbies? Has this user tried to use iD (the best new user friendly editor today) to do this? Does that do the job? If not,

[OSM-talk] IME no proposals needed | Re: Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

2020-02-18 Thread Rory McCann
I don't know what your experience with the OSM wiki is, but I've created new wiki pages for new tags, without bothering with proposal pages. When has anyone told you that you need to do that? Did someone write that down somewhere? Maybe that should be corrected. Do you have links to where you

[OSM-talk] For the sake of peace | Re: Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-17 Thread Rory McCann
ment, so I (and others) can design future logo remixes without implying endorsement. I never intended, or what to, imply OSMF endorsement, and I would like to know how to avoid that. Let's get back to mapping the world. Rory On 13/02/2020 23:01, Rory McCann wrote: Hello fellow OSMers!  So this

[OSM-talk] 1e7 | Re: OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-14 Thread Rory McCann
On 13/02/2020 00:15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Il giorno 13 feb 2020, alle ore 00:05, Colin Smale ha scritto: Locations are stored in OSM as pairs of {lat,lon} and I assume these are both 64-bit floats in the database. AFAIK they are stored as integers (shifting the decimals) They are

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-13 Thread Rory McCann
Hello fellow OSMers!  So this is from me. Last year I made some mashups of the OSM logo. There is often a lot of big business presence at tech/FLOSS conferences now, so I thought “What would be the opposite of that?” I am pretty lefty, and I do like OSM's

Re: [OSM-talk] Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-08 Thread Rory McCann
On 08.02.20 12:01, Colin Smale wrote: Absolutely. But we should document our sources! Basic rule of research. And if we choose to promote one alternative above the others, we are skating on thin ice. IMO, the "alternative" OSM promotes is "what's on the ground". Let's nail our colours to the

[OSM-talk] OSM/LondonOSM | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-08 Thread Rory McCann
On 07.02.20 20:22, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: (e.g. two fairly large groups of people could refer to the same place/object by different names). ... the map should be able to reflect difference of opinions to some "reasonable" degree (an intentionally vague term). One useful example of that is a city

[OSM-talk] OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-08 Thread Rory McCann
On 07.02.20 20:12, stevea wrote: A well-known example is (national, other) boundaries, which frequently do not exist "on the ground," National borders don't exist on the ground? huh? Have you ever actually _crossed_ an international border? I assure you they exist on the ground. From large

Re: [OSM-talk] Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-08 Thread Rory McCann
It is true that government A might have one opinion, and government B might have another, and Provisional Autonomous Republic of C might have another opinion. But there can be another way. We go there, and we see what nearly everyone there calls it. We look at the words on the signs. We

[OSM-talk] Want some OSM Swag/Stickers? New Promotional Material Programme

2020-02-01 Thread Rory McCann
Hi all, As some know, the Communications WG is trying to get better at helping promote OpenStreetMap. Over the past few months, I've sent out lots of stickers. Here's details of the new Promotional Material Programme. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Promotional_Material_Programme If

Re: [OSM-talk] changing tables for adults

2020-01-22 Thread Rory McCann
On 22/01/2020 10:31, Holger Dieterich wrote: > I suggest to use this new tag to describe changing places which are > specifically made to be suitable for adults: > * > * > *changing_table:suitableforadults=yes/no* I think `changing_table:adult=yes/no` reads better, it's the same meaning, but

[OSM-talk] New tool to convert OSM (history) tagging data to CSV

2020-01-21 Thread Rory McCann
Hi all, I've made a tool to convert OSM data to CSV, aimed for history files but works on all PBFs, making one CSV row per tag change: https://github.com/rory/osm-tag-csv-history CSV is a very popular format, and lots of other programmes can use it. I hope this tool helps new people

[OSM-talk] New Telegram chat for OSM + LGBTQIA*

2020-01-11 Thread Rory McCann
Hello all, A new Telegram group has been set up: “RainbOSM”. A chat about LGBTQIA* issues and OpenStreetMap.  Join here: https://t.me/joinchat/BDLI7xMzuF5TRZ5lwLYxkA -- R ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[Diversity-talk] New Telegram chat for OSM + LGBTQIA*

2020-01-11 Thread Rory McCann
Hello all, A new Telegram group has been set up: “RainbOSM”. A chat about LGBTQIA* issues and OpenStreetMap.  Join here: https://t.me/joinchat/BDLI7xMzuF5TRZ5lwLYxkA -- R ___ Diversity-talk mailing list Code of Conduct:

