Re: [Talk-ca] GitHub app for BC2020i Challenge

It looks pretty but misses the detail in the magic step then a miracle occurs. Currently wind is the cheapest renewable energy source. Off shore works well but the central area of North America works fine. Unfortunately New York, Toronto, Montreal were all established in relatively wind free

Re: [OSM-talk] Open Location Code and Graffiti

he gatehouse, above a path that goes to the > creek". > > Pine > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:06 PM john whelan > wrote: > >> It sounds an odd combination but locally you can report Graffiti to the >> muni

[OSM-talk] Open Location Code and Graffiti

It sounds an odd combination but locally you can report Graffiti to the municipality and they arrange for it to be cleaned up by the phone company, electric company etc. The targeted electric boxes are often at the back of houses or on stretches of highway that have no houses which means

[OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

Could this be used to detect villages and towns which have not yet been mapped. If something could drop some sort of marker where it thinks a cluster of buildings are then we could use overpass to pull them into JOSM and map them as places, landuse=residential, village or whatever. Thoughts?

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

Currently if I wish to send a letter or a package to someone I send it to John Smith @ 110 main street. OLC codes replaces 110 main street but it does have limitations but John smith @ OLC code should get it close enough to be delivered. The other issue is there are just the odd one or two

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

ontinue to do that here > in talk-ca, talk-us and so on. Thank you. > > SteveA > California > > > On Aug 12, 2018, at 2:17 PM, john whelan wrote: > > > > Good heavens you mean we should spell out OCtranspo as Ottawa Carleton > Transpo in case any America

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

Good heavens you mean we should spell out OCtranspo as Ottawa Carleton Transpo in case any American tourists get confused? Unfortunately the locals will probably get confused with this and whilst we should cater to these foreign tourists I think what is on the signs locally will be less confusing

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

rks anywhere solution. Where there is better organisation for example in the alpine regions of Europe then more traditional forms of an address are to be preferred. Cheerio John On Sat, 11 Aug 2018, 7:40 pm Simon Poole, wrote: > > > Am 12.08.2018 um 01:27 schrieb john whelan: &

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

> Note my opposition, notwithstanding my general concerns about fiddling with the markets, is founded in that plus codes are just simply not very good/fit for purpose. And discounting using pure lat and long your solution would be? Thanks John On 11 August 2018 at 19:04, Simon Poole wrote: >

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

I think what is needed is an independent way to generate them from OSMand and I think that is part of the missing puzzle. Cheerio John On 11 August 2018 at 11:30, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM < blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Richard Fairhurst > wrote: > > Blake

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

What do the users in Tanzania require? Do they have access to an android smartphone? If so what is wrong with using OSMand, its free. Every building in Tanzania has a visible OLC code and its permanent so no danger it will disappear after the trial. Cheerio John On 11 August 2018 at 09:31,

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

I have two concerns about separate tags and they come from my validation experience with HOT mappers. The first is duplicate buildings. When faced with 50 duplicate buildings in a village if I'm feeling good I'll use the to do list to look at each pair and delete the one that is the one that

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

Let us just recap. Open Location Code can be used in OSMand today for anything in Openstreetmap. It both shows the OLC code and can search for the OLC code so to my mind OLC is already available in OpenStreetMap and can be used operationally today. There is no need to add additional tags to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

the lat and long from the map and converting it needs a process. Suggestions? Thanks John On Fri, 10 Aug 2018, 8:58 am john whelan, wrote: > I would agree the import should be reverted. The data is redundant and > there is a danger that it might not be correct. The pure lat and lon

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

I would agree the import should be reverted. The data is redundant and there is a danger that it might not be correct. The pure lat and long data already in OSM can be used to calculate the code. It does add weight to the idea of making them searchable perhaps with a JOSM plugin and support in

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

ags and convince everyone to >> just use lat/long. >> The ability to verbally tell someone a location like 47RP+XG >> Dar-es-Salaam is much easier than -6.85748/39.28613 >> Suspend disbelief, sometimes new things are better. >> >> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:57 PM, j

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

So if OSMand or some such could handle them in a search off line that would be acceptable? They are generated from long and lat after all. My feeling is adding them to Nominatim is not a perfect solution as it implies OpenStreetMap supports them rather than something else but from a practical

