Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Stephen Hope
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish, everyone else is limited to 100, how exactly do you map that? (and I saw one such sign only the day before yesterday).

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Smith
2009/12/27 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com: 2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish, everyone else is limited to 100, how exactly do you map that? (and I saw one

Re: [OSM-talk] Why doesn't OSM ?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Liz
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: 1. What do we want to protect? 2. Whom do we need to protect us against? 3. What resources (and what other means to get to 1.) does that guy have? Sometimes, for a balanced reaction, you might also want to add: 4. How realistic is the threat

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Why doesn't OSM ?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Aun Johnsen
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Dec 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: 1. What do we want to protect? The data is fully open, but some people want to reduce their fingerprint on the data to protect themselves, for example they submit their GPX tracks

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Why doesn't OSM ?

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Smith
2009/12/27 Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org: Taiwan, Sri Lanka, Morocco, Israel, Palestine, Russia, all of these are Then there is China and Iran and various other countries that love to jail their dissidents... As I said before, until any of this has a direct negative effect on people

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Roy Wallace
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: As long as you know the state default speed limit, this is easy to tag.  It is exactly the same as a sign with that limit. If so, just remember to indicate the source as discussed at:

Re: [OSM-talk] Patch to render names from routes and custom highway shields on a per country basis

2009-12-27 Per discussione Lennard
John Smith wrote: Ok, another go at solving this, I've been talking to h4ck3rm1k3 about this problem some what and we think we might have a workable solution. Does it need solving? It's been said that the current uniform worldwide appearance has its advantages as well. [skip technical ideas]

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Per discussione David James
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish, everyone else is limited to 100, how exactly do you map that? (and I saw one such sign only the day before yesterday).

Re: [OSM-talk] Patch to render names from routes and custom highway shields on a per country basis

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Smith
2009/12/27 Lennard l...@xs4all.nl: Does it need solving? It's been said that the current uniform worldwide appearance has its advantages as well. Like most other issues, some say yes and some say no, there is no consensus on this or many other similar issues nor would I expect there ever to be,

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Why doesn't OSM ?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Matt Amos
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Dec 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: 1. What do we want to protect? The data is fully open, but some people want to reduce their fingerprint on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Why doesn't OSM ?

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Smith
2009/12/28 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/12/28 Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com: if you are really very concerned with your privacy: don't upload tracks which include your home or office locations at all. Lets assume for a second that they are smart enough to filter their points

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Why doesn't OSM ?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, John Smith wrote: Lets assume for a second that they are smart enough to filter their points so they aren't near their home location, we can also assume they may not have vectorised the data, however there is a lot of non-home/non-work information still not being protected by a simple

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Why doesn't OSM ?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Aun Johnsen
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Dec 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: 1. What do we want to protect?

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Why doesn't OSM ?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Aun Johnsen
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Aun Johnsen wrote: John Smith wrote: Lets assume for a second that they are smart enough to filter their points so they aren't near their home location, we can also assume they may not have

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Liz
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Anthony wrote: I suppose all the bicyclists in OSM would disagree with that, but they don't have much use for primary/secondary/tertiary designations either, do they? Of course we do, we want to avoid certain roads ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Liz
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote: Mind you, I have no idea why these signs still exist, since I don't think there is anywhere in Australia you can legally go faster than 130km/hr these days. Has the NT put a standard speed limit on last? It changes policy with each change in government

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Anthony
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Anthony wrote: I suppose all the bicyclists in OSM would disagree with that, but they don't have much use for primary/secondary/tertiary designations either, do they? Of course we do, we want to avoid

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Per discussione John F. Eldredge
Well, you don't want to ride on an expressway (for safety reasons, and also because doing so is illegal in many cases). However, in addition to the speed of the motorized traffic, you also have factors such as the presence or absence of a dedicated bicycle lane and/or wide shoulders, whether

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Anthony wrote: I suppose all the bicyclists in OSM would disagree with that, but they don't have much use for primary/secondary/tertiary designations either, do they?

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Why doesn't OSM ?

