Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

That's weird. Save for some tactile paving what's the difference between North & South? DaveF On 10/12/2020 14:08, Tony Shield wrote: /Are there any public cycleways from which pedestrians are actually banned? / Unfortunately yes - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/827379295 Quite clear

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

I believe you're incorrect. Cycleways can be shared use with pedestrians, & almost always are in the UK. Cycleway/footway/path tags are not based on usage figures. Cycleway allows for two modes of transport, footway allows one.  Likewise 'bridleway' allows for three modes -

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

On 08/12/2020 12:36, nathan case wrote: but instead setting as disused:highway. This is what I tend to do when the PROW route is clearly inaccessible from aerial imagery (e.g. due to new buildings, or rivers). IMO, this is bad mapping. Just because one person concludes it isn't used by

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

On 08/12/2020 12:42, Mark Lee via Talk-GB wrote: Ah sorry, I shall remove it then Robert. I have drawn it freehand based on what I'd seen on their site as a right of way. Presumably then, if there's no established path, I can never add it to OSM because the definitive map is my only source for

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

On 08/12/2020 12:08, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 09:39, Mark Lee via Talk-GB wrote: Hello. I've just added a missing public bridleway (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/882278479) which is detailed on the Wiltshire Definitive Map. Generally these maps have

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

On 08/12/2020 09:36, Mark Lee via Talk-GB wrote: Hello. I've just added a missing public bridleway ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/882278479) which is detailed on the WIltshire Definitive Map. It runs across a field and doesn't appear to have been in use recently, I couldn't see it on the

Re: [Talk-GB] electric fences

Some of the properly installed versions I've tagged as gates - The electricity passes through a bungy cable & is connected with a metal hook at one end which is encased in a rubber handle allowing the walker to unhook it & pass through. I usually only map the ones where I know, or it looks

Re: [Talk-GB] Footways bikes can go on

On 21/11/2020 18:35, Edward Bainton wrote: Thanks all for these ideas. The path is marked as shared, but only in the middle of the park

Re: [Talk-GB] Footways bikes can go on

HI There's a misconception that highway=cycleway implies an automatic authority over other path users. This is untrue It's just a hierarchy of the number of different transport modes permitted to use it. Similarly, highway=residential permits motor vehicles as well as bicycles &

Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

On 19/11/2020 20:57, Brian Prangle wrote: Dump for external databases? Surely not! FHRS? Well that's why I've been trying to clean up FHRS tags. The only tag that should really exist is the ID code which refers /back/ to the external database. UPRN? USRN? I'm struggling to see the

Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

yone with valid reasons for not removing these tags? DaveF On 19/11/2020 16:49, Martin Wynne wrote: On 19/11/2020 16:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: > > Anybody know what featdesc & featcode refer to? Local authority > references? Hi Dave, Sorry about poor formatting, cop

[Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

Hi https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10kw Anybody know what featdesc & featcode refer to? Local authority references? Appears to be only rivers & woods.These are the only examples in the UK The contributor who added them hasn't responded. DaveF ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Service road with private locked gate and routing apps

I wouldn't have mapped that as any kind of road at all. From aerial imagery the west end is blocked by a container & vegetation suggests it's not been used for years. On 16/11/2020 11:18, Mat Attlee wrote: There is a service road in Homerton that I noticed several different routing apps

Re: [Talk-GB] Q4 2020 Quarterly Project: Defibrillators

On 14/11/2020 12:39, Donald Noble wrote: Firstly, I have seen a few buildings that have an AED pictogram sign outside, suggesting that there is a defibrillator inside. Is this considered sufficient 'on the ground' evidence to add to the map. I'd say yes. Add access &/or note tag to clarify

Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

On 30/10/2020 15:28, ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB wrote: Hello, It has come to my attention that the "Town Plan" map from 1944-1967 in NLS is available freely. Link to this on NLS? DaveF ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

About the only change I've made in years of mapping 'non-mini' roundabouts is to split the oneway=yes flare 'V' into two segments. JOSM validation started flagging the junction node of the V as too tight a bend, which I suppose makes sense. This is a good example of how routing is

