Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Water ATM's

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Agree, vending machine makes sense if its an automated coin operated
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Re: [Talk-in] Need guidance in launching a HOT project in Bangalore for mapping the lakes

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 5:10 AM Nagesh Aras  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Several activist groups in Bangalore have come together with the aim of
> mapping the water system in the city, which includes the lakes, and
> drainage system. The aim is to digitize thold maps to know what was the
> original shape and size of the lakes, and then do the local surveys to find
> out how much of the lake territory is encroached.
>
> We would like to set up the online HOT map for this purpose.
>
> Can anyone guide us about the steps required for this project?
>
> Also, if there are any permissions to be taken, who should I contact?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Nagesh
>

This is great! Looks like there are two parts:
- Digitize old maps: this one is tricky because old maps have various
quality issues. Vectorizing them might be resource intensive and not too
useful. Can you share an example of these old maps?
- Survey existing lakes. This is where OSM can be helpful. To scope this
out better maybe we should start with one particular lake to test out what
is the best strategy of satellite image tracing and field survey that will
work for the accuracy needed.

The OSM India telegram group is fairly active and can be helpful to
coordinate this in further detail: https://t.me/OSMIndia
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Re: [Talk-in] Virtual Mappy Hours - India - Feb 2020

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Thanks Naveen for coordinating this. I'm thinking of talking about the
various type of boundaries, how it can be mapped and current progress for
India. If you have other ideas on what would be good to cover, do share
your thoughts.

On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 3:42 AM Naveen Francis  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Date:- Feb 26, 2020- 9-10 pm IST
> Topic :- Boundaries ( administrative, political and lsg boundary) - How to
> use OSM data ?
>  Arun Ganesh, OSM India
>
> Please Join.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Virtual_Mappy_Hours
>
> Thanks
> naveenpf
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Re: [Talk-in] OSM India Chapter

[Arun Ganesh]

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:32 PM Arun Ganesh 
wrote:

>
>>
>> now we have a model where PyCon India [1] is organized on rotation from
>> various users groups from around country,these users groups aka chapters
>> have no formal body they exist on Mailing lists and meetup groups [2] they
>> first show case the strenght in organizing the event of this magnitude then
>> we rally behind them to make it happen, its the local organizing community
>> which drives and decides how they want to spend the money for an event ,
>> there are no gatekeepers at the end of the event all the financials are
>> made public after every event.
>>
>>
> Quite impressive, this also encourages smaller local groups to be active
> rather than having a powerful central body which inevitably tends to become
> distanced from those on the ground.
>
> Does every conference need to find a new supporting institution to handle
> financials? Thats a part that can burn out volunteers trying to organize
> events/conferences and making sure the accounting is taken care of.
>
>
>
Coming back to the original reasons for an OSM chapter to be able to
officially use the OSM trademark, do the python user groups not have this
issue?
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Re: [Talk-in] OSM India Chapter

[Arun Ganesh]

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:52 PM Pradeep Mohandas <
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> In the Virtual Mappy Hours held yesterday, the OSM Chair Allan Mustard had
> suggested that we go ahead with the formation of an Indian chapter and
> officially affiliate with the OSM Foundation. This enables us to use the
> OSM Trademark officially.
>
> I thought I would start the thread on this list for people interested in
> this effort.
>
I know that there is an active Telegram group going on, but I think putting
> things on the mailing list will help archive the effort and discussion that
> goes into formation of a Chapter. For future historians of the
> movement,this would be something akin to the Constituent Assembly
> discussions are to India today.
>
> On the chat yesterday, I had cautioned that India has had previous bitter
> experiences with running organisations wherein a Foundation manages the
> organisations or groups in various countries. We are seeing the effect of
> that in the Wikimedia movement in India. Naveen, also on this group, has
> first-hand experience with this as he was involved in the formation of the
> Wikimedia India Chapter.
>
> I hope that such previous experiences of the members here will help us
> avoid the pitfalls and help to form a much more stronger OSM India Chapter.
> In India, the experience has been that the introduction of an organisation
> leads to dis-organisation of the community. I hope we can stay in this
> together and for the long haul.
>
>
This is a welcome step and i support the setting up of a chapter as a
longtime contributor to the project.  We've organically grown as a hobby
community very nicely and with bigger players like corporates and the
government starting to use the data, it feels like having a legal
organization can enable much more to happen.

Having also seen constant mailing list drama with the Wikimedia India
chapter, it would definitely be wise to learn from the chapter forming
experiences of other open communities in India.

Lets list a few such successful and thriving chapters that folks are aware
of and that might help think of the next steps and folks to rope in for
guidance.

Even more importantly, if anyone feels this is not a good idea, this is the
time to speak up and share their concerns.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

[Arun Ganesh]

Well put stevea!
Lets not forget what originally brought many of us here together (at least
from my interactions with many of you in real life), a dream that humans
could create the most accurate representation of the world through open
collaboration.The support of FB massively increases the surface area of the
OSM project to touch more humans through a single window than any other
mediums we can currently imagine.

Most of the world is still under represented in the hobby/craftmapper group
that is the dominant voice of this list and forum. More people from smaller
cities and towns have gotten involved in OSM in India/South Asia from FB
groups than other channels simply because its more easily accessible and
has a greater reach to a largely phone based internet population.

This is an opportunity to figure out a meaningful way to collaborate
constructively, and if its not happening in the way it should be, the
priority is to figure out how to facilitate that conversation in a
productive way. Making this a hobbyist vs corporate battle will just close
the door on a lot of the world which deserves to benefit from this project
and our collective work, and this is a world very different from what is
represented today on this list. How many know that as you read this, over
11 million people (thats the population of Belgium) are displaced in active
floods in India at this moment? FB/Whatsapp are what most people are using
to communicate and coordinate on the ground, they wouldn't care if it was a
corporate pariah or not as long as it works and can be used to help each
other.

If theres any place where volunteers who take pains to survey their
neighborhoods in great detail and make maps should be talking to first
responders in natural disasters and figure out best ways to collaborate
this is the place. Sure, corporates may be driven by profit, but behind
those layers and PR and AI, its still humans who sweat it out and
ultimately trying to build a better world using technology.

Full disclosure that i grew and managed one of the first organized
corporate mapping teams on OSM. You can call me a wonk or a paid agent and
thats fine, it wont stop me from tracing glaciers from satellite imagery in
the Himalayas in my free time and figuring out how it can help more people
on the ground. And yes, those glaciers have probably melted away and theres
no practical way to ground truth them, hopefully no one is annoyed at me
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[Talk-in] Tutorial for OSM tileserver with corrected borders

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Quite often there are folks looking to build their own tileserver with the
borders of India matching official government ones. Since doing this
involves a bit of poking through different guides, it was not always a very
pleaseant experience for those unfamiliar with the whole rendering
toolchain and the boundary data.

Theres finally a very thorough and detailed guide for this made by
user:azaadshatru including all bits of code and config files. You can take
a look at his diary entry:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/azaadshatru/diary/390300

Guide:
https://github.com/azaadshatru/OSM/blob/master/Configuration%20of%20OSM%20Server%20to%20rednder%20correct%20map%20of%20India.pdf

This hopefully makes it a lot easier for those who want to hack on building
a custom tileserver and try out some local language tiles.
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Re: [Talk-in] OSM India partnership with upcoming YourStory.in conference

[Arun Ganesh]

Hi everyone, happy to share that we are officially community partners with
YourStory for their technology conference Future of Work [1] in Bengaluru
on Feb 9th.

Tickets are priced Rs 4k and YourStory is offering 15 free passes to
members of the OSM India community to attend. This is a great opportunity
to network with folks in the tech sector, so do make use of it.

>From the event site:* Future of Work conference will bring together the
finest minds redefining technology and product innovation, to build
conversation on the new frontiers of technology and talent. Check out some
really exciting speakers in their lineup from from tech, product and design
backgrounds: *
https://events.yourstory.com/future-of-work-2019#Speakers_Present

*They will have a mix of developers, technologists, corporates and CXOs
present in the audience and will like you to be there as well and be a part
of some really interesting conversations.*

*Date – Feb 09, 2019 | Saturday*

*Time - 9 am onwards *
*Venue – MLR Convention Centre, Whitefield, Bengaluru *
https://osm.org/go/yy41UlsqB-?m==1660031400

They have limited seats so request you to register at the earliest. They
will get back to you with the final confirmation and the pass.
Registration link: https://goo.gl/forms/9Wx7Jlw1Ef233CNu2

Please send me a direct mail if you have issues getting the pass. Feel free
to share in other OSM channels.

[1] https://events.yourstory.com/future-of-work-2019

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Re: [Talk-in] OSM India partnership with upcoming YourStory.in conference

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Yourstory have just got back with the content for the mailer and social
media post. I'll post on the list and fb and i'll reach out to the twitter
channel maintainers to post it there.
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Re: [Talk-in] Redesigning the OSM India Logo

[Arun Ganesh]

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 8:23 AM Chetan H A  wrote:

> Hi Arun,
>
> The current logo very good for me. It's the same we are using in @osm_in
> twitter. Thanks to Srividya for creating this.
>
>
Chetan the logo is good, and thanks to Srividya for taking the initiative
to make it.

Brought it up because the flag code of India restricts the use of the
Indian flag in a logo
https://tilakmarg.com/answers/use-of-colour-combination-of-indian-national-flag-in-company-logo/
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[Talk-in] Redesigning the OSM India Logo

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Theres a logo available for OSM India that can be used online and on
publicity materials:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OpenStreetMap-India.svg

Since using Indian flag needs to follow the flag code
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_code_of_India , it might be a good idea
to have a logo without the flag.

The logo has not been used much till now, but this can come in handy in
future for events and swag. If someone has fresh ideas on what the logo can
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Re: [Talk-in] OSM India partnership with upcoming YourStory.in conference

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>
>
>
> Hi Arun,
>
> Looks like a good idea and opportunity let us know what help you need in
> this matter.
>

Thanks Satya, also the response on the Telegram group has been positive.
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[Talk-in] OSM India partnership with upcoming YourStory.in conference

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Hey all, i've got an interesting request for OSM India to be a
community/outreach partner for an upcoming conference from yourstory.in
called Future of work on 9th Feb in Bengaluru.

According to the event site https://events.yourstory.com/future-of-work-2019
it looks like a product innovation/entrepreneurship type summit with a very
large reach in the Indian startup industry.

Excerpt from the email:


> *Deliverables from YourStory*-YourStory to provide an exclusive flat 60%
> discount for all OpenStreetMap members
> -Branding as outreach partner on the Future of Work website
> -Branding as outreach partners at Future of Work venue for two days
> -Social media shoutout as outreach partners on YourStory Facebook and
> Twitter handles
> -5 free passes for the team
> -10 additional free passes - based on relevance, to be filtered by
> YourStory team
> *Deliverables from **OpenStreetMap*
>  -Send out a minimum of 2 mailers to the internal database about Future
> of Work with the special promo code customised for you
> -A minimum of 2 social media posts on Twitter and Facebook each
> -Promotion of Future of Work promo code among members & Community
> -Promotion of Future of Work promo code among groups


Overall, it sounds like there will be much visibility for OSM in the
startup circles by partnering. YourStory is a reputed media platform with
significant network reach in India. The main ask from the community is to
post 2 promotional posts on twitter and facebook each.