[Diversity-talk] +100 & tagging? | Re: LGBT spaces and HIV facilities Mapathon

2020-01-09 Thread Rory McCann
Hi Mikko, This is a great initiative.  Alas I'm far away from the Philippines, so I can't take part. Can you tell us more about the tagging scheme you're using? How are you mapping things? On 09/01/2020 09:46, Mikko Tamura wrote: In the Philippines, we will be conducting an LGBT spaces

[Diversity-talk] Yes, this CoC can look at behaviour on twitter | Re: Diversity 2020 Article

2020-01-09 Thread Rory McCann
Hi all! I am your friendly admin of this mailing list, which has a CoC (link in footer of all emails). On 08/01/2020 05:17, Marc Gemis wrote: Would a Code of Conduct also apply to social media that are not controlled by OSM/OSMF? E.g. Twitter is currently used by a certain part of the

[OSM-talk] Too subjective & problematic Re: no-go-areas

2020-01-01 Thread Rory McCann
This topic has come up before, and unfortunately when you think about it, there is no objective way to define a "no go area". It's all subjective. So it doesn't belong in OSM. People do live in many of these areas, so software that didn't route in/through these areas would be pretty bad for

[Diversity-talk] Fwd: Creating an "Organization of Cartographers for Social Equality" map with OpenStreetMap

2019-11-21 Thread Rory McCann
Might be interesting to some Forwarded Message Subject: [OSM-talk] Creating an "Organization of Cartographers for Social Equality" map with OpenStreetMap Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 09:23:39 + From: Andy Mabbett To: OSM talk mailing list This blog post, by my friend

[OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-14 Thread Rory McCann
Hello all, Facebook provide download dumps of their machine detected roads on a country by country basis¹. It's great to see direct access to this data, allowing us to look at that data without having to use a raw API. Well done Facebook. That webpage says the data is MIT licenced (_data_ under

[OSM-talk] Changing OSM Username is easy | Re: Maintaining privacy as a casual mapper

2019-11-04 Thread Rory McCann
On 03/11/2019 19:19, Blake Girardot wrote: I am not happy about it and I could get my osm username changed > ... > If you have a username that is tied to a public or other used name of > some sort, my advice is to ask the user name to be changed. Just for anyone who wants to do this, changing

[OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download server maintains privacy | Re: Maintaining privacy as a casual mapper

2019-11-03 Thread Rory McCann
On 03.11.19 11:42, Philippe Latulippe wrote: Are there better ways to maintain some privacy while editing the map? Are there some tools? Or is there a way to make edits in a way that doesn't reveal my username to regular users? It might interest you to know that on the Geofabrik download

[OSM-talk-ie] theme it is for me then | Re: How to map Irish pubs?

2019-10-14 Thread Rory McCann
On 09/10/2019 00:14, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 8 Oct 2019, 23:43 by t4d...@gmail.com: >> This doesn't directly solve the problem, but you could use the >> brand tag and put in the Guinness and other drinks that are >> traditionally in an Irish pub if you knew their selection. > > I would expect

Re: [Diversity-talk] Your talk submission for SotM 2019

2019-09-17 Thread Rory McCann
Sat. lunchtime or 2nd break is fine with me. See yous soon! :) On So, Sep 15, 2019 at 6:20 PM, Heather Leson wrote: Dennis, we would love for you to join us. Please add your name to the hackpad. All - would it be possible to meet at lunch or second break on saturday to talk through the

[OSM-talk] MS GitHub? | Re: Tagging Governance

2019-09-12 Thread Rory McCann
On 12/09/2019 11:36, Frederik Ramm wrote: Except that this often excludes everyone who can write and is *not* a computer programmer. It think this is what Christoph hinted at when he wrote: Is there any mature and writer centric software that implements this kind of model? I mean that from

Re: [Diversity-talk] Your talk submission for SotM 2019

2019-09-08 Thread Rory McCann
Hi all, I'm happy lend a helping hand if I can. I put my name on the pad. I was considering of running a LGBTQ* "bird of a feather"/"self organized session" at SotM too which is sorta related. Rory On So, Sep 8, 2019 at 8:47 PM, Miriam Mapanauta wrote: Hi Heather, I am happy to

[OSM-talk] Chaos Communications Camp 2019?

2019-08-18 Thread Rory McCann
Hello, I wondered if ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Chaos Communications Camp 2019?