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Learning to Use Machine Learning - A learn along for folks who want to be using ML in their work.

o learning and working on these issues together. On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:02 AM john whelan wrote: > One does hope that a manual check will be part of the process? > > Thanks John > > On 9 August 2018 at 08:10, Blake Girardot wrote: > >> Dear Friends, >> >

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

So you are talking about an enhancement to Nominatim I assume? There is a process to request enhancements. Cheerio John On Thu, 9 Aug 2018, 9:35 am oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch, < oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch> wrote: > Open Location Codes are also referred to as "plus codes". Since August >

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

> I don’t get why highway=footway + area=yes is considered as wrong tagging ! The problem is consistency. If the renderers and routers don't understand your tagging then it is less visible. Cheerio John On 8 August 2018 at 08:40, djakk djakk wrote: > I don’t get why highway=footway +

Re: [OSM-talk] Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM

Just on lat long every building in OSM is labelled with its lat and long already. Cheerio John On Thu, 2 Aug 2018, 3:45 pm oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch, < oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch> wrote: > > Hi, > > I read the whole article. I agree with the author's main idea, - software > development and

Re: [OSM-talk] Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM

Lat and long work quite well. If you have a smartphone with GPS it understands lat long. It may not understand 8 letter addresses. Some combination of letters may offend. How would you space them out? Lat and long also have the advantage that addresses with a similar first part are grouped

Re: [OSM-talk] Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM

My background is big databases, XML, ISO standards and such like. The report has lots of long words but doesn't seem to grasp basic concepts well. OpenStreetMap to me has two primitives, nodes and ways. These can and are combined to create areas. They have tags attached. I honestly can't see

Re: [Talk-ca] sharrows

sorted Thanks John On 14 July 2018 at 15:18, James wrote: > https://github.com/BikeOttawa/OSM-Bike-Ottawa-Tagging-Guide/ > blob/master/README.md > > On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 2:47 PM john whelan, wrote: > >> Ottawa has been adding these on one side of the highway and a cycle

Re: [Talk-ca] sharrows

something like cycleway:forward=shared_lane, cycleway:backward=lane > > On 14 July 2018 at 20:44, john whelan wrote: > > Ottawa has been adding these on one side of the highway and a cycle lane > in > > the other. > > > > How should they be mapped? > > >

Re: [Talk-ca] sharrows

ane’ on the normal way. > > Martin Chalifoux > *E* martin.chalif...@icloud.com > *C* 514-233-9701 > > On Jul 14, 2018, at 14:44, john whelan wrote: > > Ottawa has been adding these on one side of the highway and a cycle lane > in the other. > > How should they be mapp

[Talk-ca] sharrows

Ottawa has been adding these on one side of the highway and a cycle lane in the other. How should they be mapped? ​Specifically how do you map the pure cycle lane in one direction and the Sharrow in the other? Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list

[Talk-ca] Help please in Ottawa on bike repair stations

The city has been adding a fair number of these recently. I've added a few to the map locally but I feel we are missing some. The city has the locations listed here:

[Talk-ca] Building Canada 2020 (BC2020i) Microsoft has released 120, 000, 000 building outlines for the US

I'm not sure what the implications are but hopefully they'll do Canada soon. OSM-weekly. Cheerio John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [OSM-talk] finding settlements where the highways do connect across the settlement

I connect them as I come across them I just wondered if anyone had a magic spell to find them? Thanks John On 4 July 2018 at 13:33, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On Wed, July 4, 2018 6:12 pm, john whelan wrote: > > I'm using JOSM and find unconnected highways is useful but in A

[OSM-talk] finding settlements where the highways do connect across the settlement

I'm using JOSM and find unconnected highways is useful but in Africa I'm seeing a number of settlements that have highways entering on both sides but nothing connecting them which poses problems for routing software. Any suggestions? Thanks John ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

Low quality building mapping is pretty general in Africa, I mentioned Malawi still has some 4,805 duplicate buildings in the HOT mailing list very recently which as a percentage of the buildings mapped is probably fairly low but is still a concern. The problem is one of data quality, is OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving building=building to building=yes

My view is probably along the lines of as OSM matures using more standardized tags will make it easier to extract meaningful data from OSM mapping. Having said that we still need the flexibility to use new tags. That Building=building should be replaced by building=yes is fairly obvious some