In return we get 5 free passes (worth INR 4k each) and OSM India logo in
the event branding.

Since we dont have a formal association to decide on such matters, sharing
to see if others feels this could be a valuable partnership to pursue and
any opinions on why we this may not be a good idea.

Full email:

Hi Arun,
>
> Hope you are doing well!
>
> I am writing to you from YourStory, India's leading digital media
> platform for technology and startup ecosystem with 20+ million monthly
> visitors.
>
> We're happy to announce the second edition of our annual flagship
> technology conference, Future of Work 2019. In this edition, we plan to
> make it bigger and better (with more curated sessions and audience). We
> will love to partner with you to make that happen.
>
> Here's the link to the website
>  which will give you an
> overview of the scale of event, the kind of stakeholders involved and the
> kind of session we conduct at Future of Work.
>
> We would love to have you as our Outreach/Community partner for the same.
> Below are the terms of the partnership that we propose:
>
> *Deliverables from YourStory*
> -YourStory to provide an exclusive flat 60% discount for all
> OpenStreetMap members
> -Branding as outreach partner on the Future of Work website
> -Branding as outreach partners at Future of Work venue for two days
> -Social media shoutout as outreach partners on YourStory Facebook and
> Twitter handles
> -5 free passes for the team
> -10 additional free passes - based on relevance, to be filtered by
> YourStory team
>
> *Deliverables from **OpenStreetMap*
> -Send out a minimum of 2 mailers to the internal database about Future of
> Work with the special promo code customised for you
> -A minimum of 2 social media posts on Twitter and Facebook each
> -Promotion of Future of Work promo code among members & Community
> -Promotion of Future of Work promo code among groups
>
> Please let us know how can we take this forward.
>
> Looking forward to hearing from you. Please feel free to reach out to me
> at  in case of any further queries.
>
> Warm regards
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Re: [Talk-in] Seeking help / resource persons for bulk data imports

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Hi Nikhil, any dataset to be imported will need to follow the import
guidelines https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

It can look like a long winded process, but has been put together from past
learnings. A good first step is to share what is the data being imported so
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Re: [Talk-in] Mapping party and theodolite making at Science Hack Day Belgaum Nov 2-4

[Arun Ganesh]

Have created a page on the wiki if anyone wants to share a link
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Events/Science_Hack_Day_Belgaum_2018

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 9:20 PM Arun Ganesh  wrote:

> For folks near Belgaum and attending Science Hack Day India 2018
> http://sciencehackday.in, lets have an OSM mapping party as a pre event
> to SoTM on Nov 2.
>
> There will also be a hacking project to design and build a DIY theodolite
> that  students can use to create maps using trigonometry for those
> interested in joining in as a resident hacker for all three days.
>
> If you are attending do send me an email and we can coordinate.
>
>
>
>
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[Talk-in] Mapping party and theodolite making at Science Hack Day Belgaum Nov 2-4

[Arun Ganesh]

For folks near Belgaum and attending Science Hack Day India 2018
http://sciencehackday.in, lets have an OSM mapping party as a pre event to
SoTM on Nov 2.

There will also be a hacking project to design and build a DIY theodolite
that  students can use to create maps using trigonometry for those
interested in joining in as a resident hacker for all three days.

If you are attending do send me an email and we can coordinate.
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Re: [Talk-in] weeklyOSM #427 2018-09-18-2018-09-24

[Arun Ganesh]

A highlight specific to India is a nice article about the increased
interest in OSM in India on factor daily that features various members from
this list:

https://factordaily.com/an-open-source-resistance-takes-shape-as-tech-giants-race-to-map-the-world/

Congratulations everyone!

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 12:40 PM weeklyteam  wrote:

> The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 427,
> is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all
> things happening in the openstreetmap world:
>
> http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10754/
>
> Enjoy!
>
> weeklyOSM?
> who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages
> where?:
> https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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Re: [Talk-in] National hospital directory data in ODGL

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On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 4:10 PM Shajeer M  wrote:

> Did you mean https://data.gov.in/sites/default/files/NDSAP.pdf (Page 10)?
>

Yes, have added more details to the new section Naveen created
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Data_sources#India_OpenData:_data.gov.in

Does this looks good, especially the attribution that we need to add? Just
read through the GODL license text and going from the GODL template on
Wikimedia Commons as well, looks like the license is definitely ODbL
compatible and good to use in OSM.


>> National hospital directory
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Health
>> Which is better way map this?
>> Maproulette Task ??
>>
>
As mentioned in the wiki page, this dataset like many others on data.gov.in
have quite a bit of quality issues and there certainly some gross location
errors though by and large the positions seem accurate to within 100m.

Maproulette looks like a good option.


>
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>> naveenpf
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Re: [Talk-in] National hospital directory data in ODGL

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This is great and a super useful dataset to have on OSM. As a first step we
should clearly establish that Indian OGDL is compatible with OSM to avoid
any conflicts over license issues. Has this already been established? We
can add a section to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Data_sources

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:36 PM Naveen Francis  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> National hospital directory
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Health
> Which is better way map this?
> Maproulette Task ??
>
> Thanks,
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[Talk-in] [BLR] Indiranagar tree mapping party on July 1

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The very active resident welfare associations in Indiranagar are planning
to do a tree audit very soon. Its a good time to help evolve some tools and
strategies for local volunteers to use OSM as an inventory for local trees.

We have had some success with mapping trees on OSM in the area and have
added over 2,000 trees but maintaining this data and checking for accuracy
is pretty hard since there is no other metadata associated with each tree.

This Sunday morning July 1, those interested can meet to discuss this
problem and also do some field trials of some new mapping techniques for
trees with a mobile app or fieldpapers.

Time: 8-11AM July 1
Place: Indiranagar water tank park - 10th main/1st cross
https://osm.org/go/yy4fMqot4--?m=

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Re: [Talk-in] Python Conference in Chennai - PySangamam

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You should definitely send a mail to the OSM India list: OpenStreetMap in
India 

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:05 AM Arun Ganesh  wrote:

> Hi Vijay, thank you for personally reaching out. I would have loved to
> participate but will be busy at that time with my wife's delivery. Have not
> been doing much with python lately, but if I get some ideas, i'll be sure
> to submit a poster. Best of luck for the event!
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Re: [Talk-in] Question regarding open-elevation map

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It should definitely be SRTM, there is no other open global DEM of that
quality.

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Deepthi Patric 
wrote:

> How does the elevation map work ? Does it work by extracting contours from
> SRTM ? Or does it use point-sampling tool ?
>
> Regards,
> Deepthi J
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Re: [Talk-in] Tagging VCBs

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I'm unable to exactly understand how the VCB works, also there seems to be
no other resources that describe this structure apart from the Kerala RD
website.

>From what I can gather, the VCB seems to operate like a small barrage where
shutters help raise the level of water. As a minor water diversion
structure, it seems appropriate to tag it as a waterway=weir and a
secondary tag like weir:type=vcb
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Re: [Talk-in] Navile basawesvara temple .

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Here you go :)  https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5613713602

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:04 AM, PC creation Presents 
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Re: [Talk-in] Extracting rivers as multipolygons

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On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Aruna S  wrote:

> Hey Arun,
>
> > Find all water polygon/relations that intersect with the buffered
> centerlines
> This is the part I was missing. What tags would I be looking for here? I
> see that for https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=16/24.4812/79.8781,
> the tags are
> natural=water
> type=multipolygon
> water=river
>
> Should this suffice for all river-cases?
>
>
You should look for both ways and multipolygons with any of these tags:

   - natural=water
   - waterway=riverbank
   - landuse=reservoir

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/yCQ
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Re: [Talk-in] Extracting rivers as multipolygons

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On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 7:56 PM, Aruna S  wrote:

> Ramya!
>
> Hi, ok. So, do you have ideas around extracting the relations I've sent as
> an example (https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=16/24.4812/79.8781) -
> for example, if I wanted to extract all relations that make up the Sutlej
> river, would I have to manually find each each relation ID and use the
> above query, or is there a simpler way to extract all the relations and
> multipolygons that compose this river?
>

Ideally, all riverbanks that are part of the river are also added into the
relevant river relation, but i think this mapping is currently incomplete.

A programmatic way to try to do this in turf could be:

   - Extract the way/centerline of the river needed
   - Convert the line into a polygon by creating a buffer around it (20m
   should work)
   - Find all water polygon/relations that intersect with the buffered
   centerlines




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Re: [Talk-in] Wikimedia maps - Internationalization

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There has been some discussion on the Wikimedia lists about the map tiles
showing the incorrect borders. Have made a demo which shows how this can be
fixed on the client side.

Indian langauge maps with Indian border:
https://jsfiddle.net/planemad/oeeLmg1j/1/
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[Talk-in] Mapping Himalayan Glaciers

[Arun Ganesh]

For earth day, we have a special mapping task created to map Himalayan
Glaciers in India. All the details and instructions are available here:
https://osm.earth/project/23

Thanks to Jinal for taking the lead to put this together! Feel free to
spread the word and join in.
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[Talk-in] Mapping India's national geological monuments

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Recently came across the GSI's list of national monuments and geological
marvels http://www.famindia.com/india/site_geological.htm which were
fascinating to go through. Little did I know about these wonderful sites
which have a lot of educational and tourism significance.

How many of these sites are on OSM, and how do we map them?
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Re: [Talk-in] Map of State of Maharashtra vs Map of Districts of Maharashtra from overpass turbo

[Arun Ganesh]

> My query is that I am ONLY seeing the state level boundaries. Why is the
> union not giving me the union of the state and district boundaries ?
>
>>
>>
It would help to know exactly the result you expect? Also maybe abetter
place to get help on overpass queries is the #osm irc channel


>
>> sorry: you are no newbie. I mistook you for ashim..
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Map of State of Maharashtra vs Map of Districts of Maharashtra from overpass turbo

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Have added Mumbai City, Mumbai Suburban, Thane and Raigad districts.

Source: Used the datameet districts
 shapes to import
into JOSM. From there cut out the missing boundaries that needed to be
added and manually added the new relations.

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:21 AM, Ashim Kapoor  wrote:

> Dear Walter,
>
> Okay and many thanks,
>
> Best,
> Ashim
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Walter Nordmann  wrote:
>
>> Hi  Ashim,
>>
>> use boundaries map and set "land" at the bottom line. works for display
>> *and* export.
>>
>> regards
>> walter
>> btw: i don't know any other source in the "osm world" doing the same  :)
>>
>> Am 01.02.2018 um 11:42 schrieb Ashim Kapoor:
>>
>> I have one more query. The map for Maharashtra extends into the ocean.
>> How can I make a map which does not extend to the ocean?
>>
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Re: [Talk-in] OSM Shapefile of Indian version of the borders according to the existing law

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Loads fine for me in qgis and also previews correctly
https://github.com/datameet/maps/blob/master/Country/india-osm.geojson so
pretty sure the file is valid.

Not sure what the issue could be. Can anyone else test?

