[talk-au] Did the Earth just move for you?

2020-01-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just saw reference to this: https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/nsw-and-victoria-just-jumped-18-metres-north/ar-BBYxCdy?ocid=spartandhp Damn, I guess that means we all have to go back in & adjust the maps! :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing

Re: [talk-au] Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2020-01-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Fixed! All personal details deleted, leaving just the address Thanks for comments all, Graeme > > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2020-01-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just started on NSW & found a tag that I'm not sure what to do with? https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6094347085#map=19/-33.87527/151.09672 , appears to be a tag that someone has put on their house, & called a tourist attraction? Leave it alone as valid, or should be deleted? Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2019-12-31 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
& done!!! & funnily enough, after all those listings in Melbourne, the one I got with 8 to go, & which said we were finished when I saved it, was in Mildura! Thanks Graeme > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] vic.gov.au lacking OSM attribution

2019-12-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
But White Pages use WhereIs, don't they? Thanks Graeme On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 13:51, Dion Moult wrote: > On the trend of pages without attribution, here's another for others to > check: > > > https://www.whitepages.com.au/flourishing-pty-ltd-10916392/chatswood-nsw-10916393B > > -- > Dion

Re: [talk-au] DEA Hotspots map - no attribution?

2019-12-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks Mateusz. I might try to get in touch with them about it Graeme > > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] DEA Hotspots map - no attribution?

2019-12-29 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks fellas! You're not wrong it's hard to see, especially when said little icon is sitting over pale grey land! On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 at 15:46, Phil Wyatt wrote: > > > Probably want to change the standard letter to point out that the > attribution should not be behind a button – needs to be

[talk-au] DEA Hotspots map - no attribution?

2019-12-29 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Just saw the new DEA / GA hotspots map for the first time. One of the map layers you can choose is OSM, but it doesn't appear to have any attribution on it? Could somebody please check & confirm? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Phone number updates

2019-12-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 at 12:36, Phil Wyatt wrote: > feel free to join me if you want some mind numbing entertainment for an > hour or two. > It is certainly that! :-) > WA and Tasmania already completed > As is Qld :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] parking and bike lane

2019-12-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks Graeme On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 at 16:52, David Wales wrote: > I prefer to use separate ways for separate foot paths. > As do I. > On 28 December 2019 3:02:30 pm AEDT, Sebastian Spiess > wrote: >> >> >> I do welcome comments. In particular regarding how to go about the cycle >> way and

Re: [talk-au] vic.gov.au lacking OSM attribution

2019-12-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 at 15:00, Dion Moult wrote: > The Leaflet link is present but the OSM attribution is not present. > In regards to Leaflet, are there different versions? I noticed on https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:156.4/centery:-27.0/zoom:7 just in this last day or so,

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 at 19:59, Nemanja Bračko wrote: > Hi, > > I have redefined my query: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/PfU > Just looked at that query for SEQ - NNSW area & it appears that there are a lot of aerodromes not showing up? I understand that minor airstrips without IATA / ICAO codes

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Address changes

2019-12-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks, fellas. Sorry, for a moment there I got Govt & Common Sense mixed up again! :-( Graeme > >> ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 at 15:39, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Node: Katoomba Airfield (1042094263) is a little difficult. > I notice that the airfield is marked as "disused", but in the article, the new owner says they've had chopper flights come in over the last year? Should it be

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Address changes

2019-12-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Assuming for a moment that it is actually open data (why else would they be offering it?), could they mail it directly to this mailing list? That would, of course, necessitate them signing up to the list, but tht should be doable? Thanks Graeme > >

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 17:33, Nemanja Bračko wrote: > > @Berjo, as I've noted in my first email we do not have any other signals > at the moment except imagery, and except for NSW where we have a base map. > So this would only be NSW? > @others, is it okay to make a polygon when we can

Re: [talk-au] Tagging of Park signs

2019-12-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 at 11:31, Reuben via Talk-au wrote: > Hi all, just wondering if anyone has any suggestions on to tag these (and > similar) signs: > Hi Reuben How about information=board https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:information%3Dboard together with board_type

Re: [talk-au] Sydney #geobeers

2019-12-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks for the invite Andrew, but it's a bit far to come for a beer, so I'll just have to join in remotely! Have fun! Cheers! Graeme On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 18:12, Andrew Harvey wrote: > For any Sydneysiders on the list, John Bryant[1] and I have organised a > #geobeers in Sydney this

Re: [talk-au] Automated monitoring of changes to existing OSM objects - any interest?