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

There is a lot of garbage in OSM due to those creating routers being too lazy to write a few lines of code, or even use common sense. However, in this case I believe it's other contributors who think, for reasons that escape me, routers require it. Routing software must be of a poor standard

Re: [Talk-GB] Blocked / overgrown / inaccessible footpaths and bridleways

All The most important thing to do in situations like this is to contact the LA responsible & ask them to clear it. As I said on the preceding discussion of this topic in Talk, many of these descriptions are subjective. What you or I may consider completely impassible, others could be

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

On 28/09/2020 17:53, Dan S wrote: Hi Rodrigo I think Loomio is designed for the purpose of making good decisions together: Come again? Why do you think "good decisions" can't be made here? What do those who don't wish to join yet another off-shoot do? DaveF

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

On 28/09/2020 15:29, Rodrigo Díez Villamuera wrote: Thanks all of you for your messages. As a new joiner, I could not ask for more than other members engaging in such a passionate way :) It's fair to say that there is no clear consensus of whether the proposal, in its current form, is

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

Three things to note: SO3166-1=GB is misnomered & includes Northern Ireland. (As I found out, some contributors there get annoyed with UK wide edits). You may want to use area(id:3600058447,3600058437,3600058446); // England Wales Scotland instead. Many pubs are mapped as ways/relations so

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

On 28/09/2020 10:56, Philip Barnes wrote: On Mon, 2020-09-28 at 10:10 +0100, Mark Goodge wrote: On 28/09/2020 10:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: Remember: OSM is not an IT project. Indeed not. But this is also a good example of the truism that OSM is not a map, it's a database. Having the right

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

On 28/09/2020 10:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: Rodrigo, On 27.09.20 17:28, Rodrigo Díez Villamuera wrote: After some time using OSM as a user, I decided to make my first step as a contributor, hence this email and the proposal inside. If your first idea of "how to contribute to OSM" is "how to

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

On 27/09/2020 19:35, Andrew Hain wrote: Keep Right flags web links that have gone offline. Unfortunately it doesn't really do that. After a discussion with the developer I found out it tests whether a server in central Europe has a link to the UK URLs not if the actual link is current. I was

Re: [Talk-GB] Pedestrian priority and highway=cycleway

I think highway should be reverted to cycleway. There's a misunderstanding that highway=cycleway implies priority to bicycle riders, when it actually relates just to the number of transport modes which can use it. Bridleway equates to three modes: walkers, bikes & horses. DaveF On 03/09/2020

Re: [Talk-GB] How closely do we map lamp posts?

I already answered your last point. Good to see the give way is against the motor vehicles. On 02/09/2020 22:37, Lester Caine wrote: On 02/09/2020 19:00, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: I don't know the area. but they look like the existing posts to me. Has the cycle path been realigned around them

Re: [Talk-GB] How closely do we map lamp posts?

I don't know the area. but they look like the existing posts to me. Has the cycle path been realigned around them to provide better vision splays/ stopping room to motorists?

Re: [Talk-GB] New Forest Panorama Mapping Party - September 13th 11.00

If your wishing to socially distance, Sunday lunchtime/afternoon seems a strange time to do it. On 23/08/2020 13:43, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hello everyone, Some of you are aware of this, but we (David Greenwood of TrekView and myself) are organising a Panorama Mapping Party on September 13th

Re: [Talk-GB] Eat out to help out data

Too transient/inaccurate for me, personally. Even my local LA can't publish an accurate list. Anyway, I'm too busy mapping garden fences in the hope of upsetting sensibilities. DaveF On 19/08/2020 21:10, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi all, Anyone considered using the Eat out to Help out data

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

On 13/08/2020 15:41, Simon Still wrote: So my understanding is that OSM normally only maps what’s actually on the ground rather than what might be shown on a map (and there was some discussion recently about this - https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-gb@openstreetmap.org/msg19303.html) This

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

What is it? On 12/08/2020 16:54, SK53 wrote: OpenRoads from the Ordnance Survey contains a field containing the toid for the street name. I wonder if we should include these alongside usrn & uprn. They may be more useful than either for gathering complex roads which share a name.