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 7:34 PM, Ashim Kapoor <ashimkap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Arun,
>
> QGIS says invalid data source when I try to open india-osm.geojson in it.
> I chose  Layer > Add Layer > Add Vector Layer and then india-osm.geojson.
>
> Best,
> Ashim
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Ashim Kapoor <ashimkap...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Arun,
>>
>> Thank you and Best Regards,
>> Ashim
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 7:01 PM, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ashim, I just tried this out, there was a small bit of cleanup needed to
>>> remove some gaps.
>>>
>>> Detailed outline of India generated from OSM is available here:
>>> https://github.com/datameet/maps/tree/master/Country
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Re: [Talk-in] OSM Shapefile of Indian version of the borders according to the existing law

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Ashim, I just tried this out, there was a small bit of cleanup needed to
remove some gaps.

Detailed outline of India generated from OSM is available here:
https://github.com/datameet/maps/tree/master/Country
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Re: [Talk-in] OSM Shapefile of Indian version of the borders according to the existing law

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Ashim:

   - Export the India geojson from Walter's site for the land area
   https://wambachers-osm.website/boundaries/
   - Export the geojson of disputed areas claimed by India from overpass
   http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/voe
   - Open both in qgis and choose processing->toolbox->union to combine them

Walter, this is excellent for exporting the clipped boundaries! Any chance
one can also use the disputed areas^ to create a union on the site itself?


On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Ashim Kapoor  wrote:

> Dear Walter,
>
> The website alluded does not have a map compliant with the Indian law.
> Many thanks for your help.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ashim
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Walter Nordmann 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ashim,
>>
>> Zhe Boundaries Map service is online again. you may try it and check the
>> results.
>>
>> Regards
>> walter
>>
>> https:/wambachers-osm.wisite/boundaries
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Re: [Talk-in] OSM Shapefile of Indian version of the borders according to the existing law

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Like Sajjad said theres no straightforward way if you want ready to use
polygons. You will need to get a set of shapes from OSM and manually
merge/cut them to get the needed output.

   - India boundaries and claimed areas http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/voe
   - World coastline http://openstreetmapdata.com/data/coastlines

As you see in OSM the boundaries of countries extend into the territorial
waters and you may want to subtract it.
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Re: [Talk-in] OpenStreet india map for commercial use.

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On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Akshay Agrawal <
aksh...@india.tejasnetworks.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> I was using a tile scheme as shown in https://github.com/osm-in/
> openstreetmap.in for developing my web Application. But this only allows
> me to use for personal development. How can I use the same map for
> commercial purpose.
>
>
1) Signup for a Mapbox account to get an access token
https://www.mapbox.com/signup/
2) You can use the same tiles as https://github.com/osm-in/openstreetmap.in but
with your own access token. You can then use it for any purpose as you wish.
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Re: [Talk-in] How to get a bot account to upload translated strings for OSM?

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>
> As we can not get the user's OSM credentials as text in telegramBot,
> we need  a bot account to update OSM with  the tamil names to all the
> relevant english names that volunteers have translated.
>
> Is this process is fine?
>
>
This is such an awesome project and love how easy it is to translate! Such
an easy to use mobile interface is a great contribution to localize the
world map [1].

Before getting a bot account, it would be great to demonstrate that the
quality of translations sourced by this method is of sufficiently high
quality. That would greatly help build a case for an automated upload
system.


The name:* tags in OSM are for names in different languages, not for
> translations of names to different languages.


Paul, these are translations and not transliterations[2]. Is that what you
were asking?


[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Translation#OpenStreetMap_map_data
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Avoid_transliteration
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Re: [Talk-in] old_name tag for merged Associate State Banks

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Overpass has a useful function to query historic data using the data
parameter. It also supports a CSV output.

Putting them together, this query will give a CSV of the OSM id and names
of banks and atms: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sms . This should hopefully
match the spreadsheet and be useful for such tasks in future.

Theres also a super handy script to update data from a CSV to OSM
https://github.com/srividyacb/osm-name-translation. It was mainly created
to update translations, but this seems like a good use case as well. We
should just get consensus that we want to do this.



On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Revert the name changesets and start again?
>
> The new changes should then place the original name into old_name and
> introduce the new name.
>
> On 13-Oct-17 11:08 PM, Srihari Thalla wrote:
>
> Chetan, Is there any possibility to update them via script?
>
> I am not sure if Overpass API can download based on changes in changesets.
> If not, manually going through the spreadsheet would be the obvious choice.
>
> It would be better to write a script to query the histories of Bank
> amenity objects
> and import them into JOSM and update.
>
> Scripting would, of course, need approval from the community!
>
> Here are my changesets: OSMCha: https://goo.gl/V76HoH
>
> I bundled all the changes into two changesets. (There are 5 other singled
> out changesets too.)
>
> Manually :: Downloading the changeset -> going through each object history
> -> updating each object
>
> What do you say would be a good idea?
>
> On Fri 13 Oct, 2017, 17:03 Chetan H A,  wrote:
>
>> Srihari, makes sense. I wonder how to get back deleted old names and add
>> it in old_name tag in one go like you added?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Srihari Thalla 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Back in May 2017, we have updated the name tags of merged Associate
>>> State Banks from their old names (State Bank of xxx) to the new name,
>>> "State Bank of India".
>>>
>>> We have identified and tracked the entries in a spreadsheet [1]. I have
>>> updated many entries.
>>> However, I forgot to add the old_name tag with the old name (State Bank
>>> of xxx) and just updated the name tag to State Bank of India.
>>>
>>> I think it is good to have the old names in the old_name tag as people
>>> might still remember the banks with their old names.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Srihari
>>>
>>> [1] - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/
>>> 17VXVWQVF1rujmQiSQVrXiTOi2sRImh29I2JCGWCKaxc/edit#gid=1622201629
>>>
>>> talk-in Discussions
>>> [1] - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-
>>> April/002862.html
>>> [2] - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-
>>> May/002888.html
>>>
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[Talk-in] OSM 13th Birthday Celebrations

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The 13th anniversary of the OpenStreetMap project is this Sunday - 13th
August!

At Bengaluru tomorrow, Thursday 7pm, Mapbox will be hosting a special
GeoBLR meetup with Jennings Anderson who is doing his research on the
communities that map on OSM. We'll also have time to interact and meet
others mappers and geo enthusiasts in the city. And of course we will have
a special birthday cake! Please come, you can RSVP here [2].

Is anyone else planning an event?

[1]http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_13th_
Anniversary_Birthday_party
[2] https://www.meetup.com/GeoBLR/events/242245726/
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Re: [Talk-in] Geocoding Vikarabad District, Telangana

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If you want a OSM based geocoder, give
https://geocoder.opencagedata.com/demo a try. It looks like Vikarabad does
not have many villages mapped, so it probably won't give good results till
you improve OSM.

If using Google is giving bad results, its unlikely one can do much to
improve the results.





On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Sree harsha Thanneru 
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I have been working on "Farmer Distress Helpline" project in newly created
> Vikarabad District,Telangana called KisanMitra, and as part of it looking
> to map the primary data which we get from farmers, but also various
> secondary data like Rainfall, Ground Water level, cropping pattern this
> year, and many more to understand the Issues more deeply, & also to find
> inter linkages.
> For the same, I tried to geocode some of the village data we have within
> our system, but have not been successful. I have only tried a few addon's
> in google sheets(I know a very bad attempt!!) Anyone has a good idea of how
> to achieve the same in a better way with lesser errors ? Is there a list of
> geo-coded info of villages along with corresponding Mandals we could use if
> already available?
> Fairly new at mapping, so eagerly looking for guidance to get going !!
>
> Cheers,
> Harsha
> +919966089839 <+91%2099660%2089839>
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[Talk-in] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Notes on Mediawiki Hackathon 2017, Vienna, Austria

[Arun Ganesh]

Sharing a great roundup of the recent Mediawiki Hackathon in Vienna from
Tamil Wikimedian and OSM contributor Shrinivasan. There is so much overlap
between the Wikimedia and OpenStreetMap projects, we should have more
meetups to share ideas that grow open knowledge and data in India.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Shrinivasan T 
Date: Mon, May 22, 2017 at 7:03 AM
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Notes on Mediawiki Hackathon 2017, Vienna,
Austria
To: "Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia." <
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Cc: il...@freelists.org


Hi friends,

Got an opportunity to attend the mediawiki hackathon 2017 at vienna,
austria on May 19,21 and 22.

Here are my notes on the event.

Day 1 - https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2017/05/20/notes-
mediawiki-hackathon-2017-vienna-austria-day-1/

Day 2 - https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2017/05/21/notes-
mediawiki-hackathon-2017-day-2/

Day 3 - https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2017/05/22/notes-
mediawiki-hackathon-2017-day-3/


Our team created a connector for Lingue-Libre, a web based audio
recording tool. Now we can open browser, read a word loudly. It will
be recorded, uploaded to commons, linked to relevant wiktionary page.

Here is the code - https://github.com/wiese/Lingua-Libre/tree/python-backend

Here is a video demo in English -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8pwCC9MqGA=youtu.be

Will fix few issues and host it on a server soon. Till then try
installing in your local computers and try it out.



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Re: [Talk-in] how to store the gov agency which currently manages this infra

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Different agencies are responsible for different functions of an asset, but
usually should just be one organisation responsible for the operation and
maintenance of an asset.
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

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You mean individual train routes? Thats sounds incredibly hard to map and
maintain.
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

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The railway data on datameet can be used to create a background layer in
JOSM/iD as a reference. Here is one map
http://ruchikavn.github.io/indianrailwaymap/#10.68/17.0646/76.9679

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:14 AM, muzirian  wrote:

> Was fixing railway stations over? found some usable data :p
>
> https://github.com/datameet/railways/blob/master/stations.json
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Naveen Francis  wrote:
>
>> Yes. Not all national highways have wikipedia article
>> Master list of all highways are here
>> 
>> We have about 452 national highways.
>> In english wikipedia, we have only articles for 255 highways.
>> For old numbering we have about 48 articles, that has to be deleted
>> later.
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Re: [Talk-in] Identifying usage of railway tracks

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This would be really interesting for the railfans! JOSM would be best
suited to add tags to multiple segments at once. Rought workflow:

   - Download the railway segments in JOSM
   - Select any way and hit shift+w to select the continuous track
   - Add the correct `usage` or `service` tag based on
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:usage
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:service#Railways


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> As of this writing, there are 10052 Ways with railway=rail but without any
> usage=* / service=* tags[1].
>
> I have created a MapRoulette Challenge[2] with these Ways. I hope this
> Challenge would get IRFCA fans interested[3]. (Who knows about railways
> better than them? ;))
>
> But, I have not filled in the instructions on how to complete the
> Challenge. I don't think many IRFCA people know how to contribute to OSM,
> so I believe a detailed instruction manual would be necessary (like this
> [4]).
>
> Can someone help me with preparing it?
>
> [1] - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/o9o
> [2] - http://maproulette.org/map/2465
> [3] - http://www.openrailwaymap.org
> [4] - https://gist.github.com/SrihariThalla/ab896aecef7f50999aae1b2fd210c0
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Re: [Talk-in] license compatibility of various data sources for india

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Not sure if the new open Government data license covers all previous work:
https://data.gov.in/sites/default/files/Gazette_Notification_OGDL.pdf

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 5:21 PM, muzirian  wrote:

> Is all data from census in public domain?
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Paul Norman  wrote:
>
>> On 4/5/2017 9:50 PM, Srihari Thalla wrote:
>>
>>> But DataMeet has only 5 states :-/
>>>
>>> What about this repo - https://github.com/justinellio
>>> tmeyers/official_india_2011_village_boundary_lines
>>> Does it contain all of them?
>>>
>>
>> There doesn't seem to be any license there, so they're unusable without
>> that.
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian Districts

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>From what I remember, when Harshad imported the districts many years back
there was a problem with multipart districts. This caused quite a few
missing coastal districts. Nothing was deleted.

