Re: [Talk-GB] Weight restrictions

2020-11-18 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Just so you know, bulk addition/editing/deletion of tags is now a feature of iD. Regards, *Paul* On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 19:21, Edward Bainton wrote: > hmm thank you > > This is probably one more occasion where I should graduate to JOSM rather > than sticking with iD - just guessing a bulk

Re: [Talk-GB] Jewson - is it shop=doityourself or shop=trade?

2020-09-20 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Note also that some of the larger Screwfix stores have physically separate general and trade counters (the latter usually carrying sub-brands Plumbfix and Electricfix) and with separate entrances (the first will list prices with and without VAT, the second only without). Could be mapped as two

Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

2020-09-16 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
> > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Mateusz Konieczny > *Sent: *16 September 2020 08:09 > *To: *Gareth L > *Cc: *Paul Berry ; Talk GB > > *Subject: *Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness

[Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

2020-09-15 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi all, Not sure who to direct this to so apologies for targeting the mailing list. However, I hope the right people can be found this way. If you use the query feature within iD (which uses the Overpass API) and point at a commercial building you get a Bulgarian label in the results set instead

Re: [Talk-GB] TPT / NCN62 (was: Re: National Cycle Network removal/reclassification)

2020-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
> It'd be a lot of work for relatively little reward though - presumably that's why no-one's stepped up to tidy things up yet. Andy, I'm quite happy to pick this up as I've been mapping parts of the route local to me anyway so assessing what is and isn't the TPT shouldn't be that arduous. It's

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging showgrounds

2020-05-13 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Not sure about the tagging/proposal politics but since there are a small number of showgrounds, is there anything to stop a UK-specific page being set up on the Wiki for visibility? Then if anyone wants to harmonise the tags they can use that as a guide to do so. There's nothing to say we can't

Re: [Talk-GB] New map of parcel postboxes

2020-03-24 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Much respect to Matthew. This is really useful. >From a mapping perspective, a gentle reminder to not armchair map this data: it's not ours. However when things get back to normal it can be used as a guide for ground surveys. Regards, *Paul* On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 11:12, Andy Mabbett wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] "OSMUK-in-a-box"

2020-02-06 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
When you have the setup guide drafted, I'll have a go at following the instructions to see if they're correct. I've never set up anything OSM locally so I can be your fresh pair of eyes on it. Thanks. Regards, *Paul* On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 13:17, Derry Hamilton wrote: > Hi Tony, > I did

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

2020-02-04 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Indeed, so long as you ignore https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/52528295, https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/134635221, etc ;) Feel free to adjust the mapping! Regards, *Paul* > By the way, there is at least one "sensibly mapped" university in > Cambridge: > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Soild fuel

2020-02-03 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
This is exactly how I've retagged a coal merchant's near me: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276999136 I suppose it's not a shop, per se, but it is a building and a place of business from which fuel is sold... Regards, *Paul* On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 12:26, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB <

Re: [Talk-GB] Various pedestrian crossing mapping issues

2020-01-20 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi Jerry, All valid points and thanks for raising them. I really do think we should try and find the different types of crossings on the ground (including variations), photograph them, and put them on the relevant page on the Wiki with tagging guidelines. I know there is a page already (

Re: [Talk-GB] Motorway junctions where the slow lane seperates from the through lanes

2020-01-14 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi Mike, Interesting points and no easy answer I fear. I think in mapping terms the midlines of each carriageway after the diverge will look more like a upside-down Y and I tend to do a bit of smoothing to make it look less abrupt. I think this is what you're getting at (apologies if not). It's

Re: [Talk-GB] No Through Road Ahead

2019-12-19 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I think it's 13 metres, according to: https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/vehicle-markings.html (these markings replaced the old "LONG VEHICLE" plates that were mandated; I presume they correspond to mentions of "long vehicles" on road signage too). I wait to be corrected however. Regards, *Paul*

Re: [Talk-GB] Appeal for Help - Amending a Route Relation - NCN Route 51

2019-12-19 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
This is all perfectly doable in iD (which I've used to map hundreds of relations) so be bold. Give it a go, mark your changeset for review if you want, and—after publishing—make use of tools like the excellent http://ra.osmsurround.org which will show any gaps or oddities with your relation.

Re: [Talk-GB] Parcel Post-boxes (again): national roll-out?