2019-12-14 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just wondering if it could be done as something like MapRoulette to show any changes? Thanks Graeme On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 15:34, Ewen Hill wrote: > Recently I have been talking to someone off-list about monitoring large or > complex relations. In his instance, he was looking to monitor a

Re: [talk-au] 1300 / 1800 phone number format

2019-12-13 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 14:34, Kim Oldfield wrote: > > My suggested rewrite is: > Thanks, Kim - that sounds much better! Please go ahead & make the change :-) Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] 1300 / 1800 phone number format

2019-12-13 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks for confirmation, fellas On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 12:03, Phil Wyatt wrote: > > I think an Aus Wiki update would be a good thing. > Done! https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#13.2C_1300.2C_1800_and_1900_numbers As always, comments welcomed :-) Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Whereis copyright?

2019-11-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 17:43, cleary wrote: > > Where is uses OSM now but I think that is a fairly recent development. > > Previously their map was from another source, possibly Here Maps but I'm > not sure. Use of that data in OSM would not have been appropriate. The fact > that something was

Re: [talk-au] Are we allowed to use PTV datasets (CC 4.0)?

2019-11-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 08:58, Aaron wrote: > Hi, > > Just checking up on this. It's been 2 months since I sent the waiver, is > it a normal waiting period, or did I address the wrong person or something? > Anythings possible, Aaron, or they just don't know what to do with it? :-) Yep, I'd

Re: [talk-au] Whereis copyright?

2019-11-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
WhereIs belongs to Sensis https://www.sensis.com.au/, but I can't see any mention on either site of a CC or any other licence except (c) Sensis. Strangely enough, though, the WhereIs map uses OSM! Thanks Graeme On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 14:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSGeo Oceania] OSGeo Oceania - Call For Members

2019-11-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
om/drive/u/0/folders/1UKcKVeknkgf38o_-Td4G53jzJCtyyD-d> > . > > Cheers > John > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 15:41, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> Hi John >> >> Thanks for the invitation! >> >> Couple of questions please. >> >&

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSGeo Oceania] OSGeo Oceania - Call For Members

2019-11-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi John Thanks for the invitation! Couple of questions please. Is this intended just for potential "ordinary" members eg keen mappers interested in growing things, or is it more for "executive-level" people? (Probably not the right word, so my apologies - definitely no offence intended!) & are

Re: [talk-au] SA location imagery

2019-11-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
That was quick! Thanks for checking. Graeme On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 17:21, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I just heard back from Location SA. The basemaps and imagery are still not > able to be released as CC BY, so we'll need to keep waiting for now. > ___

Re: [talk-au] SA location imagery

2019-11-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks, Andrew Graeme On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 09:09, Andrew Harvey wrote: > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 09:36, Andrew Davidson wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 8:56 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick >> wrote: >> >>> We've now got permission & a

[talk-au] SA location imagery

2019-11-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Finished tidying up the Data Catalogue page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue & have a question re some of the SA data Location SA is marked as "Not under an open licence but may move" When I've just looked at it http://location.sa.gov.au/viewer/ under "Help", it

[talk-au] Aust Data Catalogue

2019-11-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi all With Andrew's permission & OK, I've started the process of tidying up the Data Catalogue page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue Looking at putting each State's data together, too make it easier to find. Will take a little while, but in the meantime, your

Re: [talk-au] Uluru naming consistency

2019-11-13 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 06:22, Joachim wrote: > > @Graeme: You went for "Uluru / Ayers Rock", but I hope you can accept > the majority's choice. > Not a problem! Although I'll openly admit that whenever it comes up in conversation amongst the family, it's *always* Ayers Rock :-) Thanks

[talk-au] Street names from gis.mn.gov?

2019-11-04 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Sorry about the cryptic title :-) Was looking at the map earlier & spotted a change made by one of the Microsoft mapping team that had the comment "Adding missing roads from aerial imagery, and names from source= gisdata.mn.gov #maproulette" What's gisdata.mn.gov? This particular change was

Re: [talk-au] Uluru naming consistency

2019-10-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Again, thanks for your interest, Joachim! I had no idea that the story had gone international. Been doing some checking & it's a mess :-( Wiki: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uluru *Uluru* (/ˌuːləˈruː/ , Pitjantjatjara

Re: [talk-au] "Legacy" offices

2019-10-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 08:50, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am not that familiar with what Legacy actual does.. > As far as I am aware they give financial support and advice, "Legacy is a charity providing services to Australian families suffering after the injury or death of a