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Smith
2009/12/28 Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org: John Smith, you can put your money where your mouth is and write a patch, since you brought this up? I can't do anything until I know what will be protected by SSL, because TomH said they don't even know yet. Until something certain is stated by

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Anthony
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: We want to avoid roads with too much traffic. None of these maps are going to check for hills It doesn't matter whose definition of primary/secondary/tertiary because the object is ride on the lower grade roads having

Re: [OSM-talk] Patch to render names from routes and custom highway shields on a per country basis

2009-12-27 Per discussione Aun Johnsen
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/22 Charlie Ferrero char...@cferrero.net Ditto showing custom station symbols (e.g. the London Underground symbol, or a non-copyright version of same). It's much harder to spot a tube stop on the OSM

[OSM-talk-nl] AND data - werkelijkheid of planning?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Sybren A . Stüvel
Hallo OSM'ers, De data die we van AND hebben gekregen, reflecteert dat altijd de werkelijkheid of is een deel ook slechts planning? Mijn schoonzus woont in Middelburg in een wijk waarvan de eerste huizen in 2006 opgeleverd zijn. Er wordt nog steeds aan de wijk gebouwd. We hebben zitten zoeken

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] AND data - werkelijkheid of planning?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Lennard
Sybren A. Stüvel wrote: Denken jullie dat één GPS trace genoeg is om de data in OSM te gaan aanpassen? Of zijn er toch meerdere traces nodig om de AND en 3dshapes data te gaan tegenspreken? Jij bent zelf het beste in staat om te kunnen vaststellen dat die sloot (Mannezeesche Watergang) er

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] AND data - werkelijkheid of planning?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Sybren A . Stüvel
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 02:33:56PM +0100, Lennard wrote: Vergeet niet dat zowel de AND-data van hoogstens 2007 is, en de 3dShapes-data op veel plekken niet veel recenter zal zijn, dus bij nieuwbouwwijken tellen zelf gemaakt traces erg mee. Bedankt voor je duidelijke antwoord. Ik denk dat ik de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Nodes met source=AND

2009-12-27 Per discussione Roeland Douma
Goede morgen, De grootste hoeveelheid AND nodes zijn netjes opgeschoond. Met andere woorden Nederland ziet er nu een stuk rustiger uit in menig editor. Wat er nu gedaan? De nodes met enkel, een subset van, de volgende tags zijn omgezet naar lege nodes. nodes zonder tags dus. * source=AND *

[talk-au] Miniature Railways

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Smith
Mapped out another miniature railway today in Casino NSW and it looks like I forgot to make a request for enhancement after I mapped the last one so I filed a bug for this one: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2577 It may not really be much of an issue that the track doesn't render except

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-27 Per discussione Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: 2009/12/27 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com: Richard Colless wrote: I was trying out the latest routable OSM maps, and came across a couple of odd items. One was a roundabout where the Etrex told me to go round it in the wrong direction -

Re: [talk-au] amenity=parking in the middle of a field?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Liz
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, John Henderson wrote: Roy Wallace wrote: Anyone know what the deal is with this?: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/316607432 Probably should be the nearby rest area. I've surveyed a few campsites that had a similar attribution, and had to move them quite a

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-27 Per discussione Liz
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote: But it's just one more reason to use josm. In JOSM you can use copy and paste so I can draw one roundabout with 8 or 12 nodes then copy and paste that roundabout across where I'm working joining up nodes and ways then erasing the central crossroads

Re: [talk-au] amenity=parking in the middle of a field?