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 2:14 AM, muzirian  wrote:

> Also wasn't districts boundaries some imports?
> I have noticed problems with districts in Kerala, they still need much
> correction.
>
> Regards,
> Kelvin
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 11:10 PM, Naveen Francis 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> How we make sure that all districts are mapped ?
>> Is district boundaries are getting deleted ?
>> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/o8d
>>
>> Few districts in MH and GJ are missing
>>
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[Talk-in] Exploring recent edits in India

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Its been fun to see the recent changes on the map in Deccan India using
osmcha [1]. Ended up adding some detail in Aluva to help out muzirian :)

[1]
http://osmcha.mapbox.com/?modify__gte=0=65.04829732015679%2C7.823251374735577%2C88.56093988187973%2C19.856480543913648_suspect=False_whitelisted=All=All
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

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Challenge 3 and 4 could be quite interesting to get other communities
interested in OSM.

For Wikidata matching, we can share the challenge with the Wikimedia India
chapter. Adding these tags also help make maps on Wikipedia. See Naveens'
diary http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/naveenpf/diary/40515

For any railway mapping we can spread the word on IRFCA, which would get
the railfans really excited.

Srihari, if you can make the challenges, I could help spread the word. We
could also do mapping sprints to map them together with others to knock it
off.
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Re: [Talk-in] Adding wikidata tag for Indian districts

[Arun Ganesh]

Naveen this is amazing. Is there some documentation on Wikipedia on how one
tags a feature on OSM and then add the map on the wiki? Are features
immediately updated from OSM or does it take some time?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Naveen Francis  wrote:

> One more example
>
> CIAL on OSM map [right]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochin_International_Airport#Construction
>
> On 10 February 2017 at 08:08, Naveen Francis  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> After adding wikidata tags in OSM, now we can display the maps in
>> Wikipedia.
>>
>> Example for Kerala districts:-
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_districts_in_India#Kerala_.28KL.29
>>
>>
>> First five primary NHs:-
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Highways_in_I
>> ndia_by_highway_number
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Highway_1_(India) [Top right
>> corner.]
>>
>> Thanks,
>> naveenpf
>>
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Re: [Talk-in] GSoC Idea -- Openstreetmap Indic Localization helper tool

[Arun Ganesh]

Great idea Srikanth, this is definitely much needed. Maybe you can share
the idea on the talk list as well for feedback.

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I wanted to suggest an idea to build a tool which could help in improving
> the ease of localization of map data for openstreetmap. Currently, OSM
> localisations are done manually by volunteer editors manually mostly. Some
> editors have built custom tools to bulk upload localizations, but there is
> no easy tool which could be easily used to localize manually / verify
> machine-assisted localizations to improve the speed of localization in OSM
> map data.
>
> Nomino[1] is a tool available to perform localization, but the tool is
> unmaintained, doesnt offer suggestions. With Wikidata and google translate
> API's we can reasonably ensure correctness of automated translation if they
> match, when they dont match, it still provides reasonably good suggestions,
> which users can just pick. Since we are dealing with names of places,
> copyright issues dont arise. A tool, like Nomino, with suggestions from
> Wikidata, Google translate integrating with OSM APIs would be of great
> utility in increasing the pace of localizations, while ensuring that such
> localizations are manually verified by user and not purely machine
> translated.
>
> Let me know if this is acceptable GSoC idea, which students can work. I
> can offer any help in improving this idea / project. Thanks.
>
> [1] http://nomino.openstreetmap.fr/
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Map of InternetShutdowns in India - Need Help!

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Sarath, it looks like mapbox-gl-boundaries plugin is correcting the
boundaries as expected. Can you describe exactly on which part of the
boundary you are seeing an issue?

On the first load it takes a second for the extended boundaries to show up,
but should be fine after that.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Sajjad Anwar  wrote:

> Looks like a blip - I can see the website now.
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Sajjad Anwar  wrote:
> > Hey Sarath -
> >
> > Looks like the website is down? Could you post a screenshot of the
> > boundary mismatches you are seeing? Happy to help. (I work at Mapbox)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sajjad
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Sarath M S  wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> We just launched a website[1] to keep track of the increasing incidents
> >> of Internet Shutdowns in India. So far we have collected information
> >> about 62 such incidents across India. You can read more about the issue
> >> on the site[2].
> >>
> >> Apart from the sharing the work and inviting contributions[3], I am
> >> writing this to seek help in fixing the problem with India's borders
> >> with Pakistan and China showing up in a way that the Government of India
> >> doesn't like. Within a few hours of launching the site, we have already
> >> received a mail complaining about this.
> >>
> >> What we tried:
> >>
> >> * We used the mapbox-gl-boundaries[4] library to switch to the claimed
> >> boundaries. The map styles differ from the example used in the README.md
> >> file.
> >>
> >> * A couple of friends from Mapbox helped out with changing the polygons
> >> on the state. We also tried using the district and state polygons from
> >> datameet.
> >>
> >> Is there a known fix to this? What else can be done?
> >>
> >>  [1] http://internetshutdows.in
> >>  [2] http://internetshutdowns.in/about
> >>  [3] https://gitlab.com/sflcin/internetshutdowns/tree/webapp
> >>  [4] https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-boundaries
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Sarath
> >> Technologist, SFLC.in
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[Talk-in] [BLR] Volunteers needed for mapping camp for residents of Indiranagar

[Arun Ganesh]

The citizen of the Indiranagar RWA have requested help to teach them how to
map their locality to document the trees, footpaths, landuse and other
amenities to help them take action against illegal felling of trees and
unauthorized commercialization of the neighborhood.

Are there any mappers from Bengaluru interested to do this on one of the
weekends? Also ideas on how to structure this?

This would be a great model that can help empower the citizens of any other
RWA or citizen group in any other part of the country.
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Re: [Talk-in] OSM server with latest code

[Arun Ganesh]

Ok, it looks like the .mml defines the data layers, and the .mss files have
the style.

Prasanna, you would need to make the changes borders data in the .mml to
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/project.mml#L1314-L1331
to read the table with the new borders.

The styles themselves seem to be defined in
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/admin.mss
but this part does not need any change.

>From the instructions
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/INSTALL.md
it looks like you would need to compile the mml and mss into the mapnik xml
using kosmitik. Have never tried this before, maybe someone else can help?

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:05 AM, VAMO Systems <p...@vamosys.com> wrote:

> Hi Arun
>
> I believe this is equivalent style file in this latest nodejs based
> mapnik/kosmtik tile server.
>
> Best Regards,
> Prasanna K
> Director - Product Engineering
> VAMO Systems Private Limited <http://vamosys.com>
> 2nd Floor, New No 21/Old No 8,
> 86th street, Ashok Nagar
> Chennai, TamilNadu, India,600083
> Mobile: +91-9840898818 <098408%2098818>
> Email: p...@vamosys.com
> twitter: @gps_vamosystems
> Skype: pkram76
>
>
> On 11 January 2017 at 01:22, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there a Mapnik style file you can share? We should be able to migrate
>> the instructions from http://xsce.org/wiki/generating_map_tiles for the
>> latest version if the format has not changed too much.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:10 AM, VAMO Systems <p...@vamosys.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>>  I have implemented OSM server with latest codebase  using steps
>>> mentioned in this link
>>> https://ircama.github.io/osm-carto-tutorials/kosmtik-ubuntu-setup/
>>>
>>> Here the output
>>> http://205.147.102.214:6789/openstreetmap-carto/#13/13/80
>>>
>>> Now I don't have any clue to how to correct the borders. Any help will
>>> be highly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Prasanna K
>>>
>>> Note:  Earlier I used the steps mentioned in this link
>>> http://xsce.org/wiki/generating_map_tiles to correct the borders.
>>>
>>>
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[Talk-in] Mapping party using street photos at Mapbox today #osmgeoweek

[Arun Ganesh]

Today evening at Mapbox, we're hosting a mapping party to improve the
OpenStreetMap data using the street photographs crowdsourced using Mapillary
.
We will mostly concentrate on Bengaluru and surrounding areas, but feel
free to take up any other location of interest.

Top contributor to OSM wins a car or bicycle phone mount of choice!

You can also participate remotely, just send across your OSM username and
we can see who made the most improvements to the map during that time :)

Mapping guide: https://www.mapbox.com/blog/get-started-mapillary/

RSVP https://www.facebook.com/events/696828340493573/
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Re: [Talk-in] Automating OSM translation into Indic languages

[Arun Ganesh]

This is amazing Srikanth! Can you also share statistics of how many did not
match, maybe it could be used to flag potentially incorrect translations on
Wikidata.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:42 AM, manoj k 
wrote:

> Great. How can i test for malayalam ?
>
> Manoj.K/മനോജ്.കെ
> www.manojkmohan.com
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan 
> wrote:
>
>> After loading the yet to be translated nodes into google sheets, I used
>> the =GOOGLETRANSLATE() function to get google translations of place names
>> and also queried wikidata to get wikidata translations. When both these
>> matched, I extracted a list and uploaded through a script.[1] I also
>> verified the changesets[2] that were created through script and did not
>> find any issues.
>>
>> [1] https://gist.github.com/srikanthlogic/5148571367bb829b03
>> c2170af59880c4
>> [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SrikanthLogic/history
>>
>>
>> On 6 October 2016 at 13:29, Srikanth Lakshmanan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 7 April 2015 at 11:32, Sajjad Anwar  wrote:
>>>
 Aruna, we can use the Wikidata to get a first pass of the translation
 and then present the spreadsheet view for someone to eyeball and add
 missing?