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

On 21/07/2020 17:30, Mark Goodge wrote: On 21/07/2020 16:57, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote: Is the National Chargepoint Registry data open for OSM now? If not somebody should write a nice enough letter? It is open, it's OGL now. But it's not reliable enough for an unfiltered bulk import;

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

On 21/07/2020 12:10, Chris Hill wrote: Leccy car drivers need to know if the point is working. Apps from the charge point suppliers and from others such as Zapmap try to keep drivers informed about the availability and condition of the point. OSM doesn't have that info and can't update it in

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

1538 nationwide. Use this to see what other tags contributors are adding. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Wia DaveF On 21/07/2020 11:58, Mark Goodge wrote: Do we map electric vehicle charging points? If not, should we? None of the ones in my town are on OSM, at the moment. I could add them,

Re: [Talk-GB] POI files of Pub/Restaurant chain

Hi Did you obtain them from their website? If so, could you post the link? What's the content? Just location co-ordinates? DaveF On 15/07/2020 14:00, o...@poppe.dev wrote: Hey all, I just accidentally found that the Pub next to "curious 20602512" is operated by a chain with quite a few

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Plugin for the FHRS API

I'm getting this after selecting the Search Entry option: https://snipboard.io/7J6Eb0.jpg Latest JOSM version Any ideas? On 26/06/2020 10:45, o...@poppe.dev wrote: Hey Tony, as I'm from the other side of the Channel, I doubt that there's someone from the UK community that knows me well

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Plugin for the FHRS API

As the OSM entity has to already contain the FHRS:ID tag it limits the usefulness of this plugin. Won't most have address data added when contributors initially add the FHRS tag? I certainly do. What would be useful is a way to search the LA's database for retailers which don't have a FHRS

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

Are you sure it's upto date?: Page last reviewed: 15 December 2016 Next review due: 15 December 2019 The 'GPs' is corrupted with Chines symbols. On 16/04/2020 17:18, Mike Baggaley wrote: The data at https://data.gov.uk/dataset/e373eb6a-fffd-48e5-b306-71eb17f97af2/pharmacies looks like an

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

Why country codes? OSM is geospatially aware. On 09/04/2020 14:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 14:26, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 09:21, Tony OSM wrote: If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging. Do

Re: [Talk-GB] Anybody in the Dunstable/Luton area?

Bedfordshire, and is on the left hand side of the road, orientated for buses heading NW along Station Road as they come off the busway. So yes, it is incorrect in OSM. Regards, Stuart Reynolds for traveline south east and anglia On 22 Mar 2020, at 14:17, Dave F via Talk-GB mailto:talk-gb

[Talk-GB] Anybody in the Dunstable/Luton area?

Hi If you're in the Dunstable/Luton area would you be able to clarify if this way is used as a regular bus route and if the bus stop at the Western end exists?  https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/218924564 The only routes I've located so far, continue along the Busway. There's a contributor

Re: [Talk-GB] Cheers Drive, Bristol

On 15/02/2020 12:08, Borbus wrote: I've long suspected that local councils and other government bodies are giving data directly to Google. They're given to everyone. Look at the planning applications. They often have street names in the documents. Many OSMers are sensible enough not to add

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

On 06/02/2020 16:49, Phillip Barnett wrote: And here is the email from the guy who did the original mapping, the last time this came up, including his reasoning for the amenity Tag rather than building tag https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2015-May/017457.html Note the time

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

On 06/02/2020 15:48, Brian Prangle wrote: "OSM is not beholden to data consumers. They take the data 'as is'. That includes any amendments My planned amendment can always be reversed if there is a valid reason. Upsetting CU isn't one" Not a great way to build a community when the data user