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Smith
2009/12/27 Liz ed...@billiau.net: Can anyone program a bot to pick up these rest areas and mark those without a subsequent change (ie new author) as not reviewed?? It's easy to pull data from one of the XAPI servers, eg to get all fuel locations for Australia you do this: wget

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-27 Per discussione Ross Scanlon
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:50:58 +1100 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote: But it's just one more reason to use josm. In JOSM you can use copy and paste so I can draw one roundabout with 8 or 12 nodes then copy and paste that roundabout across where I'm working

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Smith
2009/12/27 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: It would still be nice to have a tool to do it automatically or some way to scale the circle size. What annoys me about the circle tool in JOSM is the fact it doesn't really make nice looking roundabouts, and more often than not I end up merging half

[talk-au] Fwd: Re: [Osmf-talk] Results of OSMF Member Vote

2009-12-27 Per discussione Liz
---BeginMessage--- On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:31:28AM +, Matt Amos wrote: the OSMF member vote has been closed, and the results from 270 members polled** are: Thanks for the results, Matt Approved the process:132 Did not approve the process: 16 Didn't vote:

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: [Osmf-talk] Results of OSMF Member Vote

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Smith
2009/12/28 Liz ed...@billiau.net: -- Forwarded message -- From: Matija Nalis mnalis-openstreetmap-osmfl...@voyager.hr To: Matt Amos m...@asklater.com I would actually expect OSMF membership to be *more* interested in the license change issues than the average OSM contributor;

[talk-au] Custom highway shields

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Smith
This has been a niggling problem for a number of people including myself for some time now, while it was possible to due this on the fly that method doesn't really scale so I've had to come up with an alternative plan of action and I've been discussing this with a couple others on and off for the

[talk-au] Tourism routes in Australia

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Smith
I'm aware of the site listing all the highways in Australia, but does anyone know of a site or sites that list some or all of the tourism routes in Australia? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Custom highway shields

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Smith
2009/12/28 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Custom_Highway_Shields I've now listed the default highway shields for Australia but there may be some ones in other states they may need to be listed different if the shield design differs from NSW/Qld...

Re: [talk-au] amenity=parking in the middle of a field?

2009-12-27 Per discussione John Henderson
Roy Wallace wrote: Anyone know what the deal is with this?: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/316607432 Here's another one that seems out by hundreds of metres to me, and from the same source: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/316590785 Although it's been a while since I camped

Re: [Talk-de] Video-Tracking als Mapping-Hilfe

2009-12-27 Per discussione Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:56:53PM +0100, Christian Schmitt wrote: danke für die Tipps. Die Kamera von Pearl scheint mir schonmal ganz gut für einen solchen Zweck zu sein, v.a. das Preis-/ Leistungsverhältnis ist im Rahmen. Auf jeden Fall hast Du mich damit auf die richtige Fährte

Re: [Talk-de] Video-Tracking als Mapping-Hilfe

2009-12-27 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Flo, Wenn es denn HD sein soll Das würde ich nicht empfehlen. HD wird immer komprimiert aufgezeichnet. Also nur jeweils die /Änderungen/ eines Bildes zum vorherigen. Wenn Du also in Fahrt bist oder die Kamera schwenkst sind da ganz viele Änderungen zu verarbeiten. Zu vele für eine

Re: [Talk-de] Video-Tracking als Mapping-Hilfe

2009-12-27 Per discussione Florian Lohoff
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 09:49:22AM +0100, Markus wrote: Wenn es denn HD sein soll Das würde ich nicht empfehlen. HD wird immer komprimiert aufgezeichnet. Nicht schlimm. Also nur jeweils die /Änderungen/ eines Bildes zum vorherigen. Das haengt ja schwer vom verwendet codec und

[Talk-de] OSMF Ergebnis der Lizenzabstimmung ?

2009-12-27 Per discussione northc...@gmx.de
Die Abstimmung sollte ja bis zum 26. Dez. / gestern abgeschlossen sein. Gibt es ein Ergebnis? ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Potlach/Firefox/flashplugin/Ubuntu-9.10 was ist kaputt?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Joerg Fischer
Joerg 'Ingrid' Fischer wrote: passiert genau gar nichts mehr. Kann diesen Effekt jemand bestätigen oder sonst hilfreiche Hinweise geben? Lösung == Kurzfassung: gksudo gedit /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer Die Zeile: | export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 als