>>>
>>> I got a spreadsheet view[0] to this using the OverpassToGoogleSheets
>>> appscript[1] (which I plan to make a complete add-on) to give spreadsheet
>>> view. Once the ability to generate spreadsheet or any language / area
>>> combination is complete, use the sheet to build a HTML microtask UI where
>>> user can translate (with a small map view to give context). Eventually, we
>>> could build something envisioned at Map Translation Interface[3].
>>>
>>> [0] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1imONog35BeDTEuwR
>>> PgrRRDAF7pvbSHs1Ryv-18yfOaQ/edit#gid=201371839
>>> [1] https://github.com/srikanthlogic/tangrams-indic/blob/gh-page
>>> s/Translator-Tools/appscript/OverpassToGoogleSheets.gs
>>> [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Translation_Interface
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>> Srikanth.L
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Large number of damaging edits in India

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On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 11:17 PM, I Chengappa  wrote:

> Some of these editors have been active again. While most of their edits
> seem to be useful, some of the data is wrong, and some edits have been
> destructive. They do not respond to changeset comments. The areas of
> activity include Mysore and Bangalore cities (I've not checked any others).
> It would be useful if these areas could be monitored.
>
>
Made a changeset review list to keep a watch on the whole group, please add
to it if someone is missing:

https://osmcha.mapbox.com/?usernames=Hemanth+kumar+goli%2CAvinashk%2CJitesh+Khanna%2Cchaitanyareddy%2CGIS+EXICUITIVE%2Cpujarinee%2CASHISH+R+SINGH%2CAruna+V%2CChaithra123%2CEkta+Ranjan%2Cdrishya%2Cchaitra+v+nadig%2Cg+sumithra%2C+Sridhar+s+k_suspect=False_whitelisted=True=False=False
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Re: [Talk-in] Export Particular area

[Arun Ganesh]

Akshay, without seeing some code or documentation of what you are trying to
do, it will be very difficult for someone to help you.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 9:09 PM, Devdatta Tengshe 
wrote:

> What exactly are you trying to do? Is this a Desktop/Mobile App? or a Web
> App?
>
> If it's the later, then have a look at: https://switch2osm.org/
>
> If it's the former, then you'll have to write some code to read and parse
> the .osm file, which is an XML file.
>
> Regards,
> Devdatta
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:10 AM, akshay sharma 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Can I customize the map as privately, that means only in my application
>> that area will display with customization which i will do, because of
>> security reason I want to publish the custom map as privately Is it
>> possible then please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks & Regards
>> akshay Sharma
>>
>> On 12 October 2016 at 13:01, akshay sharma 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> After download the osm data. How i can use in my application.
>>>
>>> On 12 October 2016 at 09:05, Devdatta Tengshe 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 There are multiple ways of extracting Data from the OSM Database, and
 these have been described here:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Downloading_data

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Export

 However, I find the following site to be the easiest way to download
 data for any custom shape:
 http://extract.bbbike.org/

 Regards,
 Devdatta

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> Hi,
> I am using openstreetmap in my application.I want to know how I can
> extract particular area from your map and show that area only in my
> application. Please help me.
> thanks & Regads
> Akshay Sharma
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Re: [Talk-in] Large number of damaging edits in India

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Thanks everyone for helping compile the list of usernames and commenting on
the changesets. Here it is:
https://gist.github.com/planemad/67d9f427c66d41f24262689ce8bba89e

The data working group (woodpeck_repair) has cleaned up the edits of 3
users but the left were left as it is. Attempting to use the revert scripts
on them were partially successful but did not completely clean the edits.
The scripts are not very well documented and it is unclear how they should
be used to make a clean revert of all the user's edits. If anyone has any
knowledge on using the perl scripts please share.

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> There has been a sudden burst of editing activity in Bangalore, Mumbai and
> Jabalpur and many important roads have gone missing and replaced with
> fictional data. It looks like some kind of classroom activity but at the
> moment its unclear whats going on.
>
> Will need some help to track down the usernames that have created the bad
> data and revert them to its previous state. We still dont have good tools
> to detect and undo such edit and there is a bit of manual work involved.
>
> - Use OSM changeset analyzer to filter and mark the bad edits as harmful
> [1]
> - Once we have a list of usernames, I can run the revert-scripts to undo
> their changes [2]
> - Send a changeset message to each of these users to enquire what happened
> and provide help to contribute [3]
>
> If you have the team please review and mark the harmful ones, this will be
> a huge help!
>
> [1] https://osmcha.mapbox.com/?delete__gte=1__
> icontains=creat=63%2C7%2C103%2C33_suspect=False&
> is_whitelisted=True=False=False
> [2] https://github.com/woodpeck/osm-revert-scripts
> [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/42605833
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Publisher of maps in Indian Language

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There used to be a test server which would render any language tag on the
fly, but it seems to be down http://mlm.jochentopf.com

I did some experiments with doing attempting something similiar:
http://openstreetmap.in/demo/

and documented here:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/PlaneMad/diary/38176

The process for ^ now is much simpler thanks to some improvements in the
Mapbox GL libraries, the only big blocker is that GL still does not support
complex text shaping which breaks the proper rendering of Indic languages
https://github.com/osm-in/openstreetmap.in/issues/14#issuecomment-193619651

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Onkar Shinde 
wrote:

> OsmAnd app has very easy option to switch map language. The data source is
> open street map. So if you are not satisfied with the quality of source
> then the app may not satisfy your requirement.
>
> Cheers,
> Onkar
>
> On Sat 17 Sep, 2016 21:55 Thejesh GN,  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Do you know any provider who publishes digital maps in Indian language?
>> App, API, website etc
>>
>> - I know Google has not so great hindi version.
>>
>> - OSM needs lots of work[1]
>>
>> - Bhuwan has web UI in tamil and telugu but not the actual map content
>>
>> - SoI??
>> - MapMyIndia??
>>
>> - Any one else.
>>
>> [1] https://thejeshgn.com/projects/state-of-indian-
>> languages-openstreetmap/
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[Talk-in] [BLR] Software Freedom Day meet at CIS Bengaluru today

[Arun Ganesh]

On the occasion of software freedom day today to promote free culture in
computing, a few of us including folks from the local Wikimedia community
are meeting the offices at CIS at Domlur at 3pm. Do join in if you are
around. Details:

http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2016/India/Bangalore/CIS
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Re: [Talk-in] India - Bangladesh enclaves/exclaves on OSM

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Wow, thats the first time I'm seeing a boundary agreement document and its
fascinating to read. And pretty impressive from the MEA, thanks for sharing.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Devdatta Tengshe 
wrote:

> Here is a more readable document from the MEA: https://www.mea.gov.in/
> Uploads/PublicationDocs/24529_LBA_MEA_Booklet_final.pdf
>
> Regards,
> Devdatta
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Devdatta Tengshe 
> wrote:
>
>> You can get the list of enclaves in the actual 1974 agrement which was
>> signed, and is mentioned in the 119th Amendment of the Constitution.
>>
>> You can get more details here: http://www.prsindia.org/
>> billtrack/the-constitution-119th-amendment-bill-2013-3049/
>>
>> The actual list is present pg 5 onward in this pdf:
>> http://www.prsindia.org/uploads/media/Constitution%2011
>> 9/Constitution%20%28119th%29%20Bill,%202013.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Devdatta
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Jinal Foflia 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> Came across this blog [1] on the enclaves and exclaves issue related to
>>> India - Bangladesh. Do we have any official document about the swap of
>>> enclaves between Bangladesh and India? Also the data on OpenStreetMap says
>>> that we have 2 remaining exclaves, was there a complete swap of
>>> enclaves/exclaves? How should the data be updated on OSM?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] - http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2016/08/india-bang
>>> ladesh-enclaves.html
>>>
>>> Some more articles (These are articles from different sources)
>>>
>>> - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/08/
>>> 01/say-goodbye-to-the-weirdest-border-dispute-in-the-world/?tid=a_inl
>>> - http://zeenews.india.com/news/west-bengal/celebrations-erupt
>>> -in-cooch-behar-after-india-bangladesh-ratify-lba_1608611.html
>>> - http://zeenews.india.com/tags/land-boundary-agreement.html
>>> - http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/indiabangladesh-land-b
>>> oundary-agreement-security-a-prime-concern-after-enclaves-ex
>>> change/article7491756.ece
>>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Classification of Indian places

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On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Devdatta Tengshe 
wrote:

> This link gives the criteria:
>
> http://censusindia.gov.in/2011-prov-results/paper2/data_
> files/kerala/13-concept-34.pdf
>
> For a town, the population criteria is quite small. To be called a town,
> it should meet all the following criteria:
> 1)Population exceeds 5,000
> 2)At least 75% of male working population is employed outside the
> agricultural sector
> 3)Minimum population density of 400 persons per km
>
>
>
Thanks Devdatta. It makes sense to have the place classification follow
some kind of mapping to Census classification for consistency. Population
should not be used as the only defining property to classify a place. We
already have the `population` tag to record this value.
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Re: [Talk-in] Ward map Bhopal

[Arun Ganesh]

Would also suggest mailing the datameet group if they have pointers on how
this could be released under an open license. Its definitely going to be a
bit of work doing it the right way.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Nice diary entry in Hindi. Have responded there https://www.
> openstreetmap.org/user/pratikyadav/diary/39245
>
> If you can somehow get permission in written form, this would be good to
> import. We have not managed it for any city in India so far and its an
> utter shame.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Pratik Yadav <pratik.yadav@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> http://www.bhopalmunicipal.com/city-information/informative-map.html
>> Published by Bhopal Municipal Corporation, the^ map shows all admin-wards.
>>
>> The information is not yet in OSM and could be a good addition.
>> I have send a mail to BMC to get information about the licence.
>>
>> --
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>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Ward map Bhopal

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Nice diary entry in Hindi. Have responded there
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pratikyadav/diary/39245

If you can somehow get permission in written form, this would be good to
import. We have not managed it for any city in India so far and its an
utter shame.



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> Hi all,
>
> http://www.bhopalmunicipal.com/city-information/informative-map.html
> Published by Bhopal Municipal Corporation, the^ map shows all admin-wards.
>
> The information is not yet in OSM and could be a good addition.
> I have send a mail to BMC to get information about the licence.
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[Talk-in] List of all Airport Reference points in India

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Found this AAI page with a list of proposed, current and disused civil
aerodromes. http://www.dgca.nic.in/Arp2.html

It must be really outdated, as it mentions Kochi Aiport as proposed, which
was constructed in 1999. But should be good to check the location of others.

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Re: [Talk-in] Multilingual name tagging convention in India

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>
> So, in some cases name:en doesn't seem to exist (or maybe I'm wrong?)
>
>
 Certainly possible, there have been cases where a new contributor has
replaced the English name in the `name` tag with the localized name, and
others where the mapper seemed to have contributed directly in the local
language with no English names.

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Re: [Talk-in] National Highway relations are unacceptably huuuuge!

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This is looking good to me. It would be great to have a diary post on
tools/workflow to do this. Have always found handling and modifying these
relations painful.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Amaroussi (OpenStreetMap) <map...@minoa.li>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have set up NH765 as a prototype for the reformed relations - NH765 is a
> small route where it should be easy to fine tune the idea before full-scale
> conversion.
>
> The base route (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3871741) would
> only contain sub-relations with for each State that it passes through with
> appropriate role names (as the E-route system already does).
>
> The sub-relations, for Telangana (
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5826946) and Andhra Pradesh (
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5826980) in our case, would
> contain appropriately ordered ways, with the main route on top and links
> (slip roads) at the bottom.
>
> I envisage that one relation for each state should be sufficient for the
> time being.
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Re: [Talk-in] National Highway relations are unacceptably huuuuge!

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Support this, right now NH members are part of two relations each, the
state and national level one. Given that many highways are being upgraded
and byapss sections are being added, this is twice as hard to maintain.

What is the process to change them like the European model?