[talk-au] "Legacy" offices

2019-10-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just mapping the local admin office for Legacy https://www.legacy.com.au/ Came up with: amenity=social_facility social_facility=outreach which seems OK, but social_facility:for= has got me a bit? children / youth / orphan / family are all suggested values & all would apply, depending on

Re: [talk-au] Map features for OSM & new street-level imagery in Australia

2019-10-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
data here <https://www.mapillary.com/osm>. > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 07:32, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> Do we need the various Councils' permission to use this data, or are we >> jut using it out of Mapillary, which I believe is "legal"? >> >&

Re: [talk-au] Map features for OSM & new street-level imagery in Australia

2019-10-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Do we need the various Councils' permission to use this data, or are we jut using it out of Mapillary, which I believe is "legal"? Thanks Graeme On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 06:55, Edoardo Neerhut wrote: > Excellent Daniel. > It is likely some 2019 imagery will be imported this year as well for

Re: [talk-au] Facebook RapiD Roads

2019-10-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 21:58, Luke Stewart wrote: > Also they seem to be using Maxar imagery which seems to be the most up to > date across the country, thus it had new housing subdivisions. > I've spotted a couple of those when using Maxar, so have been able to add residential streets. The

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just having a think about it & realised that we have the opposite number to consider as well! https://www.cwaa.org.au/ They would both tie in together nicely as amenity=community_centre + community_centre=men's_shed / cwa & I don't know any "repair cafe's" either? Although, apparently, they

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads' conclusion

2019-10-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 05:40, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > access=destination is defined as no transit traffic. > > So it means that anybody may use road/path, > but not as a shortcut. > > "only residents", "only with permission > of owner" are access=private > Thanks for that clarification -

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads' conclusion

2019-10-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
2 thoughts. Map the full road we can see on overhead imagery, or just up to the (usual) gate? & access=private, or =destination? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 20:03, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 07/10/19 19:57, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > I added this to the ATG as amenity=community_centre + > community_centre:for=man, > > > 'man' may mean both men and women. On the other hand it maybe the original > use was for males

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
> 7 Oct 2019, 08:39 by matkoni...@tutanota.com: > > Based on images it sounds close to hackerspace/makerspace, but with no (or > lower) focus > on software part and greater on direct working with wood and similar > materials. > > See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dhackerspace >

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 16:25, Ewen Hill wrote: > Exceddingly happy with community.shed as proposed > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, 5:15 PM Sam Wilson wrote: > >> I think amenity=community_centre makes sense, and I think there’s enough >> in Australia to warrant a specific community_centre=mens_shed (or

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks fella's - thought I remembered seeing some mention of them! On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 14:23, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Existing; > > amenity=community_centre > community_centre:for=men > name=North Sydney Men's Shed > > > name=Parramatta District Men's Shed > office=charity > >

Re: [talk-au] Discussion I: Quality is the coherence of four things

2019-10-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Yes, I'm afraid that I can see an edit War starting here soon :-( Thanks Graeme On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 19:53, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > I am concerned by the high frequency of reference to "laws and > regulations" and "Australian Tagging Guidelines". If it is true that > "95% of paths to

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

2019-09-29 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 09:06, Andrew Davidson wrote: > I was more interested in how consistently they are installed in > Queensland. > Sorry! In my part of the GC, I've seen the shared path signs along the GC Oceanway. One other shared path nearby, they're "painted" on the path itself, rather

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

2019-09-29 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 06:44, Andrew Davidson wrote: > > Does anyone know what the situation in Queensland is? Do they bother > putting up the signage? > https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/rules/wheeled-devices/bicycle#footpath Riding on a separated pathOn a separated path, you can only

Re: [talk-au] Newcastle to Ballina Pacific Highway classification

2019-09-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 07:23, Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I came across section of Pacific Highway between Balina and Newcastle > which is currently under upgrade until 2020. ( > https://www.pacifichighway.nsw.gov.au) > I drove the length of

Re: [talk-au] QTOPO online maps

2019-09-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 18:54, Simon Poole wrote: > The text in the waiver referencing the ODbL is there so that it is clear > that we are not proposing completely waiving the restrictions on DRM use > (though for produced works it does essentially amount to that, but not for > the data itself).