Re: [Talk-de] OSMF Ergebnis der Lizenzabstimmung ?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Kai Krueger
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, northc...@gmx.de wrote: Die Abstimmung sollte ja bis zum 26. Dez. / gestern abgeschlossen sein. Gibt es ein Ergebnis? Ja, heute morgen wurde das Ergebniss bekannt gegeben. 89% Stimmen waren fuer den Vorgeschlagenen Wechsel-Prozess, bei 16 Gegenstimmen und 55%

Re: [Talk-de] guidepost

2009-12-27 Per discussione Mirko Küster
Dann hast du wohl das falsche Wort verwendet. Valide heißt gültig/richtig, was du vielleicht meinst ist üblich. Ich verwende aus gutem Grund keine Wischi Waschi Umschreibungen. Wir sind teilweise auf einer Stufe wo undokumentierte Paralelentwicklungen mehr verwaschen und verwirren, die

Re: [Talk-de] Video-Tracking als Mapping-Hilfe

2009-12-27 Per discussione Florian Gross
Am So Dezember 27 2009 glaubte Sven Sommerkamp zu wissen: Ich hatte spontan an die Möglichkeit gedacht Videos an die GPS Daten zu koppeln wie bei Fotos. Es ist ja schön einen Film von der Strecke die man gefahren ist zu haben, aber dann weiß man noch nicht wo ein bestimmter Teil des Videos

Re: [Talk-de] Video-Tracking als Mapping-Hilfe

2009-12-27 Per discussione Nils Heuermann
Am Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:30:11 +0100 hat Florian Gross flor...@grossing.de geschrieben: Mit den billigen Action- Cams? Hm, weiß nicht, ob es da welche gibt, bei denen man die Uhrzeit einstellen kann. Die Sache mit der Uhrzeit würde ich nicht als Problem sehen. Man kann ja - wie man es auch

[Talk-de] Neue Aktion, 08, by Gandiii

2009-12-27 Per discussione Gary68
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Aktionen/Aktion_08 für zwischen den jahren ;-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] Ein Track lässt sich nicht markieren/b earbeiten

2009-12-27 Per discussione Lothar Emmerich
Hallo zusammen, der Waldrand mit dem Knick lässt sich nicht in JOSM 2561 markieren und bearbeiten. In JOSM ist ein anderer Walsrand zusätzlich eingetrage, erscheint aber nicht in Mapnik. Hier der Link: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.770866lon=6.496787zoom=18layers=B000FTF Wer kann

Re: [Talk-de] Neue Aktion, 08, by Gandiii

2009-12-27 Per discussione Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Gary68 schrieb: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Aktionen/Aktion_08 für zwischen den jahren Ja, hab schon 'nen Block fertig. Viele False Positive da construction als Fehler gemeldet wird. Bei jedem dritten API Aufruf über das remote-JOSM Plugin bekomme ich eine Fehlermeldung, beim

Re: [Talk-de] Ein Track lässt sich nicht markieren/b earbeiten

2009-12-27 Per discussione Lothar Emmerich
Große Entschuldigung Nach dem Hochladen der veränderten Daten hat sich das Problem von selbst erledigt. Der Waldrand ist jetzt nicht mehr zweimal vorhanden. Der nicht editierbare Track ist weg! Hoffentlich hat nicht schon jemand versucht zu helfen. Nochmals Sorry! Lodda

Re: [Talk-de] Ein Track lässt sich nicht markieren/b earbeiten

2009-12-27 Per discussione Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Lothar Emmerich schrieb: der Waldrand mit dem Knick lässt sich nicht in JOSM 2561 markieren und bearbeiten. In JOSM ist ein anderer Walsrand zusätzlich eingetrage, erscheint aber nicht in Mapnik. Hier der Link: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.770866lon=6.496787zoom=18layers=B000FTF

Re: [Talk-de] Ein Track lässt sich nicht markieren/b earbeiten

2009-12-27 Per discussione Lothar Emmerich
Hallo Chris, hat sich eben erledigt! Sorry! siehe meine zweite Mail Lodda Am 27.12.2009 um 17:53 schrieb Chris-Hein Lunkhusen: Lothar Emmerich schrieb: der Waldrand mit dem Knick lässt sich nicht in JOSM 2561 markieren und bearbeiten. In JOSM ist ein anderer Walsrand zusätzlich