Re: [OSM-talk] Remote Sensing / DOP / DIY people

I think one problem with drones is they need special permission or there are rules about who and where they can be operated in many parts of the world. Some are capable of cm accuracy but does OpenStreetMap benefit from this? Cheerio John On 1 June 2018 at 05:26, James wrote: > Still cant

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i and Wikidata

I think it depends on what you are trying to do. There are two parts to BC2020i the first is map the buildings the second is enrich the buildings with tags. The first part can be done best by importing Open Data if the licenses align and at the moment few do and of those that do not all have

Re: [OSM-talk] Android program with a custom map style

OSMand certainly supports cyclists in routing. OSM can hold the information you are after. I'd have a look at what is there first. If it isn't then there are quite a few people who might be interested so I wonder if it could be incorporated in some way. Cheerio John On 6 May 2018 at 10:45,

[OSM-talk] any local mappers for Mauritania floating round?

About five years ago one mapper appears to have mapped many thousand street blocks as buildings. Then in 2016/10 another mapper has come along and removed the tags of roughly 10,000 of these so they are currently untagged. There are still 14,000 plus buildings tagged by the original mapper.

Re: [Talk-ca] Question

Post codes are put in one at a time. They aren't all there. If you could help clean them up that would be useful. Zip codes are different and belong in Donald's land. Cheerio John On Fri, 27 Apr 2018, 5:01 pm Pier Luc, wrote: > Hello, I live in Quebec City. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

I think Fredrick's comments have merit. We know a lot about what works so writing code to rewrite it if need be would not be too great an effort. Cheerio John On 22 April 2018 at 16:06, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > JAVA started as a SUN product. It is now an Oracle pr

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

eers, > Jan "Piskvor" Martinec > > Dne ne 22. 4. 2018 21:05 uživatel john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > napsal: > >> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html >> >> It needs to be translated into English. For example Long Term Support &

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

every 3 years - the current Java 8 was released Sept 2017 so December 2020 will be the end of a three year LTS cycle. " Cheerio John On 22 April 2018 at 14:40, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 14:26:13 -0400 > john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.

[OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

Fewer applications are using JAVA and it looks as if Oracle is withdrawing from JAVA. It was originally developed by SUN who were taken over by Oracle. Someone who worked at Oracle has mentioned Oracle would like to be out of JAVA by 2020 and that is the date for individual free licenses to

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #403 2018-04-03-2018-04-09

Is there an English translation available? Thanks John On 13 April 2018 at 13:51, weeklyteam wrote: > The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 403, > is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all > things happening in the openstreetmap world: >

Re: [OSM-talk] Villages with no highways

2018 16:34 Frederik Ramm, <frede...@remote.org> wrote: > Hi, > > On 04/08/2018 10:16 PM, john whelan wrote: > > If you look in parts of Africa there are a number of villages on the map > > but no connecting highways. Bing imagery is available for many of them > > tha

[OSM-talk] Villages with no highways

If you look in parts of Africa there are a number of villages on the map but no connecting highways. Bing imagery is available for many of them that show highways that connect them. Is there an easy way to pick them out? Thanks John ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] QA bots commenting on changesets - your thoughts?

> * do not message the same person twice about the same kind of problem and I would support this. The other problem is how recent was the mapping. If its more than a week old they may have corrected the way they work after it had been brought to their attention by another mapper. Cheerio John

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Open Data and Data Mirroring

Data licensing issues are best dealt with on osm talk mailing list talk@ openstreetmap.org. talk-ca has no authority over them. Governments are not a single entity. In Ottawa there are at least three parts of the City that handle geo data. They are not in sync. OpenStreetMap in general is

Re: [Talk-ca] Trans-Canada Highway research

Locally we call it the 417 and my understanding is local names are used in OSM. You can use alternative names but to me trans canada highway is a collection of local roads paid for locally. Cheerio John On 26 March 2018 at 11:45, Viajero Perdido < viajero.perdido.spam.buc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

So one way would be to teach a subset of JOSM? I had Carlton mapathon with new mappers do building outlines in JOSM, its very simple, fast and accurate a much better tool than iD for building outlines. However it does need JAVA on the machine and a few minutes set up. Question to Jonathon who