Re: [talk-au] QTOPO online maps

2019-09-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
With regard to my ongoing issues with GCCC, the latest obstacle is because there are 2 online versions of CC BY 3.0 - they apparently say the same thing, but are formatted differently, which was enough to throw things into utter confusion :-( Their latest: "I need to engage our legal team to

Re: [talk-au] QTOPO online maps

2019-09-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 at 21:02, Andrew Harvey wrote: > On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 at 18:05, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > >> See https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ >> >> CC BY 4.0 requires waiver >> >> The additional text is confirmation that it is >> actually released under

[talk-au] QTOPO online maps

2019-09-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On the subject of what can we use, I've been looking (only looking & sometimes confirming that what I thought is correct!) at the QTOPO map http://qtopo.dnrm.qld.gov.au/Mobile/ I know we have Qld Globe listed on the Data Catalogue as "Appears to not be under an open license" but QTOPO appears to

Re: [talk-au] Are we allowed to use PTV datasets (CC 4.0)?

2019-09-13 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 23:29, Aaron Fang Shenhao wrote: > Hi everyone, > > This is my first time using the mailing list. I’ve noticed that PTV’s > (Public Transport Victoria) datasets ( > https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/footer/data-and-reporting/datasets/) all fall > under Creative Commons

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Ewen Hill

2019-08-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Nice work Ewen! I just corrected one very minor typo by adding a comma. I'm not sure that these bits read quite right though? "Data-sets that contain First Nation details need extra vigilance and discussion with elders above the standard import process" "beyond the standard ..." perhaps?

Re: [talk-au] [FOSS4G-Oceania] GHG mitigation and FOSS4G SotM Oceania

2019-08-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
I've also seen reference to investing in mangroves. Can't see the particular reference just now, but this also discusses the concept further http://awsassets.panda.org/downloads/wwf_iucn_mangroves_investment_effectiveness_guide.pdf Possibly another option? Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Road classification in AUS

2019-07-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 20:55, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I think if you apply sensible defaults where not tagged (track => unpaved, > other roads => paved, 50 km/hr for residential, lanes=2), then we have > mapped a lot already, sure there's a lot to go, but we're getting there. > The subject of

Re: [talk-au] Map use without attribution

2019-07-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
OT to this particular problem, but still sort of on this subject ... One of the aircraft tracking sites I use http://aussieadsb.com/VirtualRadar/desktop.html# has mentioned in this last week that they have changed their background from Google Maps to OSM, as, due to much increased use of their

Re: [talk-au] Copying address from business website?

2019-07-21 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 13:06, Kim Oldfield wrote: > Is it acceptable to copy a street address (and other contact details) > from a business's webpage? > I certainly do exactly that all the time! Make note of the shop name, or pull it off my dash-cam footage, search that name & suburb & enter

Re: [talk-au] Maxweight signs question

2019-06-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 22:19, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Another NSW example > Carrying on from Andrew's example ... If you have the basic sign without a specified limit eg

Re: [talk-au] Maxweight signs question

2019-06-23 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 05:53, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > How weight limit signs in Australia looks like? Especially on bridges? > > https://www.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0020/42824/r6-3.png > I've seen a couple of these on bridges around our area, but that's in Qld so understandable! >

Re: [talk-au] Australian Buildings in 3D - verandah

2019-06-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 14:24, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Works for 2D ... 3D? > Sorry - didn't even notice that it said 3D - my bad :-( Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Australian Buildings in 3D - verandah

2019-06-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 17:22, Alex Sims via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > I can’t seem to workout how to do a veranda (lightweight external roof, > not the main roof of a building) in Simple 3D mapping. Can someone please > point to some existing examples on the map that work? >

Re: [talk-au] GHG mitigation and FOSS4G SotM Oceania

2019-06-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 19:17, adam steer wrote: > Hi folks > > Following from an earlier discussion [1] on osgeo-oceania about offsetting > emissions which are incurred by getting to FOSS4G SotM Oceania, there’s > been a long chat in the Maptime Australia slack channel about creating a >

Re: [talk-au] Tagging frontage roads

2019-06-13 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 13:38, David Wales wrote: > I only heard the term from the Wiki. > They were originally tagged as service roads, but I changed them to > residential roads, > because that's what I thought the Wiki was suggesting: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Frontage_road > > I'm

Re: [talk-au] Tagging frontage roads

2019-06-12 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 13:00, Ben Kelley wrote: > > I would say yes. Include the name. > > - Ben Kelley. > > On 13/6/19 12:36, David Wales wrote: > > Dear Talk-AU, > > > > Should frontage roads be tagged with names? > Yep, I always do, partially because anybody trying to navigate to "16