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Amaroussi (OpenStreetMap) <map...@minoa.li>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am currently proof-reading the National and State Highway relations in
> Hyderabad and Telangana.
>
> However, while I note that there are state-level National Highway
> relations (such as https://openstreetmap.org/relation/5803164 for the
> NH44 in Telangana), the core National Highway relations (such as
> https://openstreetmap.org/relation/3189954 for NH44) are ridiculously
> huge with more than 3,000 members, which causes internet browser to slow
> down. It is also six times longer than Greece’s main national road, the EO1.
>
> Right now, the main OpenStreetMap site is refusing to load the main NH44
> relation because they are so huge (hence the error message “Sorry, the data
> for the relation with the id 3189954, took too long to retrieve.”), and
> editing them is also slowing down JOSM significantly. I am proposing that
> the core National Highway relations should adopt a system similar to the
> E-Road network (for example,
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2092611), where it references the
> state-level relations instead of every way. Another benefit of such a
> system is that international users can exclude the disputed sections where
> it is legal to show India in its widely-recognised outline.
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Re: [Talk-in] Multilingual name tagging convention in India

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Some time back, I did some quick research on how we officially recorded the
names of places in India, might be an interesting read:
https://gist.github.com/planemad/decdf608776726de1007

Related projects that could help expand language coverage in India is
attempting latin to indic language and cross indic language
transliterations:
- https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime/tree/master/rules
- http://libindic.org

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Its surprising we all agree that using the latin script as default for
> local names throughout the country is most usable. Wish we had more
> perspectives from rural users of the map, but I guess at the moment we have
> not reached there.
>
> This issue would come up again if that happens and local scripts are used
> for the default over latin, something similar is already happening in
> Bangladesh http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/23.1262/89.1843
>
> For now, I guess lets freeze on the latin alphabet as default for all
> urban areas of the map. To sum up:
>
> - The default `name` of a feature is that name and spelling that is
> recognized by the local public, preferably recorded in the latin script for
> data consistency throughout the country. Use a localized script only if
> there is no recognized latin spelling for the name
> - The localized spellings and scripts should be added in the corresponding
> `name:lang` tags
> - Due to complications arising over the ordering of multiple languages and
> scripts in a label, no `name` tag should contain more than one variation of
> the name, use a different tag for each variation
>
> If no major corrections, I can add it to the wiki this week and we can
> make changes there.
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Moved some old instructions for setting up a tileserver that Johnson
>> wrote to https://github.com/osm-in/tileserver
>>
>> Anyone interested in setting up a custom tileserver with Indic language
>> rendering, please feel free to expand.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:16 AM, Chetan H A <chetanh...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I totally agree to follow current convention we have now. Multilingual
>>> names can't be supported in India. We have 22 official languages in India
>>> and If every language names were added with English names will clutter the
>>> map. It's good to add separately using " name:lang=* " tag.
>>> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.in/search?q=name%3A
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Chethan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not having map tiles available for the various languages is definitely
>>>> a problem, which motivates one to tag in such a way just so that the local
>>>> name is visible. Efforts to create an Indic language tileserver have not
>>>> really taken off, and probably this is what we should reconsider with more
>>>> seriousness.
>>>>
>>>> Experiments so far:
>>>> - http://openstreetmap.in/demo.html
>>>> <http://openstreetmap.in/demo.html#9.99/13.9372/75.6525> which is a
>>>> little futuristic but very flexible for as many languages as possible. One
>>>> blocker is that complex text shaping to render Indic scripts correctly is
>>>> unknown when this will happen
>>>> https://github.com/osm-in/openstreetmap.in/issues/14#issuecomment-193619651
>>>> - http://mlm.jochentopf.com looks like a good experiment worth
>>>> replicating, but there are not much details on how it was done
>>>> - http://yogiks.github.io/osm-kn/map/ World Kannada map made by
>>>> Yogesh. At the moment probably the most practical approach.
>>>>
>>>> If we have a regularly updated working demo of Indic language tiles for
>>>> the major languages, this could better demonstrate the practical
>>>> application of using the name tags correctly. Anyone have other experiments
>>>> to share?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Yogesh K S <yog...@itforchange.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I too agree with keeping the current convention of name tags for
>>>>> multilingual names. Belgium has just two languages and in context of our
>>>>> regional languages, first mapper rule can create conflicts as Arun
>>>>> indicated previously. Perhaps we should try to improve the current state 
>>>>> of
>>>

Re: [Talk-in] Multilingual name tagging convention in India

[Arun Ganesh]

Moved some old instructions for setting up a tileserver that Johnson wrote
to https://github.com/osm-in/tileserver

Anyone interested in setting up a custom tileserver with Indic language
rendering, please feel free to expand.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:16 AM, Chetan H A <chetanh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I totally agree to follow current convention we have now. Multilingual
> names can't be supported in India. We have 22 official languages in India
> and If every language names were added with English names will clutter the
> map. It's good to add separately using " name:lang=* " tag.
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.in/search?q=name%3A
>
> Best,
> Chethan
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Not having map tiles available for the various languages is definitely a
>> problem, which motivates one to tag in such a way just so that the local
>> name is visible. Efforts to create an Indic language tileserver have not
>> really taken off, and probably this is what we should reconsider with more
>> seriousness.
>>
>> Experiments so far:
>> - http://openstreetmap.in/demo.html
>> <http://openstreetmap.in/demo.html#9.99/13.9372/75.6525> which is a
>> little futuristic but very flexible for as many languages as possible. One
>> blocker is that complex text shaping to render Indic scripts correctly is
>> unknown when this will happen
>> https://github.com/osm-in/openstreetmap.in/issues/14#issuecomment-193619651
>> - http://mlm.jochentopf.com looks like a good experiment worth
>> replicating, but there are not much details on how it was done
>> - http://yogiks.github.io/osm-kn/map/ World Kannada map made by Yogesh.
>> At the moment probably the most practical approach.
>>
>> If we have a regularly updated working demo of Indic language tiles for
>> the major languages, this could better demonstrate the practical
>> application of using the name tags correctly. Anyone have other experiments
>> to share?
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Yogesh K S <yog...@itforchange.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I too agree with keeping the current convention of name tags for
>>> multilingual names. Belgium has just two languages and in context of our
>>> regional languages, first mapper rule can create conflicts as Arun
>>> indicated previously. Perhaps we should try to improve the current state of
>>> multilingual names in India -
>>> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.in/search?q=name%3A
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> yogi
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/05/2016 06:19 PM, I Chengappa wrote:
>>>
>>> It would help greatly if mappers could see names in other languages on a
>>> rendered map. I see that the demo, for instance at
>>> http://openstreetmap.in/demo.html#9.99/13.9372/75.6525 is still just a
>>> demo.
>>>
>>> On 5 July 2016 at 07:19, Srravya C <srravy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Found a little more about this topic in a discussion here
>>>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_India#Use_English_for_the_.22name.22_tag>.
>>>> We could put the details about multilingual naming for India in this
>>>> page <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multilingual_names>. So that
>>>> anybody referring to this page in the future for naming convention, will
>>>> get an idea about existing conventions followed for India.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Thejesh GN < <i...@thejeshgn.com>
>>>> i...@thejeshgn.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think the existing convention works really well. Use name tag for
>>>>> latin script and specific language tag for that language names. I think
>>>>> this makes it easy to work and also divide work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 4, 2016 11:34 PM, "Arun Ganesh" <arun.plane...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bringing this up since there are recent edits adding multilingual
>>>>>> labels to the `name` tag [1][2].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The current convention that has been followed is to use `name` for
>>>>>> the local name in latin script. The reasoning if I remember was two fold:
>>>>>> - English being one of the official languages, latin script is widely
>>>>>> used in cities and in pub

Re: [Talk-in] Multilingual name tagging convention in India

[Arun Ganesh]

Not having map tiles available for the various languages is definitely a
problem, which motivates one to tag in such a way just so that the local
name is visible. Efforts to create an Indic language tileserver have not
really taken off, and probably this is what we should reconsider with more
seriousness.

Experiments so far:
- http://openstreetmap.in/demo.html
<http://openstreetmap.in/demo.html#9.99/13.9372/75.6525> which is a little
futuristic but very flexible for as many languages as possible. One blocker
is that complex text shaping to render Indic scripts correctly is unknown
when this will happen
https://github.com/osm-in/openstreetmap.in/issues/14#issuecomment-193619651
- http://mlm.jochentopf.com looks like a good experiment worth replicating,
but there are not much details on how it was done
- http://yogiks.github.io/osm-kn/map/ World Kannada map made by Yogesh. At
the moment probably the most practical approach.

If we have a regularly updated working demo of Indic language tiles for the
major languages, this could better demonstrate the practical application of
using the name tags correctly. Anyone have other experiments to share?

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Yogesh K S <yog...@itforchange.net> wrote:

> I too agree with keeping the current convention of name tags for
> multilingual names. Belgium has just two languages and in context of our
> regional languages, first mapper rule can create conflicts as Arun
> indicated previously. Perhaps we should try to improve the current state of
> multilingual names in India -
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.in/search?q=name%3A
>
> cheers,
> yogi
>
>
> On 07/05/2016 06:19 PM, I Chengappa wrote:
>
> It would help greatly if mappers could see names in other languages on a
> rendered map. I see that the demo, for instance at
> http://openstreetmap.in/demo.html#9.99/13.9372/75.6525 is still just a
> demo.
>
> On 5 July 2016 at 07:19, Srravya C <srravy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Found a little more about this topic in a discussion here
>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_India#Use_English_for_the_.22name.22_tag>.
>> We could put the details about multilingual naming for India in this page
>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multilingual_names>. So that anybody
>> referring to this page in the future for naming convention, will get an
>> idea about existing conventions followed for India.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Thejesh GN < <i...@thejeshgn.com>
>> i...@thejeshgn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the existing convention works really well. Use name tag for
>>> latin script and specific language tag for that language names. I think
>>> this makes it easy to work and also divide work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 4, 2016 11:34 PM, "Arun Ganesh" <arun.plane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bringing this up since there are recent edits adding multilingual
>>>> labels to the `name` tag [1][2].
>>>>
>>>> The current convention that has been followed is to use `name` for the
>>>> local name in latin script. The reasoning if I remember was two fold:
>>>> - English being one of the official languages, latin script is widely
>>>> used in cities and in public signages in smaller towns. Only in villages it
>>>> is uncommon.
>>>> - Keeping the tagging convention simple[3], that could be used
>>>> throughout the country in a standard way
>>>>
>>>> Keeping just one name in each tag, we have been able to avoid issues
>>>> like the first mapper rule[4] that could cause unnecessary regional
>>>> conflicts over ordering of scripts like in Belgium (and they have just two
>>>> languages).
>>>>
>>>> Since we can add the regional names in their own name:lang tag, no data
>>>> is ultimately lost, and it is upto the data consumer to choose which
>>>> language to support for the user.
>>>>
>>>> Would be great to hear positives and negatives of this approach and how
>>>> it benefits the public Is it time to revise this convention to be more
>>>> regional rather than national?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/40472998
>>>> [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/40479683
>>>> [3]
>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_India#Naming_in_different_scripts_and_languages
>>>>
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[Talk-in] State of the Map Asia 2016 Call for Presentations

[Arun Ganesh]

Crossposting from talk-ph, if you have ideas for a talk sharing your story
of using OSM data  in India, you should definitely submit a proposal:

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Dear everyone,

The State of the Map Asia 2016 team is hard at work to bring to you the
best presentations about OpenStreetMap and resilience in Asia and the rest
of the world. We couldn’t do that without your help! So we are inviting you
to submit proposals for 20-minute talks, 5-minute lightning talks, and
90-minute workshops that will provide value to conference attendees.

If you are interested in presenting, please refer to the following
conference web page for instructions: http://stateofthemap.asia/program

Note that the deadline for submission is on July 31.

We are all excited to see what you have in store for us!


Eugene Villar
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[Talk-in] Multilingual name tagging convention in India

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Bringing this up since there are recent edits adding multilingual labels to
the `name` tag [1][2].