Re: [Talk-de] guidepost

2009-12-27 Per discussione Ulf Lamping
Am 27.12.2009 16:18, schrieb Mirko Küster: Was danach passierte war nicht besser. Man erklräte den Tag als verbrannt und hat den path kurzerhand missbraucht, statt dem eigentlichen Tag gleich einen Zusatz für die jeweilige Richtung zu geben. Danach hat man gleich wieder designated verbrannt

Re: [Talk-de] Video-Tracking als Mapping-Hilfe

2009-12-27 Per discussione Florian Gross
Am So Dezember 27 2009 glaubte Nils Heuermann zu wissen: Am Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:30:11 +0100 hat Florian Gross flor...@grossing.de geschrieben: Mit den billigen Action- Cams? Hm, weiß nicht, ob es da welche gibt, bei denen man die Uhrzeit einstellen kann. Die Sache mit der Uhrzeit

Re: [Talk-de] guidepost

2009-12-27 Per discussione Mirko Küster
Es hat damals mindestens drei konträre cycleway Parteien gegeben, die sich klar dazu bekannt haben, was aus ihrer Sicht richtig / falsch ist. Die wurden sich dann nicht einig weil sie ja den richtigen Weg bereits wußten. Eine Einigung fand nicht statt. Von macht mal, es gibt kein Falsch löst

[Talk-de] Routing-Standards (war: Ulf-Mirko-Endlos-Diskussion)

2009-12-27 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Mirko Küster wrote: Ein Problem wäre wenn z.B. ein Routing Maintainer kommen würde und sagt, passt auf, das kommt in der Praxis bei der Auswertung der Daten zu Missverständnissen ich kann das nicht wegfiltern. [...] Ich nehme das mal als Stichwort fuer ein hierzu etwas tangentiales

[Talk-de] Unverschlüsselte OSM-Logins

2009-12-27 Per discussione Georg Lutz
Hallo zusammen, habe grad festgestellt, daß es nicht möglich ist, sich per https einzuloggen bzw. zumindest das Passwort verschlüsselt zu übertragen. Gibt Bestrebungen, da was zu ändern? Die dazugehörigen Tickets gibts ja auch schon ein paar Jahre: * http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/275 *

Re: [Talk-de] Unverschlüsselte OSM-Logins

2009-12-27 Per discussione Johann H. Addicks
Georg Lutz schrieb: Ziemlich schlecht, wenn man sich grad in einem untrusted Netz wie dem 26c3 WLAN befindet. Da ist es immer gut, wenn man ein VPN in der Tasche hat. -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Unverschlüsselte OSM-Logins

2009-12-27 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Georg Lutz wrote: habe grad festgestellt, daß es nicht möglich ist, sich per https einzuloggen bzw. zumindest das Passwort verschlüsselt zu übertragen. Gibts grad ne laengere Diskussion zu auf talk. Kurzfassung: Alles mit SSL = zuviel Stress am Server; nur Login mit SSL = macht nur

Re: [Talk-de] guidepost

2009-12-27 Per discussione Ulf Lamping
Am 27.12.2009 21:03, schrieb Mirko Küster: Und damit gut. Du hast Recht, ich meine Ruhe und die weitere Entwicklung wird sowieso abseits dieser Diskussion mit den Füßen abgestimmt... Du hast deine Meinung und läßt andere Meinungen nicht gelten, weil: unlogisch, Ansatz ist Käse, stark dafür

Re: [Talk-de] Unverschlüsselte OSM-Logins

2009-12-27 Per discussione Peter Körner
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hallo, Georg Lutz wrote: habe grad festgestellt, daß es nicht möglich ist, sich per https einzuloggen bzw. zumindest das Passwort verschlüsselt zu übertragen. Gibts grad ne laengere Diskussion zu auf talk. Kurzfassung: Alles mit SSL = zuviel Stress am Server Es

Re: [Talk-de] Routing-Standards (war: Ulf-Mirko-Endlos-Diskussion)