Re: [talk-au] Caltex on name-suggestion-index

2019-06-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks everyone! Mateusz, the Oz only option would be very useful, so thanks for putting that suggestion through. Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Local Chapter

2019-06-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 1 Jun 2019 at 20:08, John Bryant wrote: > > Re: geographic extent, one of the definitions we've been using for other > purposes (eg conference travel grants) is the UN geoscheme for Oceania: > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_geoscheme_for_Oceania > Interesting bit I

Re: [talk-au] Caltex on name-suggestion-index

2019-06-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Is there a simple, easy to read (ie not Github code! :-)) list of these preset names? Thanks Graeme On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 22:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Can you link to an affected OSM object? It sounded like something caused > by > name-suggestion-index, but I see no matches in > >

Re: [talk-au] Local Chapter

2019-05-31 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 13:06, Edoardo Neerhut wrote: > Simon, you raise a good point! What do you all think is an effective way > to get this input? Reach out to people we know are active mappers in > Oceania and see if they would like their country to be represented? > > On Sat, 18 May 2019 at

Re: [talk-au] cuisine tag fitting amenity=fast_food name=Oporto

2019-05-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 01:47, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Is there one that apply to every single location for this poi? > > What would be appropriate value for it? > Mainly chicken - they do offer other things as well, but if I had to pick 1 thing it would be chicken. "Nando's" is also

Re: [talk-au] Pharmacy/chemist tagging

2019-05-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 18 May 2019 at 18:03, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > How for example Amcal will be tagged? > > amenity=pharmacy > name=Amcal > The other question is what is the actual name? Are they Amcal, Chempro or Amcal-Chempro? Thanks Graeme ___

Re: [talk-au] use of addr:unit

2019-05-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 23:51, Andrew Harvey wrote: > To me they are all the same. I think addr:flats given it's documented on > the wiki and is in use is the best tag to use. Open to other opinions. > I usually just tag the whole building with the street address (100 This Street, Somewhere,

[talk-au] Country / farm dams

2019-04-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Question that just came to mind after discussions on tagging list. Just entered some details for a property in Western Qld, & started to include a turkey nest dam https://www.agric.wa.gov.au/water-management/excavated-tanks-farm-dams, but then thought, what's it actually called? Is it a

Re: [talk-au] "Hidden" National Park boundary

2019-04-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
ries" are all type of boundaries, not just admin! Thanks everyone! Graeme On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 10:17, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 23/04/2019 00:22, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > ... > > But I still can't "see" the National Park / nature_reserve boundary to > >

Re: [talk-au] "Hidden" National Park boundary

2019-04-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks everyone! You convinced me not to try to move the boundary! I'm tempted to do as you suggest Warin & delete the natural=wood cover for the whole area, then re-do it just for the actual tree coverage, which would / should then make the other details visible. But I still can't "see" the

[talk-au] "Hidden" National Park boundary

2019-04-21 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Could you please have a look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-28.09588/153.45869 You can see that the boundary of Burleigh Head National Park is shown as being out in the water of Tallebudgera Creek, which may actually be the correct boundary?, but doesn't make a lot of sense? I was

Re: [talk-au] [Tagging] Stop the large feature madness

2019-04-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 03:35, Michael Patrick wrote: > our map would look like this :-) http://bit.ly/2IGkgoj > That's an amazing image, thanks Michael. I take it that's the home location of all OSM contributors? I'm surprised that India & especially China (where I thought OSM was banned?)

Re: [talk-au] POI - address details

2019-04-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 23:01, Sebastian Spiess wrote: > Hi list, > > this question originates from the discussion about the NSW address > import, see here: > https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import/issues/7 > > My view is that addresses are more than just the Street name and house >

Re: [talk-au] Rock Overhangs

2019-04-14 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 07:55, David Wales wrote: > I support natural=rock_overhang, or something similar. > Yes, that seems the best answer. Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Shout out

2019-04-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 10:14, Sebastian S. wrote: > So what is a good approach to do here? > Ideally we could encourage the participant to make better valued > contributions. > E.g. by > A) proper tagging > B) use of Most recent images > C) changest comments > > But how to reach him best? > &

Re: [talk-au] Shout out

2019-04-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 18:12, David Wales wrote: > > Probably worth loading up some LPI NSW imagery and seeing if things look > legitimate. > When you go into edit mode, it certainly appears that way. The person concerned is still very busily mapping, at the moment down Holsworthy way. I