2019-11-29 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
We could try and arrive at a consensus now or wait for one to emerge organically by keeping an eye on trends here: https://osm.mathmos.net/postboxes/osm-box-type.html Personally I'm going to opt for post_box:type=meter;parcel for the few I've noticed appearing in Leeds. Regards, *Paul* On

Re: [Talk-GB] ITO! World Tools

2019-11-28 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
> Does anyone know the best, or suitable alternative, tool that replaces their analysis tools for the missing road names? http://qa.poole.ch/ is your friend and guide. Regards, *Paul* On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 21:12, Guy Collins via Talk-GB < talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Apologies if this

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Mill Races / Leats / Lades

2019-11-14 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
lrace") is new to me. I'll add keywords to the > wiki to make searching easier. > > Best > Dan > > Op do 14 nov. 2019 om 11:53 schreef Paul Berry : > > > > Looking at the existing guidelines it would be waterway=canal and > canal=headrace (canal here used in the po

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Mill Races / Leats / Lades

2019-11-14 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Looking at the existing guidelines it would be waterway=canal and canal=headrace (canal here used in the power rather than transport context) If this is indeed correct then it's not very obvious but it is detailed here:

Re: [Talk-GB] Monochrome map layers

2019-11-12 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
*Toner* by Stamen Design may well be what you need: http://maps.stamen.com/toner/ Regards, *Paul* On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 15:19, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_on_Paper may be useful > > > 12 Nov 2019, 15:59 by m...@good-stuff.co.uk: > > Does anyone know of a

Re: [Talk-GB] Name Suggestion Index

2019-11-06 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Continuing with the Hotel Chocolat example, it could well be the case that most are tagged with shop=confectionery because that was the nearest-fit tag that was suggested when each was initially mapped. If the more precise tag of shop=chocolate is now available we should make adjustments so that

Re: [Talk-GB] Next quarters project will be fixmes and notes

2019-09-24 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
There is also this public query, courtesy of *marczoutendijk*, that you can use for Overpass Turbo: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ltA Regards, *Paul* On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 13:39, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 24/09/2019 13:24, Michael Booth wrote: > > Fixmes can only be viewed in iD or with a QA

Re: [Talk-GB] Thomas Cook shops

2019-09-24 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I don't know about that but Rob is very quick off the mark with his Ghosts tool: https://osm.mathmos.net/ghosts/thomas-cook/ Regards, *Paul* On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 23:21, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: > Anybody know of specific high st shops for Thomas Cook which have > remained open? > From

Re: [Talk-GB] Is metric or imperial units system used for max weight signs in UK?

2019-06-21 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I map the units actually signed on the ground with no manual conversion. If both units are used, considering as a whole the advanced signage and signage at or on the structure, I use metric. Regards, *Paul* On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 19:41, SK53 wrote: > A couple of things: > >- Guernsey,

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charge points

2019-05-17 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
> P.s. With this and renewable energy, is the time coming to set up an Environmental OSM team/group/working group? Just floating the idea out there. Yes, as I'd like to suggest better (default) tagging for recycling centres, or at least an exercise in refining existing data. There are so many

Re: [Talk-GB] wiki confirmation code

2019-05-16 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi Nora, Are you seeing something like this? Permission error You do not have permission to create this page, for the following reason:

Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

2019-04-29 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Now that I know the name for them you'll soon see that usage spread out across the rest of West Yorkshire :) This is one of them, hiding in Leeds: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6412833214 Regards, *Paul* On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 at 18:10, Mark Goodge wrote: > > > On 27/04/2019 18:02, I wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Sheffield Pub Meeting June 2019

2019-03-20 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
The Rutland Arms, a short walk from the station on Brown Street, is excellent for both food and drink. Not sure if I'll be able to join you but in any case I thoroughly recommend that establishment. Regards. *Paul* On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 00:11, SK53 wrote: > After a discussion in the pub

Re: [Talk-GB] Lake District NationalPark

2019-03-13 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Relation looks OK to me but I can't see the name at any zoom level: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287917 Regards, _Paul_ On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 21:13 Brian Prangle, wrote: > Can someone take a look at this relation? It doesn't seem to be rendering > on the main map > > Regards > > Brian

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking closed businesses

2019-03-07 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi Jon, Apologies if this is obvious but here goes... I don't know whether you need to do anything other than visit these places in person and make a judgement as to whether they are trading or not. It's usually pretty clear with closure notices posted, etc. Then update the map accordingly by

Re: [Talk-GB] We're missing changes to M1 Junction 36 which have apparently been in place for a year.