2009-12-27 Per discussione Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Ich bin auch gegen Entscheider. Aber das heisst ja nicht, dass man nicht gemeinsam auf gute Loesungen hinarbeiten kann. Eine Sache, die uns derzeit empfindlich fehlt, sind klare Routing-Standards, oder Interpretationsregeln fuer Routing-Engine-Schreiber. +1

Re: [Talk-de] Unverschlüsselte OSM-Logins

2009-12-27 Per discussione Johann H. Addicks
Peter Körner schrieb: Es gibt Devices, die das transparent vor dem eigentlichen Server handeln und dm Server eine fertig entschlüsselte HTTP-Verbindung präsentieren. Das Stichwort ist ssl-offloading und load balancer. Kann man alles kaufen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSL_acceleration

Re: [Talk-de] Unverschlüsselte OSM-Logins

2009-12-27 Per discussione Florian Lohoff
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:51:34PM +0100, Johann H. Addicks wrote: Peter Körner schrieb: Es gibt Devices, die das transparent vor dem eigentlichen Server handeln und dm Server eine fertig entschlüsselte HTTP-Verbindung präsentieren. Das Stichwort ist ssl-offloading und load balancer.

Re: [Talk-de] Routing-Standards (war: Ulf-Mirko-Endlos-Diskussion)

2009-12-27 Per discussione Stephan Wolff
Am 27.12.2009 21:30, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hallo, Ich nehme das mal als Stichwort fuer ein hierzu etwas tangentiales Thema. Ich bin auch gegen Entscheider. Entscheider muss nicht Diktator bedeuten. Viele Gruppen müssen regelmäßig Entscheidungen treffen. Oberster Entscheider ist bei

Re: [Talk-it] maposmatic

2009-12-27 Per discussione Gian-Paolo Pallari
Ciao, ho provato per la prima volta maposmatic e credo che il risultato sia veramente notevole. Nello stradario però non sempre viene riconosciuta la parte iniziale da mettere tra parentesi: dall'esempio che ho renderizzato vedo che mancano Via Del, Piazzetta e tutti i casi con Vicolo. C'è un modo

Re: [Talk-it] Meeting Siciliano

2009-12-27 Per discussione Luigi Toscano
Gianfranco Gliozzo wrote: Mappers Siciliani ed in Sicilia aduniamoci! Volevo approfittare della presenza per le vacanze di Tosky e Pikorr, maggiori contribuitori per Catania e Siracusa per organizzare un meeting un drink. Potremmo organizzare la location in base alle adesioni, se venissero

Re: [Talk-it] stabilimento termale

2009-12-27 Per discussione Samuele Battarra
Il venerdì 11 dicembre 2009 01:48 Luca Brivio ha scritto: David, leisure=hot_spring (usato finora 16 volte) credo sia pensato per strutture strettamente correlate a fonti termali (piscine termali, etc.). Per indicare l'intero stabilimento userei amenity=spa (usato 17 volte) o leisure=spa

Re: [Talk-it] centro congressi

2009-12-27 Per discussione Samuele Battarra
Cercando conference: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Conference_Center Nello specifico, amenity=conference_center. Quella pagina è linkata da: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rejected_features ma è da notare che è una proposta non valida solo per difetto di

Re: [Talk-it] Canile

2009-12-27 Per discussione Samuele Battarra
Il martedì 8 dicembre 2009 20:17 David Paleino ha scritto: Stavolta spunta una pagina tedesca (DE:Animal) e, cercando di tradurre, tierheim può anche significare animal home [0]. Canile sarebbe quindi: animal=shelter dog=yes name=* operator=* alla fine ho scelto un più semplice

Re: [Talk-it] Autodemolizione

2009-12-27 Per discussione Samuele Battarra
Il mercoledì 9 dicembre 2009 09:22 Simone Saviolo ha scritto: Se ti riferisci ad uno sfasciacarrozze, penso che si possa usare un auto_wrecker di cui ho letto qui: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec:_Industrial_and_commercial_areas_ (IC) Ciao, Simone ok, metto

Re: [Talk-it] Meeting Siciliano

2009-12-27 Per discussione Davide Agati
Ciao a tutti, Sono libero tutta la prox settimana ad esclusione di martedì. Io riparto il 4 (mattina presto), e se si va fuori Catania ho bisogno di un passaggio. A parte questo, sono disponibile. Anche io riparto il 4. Ortigia per me va benissimo. Da martedì in poi sono disponibilissimo.