Re: [Talk-GB] railway=halt

On 31/01/2020 23:49, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Hi Over the past few months I've been sorting & adding detail to the UK's National Rail railway stations so that OSM has the correct amount. As it's been a week, with no objections, I'm proceeding with the amendments. I'm keeping a

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

ers, Jerry On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 15:15, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: On 04/02/2020 14:28, Dan S wrote: Hi Dave, I agree with what you suggest. Can we be a bit precise though about what you propose? You're proposing to remove amenity=university from building=university in Cambridge, and make

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

0 om 14:15 schreef Dave F via Talk-GB : Hi There was a discussion 5 years ago. There may have been others. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2015-May/017455.html Many amenity=university tags were added unnecessarily to building=yes A contributor had converted these to building=

[Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

Hi There was a discussion 5 years ago. There may have been others. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2015-May/017455.html Many amenity=university tags were added unnecessarily to building=yes A contributor had converted these to building=university, in accordance with the wiki.

Re: [Talk-GB] railway=halt

On 01/02/2020 12:40, Tony OSM wrote: Hi Great to see your station work. Thanks I agree they should all be station. If DfT classifies stations as A-F or whatever then a tag to indicate that would be useful. These DfT classifications seem to be used by the rail industry to indicate

Re: [Talk-GB] railway=halt

On 01/02/2020 10:39, Gareth L wrote: Just to throw in some awkward cases, there are stations which are request stops in one direction only. E.g. Llanwrda is request stop southbound but always stops northbound. Basing use of this tag on service pattern, which changes every 6 months seems not

Re: [Talk-GB] railway=halt

On 01/02/2020 00:05, Martin Wynne wrote: The traditional distinction was that Halts were unstaffed. These are now classed as DfT F, which is also worth adding. DaveF ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-GB] railway=halt

Hi Over the past few months I've been sorting & adding detail to the UK's National Rail railway stations so that OSM has the correct amount. I'm unsure of the benefits of tagging some of them as 'halts'. I'm proposing they should all be 'station'. All 2567 NR Stations with 96 halts in blue:

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging ad hoc parking places?

On 31/01/2020 11:41, Martin Wynne wrote: On 31/01/2020 11:13, ael wrote: OK. I agree that parking=layby is much better. Thanks for the comments. But the places I was asking about can't really be called laybys, or car parks. Somewhere that a car could be left for a few hours out of

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

I forgot to mention that linear ways do have an implied width. It can be explicitly declared with the width tag. Although, other than waterways I don't /think/ any renderers take advantage of it. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:width DaveF On 01/01/2020 00:49, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

/footpaths o the 'standard' rendering. On 31/12/2019 18:45, Martin Wynne wrote: On 31/12/2019 18:10, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: I would add the appropriate surface=* tag to the way. Thanks Dave. But a way is a *line*. I want to tag the *area*. I've got 3 ways - 2 fences and a track. Tagging

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

I would add the appropriate surface=* tag to the way. DaveF On 31/12/2019 16:38, Martin Wynne wrote: Here is a track/public bridleway:  http://85a.uk/coffin_way_960x520.jpg which I can easily map as such. But that is just a *centre-line*. If I add the fences, what is the correct landuse

Re: [Talk-GB] New Entertainment venue - what tags?

Hi In your example they're all different companies with different addresses & contact details, FHRS etc Tony's is one company, one address etc, so I think it should be one node, or if mappable, a building part area.. The facilities should be listed in sub tags - bar=yes, restaurant=yes  etc

[Talk-GB] Which paths are shown on this OS 'Standard' render

Hi https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/ This OS map render only shows a selection of paths. Does anyone know what criteria OS used to decide which to render? Initially, it appears random. I've a contributor who says it's evidence that some PROWS don't exist any more. They're still shown in

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabouts one piece or segregated

On 23/12/2019 18:28, David Woolley wrote: On 23/12/2019 18:15, Nick Allen wrote: I may be missing something here, but https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/477263099 looks okay to me. The OP was proposing that ,