2019-02-15 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I adjusted the map from a trace I obtained this evening: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/67238911 Regards, *Paul* On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 12:44, Paul Berry wrote: > I intend to take a spin around the linked roundabouts this evening and try > to capture a trace or two... >

Re: [Talk-GB] We're missing changes to M1 Junction 36 which have apparently been in place for a year.

2019-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I intend to take a spin around the linked roundabouts this evening and try to capture a trace or two... Regards, *Paul* On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 at 21:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 14/02/19 03:42, Ed Loach wrote: > > Paul wrote: > > > >> Jerry, > >> > >> No worries. I think I'll

Re: [Talk-GB] We're missing changes to M1 Junction 36 which have apparently been in place for a year.

2019-02-11 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
obviously not the only person who forgets about these sources of open > data. I suspect that because they are not visible in the same way as OS > StreetView & Locator that they get neglected. We could really do with an > imagery layer based on OS OpenData Local. > > HTH, >

Re: [Talk-GB] We're missing changes to M1 Junction 36 which have apparently been in place for a year.

2019-02-11 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
OK, I'll give that a try this week and see how the GPS traces come out. Regards, *Paul* On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 10:31, John Aldridge wrote: > On 11-Feb-19 09:37, Paul Berry wrote: > > However I'm not overly keen on attempting to map the confluence > > of four major roads on foo

Re: [Talk-GB] We're missing changes to M1 Junction 36 which have apparently been in place for a year.

2019-02-11 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I'm very aware of this junction (it's in my neck of the woods) but given there's no aerial imagery the only option, currently, is a ground survey. However I'm not overly keen on attempting to map the confluence of four major roads on foot. What have others done in similar circumstances? Regards,

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

2019-01-28 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Sorry, I only have yet more questions. Once you get out into rural areas, it's sometimes the case that an entire hamlet is covered by a one or two postcodes. There may be named streets but according to RM/PAF these are ignored and such addresses take the form: building name/number, locality, post

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Driving Test Centres

2019-01-28 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
(Moment of reflection.) Sorry, you're right, of course they're not. That'll teach me to attempt to multitask at work. As you were. Regards, *Paul* On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 12:52, David Woolley wrote: > On 28/01/2019 12:45, Paul Berry wrote: > > Does https://wiki.openstreetmap

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Driving Test Centres

2019-01-28 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Does https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddriving_school not fit the bill? Tag usage here: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/tags/amenity=driving_school#map On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 12:08, Mike Baggaley wrote: > You could also add government=transportation to office=government > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

2019-01-15 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Is the complication anything to do with the history of the Severn Valley Plotlands (not sure if this is its title)? From the names of the chalets on the compulsory purchase order map we're in (or close to) that territory I think.

Re: [Talk-GB] Changing highway=ford to ford=yes.

2019-01-07 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I'd say the analogue to a ford is a level crossing: two ways of different types, usually vertically separated but instead intersecting at the same level, notionally at a point (though you could define an area if you want that level of detail). Coincidentally, some fords local to me (one which

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Boundary-Line - Manchester political wards and related boundaries, dealing with inconsistent data

2018-12-13 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I've been mapping for 5 years and I still use iD 95% of the time—because it just gets stuff done quickly and visually—so it's not just for newbies! Snapping to nodes isn't a problem per se but the implications of doing so can be. I've lost count of the times I've encountered roads with adjoining

Re: [Talk-GB] How to map houses

2018-11-27 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi Bart, Glad it's of use but I can't take the credit. I learnt of this tool via JonS (not sure if he is on here) who, from what I can see, has pretty much addressed all the housing in Wakefield with it! Regards, *Paul* On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 19:37, BD

Re: [Talk-GB] How to map houses

2018-11-27 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
> It would be useful if there was a means of splitting buildings in the editor(s). I believe the Terracer plugin for JOSM could be your friend and guide here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Terracer I've not used it myself however. Regards, *Paul* On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Roads for the Renderer

2018-11-14 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I've dropped DWG a note because the mapper in question has just responded and I need to hold my tongue rather than reply. Thanks for the tip. Regards, *Paul* On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 20:57, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: > On 14/11/2018 19:48, Paul Berry wrote: > > Hi, > > > > N