Re: [Talk-it] Meeting Siciliano

2009-12-27 Per discussione Gianfranco Gliozzo
Per ora ho la disponibilità di 3 catanesi gmarzio che è della provincia di CT e di Pikorr da SR, se nessun altro si fa vivo penso sia più corretto pensare ad un meeting a Catania, Ortigia era per venire incontro ai Ragusani, io ho contattato tramite la wiki Powser e Kid_a ma per ora nessuna

[Talk-it] Openstreet e Ipod Touch.

2009-12-27 Per discussione griso007
Ciao a tutti. Ho acquistato un Ipod touch e ho installato l'applicativo openstreen. Funziona benissimo. Adesso però ho una domanda. Se non ho accesso alla rete, come posso scaricare le mappe OSM sull'IPOD e calcolare un percorso? sembra che questo non sia possibile. Mi potete aiutare? Grazie

Re: [Talk-co] mkgmap

2009-12-27 Per discussione eduardo kazt
-Generan mapas enrutables cada mes. Nosotros estamos en capacidad de generar mapas ruteables a diario o cuando se necesite, personalmente genero os mapas ruteables que comparto con ustedes cada que los necesito, pero podemos hacerlomas a menudo por medio de un script o cron si alguien se

[Talk-co] Saludos y Duda

2009-12-27 Per discussione Juan Camilo Hernandez D
Hola a todos. Soy nuevo en esto del proyecto OSM aunque conozco la filosofía que lo motiva desde hace muchos años ya. Me intereso inicialmente en el proyecto OSM por la necesidad de utilizar el modelo SUMO (Modelo de flujo vehicular) en el desarrollo de mi trabajo de grado. Hace ya un año realice

Re: [Talk-ar] cambien esto!!!!

2009-12-27 Per discussione marcellobil...@gmail
Hola ... yo tengo Gmail escribo en t...@openstreetmap.org talk...@openstreetmap.org talk...@openstreetmap.org y en otros ML de OSM pero ese problema que cuando contestas no manda la mail al grupo ma solo a la persona que escribio hay solo en talk-ar@openstreetmap.org Osea yo NO USO la interfaz

Re: [Talk-ar] Separar Calles?

2009-12-27 Per discussione Jorge Luis Chamorro
Aunque parezca que no tiene que ver con el tema yo me pregunto No hay algun utilitario que tome una traza de gps y la transforme acercandola a las vias y nodos de OSM como para que las coordenadas sean mas coincidentes ? (no es mi idea lei que varios GPSes hace eso) Asi a partir de esa

Re: [OSM-ja] お正月のマッピング  Yok ohama Mapping Party

2009-12-27 Per discussione ikiya
ikiyaです。 よろしくお願いします。お気軽にどうぞ。 私は見ませんでしたが、この前、ブラタモリで横浜やっていたそうで、 ちょっとドキッとしました。 ブラOSMでマイナーなスポット散策もいいかなと思いました。 大和田 健一 ml.ohw...@gmail.com wrote: お正月マッピング Yokohama Mapping Partyのお知らせです。 参加します。 横浜・戸塚在住ですが、 元町交番までは小一時間くらいかかる。 --- 大和田 健一 ___ Talk-ja

Re: [OSM-ja] 描いていて困ったなと思う 点いくつか

2009-12-27 Per discussione ribbon
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:28:49PM +0900, ISHIKAWA Sachihiro wrote: 1) フューチャーでないものがある。 岬、岩というような、特記すべき地形に対するフューチャーが見つかりませんでした。 横断歩道、あるいはペデストリアンデッキに相当するものが見つかりませんでした。 岬や岩は、、、プリセットにはなさそうですね。道祖神なんてのはあるのに。 横断歩道は、プリセットに横断歩道がありますね。道路の交点のノードに指定するようです。