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

2019-04-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 07:17, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > This was discussed a while back about mapping a track up in that area, but > I can't find the reference in the archives > Found it! https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2018-August/012029.html Which mentioned &qu

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

2019-04-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 20:27, Ian Sergeant wrote: > How do we actually contact "local elders"? > Would have to be done "on the ground" in that local area > Where do we record their consent? > Possibly in Notes? Maybe the Oz Data Catalogue page

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

2019-03-31 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 14:54, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > rock_painting and rock_art as discussed? > Yep! :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

2019-03-31 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 13:27, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm busy trying to get site:type in order .. > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:site_type#Other_undocumented_.28suggested.29_values Wow! Hadn't looked at it previously Good luck with that one - you're a real

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

2019-03-31 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 13:27, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, please. OK. Added this: Aboriginal & Torres Straight Islander sites Please practice extreme care when mapping sites (e.g rock art, ceremonial places) that may be of significance to Aboriginal or Torres Straight

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

2019-03-31 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
d it is amazing the amount of >> artifacts that were identified that could disappear if mapped accurately by >> trophy hunters. >> >> Ewen >> >> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 10:38, Graeme Fitzpatrick >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 1 Apr 20

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

2019-03-31 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 08:51, Gavin Scott wrote: > > The issue about the sacred-ness -it is not the job of OSM to make this > call. If you think an item is too private to map (perhaps such as a farmers > internal road network) then don't map it. Tthis is the mappers call. > There has been

Re: [talk-au] Rock Overhangs

2019-03-31 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 18:14, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Rock overhangs (rock shelters) have been quite extensively mistagged in > Australia as natural=cave_entrance. > > Are there any objections to re-tagging these overhangs tagged as > natural=cave_entrance to amenity=shelter +

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites.

2019-03-31 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 10:38, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't like the tourism tag for them so much, prefer the historic as that > better describes them? > I've got no real input into what "type" of art we call them, but one thought re the tourism side of things. Are you only

Re: [talk-au] Help with overlapping features

2019-03-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks everybody for suggestions, but couldn't get any of them to work unfortunately :-( Even found a suggestion for using Potlatch but no good there either. Finished up deleting the bike path & some of the edge nodes of the residential area, which let me move things around to their proper

Re: [talk-au] Help with overlapping features

2019-03-29 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 17:05, Dion Moult wrote: > Have you tried josm? > Tried to have a go at it for the first time a few weeks ago & couldn't even get it to download! On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 17:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'd use the LPI Base Map for reference, it does have

Re: [talk-au] Help with overlapping features

2019-03-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 15:21, David Wales wrote: > Hi Graham, > > What editor are you using? > Only ID Thanks Graeme > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Help with overlapping features

2019-03-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 14:36, David Wales wrote: > Hi Graham, > > Are you just wanting to unglue the ways from each other, so that you can > move things around without moving other things around? > Yeah, that would help, thanks David. Thanks Graeme

[talk-au] Help with overlapping features

2019-03-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Just doing some mapping around here https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-28.8636/153.5756 after a weeks holiday down there :-) If you have a look, there's a bit of a mess. The outer of the riverbank is 50 m's from the water up on dry land, wetlands have been marked in as also going up onto

Re: [talk-au] Bushwalking site using OSM

2019-03-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 22:19, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I just launched a new map based on OSM data > https://www.beyondtracks.com/map/ > Looks good Andrew. Are these all walks that you've done yourself, or have you sourced info from elsewhere? Obviously NSW-centric. Any plans to expand

Re: [talk-au] OSGeo Oceania as a not-for-profit entity? Your feedback, please

2019-03-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks for keeping us posted, John, & good work! I'd agree with the suggestion of a stand-alone CLG as a SPC, together with charity status. Although, as you have noted, this combination reduces the need for an AGM & Financial reporting; in the interest of transparency, I would urge you to still

Re: [talk-au] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Australia

2019-03-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 08:30, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > It is supported. > > For example my code with multiple old style links > > - does not make edit if there is no wikipedia tag (to avoid using wrong > language) > - does not make edit if various links are not linking to the equivalent >

Re: [talk-au] Editing speed limit in Australia

2019-03-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 at 08:48, Ross Scanlon wrote: > What you've said is correct for off ramps but would be incorrect for on > ramps. > > The on ramp speed limit may be determined from the adjoining road(s), as > the last speed limit sign is the applicable limit until you pass another > sign. > >

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