2019-08-18 Thread Rory McCann
(Not to self: don't press send too early!) I wonder if anyone else is going to the Chaos Communications Camp next week? Is there going to be much OSM stuff/people there? I'll be there, hit me up if you wanna meet up. :) https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/ On 18.08.19 19:16, Rory McCann wrote

[Diversity-talk] Fwd: Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap

2019-08-09 Thread Rory McCann
The OSM Foundation is trying to find out more about the OSM community/ies! Forwarded Message Subject: Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 13:59:34 +0300 From: Dorothea Kazazi To: t...@openstreetmap.org Hello, The following survey on

[Diversity-talk] Fwd: International Day of the World's Indigenous Peoples

2019-08-09 Thread Rory McCann
Might be interesting Forwarded Message Subject:International Day of the World's Indigenous Peoples Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 22:31:07 + (UTC) From: Suchith Anand via talk Reply-To: Suchith Anand To: Osm-talk The International Day of the World’s

[Diversity-talk] 100% unofficial | Re: Offer: Want helping adding presets to iD?

2019-08-06 Thread Rory McCann
On 06.08.19 20:58, Rory McCann wrote: So what's next? What can we add next?  I'm happy to mentor anyone who'd like to improve iD in this way. I've been a software dev for years, so I know my way around a github pull request, but not everyone is experienced like that. So I can help you

[Diversity-talk] Offer: Want helping adding presets to iD?

2019-08-06 Thread Rory McCann
Hi all, I recently suggest a patch for LGBTQ* presets in iD[1] and it was released! It wasn't too hard to do (kudos to the iD devs for making it very easy to test locally). And it seem to be used lots now.[2] So what's next? What can we add next?  I'm happy to mentor anyone who'd like to

[OSM-talk] `computer_vision_assisted=yes` changeset tag?

2019-08-06 Thread Rory McCann
Hi all, With the increased usage of computer vision generated mapping data, would it be a good idea for people/editors to set a `computer_vision_assisted=yes` tag on changeset which use that? We have `import=yes` and `bot=yes` for data import & automated edits (resp.), so this is in keeping

[Diversity-talk] Fwd: GeoForAll meeting at FOSS4G 2019

2019-08-05 Thread Rory McCann
Might be interesting to some Forwarded Message Subject:GeoForAll meeting at FOSS4G 2019 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 11:18:45 + (UTC) Reply-To: Suchith Anand To: t...@openstreetmap.org GeoForAll is committed to provide geoeducation and Digital economy

[OSM-talk] erm... imports still go on | Re: Isn't it nice to share?  | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-08-02 Thread Rory McCann
There have been, and continue to be, data imports, automated editing,and AI type things (like this Facebook). Yes some are unhappy about this, but it does _happen_. Facebook fights you in court for a copy of your own personal data, which is a fundamental right. They're bound to hold on to

[OSM-talk] Isn't it nice to share?  | Re: Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-08-02 Thread Rory McCann
On 01/08/2019 18:35, Kathleen Lu via talk wrote: I don't think it's disingenuous at all for Facebook to use their own POIs instead of OSM's. Wasn't the whole point of the Collective Databases principle and the Collective Databases Guideline specifically to enable this type of usage, so that

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-17 Thread Rory McCann
I don't think this counts as “tagging for the renderer”, which is more about adding false data to “make the map look like what you want” (e.g. “I want a blue line here, like the `route=ferry` line, so I'll use that”). I think it could be very helpful for place names which aren't pronounced

[Talk-us] Careful, "st" can mean "stone" in some places | Re: Typical maxweight signs in USA? (editor developmnent question)

2019-06-27 Thread Rory McCann
On 25/06/2019 20:01, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 25 Jun 2019, 17:47 by pe...@dobratz.us: Reading this page, I see the potential ambiguity extends deeper than I realized (short ton, metric ton, long ton) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonne AFAIK all cases of "t" in USA on max weight signs means

[Talk-GB] max_age=toddler? | Re: Playground age limits

2019-06-04 Thread Rory McCann
On 04/06/2019 16:21, Martin Wynne wrote: In the local park there are two areas of play equipment for children. One is fenced off and clearly intended for infants/toddlers accompanied by parents. Next to it there is a larger unfenced area containing play equipment for unsupervised older

Re: [Diversity-talk] Opening hours syntax for non Gregorian calendar

2019-05-22 Thread Rory McCann
Hi all, There was a question on the tagging mailing list about non-gregorian calendars. No clear resolution. Just another thing with making one map of the whole world. R/ On 17/05/2019 20:40, Saeed Hubaishan wrote: As I see in the wiki opening hours should be in Gregorian calendar only. 