[Talk-GB] Mapping Roads for the Renderer

2018-11-14 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi, Not for the first time I'm having a run-in with a user regarding arbitrary mapping of road classifications in Leeds. Latest changeset comments: http://osm.org/changeset/64361310 Does anyone have previous experience of nipping this kind of thing in the bud? I don't mind manually reverting

Re: [Talk-GB] Spam GPS traces

2018-11-14 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
It could be obfuscated Strava logs or something like that. Would explain the deliberate lack of timestamps and a high use of footpaths/towpaths (for those out running) rather than roads. Regards, *Paul* On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 17:11, Silent Spike wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm editing this area ( >

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Would the etiquette here be to tag the objects with *source=local knowledge* if you happen to know the postcode without looking it up (or it's on signage, etc)? Regards, *Paul* On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 09:38, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 09/11/2018 09:09, Phoenix830 wrote: > > > I want to add postcodes

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 13:10, Mark Goodge wrote: > Another issue is how we tag "gateway" weight restrictions. These apply > only to traffic in one direction, and not to an entire length of road. > They're typically used in towns and villages that have been by-passed, > to ensure that HGV through

Re: [Talk-GB] What was the outcome of the discussion about C class roads with ref tags?

2018-09-24 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I would have thought lists like this should be on the Wiki, even if they don't make it to the map. Regards, *Paul* On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 21:34, Neil Matthews wrote: > > If there are tertiary ways that don't meet the above criteria they > > should be listed in some form of text file for

Re: [Talk-GB] Churchyard gate/shelter

2018-08-22 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
HI Martin, In the absence of a an official barrier=lych_gate tag why not use *both* barrier=gate and building=shelter tags, which would describe it? Regards, *Paul* On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 15:06, Martin Wynne wrote: > What is the correct tagging for this type of ornate gate often seen at >

[Talk-GB] Bartholomews, Brighton

2018-07-26 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I can't help but think this changeset is misguided for a number of reasons. However I'm nowhere near Brighton so not really in a position to verify other than from memory and some armchair detective work. To wit: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/59687846 So, two ways: "Bartholomews" and

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed software supplier ESRI creates OSM vector tile basemap

2018-07-11 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
> Can anyone assist with a query for a new user. Sounds like *access=customers* is the way forward here. See also https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access Regards, *Paul* On 10 July 2018 at 21:35, Simon Wetton wrote: > Hi. > > Can anyone assist with a query for a new user. > > I want

Re: [Talk-GB] Local names of bits of trunk roads

2018-06-25 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Someone's had a brave go at defining that very relation: http://osm.org/relation/2776562 Feel free to extend it, bearing in mind the Great North Road != A1 (M or otherwise). Regards, *Paul* On 25 June 2018 at 14:44, David Woolley wrote: > On 25/06/18 14:13, Stuart Reynolds wrote: > >> So how

Re: [Talk-GB] Sheffield Meetup tomorrow?

2018-06-19 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
close to the station is useful), or > outside City Hall from 18:30. > > I plan to get to Sheffield rather earlier. > > Jerry > > > > On 18 June 2018 at 09:31, Paul Berry wrote: > >> Is there a Sheffield Meetup tomorrow? I've only noticed this from >> weeklyOSM

[Talk-GB] Sheffield Meetup tomorrow?

2018-06-18 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Is there a Sheffield Meetup tomorrow? I've only noticed this from weeklyOSM and the Events Page on the Wiki. There's been no other mention of this that I can see. Could someone please confirm either way. Regards, *Paul* ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] House of Fraser

2018-06-11 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Feel free to use this Overpass query to highlight both fixmes and notes. courtesy of user marczoutendijk :) http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ltA Regards, *Paul* On 9 June 2018 at 02:22, Andrew Black wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Jun 2018, 01:57 Andrew Black, > wrote: > >> If you are going to do it use

Re: [Talk-GB] Toys R Us

2018-05-04 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Perhaps appropriate when the signage is taken down from any of their former stores en masse. In the meantime nothing stopping you mechanically adding disused :shop =yes

Re: [Talk-GB] Bottle Kilns

2018-04-05 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
> Do we have precedence for handling such cases, in other types of specialist buildings? Not sure, but I'm now thinking about other kiln-like structures close to my neck of the woods. Feel free to update the tagging on these accordingly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catcliffe_Glass_Cone

Re: [Talk-GB] unwanted advertising in OSM in the UK

2018-03-08 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Plenty of humans on the case already: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47688939 Regards, *Paul* On 8 March 2018 at 09:44, Jez Nicholson wrote: > Interesting. The skill is in how to spot the difference between a > description and an over-the-top SEO description.