Re: [Talk-GB] No Through Road Ahead

The advice to tag the tight corner is correct. There's no requirement to tag the whole road as any router/sat nav worth their salt should search well ahead for any such restrictions. Are there chevron signs at the corner? You can always map the actual sign, but personally I don't bother as

Re: [Talk-GB] Disused or empty apartments

On 19/12/2019 02:09, Warin wrote: On 19/12/19 13:01, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: On 19/12/2019 01:41, Andy Townsend wrote: Aside from this particular question, that's actually a problem that happens all the time with things like "amenity=pub; tourism=hotel" - I'd rather the m

Re: [Talk-GB] Disused or empty apartments

On 19/12/2019 01:41, Andy Townsend wrote: Aside from this particular question, that's actually a problem that happens all the time with things like "amenity=pub; tourism=hotel" - Not really. pub & hotel are synonymous but building=yes (which indicates it's operational) is antonymous to

Re: [Talk-GB] What is farmland?

On 14/12/2019 16:08, Martin Wynne wrote: I would say yes, as I believe both arable & livestock is farmland. Thanks Dave. But in that case, how on OSM do we differentiate between the two? I would have said farmland=arable/livestock, but it doesn't appear to be that popular.Have you searched

Re: [Talk-GB] What is farmland?

On 14/12/2019 15:19, Martin Wynne wrote: Is this "farmland"?  http://85a.uk/haws_hill_960x600.jpg I would say yes, as I believe both arable & livestock is farmland. I concur with your frustration about 'huge multi polygons', especially when joined to other features such as roads & rivers.

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref reference table

On 26/11/2019 12:01, Tony OSM wrote:  to the preferred prow_ref format  Adlington FP 5. As previous, this is not the preferred format. The format should be as supplied by the LA, the organisation which has the *authority* to name PROWs. Creating a reference unique to OSM doesn't improve the

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM-UK misunderstands the British Isles

On 13/11/2019 15:42, Jez Nicholson wrote: Hi Dave, There was a long and detailed discussion about where is covered by OSMUK. Hi Where/when was this discussion held? DaveF ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM-UK misunderstands the British Isles

Here's OSM-UK's page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom#Guidelines On 13/11/2019 15:08, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Hi Someone involved with OSM-UK may wish to check the definition of The British Isles: https://www.britannica.com/place/British-Isles They may also wish to have

[Talk-GB] OSM-UK misunderstands the British Isles

Hi Someone involved with OSM-UK may wish to check the definition of The British Isles: https://www.britannica.com/place/British-Isles They may also wish to have a read of this: https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/departments/cabinet-office/external-relations/constitution/ What is the

Re: [Talk-GB] Name Suggestion Index

On 06/11/2019 14:22, SK53 wrote: Personally I'd prefer retaining confectionery & perhaps using some kind of sub-tag for the chocolate bit: although chocolate only/dominated shops are much commoner than some other kinds of sweet shop. Yes. shop=confectionery confectionery= chocolate/fudge etc

Re: [Talk-GB] FIXME/fixme/OSm Notes Quarterly Project

erpreted as roundabouts by routers, ie, inferring the direction without a oneway tag, or do I tag the roundabout segments as one-way in a circle? (or something else!) On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 00:54, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation?relationId=2580522=true&_noCac

Re: [Talk-GB] FIXME/fixme/OSm Notes Quarterly Project

http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation?relationId=2580522=true&_noCache=on Click on 'Analysis on map' All bits with a marker need looking at, plus roundabouts require splitting as the bus doesn't go all the way around. This one looks like a right mess given the loop with the bus stop is

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding buildings and addresses

no?) On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:43 AM Dave F via Talk-GB < talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote: Could you clarify/give an example of what you mean by 'Community Maps''? DaveF On 16/09/2019 00:02, Luciën Greefkes via Talk-GB wrote: Hello everyone, I'm currently working on mapping the neighbourh

Re: [Talk-GB] Zebra crossings being lost in iD - how to respond

On 25/10/2019 12:04, Andy Townsend wrote: On 25/10/2019 11:43, Jez Nicholson wrote: +1 for a bot edit Perhaps Maproulette would be a better option?  Zebra markings would often be visible on aerial imagery, and a comparison of newer vs older imagery might allow people to identify recent

Re: [Talk-GB] Reference numbers for UK admin areas?

because (1) parish councils are third parties to the Public Sector Mapping Agreement and (2) they have just had a lot of assets (or should that be liabilities?) devolved to them from higher tiers of government. Edward On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 16:25, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Which Sutton? Could

Re: [Talk-GB] Reference numbers for UK admin areas?