The current convention that has been followed is to use `name` for the
local name in latin script. The reasoning if I remember was two fold:
- English being one of the official languages, latin script is widely used
in cities and in public signages in smaller towns. Only in villages it is
uncommon.
- Keeping the tagging convention simple[3], that could be used throughout
the country in a standard way

Keeping just one name in each tag, we have been able to avoid issues like
the first mapper rule[4] that could cause unnecessary regional conflicts
over ordering of scripts like in Belgium (and they have just two languages).

Since we can add the regional names in their own name:lang tag, no data is
ultimately lost, and it is upto the data consumer to choose which language
to support for the user.

Would be great to hear positives and negatives of this approach and how it
benefits the public Is it time to revise this convention to be more
regional rather than national?


[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/40472998
[2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/40479683
[3]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_India#Naming_in_different_scripts_and_languages

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[Talk-in] Rann of Kutch wetlands

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Some interesting discussion on mapping the mudflats of the Rann in the
diary: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Alan/diary/38776

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[Talk-in] [BLR] Indiranagar tree planting and mapping on world environment day

[Arun Ganesh]

Hey everyone, there is a massive tree planting drive in Indiranagar
tomorrow for world environment day. More than 100 saplings are going to be
planted at various locations at 1st stage, 2nd stage, BM Kaval and Defence
Colony.

This is being organized by the RWAs with the help of the MLA, and as part
of the efforts we are also going to document the locations of the trees on
OpenStreetMap.

Those interested will be meeting at the cornerstone park opposite KFC from
9AM. Ask the organizers for me or the mapping team.

Details: https://www.facebook.com/events/478058269058618/

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Re: [Talk-us] Restoring bus routes in Portland

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> I've fixed all of the relations that had their contents replaced wholesale
> by restoring to the last known good version and then adjusting as necessary
> to match the current data.  The one change to my method was to download all
> of the relation members after I load the prior version from a .osm XML
> file.  That way if any of the relation members have since been deleted they
> will be filtered out by JOSM when resolving the conflict with the existing
> relation.
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
>
Peter and everyone else, thank you for the help and restoring the
relations. The workflow to restore the relations has been captured in the
tracker [1]. As followup i'm going to write a diary post about the incident
for a broader discussion on what might have caused the issue and how it can
be avoided in future.

This is also a good experience for others to learn from on using complex
workflows while restoring relations. Will notify on list when the diary
post is up.

[1] https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/185#issuecomment-220950169


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[Talk-us] Restoring bus routes in Portland

[Arun Ganesh]

Requesting for help from those experienced with managing relations. We have
a group of changesets that caused a breakage in multiple route relations in
Portland.

The issue was reported today by Portland mapper Peter who has been mapping
the TriMet routes on the Mapbox data team project tracker for adding turn
lanes. The relation members of around 20 routes and some turn restrictions
have been replaced by another route accidentally. After speaking to the
mapper, the entire incident has been documented here [1].

Currently it is unclear how to recreate such a scenario and if it was a
mapper oversight or software issue that caused so many relations to change
without being noticed. We still need to restore the routes to its previous
state and the workflow/tools for this does not seem very clear.

Reverting the changesets are causing multiple conflicts and there does not
seem to be a mechanism to just restore relation membership to a historical
version. Any help and ideas appreciated

[1] https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/185

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[Talk-in] Mapping for HOT response for Sri Lanka floods

[Arun Ganesh]

HOT just activated for the floods in Sri Lanka
https://twitter.com/hotosm/status/733050014931423236

We can help out by mapping in the affected area:
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1913#

We're seeing more extreme weather and even Chennai has reports of flooding
yesterday, which is unusual for this time of the year. Its also probably
time to think about how we can be prepared on the map front to help relief
agencies in India when help is required. The Chennai floods in November is
a reminder how vulnerable our cities are against nature.

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Re: [Talk-transit] Tag railway=station on ways and Wiki

[Arun Ganesh]

The one point approach works for small stations with a single entrance, but
is a little misleading for large station complexes with multiple entry
points. We have quite a few of these in India, where both sides are equally
important like the New Delhi station:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/28.64233/77.22188

In such cases its fair to add the marker in the centroid of the area, and
not on any particular side. The station building would then help the user
decide which entry is most convenient.


On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Nounours77 <kuessemondtaegl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> 100% agree with Nzara.
> Important to have ONE point for station, and the mapper can better decide
> where this is then an algorithm.
>
> nounours
>
> > Am 19.05.2016 um 07:28 schrieb Nzara <nzara...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hello Mauro,
> >
> > concerning your questions
> >
> >> Other question that came up was "why is it so important for that node
> >> to be unconnected with the railway track?"
> >>
> >
> >> Can someone help me to know exactly why it's better tagging a
> >> "railway=station" with a node only?
> >
> > I prefer the passengers view of a station or halt. If we will meet "at
> the station" where are you expecting to find me? This is the position, I
> usualy use for placing the railway=station node, definitly not on a track.
> The track carries nodes like public_transport=stop_position. Putting
> 'station' on a building or even a larger area leaves it to the renderer or
> any other data consumer to guess the center of the station from passenges
> view.
> >
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> >
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Re: [Talk-in] Railway station GPS co-ordinates

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On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Sutripta <sutri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Thanks.
> How does one know if an object has been groundtruthed/ validated?
>

An interesting question. The only way to really find out is to ask the
contributor I guess.


>
> Regards
> Sutripta
>
> On 16 May 2016 at 13:17, Shibu Narayanan <shibu.naraya...@oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The link suggested by Arun http://download.geofabrik.de/asia/india.html has
>> a 10GB xml file which contains the required information.
>>
>> I will extract it as a csv and post the results here.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Shibu Narayanan *Oracle Financial Services | Bangalore | India
>> Office:0091-80-4918-1692 | Mobile:0091-99800-64282
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sutripta (Gmail) [mailto:sutri...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 12:10 PM
>> *To:* OpenStreetMap in India
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-in] Railway station GPS co-ordinates
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Is the list of Railway Stations/ Junctions in India available as a CSV/
>> Excel file? Maybe with a column saying 'Ground truthed/ validated'.
>>
>> Sometime back there was a XML file from IR, but as pointed out by Arun
>> Ganesh, had a lot of errors.
>>
>> Regards
>> Sutripta
>>
>> On 12-05-2016 22:19, Arun Ganesh wrote:
>>
>> Hey Shibu, you can extract it live from OSM using overpass:
>> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/gbk
>>
>>
>>
>> If you want a shapefile of a larger area, suggest you download the OSM
>> extract from geofabrik http://download.geofabrik.de/asia/india.html
>>
>>
>>
>> The POI layer should have the railway stations.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Shibu Narayanan <
>> shibu.naraya...@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> How do I get the list of all railway stations in Karnataka(or any other
>> state) and also its GPS co-ordinates?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Shibu Narayanan *Oracle Financial Services | Bangalore | India
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Re: [Talk-in] Railway station GPS co-ordinates

[Arun Ganesh]

Hey Shibu, you can extract it live from OSM using overpass:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/gbk

If you want a shapefile of a larger area, suggest you download the OSM
extract from geofabrik http://download.geofabrik.de/asia/india.html

The POI layer should have the railway stations.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Shibu Narayanan <shibu.naraya...@oracle.com
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> Hi,
>
> How do I get the list of all railway stations in Karnataka(or any other
> state) and also its GPS co-ordinates?
>
>
>
>
> *Shibu Narayanan *Oracle Financial Services | Bangalore | India
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[Talk-us] Improving the classification of roads in SF

[Arun Ganesh]

While adding missing turn restrictions in SF using Mapillary around Market
Street, i noticed that the classification of many of the roads seem
inconsistent, especially since someone had retagged Market as tertiary
(from primary?) after traffic restrictions that came into effect last year.

I did some quick retagging where it looked like new mappers had elevated
the class of some roads and there were patches of secondary or tertiary
roads among lower class roads, but the area could definitely use more eyes
from locals to get it up to shape.

Is there any official classification that can be used as reference to make
improvements?

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[Talk-in] Multlingual map on openstreetmap.in

[Arun Ganesh]

Many thanks to Naveen for pushing for having Indic language rendering of
the map https://github.com/osm-in/openstreetmap.in/issues/14

Last week, we got out a demo of this live on the OSM India website, you can
try it out there:  http://openstreetmap.in/demo.html

The language switching currently works only for place names upto city
level, but that can be easily expanded as we get more translations in other
languages. Have documented how the map was made here:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/PlaneMad/diary/38176

The rendering of Indic scripts has some issues as the GL environment does
not have support for complex text shaping. This is being tracked here:
https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl/issues/4

Feel free to get into the OSM India repository and contribute to code
improvements. We can make some really useful demos to showcase with
institutions.

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Re: [Talk-in] Seeking advice for tree mapping using OSM

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A few of us have experimented with doing tree mapping in Bangalore with
good results
http://openstreetmap.in/events/2016/02/13/bengaluru-tree-survey.html

You can check the data here: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/eoA

Broadly there are two steps to the process:
1) Map the tree locations accurately. This in itself is a pretty tough
problem as the accuracy of a GPS is usually not enough to locate a tree.
What has been most effective is to first trace the building footprints on
the street, and then use them as reference features to position the tree
correctly with around 1-2m accuracy.

2) Add tree properties. This requires some prior training on identifying
species and measurement tools to capture properties like trunk girth and
height. Canopy area can be mapped from satellite imagery.


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Re: [Talk-in] Seeking advice for tree mapping using OSM

[Arun Ganesh]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Abhijit Kshirsagar 
wrote:

> I agree - "OSM is not the best place to use as a datastore".
>

OSM is nothing but a massive version controlled map datastore, so I would
think its probably the best place for this data.

What you would need is tools to track changes to the data and get alerted
if something suspicious happens, like some someone moving or deleting
trees. There are some tools that can already notify of changes to an area
http://tyrasd.github.io/osm-qa-feeds/


> Although, perhaps the data itself could be stored separately, and
> integrated with the OSM map layers for display / analysis etc?


To fulfill the requirements Nikhil posted, one would essentially need to
build another OSM to do this.

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Re: [Talk-in] National Waterways in India

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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Devdatta Tengshe <devda...@tengshe.in>
wrote:

> You should also note that the entire length of the river is not a
> waterway, according to the act.
>
> So we'll have to take care to tag only the specific lengths of the rivers..
>

This should not be much of an issue , the tag itself would be on a new
relation and not directly on the way.


>
> Regards,
> Devdatta
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If its a national reference, just `ref=NW4` should do. No real value of a
>> subkey unless there are competing national level identifiers.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Naveen Francis <navee...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> A dairy entry on NW @
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/naveenpf/diary/38245
>>>
>>> There is proposal to have @
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Waterways_%28India%29
>>>
>>>- ref:IWAI=NW4
>>>
>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:ref:SANDRE%3DNW4=edit=1>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please chip in with your suggestions.
>>>
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>>> naveenpf
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Re: [Talk-in] Boundary tagging scheme for India

[Arun Ganesh]

My feedback on the current state of the proposal:

# Admin Boundaries

This looks good overall. The important aspect about admin boundaries is
that they are fairly static and do not change unless through legislation.
Is this understanding correct?