Re: [Talk-GB] Errors in Street Names in Addresses

2018-01-30 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi again Rob, If you want some more work to do... given there will always be false positives, per Point 3 of your original email, would you be able to add a facility so we could mark these as such inline, eg as https://www.keepright.at does? S36 7GG, for example, correctly spans three

Re: [Talk-GB] Errors in Street Names in Addresses

2018-01-29 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
> On the other hand, sticking the full post code on a road is wrong, because it implies that everything on that road has that post code, which is not necessarily true, even for short roads, if there is a big user. But on roads where that *is* true, which granted might not be many, I have done so

Re: [Talk-GB] Errors in Street Names in Addresses

2018-01-29 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi Rob, This is a really useful tool and I've already started making tweaks to address data based on it. Could I make a suggestion? I think an ampersand is a legitimate character to see in an address or street name: Other Odd Characters Street names containing anything other than letters,

Re: [Talk-GB] Asda petrol station data

2017-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi Rob, If it's not too much trouble, could you run through an example of how to validate this data? I'm only going to weigh in on the one filling station I know in the import (Meadow Lane, Leeds) but it's not entirely clear how this is managed via the validation tool. Many thanks. Regards,

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenRailwayMap

2017-12-20 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
David, Happily, nothing sinister. It's a url forwarder/shortener used by Twitter. Will work on a phone browser, but may be blocked by desktop browsers. Regards, *Paul* On 19 December 2017 at 12:14, David Woolley wrote: > On 19/12/17 10:23, Steven Abrams (Brook

[Talk-GB] OpenRailwayMap

2017-12-18 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
A nice little social media boost courtesy of Tim Dunn: https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/942751174922555393 There's an Open Railway Map of the world and the level of detail is incredible http://www.openrailwaymap.org/ Regards, *Paul*

Re: [Talk-GB] NatWest / RBS Branch closures

2017-12-01 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
There are still "Lloyds TSB" branches to mop up too over 4 years since their demerger (over 600 matches based on March 2017 GB OSM extract), Are we able to list all of these points of interest conveniently in a tool? Overpass Turbo query: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/tsq Regards, *Paul* On 1

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map: abandoned railways may still have bridges.

2017-11-02 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
fted but the route is still visible (which I > presume is the case here). > > Though I do agree that bridge=* and railway=abandoned would be useful to > have rendered. > > > On 02/11/2017 13:43, Paul Berry wrote: > > Thirded. > > Examples abound but an egregious on

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map: abandoned railways may still have bridges.

2017-11-02 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Thirded. Examples abound but an egregious one, in this context, is the south side of Leeds City Centre where you have the Holbeck Viaduct with its 92 brick arches 3 stories high marching across the urban landscape. An extremely visible structure in reality but rendered invisible on all the main

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Standard Layer

2017-10-26 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
ssing maps rubbish... > > Phil (trigpoint) > > On 26 October 2017 13:12:02 BST, Paul Berry <pmberry2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Has there been a change to the colours on the Standard Layer or has >> someone inadvertently turned the UK into heath/farmland in the last 24 &

[Talk-GB] OSM Standard Layer

2017-10-26 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Has there been a change to the colours on the Standard Layer or has someone inadvertently turned the UK into heath/farmland in the last 24 hours? Visible at zoom level 13 only, it seems. Regards, *Paul* ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Red route attribution

2017-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Phil wrote: > As far as I am aware red routes only exist in that there London, so a UK wide practice is unlikely. > Probably equivalent to no stopping tagging combined with opening hours? I'd go with this. While Red Routes are London and West Midlands only, no_stopping and opening_hours tags

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging "Shared space" roads (Preston City Centre)

2017-10-02 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
One of the most significant shared space street schemes in the country (at least, the one that got the most publicity) is Exhibition Road. Here's part of it: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34401602 and it's mapped as living street even though it is not residential.