[OSM-legal-talk] Colour your bits | Re: OSM for training ML machines

2019-05-12 Thread Rory McCann
On 10.04.19 16:39, Tom Lee via legal-talk wrote: I have sometimes sene[sic] similar arguments about intellectual property brought up in engineering-focused conversations, which propose elaborate technical mechanisms by which data might be transformed, then recreated, > and in the process its

[OSM-talk] Downsides of storing QA data in OSM data, Way ids! | Re: iD invents nosquare=yes for buildings which should not be squared

2019-05-12 Thread Rory McCann
There certainly is benefit to piggybacking QA data on the OSM databases, but there are downsides. Moving a node will not change the way's version id. This change can make the building square/notsqure/overlap/whatever. The way needs to be rechecked by the QA tool. But it can't know know that from

[OSM-talk] Software configuration | Re: iD influencing tagging

2019-04-10 Thread Rory McCann
On 07.04.19 14:43, John Whelan wrote: Tagging is not always easy, but I do have concerns when iD is so commonly used but the recommended tags do not align with OpenStreetMap I'll say normals. Specifically one of my concerns is a semi-detached house is not recognised in iD only the more

[OSM-talk] Dialects of English | Re: iD influencing tagging

2019-04-10 Thread Rory McCann
A better example might be "college", which has different meanings in different dialects of English, or "gallon" or "football" I don't think there is a solution this, except better localization of software. Or we all just switch to Esperanto or Irish or something. If you want real fun, just

[talk-au] Existing OSM precedent | Re: Aboriginal art sites

2019-04-03 Thread Rory McCann
On 01/04/2019 12:27, Ian Sergeant wrote: is this form of censorship practised anywhere else in OSM - maybe for other indigenous people - that we could copy their model? I don't think "censorship" is a helpful term here. But there has been a practice in OSM to *not* map certain things, such

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Rory McCann
On 19/03/2019 09:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Old style wikipedia link is one where language is stored in key, not in value. For example "wikipedia:en=Ireland" is an old style link, while "wikipedia=en:Ireland" is a form that is currently standard. To expand, what do you mean here? What makes

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Rory McCann
I'm not sure why one would bother with this, but whatever. Are they any cases where there are more than wikipedia:XX tag, and what will you do in that case? What will the wikipedia tag be? On 19/03/2019 09:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Old style wikipedia link is one where language is stored

[OSM-talk] pic4review | Re: 140 000 shops of unspecified type

2019-03-15 Thread Rory McCann
On 15/03/2019 11:08, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: how to find it? JOSM validator since latest released version complains about shop=yes - just download data and run validator Osmose has support for displaying JOSM validator complaints http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/#item=9002=1%2C2%2C3==

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Thread Rory McCann
Hi all, I find this funny in a way. Traditionally, big corps disliked "share-alike" open source/data licences, like ODbL, GNU GPL (or the Affero GPL!), and prefer "attribution only" licences like BSD. And here we have companies not liking the attribution requirement! If they won't follow our

[OSM-talk] KeepRight might do that already | Re: HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-02-27 Thread Rory McCann
On 27/02/2019 15:08, Andy Mabbett wrote: P.S. It would also be worth considering extending or adapting the code, so that if an error like 404 is found, or a timeout occurs, then either: * a fixme tag, or note, is created * an entry is made on a wiki page or similar or both of the above. I

[OSM-talk] Other tags/values | Re: HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-02-26 Thread Rory McCann
Hi, As far as I remember, you're not planning on touching other tags, like `contact:website`. *But* what happens if an object has `website=http://example.com,contact:website=http://example.com`? You'd make it inconsistant! I suggest a simple solution: If any other tag has that same value,

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-02-26 Thread Rory McCann
On 26/02/2019 14:45, Joseph Reeves wrote: As an aside, HSTS is interesting here because the website operator is saying "only use this domain over https", but at that point, we don't need to make changes to the database because the web client should be aware of the HSTS preload list; the protocol

[Diversity-talk] Fwd: Arabic Translation Needed

2019-02-20 Thread Rory McCann
Maybe someone here is more multilingual than me. Forwarded Message Subject:Arabic Translation Needed Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 15:17:42 +0300 From: Jessica Bergmann Hi everyone! We are looking to support some of our corporate partners engaging in mapping activities

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