I would correct the admin_level values to closely match the same values
used for countries around the world[1]. 2=national, 4=state, 6=district,
8=sub district, 10=revenue village (The odd numbers used for any groupings
in between)

# Political Boundaries

Boundaries defined by the election commission and redrawn after each census
by the Delimitation Commission [2]. The list currently covers the
parliament and assembly constituencies, but no boundaries for local bodies.

These boundaries do not coincide with administrative boundaries, except
maybe at the state level (admin_level=4)

# Self governance boundaries

These are technically political boundaries for self governance, according
to the Panchayati Raj system[3] and Municapal bodies.

This is currently divided into rural and urban boundaries, but can probably
be conflated together. It might also make sense to use a political_division
value that matches the admin boundaries:

Rural:
6=district/zilla panchayat, 8=block/subdistrict/mandal panchayat,
10=village/gram panchayat, 11=neighbourhood/ward gram sabha

Urban:
6=city/town municipal body, 8=sub city/municipal zones, 10=suburb/municipal
ward, 11=neighborhood/colony mohalla

Jaisen, would be great to hear your feedback on this.


[1]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries
[2] http://eci.nic.in/delim/Acts/acts.asp
[3] http://www.panchayat.gov.in/ebook/
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_governance_in_India


On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Merging recent discussions from district[1] and constituency [2]
> boundaries.
>
> The current tagging scheme for boundaries in India[3]  has limitations
> since it was not effectively researched to properly separate revenue and
> local body boundaries.
>
> This is the reason to draw up a more well researched proposal[4]
>
> Jaisen, who has experience working with the panchayat office in Kerala has
> just made the proposal more comprehensive[5]. This is right now the most
> detailed description of various boundaries in India that one can find
> anywhere online.
>
> This is a great time to get more eyes on this and work towards a final
> scheme.
>
>
> [1]
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2016-March/002529.html
> [2]
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2016-March/002533.html
>
> [3]
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries
> [4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_India/Boundaries
> [5]
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_India/Boundaries=next=1280759
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[Talk-in] Boundary tagging scheme for India

[Arun Ganesh]

Merging recent discussions from district[1] and constituency [2] boundaries.

The current tagging scheme for boundaries in India[3]  has limitations
since it was not effectively researched to properly separate revenue and
local body boundaries.

This is the reason to draw up a more well researched proposal[4]

Jaisen, who has experience working with the panchayat office in Kerala has
just made the proposal more comprehensive[5]. This is right now the most
detailed description of various boundaries in India that one can find
anywhere online.

This is a great time to get more eyes on this and work towards a final
scheme.


[1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2016-March/002529.html
[2] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2016-March/002533.html

[3]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries
[4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_India/Boundaries
[5]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_India/Boundaries=next=1280759

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Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

[Arun Ganesh]

>
> this means that all turn:lanes, change:lanes, access:lanes,
> forward:lanes, backward:lanes, etc. should count ALL lanes


Turn lanes meant for a turn in a particular direction at the junction. I'm
not sure if the concept of a turn lane extends to a cycle?

The turn lane data should provide enough information to a car driver on
which lane to take for a turn. Its obviously important to know the presence
of a cycle lane in between the car turn lanes for proper guidance, and the
main questions is if the `turn:lane` key is suitable for capturing this
data.

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian districts tagging

[Arun Ganesh]

1. place=district makes sense. We should change this.

2. Looking at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative it seems
like admin_level=6 is a popular choice for a district level unit in the
other big countries, larger than India. Its a good idea to use 6 for
consistency. And it allows use to use the 5 slot for the zonal councils.




On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Yogesh K S <yog...@itforchange.net> wrote:

> Currently I see that we have tagged most of the Indian districts(more than
> 300) with place=county[1] but this tag is mainly used on nodes rather than
> on administrative boundaries ways that are tagged with
> boundary=administrative.[2] But we have added administrative boundaries for
> all districts in India[3] and haven't tagged with place tags. And also we
> have used admin_level=5 for all district boundaries but the wiki shows
> admin_level=6 for district boundaries.[4]
>
> Request the community to comment or provide suggestions on -
>
> 1. Whether to use place=district instead of place=county since we
> refer them as districts on the ground in India.[2]
> 2. Whether to update the India wiki page to avoid confusion on using
> admin_level=5 for districts considering we haven't added revenue division
> boundaries[4].
>
>
> [1]taginfo.openstreetmap.in/tags/place=county
> [2]
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place#Administratively_declared_places
> [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_districts_in_India
> [4]
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_India/Boundaries#Administrative_divisions
>
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[Talk-us] San Jose GIS data license

[Arun Ganesh]

Has anyone checked out the GIS data for San Jose:
https://www.sanjoseca.gov/index.aspx?NID=3308

The data seem fairly comprehensive:
- City Council Districts
- Parcels, Single Street Centerlines and Divided Street Centerlines
- Address Points, Air Parcels, Building Footprints, Condo Points,
Intersections, Side Walk Areas, and Tract Boundaries
- Sanitary Mains and Sanitary Manholes
- Storm Mains, Manholes, Inlets, Laterals, Outfalls, Overland Drains and
Pumpstations
- Zoning designations

The disclaimer is a little vague and essentially says the data is provided
as is with no gaurantee https://www.sanjoseca.gov/DocumentCenter/View/16118

Does this mean its ok to use for OSM or is a more explicit license needed?
Could not find any prior discussion of the dataset on list.

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Re: [Talk-in] weeklyOSM 290

[Arun Ganesh]

Jinal, thanks for doing this :) Its fascinating reading all these
interesting ideas from all over the world. It would be nice to see more
projects coming out of India. I'm already very interested in Arun's
informal shop mapping in Mumbai[1] and am looking forward to updates.

[1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ArunMaharajan/diary/37945

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Jinal Foflia <fofliaji...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 290, is now available online in
> English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
> openstreetmap world:
> Among others:
>
>- In the city of Chefchaouen (the chief town of the province of the
>same name) in Morocco, a collaboration between young enthusiasts  resulted
>in something remarkable...
>- The website of OpenStreetMap Mali has gone live recently. ...
>- See which roads are exciting or boring in Martin Raifer published
>tortuOSMity ...
>- OpenMeatMap? The idea was born by the journalist Miguel Graziano and
>realized by mapache look in for more information on it...
>- Do you know the CERN app? It is absolutely useless for “common man” (
>Joe <http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/Joe.html> Public
><http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/Public.html> / John
><http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/John.html> Q.
><http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/Q..html> Public
><http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/Public.html>), but excellent for
>staff and visitors at CERN. ...
>
> http://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/6864
> <http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/6864>
> Enjoy! weeklyOSM is brought to you by ...
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Re: [Talk-in] Hello

[Arun Ganesh]

This is such a great idea, really looking forward to this. A great place to
share ideas around this with the wider osm community is by writing on the
diary: https://www.openstreetmap.org/diary and am sure mappers from around
the world can help out.

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Re: [Talk-in] Hello

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On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Arun Maharajan 
wrote:

> Hey Arun,
>
> Thanks for the info. This could be useful actually.
> Once i create my POI map, I can use Overpass to query them out and share
> the query results with the world.
> Am I correct?
>

Absolutely!


>
> Is there any trick to keep track of those places which I tag? Say can I
> use a tag with my name on it or some keyword on it which will uniquely only
> be mine?
>

Every feature you modify will automatically capture your username in the
metadata, so there is no need for you to add anything extra. In Overpass
Turbo, click wizard and try `user:your_username shop=convenience` to match
all grocery stores that you added.

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Re: [Talk-in] Hello

[Arun Ganesh]

Arun, you can create a really quick map of such data using Overpass Turbo.
Try this query for any feature tagged shop=convenience in Mumbai:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ehx

You can also write some simple MapCSS styling to control the marker colors
and size. I wrote about this in my diary a few weeks ago
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/PlaneMad/diary/37429

Was this what you were looking for?

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Arun Maharajan <arun.mahara...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you Paramvir for the inputs. I will ask Amey.
>
> On 08-Feb-2016, at 16:06, Paramvir Singh <paramvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's possible but I don't know how to do that. Someone with engineering
> skills can.
>
> 
> Blackberry has the world's best email experience.
>
> On 08-Feb-2016, at 3:18 PM, Arun Maharajan <arun.mahara...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ah. Interesting. Thank you.
>
> Just for information, is it possible to create a custom map of POIs which
> I can share with anyone?
> For e.g. If i wish to collate all the local grocery stores in an area of
> Mumbai and I wish to share it with my friends, is that possible?
>
> Thank you.
> Arun
>
> On 08-Feb-2016, at 14:45, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Welcome Arun! An interesting place to find collaborators is to look at who
> has been contributing around you, check out the history tab
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/history#map=10/19.1043/73.1044> to see if
> anyone is active.
>
> Also in Bengaluru, I have found that there are many organizations that are
> involved in urban studies and require a lot of map data, but do not know
> from where to get them. You could try reaching out to such folks and check
> if they are interested in hosting a mapping workshop where you could train
> others and build a more active community in Mumbai.
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> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Arun Maharajan <arun.mahara...@gmail.com>
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>> Hello,
>>
>> I just joined the list. Exploring open street maps for possible
>> collaboration and contribution.
>> Is there anyone on this list from Mumbai?
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>> Thank you.
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[Talk-us] Re-tagging quadrant routes in Pennsylvania

[Arun Ganesh]

Hey all, it would be great to get more eyes on the proposed retagging of
the quadrant routes in PA as documented in the OSM wiki from `ref` ->
`ref:penndot`.

Details: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/oini/diary/37800

The data team at Mapbox is happy to take this on and make the fix sometime
next week. Do add your comments on the diary if something is missing from
the proposed workflow.

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[Talk-in] Is Connaught Place a roundabout?

[Arun Ganesh]

On the recent world roundabout map[1] made by Sajjad, noticed that CP does
not have the `junction=roundabout` tag and was debating wether it is
actually a roundabout.

Is there anyone from Delhi here who has views on this? OSM:
http://osm.org/go/zmjtwnerJ-


[1] https://www.mapbox.com/bites/00205/#13.19/28.6313/77.2173

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Re: [Talk-in] Gujarat revenue maps

[Arun Ganesh]

> He mentioned that anything available on the website of Gujarat government
can be used freely and any way one wants.

They can't possibly license their data verbally like this. Do you know if
this a state policy and if it is there is a document somewhere that we can
reference to backup this claim?

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Re: [Talk-in] Gujarat revenue maps

[Arun Ganesh]

Shravan, can you share an email or note from someone from state authority
that mentions this?

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 6:59 PM, shravan <shravan.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Update: Just confirmed. Anyone can use the maps.
>
> Shravan
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> On 8 January 2016 at 14:52, Yogesh K S <yog...@itforchange.net> wrote:
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>>
>> These maps would help a lot to improve OSM in Gujarat!
>>
>>
>> On 01/06/2016 10:37 PM, shravan wrote:
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>> Hey Arun,
>>
>> I'll ask the concerned authorities, if they are willing to cooperate and
>> get back to you in a week's time.
>>
>> Shravan
>>
>> On 6 January 2016 at 18:30, Arun Ganesh <arun.plane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For each taluk is available here:
>>> <https://revenuedepartment.gujarat.gov.in/village-map>
>>> https://revenuedepartment.gujarat.gov.in/village-map
>>>
>>> Cannot find a copyright notice anywhere, wonder who we can contact to
>>> ask permission to use in OSM.
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