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking fountains, Ben Fogle, Find-A-Fountain, and Google Maps

2017-07-22 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
This example is years old but references the find-a-fountain dataset. Do we want to cross-reference drinking water sources in this way? http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1504407936 Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Andy Mabbett" To: "OSM GB mailing

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Summer 2017 July-Sept

2017-07-12 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Quick win for this would be to tag the operator as, eg, operator=First;Stagecoach and add a note to explain the running. Later you could duplicate the relation, keeping all member ways, nodes, etc, intact, but changing only the operator and opening_times for the hours of operation. I've added

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Summer 2017 July-Sept

2017-07-11 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Similarly, there is debate as to whether the main concourse bridge at Sheffield station is a PRoW (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/22979084). This is partly why there are no automated ticket barriers at Sheffield (yet). Regards, *Paul* On 11 July 2017 at 12:16, SK53 wrote:

Re: [Talk-gb-thenorth] Alsager Town - Incorrect data

2017-06-22 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi Dan, I'm not sure why it's taken 10 days for your message to reach the distribution list--that's another matter--but it's left enough time your updates to be rendered. Alsager appears to be in order. Regards, *Paul* On 12 June 2017 at 17:35, Dan Levin wrote: > Hi all,

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse Farm

2017-05-16 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Apologies, I have just found: https://wambachers-osm.website/nofarm/#layer=OpenStreetMap.org=FFT Regards, *Paul* On 16 May 2017 at 14:32, Paul Berry <pmberry2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jerry, > > Is there a quick way of seeing what needs fixing for a given area without > running

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse Farm

2017-05-16 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Jerry, Is there a quick way of seeing what needs fixing for a given area without running Overpass multiple times? Regards, *Paul* On 16 May 2017 at 13:30, SK53 wrote: > I just happened to notice on the Wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap. > org/wiki/NoFarm_cleanup_efforts)

Re: [Talk-GB] Spam/Marketing manipulation of mapping data

2017-04-26 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
as a POI instead. I'll revert the changeset (47688939) if no action in 7 days. Regards, *Paul* On 26 April 2017 at 14:17, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 26/04/2017 14:08, Paul Berry wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I presume egregious additions such as http:/

[Talk-GB] Spam/Marketing manipulation of mapping data

2017-04-26 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi, I presume egregious additions such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/40235088 can just be reverted, deleted, or otherwise reduced in impact (eg converting to a POI rather than an area) without further comment or is there a procedure for this? Note the user seems to have been created with

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering national/regional walking trails

2017-04-21 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi Beth, Roles apply to the members of relation (which are almost always ways), not the relation itself, if that helps. In theory a route such as this should be mapped as a parent route_master relation with all variations of that route as child relations. In practice this is somewhat rare:

Re: [Talk-GB] Is there a problem with the standard tile rendering

2017-03-01 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
The time taken for a new tile to appear has always been proportional to the information density of the tile and zoom level, in my experience. The more map data, the longer it takes. I've seen city blocks not refresh for a week, and it can then sometimes come through checkerboarded, whereas rural

Re: [Talk-GB] Is there a problem with the standard tile rendering

2017-03-01 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi Ian, Another tip if you want to double-check if changes have rendered on the Standard layer is to go to Share > Image > Set custom dimensions and select the area you've recently updated, then click [Download]. This will force a render so as to create the image file for download. (Images are

Re: [Talk-GB] Traditional/Historic Counties

2017-02-13 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
> Any thoughts? If there is a way of tagging these so they're ignored by Nominatim etc so address/location searches only show up modern counties, unless specifically searched for, and no occlusion occurs, then yes. Otherwise, you might get the following results: Sheffield South Yorkshire West

Re: [Talk-GB] Fire Roads (Leeds, Nottingham, etc)

2017-02-03 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
ed paving can be mapped as a > barrier, with access=emergency too. > > I'm glad that the photos I added to the wiki confirm my memory that "fire > path" is the word used on the signs. Was wondering where I got it from. > > Cheers, > > Jerry > > On 3 February

Re: [Talk-GB] Fire Roads (Leeds, Nottingham, etc)

2017-02-03 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
lt). >> >> The structures involved may be as illustrated by Paul. The older >> Nottingham ones tend to have a zone of the wavy block paving which is >> 10-15ft long and thus not a normal road in any sense. Other fire paths I've >> seen involve two locked boom gates. >> >>

[Talk-GB] Fire Roads (Leeds, Nottingham, etc)

2017-02-02 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi everyone, Fire roads are an uncommon sight in the UK. They're sometimes signed as "fire lanes," but they're nothing to do with the designation in the US (and elsewhere) which is a parking restriction: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane and we're also not talking about the