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020#The_data_that_could_be_mapped It's a bit understated but adding the type of building terrace, detached etc and the number of stories is of great interest. House numbers as well if not present. This is all boots on the

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

Is there a browser that works? Thanks John On 23 March 2018 at 11:20, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > tested on ff, same issue boundary box no longer shows > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 11:18 AM john whelan, <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> So firefox wo

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 Calgary Challenges and Best Practices

So firefox would be fine? Thanks John On 23 March 2018 at 11:12, James wrote: > depends if you are using chrome or not, seems like a mixed content > error(tm is http and osm is https) chrome now blocks mixed content. > > Last time I tried to enable HTTPS on TM2 it broke

[Talk-ca] Tagging buildings a detached house with a granny flat

Over the garage. Any suggestions? Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Poorly drawn buildings #GEOG231-W18; #BC2020; #UCalgary-GEOG231; #BC2020-UCalgary

each > other. Eg duplicates. Using ID editor. There appears to be an ongoing > problem here. > On 2018-03-19 10:53 AM, john whelan wrote: > > I think Pierre has already identified the problem some time ago and it has > been raised with Stat Can and others who are involved with B

Re: [Talk-ca] Poorly drawn buildings #GEOG231-W18; #BC2020; #UCalgary-GEOG231; #BC2020-UCalgary

I think Pierre has already identified the problem some time ago and it has been raised with Stat Can and others who are involved with BC2020 not that anyone admits to being responsible for BC2020 and Geoweek. So hopefully we won't be adding more low quality buildings. Cheerio John On 19 March

Re: [OSM-talk] Unify Mapping and wiki accounts? -- WAS: Vote cheating?

Sounds sensible. Cheerio John On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 16:04 Andrew Hain, wrote: > Interesting idea. The wiki dates from before OAuth of course, even before > the fiddle we implemented for trac and the forum. It must be just about the > only internal communication space

Re: [OSM-talk] Vote cheating?

<md...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > You probably have to check the logfiles. Not sure if you can do this from > within the wiki. > > Maarten > > > On 2018-03-16 12:38, john whelan wrote: > >> But how would you check this? >> >> Thanks John >> >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Vote cheating?

But how would you check this? Thanks John On 16 March 2018 at 07:31, Maarten Deen wrote: > That is a different matter. This is about the possibility that on person > makes multiple wiki accunts and use those to vote (thereby cheating the > vote). > > I think it would be a good

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

d'objets à > corriger un peu comme le fait Osmose et autres outils de QA. > > > Pierre > > > Le samedi 10 mars 2018 13:53:35 HNE, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > a écrit : > > > For Ontario I would suggest following the post office guidelines for

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

For Ontario I would suggest following the post office guidelines for province and using ON rather than a mixture of ON and Ontario. That way it makes it easier to find an address since you just need to search for ON. Currently you would need to search for both variations. Cheerio John On 8 Mar

Re: [Talk-ca] Emergency Request for Tasking Manager Trainer

Friday, March 9, 2018 11:02 AM > *To: *Jonathan Brown <jonab...@gmail.com> > *Cc: *john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>; Matthew Darwin > <matt...@mdarwin.ca>; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>; Rob > Halko <rob.ha...@durham.ca>; Brock B

Re: [Talk-ca] Emergency Request for Tasking Manager Trainer

I think Matthew or James are the people to talk to. I suspect it might take them an hour or so which means there is an excellent chance of it being made available before March 29th. Cheerio John On 8 Mar 2018 2:04 pm, "Jonathan Brown" wrote: > If we could clone the

Re: [Talk-ca] Emergency Request for Tasking Manager Trainer

The most useful thing you could do is add tags to the existing buildings. Levels, is it residential, commercial etc. I take it you've looked at http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/91 and found it wasn't what you were after? The area that is tiled can be set up in another project. What do you

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Footprint Upload to OSM

>> In the past the local variants of the OGL Canada have varied widely >> and have in some cases included additional terms that have made them >> incompatible with the ODbL and in some instances non-open. For this >> reason we are not making a blanket statement on other such localised >> versions

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Footprint Upload to OSM

rnment-licence-canada? > > > > Rob > > > > *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:22 PM > *To:* Rob Halko <rob.ha...@durham.ca> > *Cc:* impo...@openstreetmap.org; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org; Jonathan > Brown <jo

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Footprint Upload to OSM

I was involved in getting the Ottawa Open Data building outlines into OSM working with Stats Canada. Based on that experience you need to go through some steps.. Step one concerns the license. Regional Municipality of Durham open data license almost certainly has not been approved by the LWG.