Re: [OSM-ja] 描いていて困ったなと思う 点いくつか

2009-12-27 Per discussione Nahainec
Nahainec です。 (2009/12/27 23:52), ribbon wrote: 横断歩道はありましたね。ただ、横断歩道橋はありませんでした。 ただ、highway=pedestrianがあるのでこれを使おうと思います。 そうしないと、渋谷駅南口にある歩道橋のタグが変なので。 歩道橋については http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ja:Howto_Map_A と ノートが参考になるかと思います。特にノートには nazotoko さんとのやり取り で図を書きましたので。

Re: [OSM-ja] キタ━(゜∀゜) ━!!!!! ( OSM ウィンドブレーカ ー注文集計

2009-12-27 Per discussione Kimiya FUJISAWA
藤澤です。 私も無事に受け取れました! ikiyaさん、ありがとうございました。 -- @ 東京工科大学 メディア学部 メディア学科 @// @@ 専任講師 藤澤公也 @-O-O-@mailto:fujis...@media.teu.ac.jp \ ^ / TEL:042-637-2314 FAX:042-637-2790

Re: [OSM-ja] 描いていて困ったなと思う 点いくつか

2009-12-27 Per discussione Shun N. Watanabe
nazotoko の渡邊です。 2009/12/27 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp: On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:28:49PM +0900, ISHIKAWA Sachihiro wrote: 1) フューチャーでないものがある。 岬、岩というような、特記すべき地形に対するフューチャーが見つかりませんでした。 これを探すのは苦労しますね。 岬(headland) は、place=locality (とりあえず地名をつけるタグ)を使うのが一応コンセンサスらしいです。 半島には place=peninsula

Re: [OSM-ja] OSC2010 Oita

2009-12-27 Per discussione Hiroshi Miura
三浦です。 だいぶ間があいてしまいましたが、ようやく 日程が固まりました。OSC大分に参加して、店子やります。 ただし、続けて海外出張があるため、翌日曜の午後早々には、 福岡空港の国際ターミナルにつかないと行けないので、 日曜日のマッピングパーティへの参加はかないません。 よろしくおねがいします。 (2009/11/27 10:34), Hiroshi Miura wrote: 三浦です。 (2009/11/26 21:43), S.Higashi wrote: 東です。

Re: [OSM-ja] キタ━(゜∀゜) ━!!!!! ( OSM ウィンドブレーカ ー注文集計

2009-12-27 Per discussione Hiroshi Miura
三浦です。 無事3こ受け取りました。思ったより大きい。 大分OSCに持って行こうとおもいます。 希望者に頒布するもよし、イベントで着用してもらうよし。 (2009/12/28 13:16), Kimiya FUJISAWA wrote: 藤澤です。 私も無事に受け取れました! ikiyaさん、ありがとうございました。 -- Global IT Innovator __~~~ NTT DATA Group

[Talk-GB] Why using place=city for legal status is a bad idea

2009-12-27 Per discussione wynndale
A sentence was recently added to the wiki [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place] stating that the tag place=city should be used for legally defined cities in countries where such a status exists. This is superficially attractive but it gives rise to problems. The key issue is that place

Re: [Talk-GB] Why using place=city for legal status is a bad idea

2009-12-27 Per discussione Tom Chance
I remember going round the houses on this years ago. Look across a range of maps and you will see most cartographers have their own mix of criteria to determine how place names are shown. So long as we put in enough data (official status, population, administrative importance, etc.) then

Re: [Talk-GB] Why using place=city for legal status is a bad idea

2009-12-27 Per discussione Thomas Wood
Tom Chance wrote: It's interesting looking at major cities like London, where local mappers have used hamlet/village/town/place to try and (by the looks of it) estimate their importance. Regards, Tom And in the case of Croydon (a reasonably insignificant suburb), as city.