Re: [Talk-GB] the steepest residential street in England

2017-01-11 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I always thought Harlech laid claim to this at ~40% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ffordd_Pen_Llech http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/71230443 Regards, *Paul* On 11 January 2017 at 12:23, Jez Nicholson wrote: > Baldwin Street in New Zealand has been named the World's

Re: [Talk-GB] tag prow_ref

2017-01-10 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
So, convinced you were talking about me :) should I change *ref* to *prow_ref* on this and other footpaths I've tracked recently? http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/464500797 Regards, *Paul* On 10 January 2017 at 11:05, Dave F wrote: > This thread: >

Re: [Talk-GB] Brighton water (quarterly project)

2017-01-05 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
An idle thought, but I wonder how much of this could or should be mapped? http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/sites/b/brighton_sewers/index.shtml https://www.southernwater.co.uk/brighton-sewer-tours Regards, *Paul* On 5 January 2017 at 09:38, Jez Nicholson wrote: > I

Re: [Talk-GB] Local Authority rights of way information

2016-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
hat is missing and can then be surveyed. > > Another reason not to copy is that they are not 100% accurate and we > should map what is on the ground Regards, *Paul* On 21 December 2016 at 10:59, Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> wrote: > On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 10:39 +, Pau

[Talk-GB] Local Authority rights of way information

2016-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
Hi everyone, As you probably know, local authorities must keep available an up-to-date copy of rights of way for inspection. Can this information then be incorporated into OSM, having been witnessed, or is it a case of public but copyrighted? I'm currently nursing a complaint about a rural right

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] This is an auto-generated note from MAPS.ME application:

2016-12-19 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
That's a definite usability issue in their application (to say nothing of an annoyance to OSM mappers downstream). Is it possible to raise it with them as a bug? Regards, *Paul* On 19 December 2016 at 13:28, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 12:54 +, Robert

Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 phase 2a preferred route

2016-12-07 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
mapping has changed in areas, and remains as certain as can be for something not on the ground, then map away. Regards, *Paul* On 7 December 2016 at 10:27, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 07/12/2016 08:25, Paul Berry wrote: > >> I We don't know if it's going to take a

Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 phase 2a preferred route

2016-12-07 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I would say don't plot it if the route's not at all certain. You might even meet mapping vandalism if you laid down routes in Sheffield: it's an extremely touchy subject there. We don't know if it's going to take a city centre route or spur from the Don Valley route yet so unless things change the

Re: [Talk-GB] Ideas for quarterly projects

2016-12-07 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I'd vote for the pubs one, spurred on by the poor dataset that maths team used to find the pub crawl: it missed about 10 pubs near me, all long established. Now if they'd used OSM for the dataset and the mapping... Regards, *Paul* On 6 December 2016 at 19:32, Andy Mabbett

Re: [Talk-GB] Relation: Street

2016-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I understood the general rule of thumb was to map to the data and not to the renderer (which is an unknown quantity). If you're concerned about, say, OSM Standard layer, then I'm sure some kind of look-ahead could be employed when preparing a street for rendering: "If a way shares a start or end

Re: [Talk-GB] Chesterfield Pay Scale Area (former NaPTAN Plusbus zone)

2016-11-09 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
I say delete it but, in any case, shouldn't it be a relation and not a way? Regards, *Paul* On 8 November 2016 at 19:50, Dave F wrote: > I discussed the ones local to me a few years ago on here, proposing they > be removed as they were inaccurate (they passed

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes

2016-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
>). > > The Irish community run their own Nominatim instance which: > > a) is easier to maintain as the dataset is smaller > and b) is used to check broken polygon objects (through reporting those > which change in size considerably between updates). > > Jerry > > >

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes

2016-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
In the light of recent talk about postcode coverage, I've started mapping with postal_code the highways that front groups of buildings known to have the same postcode. However, that's in turn led me to notice that OSM still uses NPEMap as a reference for postcode searches. Given that NPEMap

Re: [Talk-GB] Summer quarterly project

2016-09-13 Diskussionsfäden Paul Berry
+1 for the town centre blitzing. Even well-mapped city centres change all the time (shops opening and closing for one) and there are plenty of examples of places you'd think would have more detail than they actually do (eg Leeds is still pretty poorly mapped for POI and businesses, despite my best

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