Re: [Talk-ca] Brandon licensing

tewart C. Russell" <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2018-03-03 11:59 AM, john whelan wrote: > > > > I assume you're not Canadian. > > Umm, Steve is one of the longest-standing Canadian OSM contributors. I > think he's the admin of talk-ca too … > > > All data

Re: [Talk-ca] Brandon licensing

eve Singer <st...@ssinger.info> wrote: > On Sat, 3 Mar 2018, john whelan wrote: > > > This brings me to the conclusion after all these discussions something >> similar to what SteveA-2009 mentioned. >> Instead of having OSM conform to these licenses, would be be ab

[Talk-ca] Brandon licensing

..@openstreetmap.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Talk-ca digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work >>

[Talk-ca] Building_Canada_2020

The wiki talks about grand ideas. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020 But what it doesn't do is give examples of how to enrich the building outlines. When I spoke to Stats Canada it was the enrichment that was the most valuable How many churches are

Re: [Talk-ca] Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work

Looking at Brandon in OpenStreetMap many buildings are mapped but there isn't much detail. Stats was after things like the number of levels, house number, street name, is the building commerical, residential, apartment. There are some 70 or 80 different tags used for buildings in taginfo. At

Re: [Talk-ca] Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work

or not and ensure they are mapped before your event. Cheerio John On 28 February 2018 at 19:26, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > If I look at OpenStreetMap at Brandon there seems to be most buildings > have been mapped. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?quer

Re: [Talk-ca] Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work

If I look at OpenStreetMap at Brandon there seems to be most buildings have been mapped. https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Brandon%20canada#map=14/49.8381/-99.9503 They don't align perfectly with Bing but they aren't too bad. If you ask nicely someone could pick them up and move them

Re: [Talk-ca] Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work

Similar to does not mean the same unless it is the TB Open Data license but I suspect it predates that one. Given that Stats Canada has said it will make the data available through the Federal Government's Open Data portal real soon now I suspect that an email from the city even to yourself would

Re: [OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

nside a browser are the problem. And that's blocked > by browsers nowadays. > > I don't understand why this is relevant to the original discussion > though... > > -- > Nicolás > > 2018-02-17 15:27 GMT-03:00 john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>: > > The JAVA issue

Re: [OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

The JAVA issue comes up as many use work machines and since JAVA has been identified by the US government as a security risk some time ago many organisations do not permit it's installation on their equipment. Which means in simple terms you can't use the building_tool plugin when mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

the code is clean and reliable? I don't think there is anyone looking at these sort of things. Cheerio John On 17 February 2018 at 09:45, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:53 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> P

Re: [OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

I think there are some valid points but change is hard and needs a lot more resources than we have available at the moment. HOT has a validation process but if you look at their projects its rarely used and when it is a new mapper has been permitted to validate. OSM has come as far as it has

Re: [OSM-talk] AI With Satellite Images for OpenStreetMap

My personal reaction is this is frightening. Already we have buildings mapped twice and unless the import is done very very carefully I can see problems ahead. AI and imagery isn't perfect. Throw in LiDAR or different frequency imagery and it might get a little more accurate. Still having said

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i OSM Distributed Model and Education

There are a lot of resources available. The tool you use in many ways doesn't matter too much when you are explaining. ARCgis format can be converted to .OSM format. All the GIS tools use the same basic idea of nodes and ways. Some use layers, OSM just bungs it all in together. There are

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i OSM Distributed Model and Education

I think we need to identify the possible problem areas and those things that would be useful to the students. Not all students will have the same needs. The first is we really want to avoid students tracing building outlines in iD. Experience has shown they aren't very good at it. JOSM and the

Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints.

esources Canada / Government of Canada > > pierre.gra...@canada.ca / Tel. 819-564-5600, x246 <(819)%20564-5600> > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Pierre Béland [mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr] > *Sent:* January 29, 2018 4:54 PM > *To:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <

Re: [Talk-ca] Buildings in Montreal

t; these lines. It would almost be quicker to process the LIDAR and extract > buildings from that > > That map is useful for spotting missing buildings > > On Jan 30, 2018 4:43 PM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks so I can see areas wi

Re: [Talk-ca] Buildings in Montreal

> 3) We're not lacking interest. We would very much love to see this data in the database. What we're missing is manpower. Doing an automated import would be quite arduous. We're not sure where to start in order to take the dwg data and automatically reconstruct closed polygons that correspond to

Re: [Talk-ca] Buildings in Montreal

18 8:34 AM, "James" <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > they seem to only have addresses and lidar. > > On Jan 30, 2018 8:30 AM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > But do they have a buildings outline file? > > Thanks John > >

Re: [Talk-ca] Buildings in Montreal

018 8:34 AM, "James" <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > they seem to only have addresses and lidar. > > On Jan 30, 2018 8:30 AM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> But do they have a buildings outline file? >> >> Thanks

Re: [Talk-ca] Buildings in Montreal

/ > (scroll down) > > On Jan 30, 2018 6:57 AM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Since Montreal would appear to have an acceptable licence and Open Data >> does it have a building outline file that technically could be imported? >> &

[Talk-ca] Buildings in Montreal

Since Montreal would appear to have an acceptable licence and Open Data does it have a building outline file that technically could be imported? The second part would be does it have local mappers who would be willing to support such an import? On the more technical side I would imagine it would

Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints.

and I think I agree with Pierre the best approach would be to do it a step at a time using experienced local resources. We do need to engage with high schools and the Universities but it is difficult with the resources available. There is some material available

Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints.

​The idea behind the building project is good. Basically you need a mixture of accurate building outlines and tags. From there the statisticians can work their magic. This is true in Canada as well as other parts of the world. With OSM buildings and tags combined with open source stats

Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints.

mi-automatisés facilitant dans JOSM par > exemple le tracé d'immeubles, routes, cours d'eau, etc. Pour un cours d'eau > par exemple, je déplace le curseur de la souris, et les contours et le > centre de la rivière sont tracés automatiquement. Ou encore le contour d'un > l

[Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints.

· *NRCan is working on a methodology to extract building footprints, including topographic elevation and height attributes, from LiDAR* *Traditionally OSM has not been happy with this sort of thing. The accuracy can be poor.* *We probably need to think about this since the BC2020i project

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 project

here. > > Regards, > SteveA > > > On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:47 PM, Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca> wrote: > > > > Inline > > On 2018-01-28 07:38 PM, john whelan wrote: > >> We have lots of people talking about this. > > > > Yay! > >

[Talk-ca] BC2020 project

We have lots of people talking about this. We have a wiki page somewhere that covers some ground. Could someone remind me of the address? Do we have anyone willing to project manage this? It is a very big project with lots of aspects and complications to it. Do we have a list of attributes

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020, CanVec and Licensing Issue

We were very lucky in having some of the CANVEC people involved with OSM > and they made it easy to pull the data into OSM. I'm not sure what the > current state is but I think most of the highways have now been imported. > The level of detail is different depending on the provincial source and a

Re: [Talk-ca] A bit of an ambiguity from here

There re two stages to the building project. The first is to get the building outlines. The local cities basically have this information anyway. The second step is to enrich these with tags giving the number of levels, the type, etc. I forget the full list of of attributes. Once you have that

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

censing issue and how this is a barrier to crowdsourcing and citizen > science, something that they are keen on embracing. It would be good to > show them a working example. Has the BC2020i OSM data been integrated into > the Ottawa Open Data Portal? > > > > Jonathan > > &g

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

and their > community partners that want to participate in a BC2020i OSM project. My > contact over there is Alannah Hilt (see bio at go-opendata.ca/speaker/ > alannah-hilt/). Connie, since Niagara Region in number 9 on the list of > the top 20 Open Data leaders, is there anything you t

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

licensing issue and how this is a barrier to crowdsourcing and citizen > science, something that they are keen on embracing. It would be good to > show them a working example. Has the BC2020i OSM data been integrated into > the Ottawa Open Data Portal? > > > > Jonathan >

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

If you map from Bing imagery there is no issue. If you do map from Bing please use the building_tool plugin in JOSM. We tend to find new mappers using iD are not very accurate. If the city has an Open Data file of the building outlines then it must be available under a licence that

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