Which Sutton? Could you post the OP? DaveF On 23/10/2019 15:49, Edward Bainton wrote: Hi all On the forum marczoutendijk gave me an Overpass query to find grit-bins in Sutton. He added an admin-level to distinguish the parish of Sutton from the London borough. The only issue is, there

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixmes and Notes

Hi I've amended the OP query to return more on topic results: Restrict it to footways & paths Find fixme values which include, but aren't solely either incomplete,stub, longer than this or continue" Add 'survey' value. http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/N5N DaveF On 13/10/2019 13:57, Rob

Re: [Talk-GB] accurate GPS

Oh, is /that/ what he's doing? On 10/10/2019 17:47, Jez Nicholson wrote: *Ahem* no offence to Simon, obviouslyhe's just trying to check out a manufacturer's claims and opening a can of worms in the process. On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 5:18 PM Dave F via Talk-GB < talk-gb@openstreetmap.

Re: [Talk-GB] accurate GPS

On 09/10/2019 23:12, Warin wrote: I'd think to get that level of accuracy you 'd need readings over some considerable time... days? Otherwise you get bias from, as you hint, the atmospheric conditions, the satellites in view - their bias, angles .. Unless you have access to correction

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

long ago it is that you were in discussion with them? On 10 Oct 2019 00:26, "Dave F via Talk-GB" wrote: I've had the occasional limited discussions on social media. Arguments against using OSM fall into 1. Claim of no cost to use OS data as it's via local authority licensing. Unsure i

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

On 10/10/2019 00:11, Warin wrote: On 09/10/19 21:21, Martin Wynne wrote: On 09/10/2019 11:11, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Not so fast... The current Company is still bust. The shops are closed. "Sunderland-based Hays said it planned to reopen all the shops under its own brand with imme

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

I've had the occasional limited discussions on social media. Arguments against using OSM fall into 1. Claim of no cost to use OS data as it's via local authority licensing. Unsure if it's all LAs 2. They "wanted to use mapping that had 100% reliable data for the users benefit." 3. Mild

Re: [Talk-GB] accurate GPS

2cm? I'm intrigued, what model are you using? What were the atmospheric conditions on the day you took your reading? DaveF On 09/10/2019 11:05, Simon Ritchie wrote: I've been working with some GPS equipment that claims to be accurate to 2cm. To test it, I've been visiting local OS trig

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

Not so fast... The current Company is still bust. The shops are closed. On 09/10/2019 11:00, Martin Wynne wrote: The advantage of turning them all to disused: is that they are done. The disadvantage is that there is no local confirmation. However .. I think most will agree that even without a

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

On 04/10/2019 01:52, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote: On 04/10/2019 00:26, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: I think you're missing the point. Most contributors believe postcodes on buildings or property nodes, add quality to the OSM's database, but object to the import of codepoint as it's just

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

I think you're missing the point. Most contributors believe postcodes on buildings or property nodes, add quality to the OSM's database, but object to the import of codepoint as it's just not accurate enough as stated in this, & numerous other threads. There's no point in importing to stand

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

I think this is a Win/JOSM problem - After pasting the URL If I move the cursor using the arrow keys the TMS URL is created. Thanks DaveF On 02/10/2019 17:19, Chris Hill wrote: Thanks for reporting a problem - I'll always try to respond if I can. The installation process has changed in the

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

FYI in JOSM (latest) https wont generate a TMS URL. I had to change the pasted URL to http & then back again. then it generated & 'ungreyed' the Okay button. Is this expected behaviour? On 02/10/2019 15:37, Chris Hill wrote: Thanks, I've just updated with August 2019 data, the next update is

Re: [Talk-GB] TfL cycle data published - schema mapping

Bike riders may like to read about  the latest mess concerning cycle lanes: https://www.cyclinguk.org/blog/underhand-law-change-undermines-mandatory-cycle-lanes?fbclid=IwAR1oqOMvD9XjMFrLwKAr65Jw-8ifm0qXSNshRe7yhbKiZ2h7-sVlxsXLbyU DaveF On 22/09/2019 15:45, Mike Baggaley wrote: I would prefer

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

On 29/09/2019 14:30, David Woolley wrote: I think too much effort goes into these big changes. The actual change is dead easy in JOSM. It's all this faffing about having to discuss it that takes up all the time. As I said in another thread this increasing reluctance to removing/updating

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

On 29/09/2019 14:03, Jez Nicholson wrote: Re: my comment about shop=vacant. I may have been convinced to use disused:shop=travel_agent + name=Thomas Cook. * travel_agency Not sure whether a vacant shop with no ghost signage would still be a shop=vacant or a disused:shop=yes. As those two

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

Because shop=* indicates it is still open for business. disused:shop=* indicates it not being used for it's previous purpose. On 25/09/2019 13:24, Andy Mabbett wrote: "Closed for business" does not equate to "vacant". Why not some thing like opening_hours = none

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

My OP should indicate I'm aware of variants. There's the head office, which I believe is still functioning as a part of Matterhorn, a bus stop & a statue DaveF On 24/09/2019 15:44, Frederik Ramm wrote: Just don't take the lawnmower over the database and assume that everything that is called

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

Something has happened. The company went into liquidation (not administration under which, I believe, they could still operate) & the shops have closed. If your local chippy closed would you leave it mapped as still open for business? On 24/09/2019 14:47, Chris Hill wrote: Thomas Cook shops

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

Re: shop=vacant. This is a popular alternative tag, but removes the previous usage from the latest version. I found knowing this helpful when a new shop replaces it - "There's a new café opening in what used to be the flower shop" How is the name tag dealt with if disused: isn't used? Tony.

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding buildings and addresses

Could you clarify/give an example of what you mean by 'Community Maps''? DaveF On 16/09/2019 00:02, Luciën Greefkes via Talk-GB wrote: Hello everyone, I'm currently working on mapping the neighbourhoods of Welwyn Garden City. For that I'd like to use an accurate resource, also not to miss out

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

Hi Bullet point replies: * Under the PROW section why are the 'yes' values not 'designated'? * byway_open_to_all_traffic - Why is motor vehicle 'private/no'? * Clarify which tags are optional (ie horse for Footpaths) * Designated ways aren't limited to

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

On 02/09/2019 14:58, David Woolley wrote: This could conflict with a trend that I believe is developing, at least for more formal roads, of removing signage, because it distracts drivers, and relying on satellite navigators to provide the information instead. What evidence have you of this

Re: [Talk-GB] Rowmaps importing in South Gloucestershire

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Public_Rights_of_Way_Data_from_local_councils . While there's nothing listed there, it's definitely not ok to use the data in OSM. Rubbish. Just because one person isn't aware of a fact, it doesn't make it untrue. No one person has authority

Re: [Talk-GB] Rowmaps importing in South Gloucestershire

Hi Neil. I contacted SG recently regarding as updated dataset under OGL v3. A Nicola Chidley from SG said I should use their set on rowmaps. An IT officer also said they were given OS copyright exemption in 2016. As it's designated paths being added other tags as well as highway should be

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits

It would be good if they could add address data. Probably not postcodes - I assume they're a customer of Royal Mail's PAF, but house numbers & names. DaveF On 29/07/2019 13:32, Gregory Marler wrote: I've exchanged a number of messages with the Amazon mappers and their team lead Jothirnadh.

  1   2   >