Re: [Talk-cl] Normas para etiquetado de caminos en OSM

Gracias Cristián por tu aporte, muy acertado lo que escribiste. Es una pregunta que dejé planteada hace unos días atrás, sobre cuál es el objetivo de la etiqueta highway=* y es ahí donde debería enfocarse realmente la discusión. De lo que puede leerse la wiki esta etiqueta debe revelar la

Re: [Talk-cz] osmap.cz: Tur. trasa zobrazovaná tam, kde není ani v datech

Divné, divné. Trasy se už obnovily (změny co jsem dělal v sobotu tam už jsou), v datech na téhle ulici žádné relace nejsou, ale stejně se tam zobrazuje modrá a žlutá. Petře, můžeš se na to prosím kouknout? https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=17/49.02545/14.48029=dKAGB

Re: [Talk-cz] prehled tras ve Wiki

Tak v tom případě buď podle barev, nebo třeba podle oblastí, případně čísel - 0-100, 101 - 201... Marián -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Petr Holub Komu: 'OpenStreetMap Czech Republic' Datum: 4. 10. 2016 6:47:47 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz]

Re: [Talk-cz] prehled tras ve Wiki

> Tohle je nekolik let stary "problem" s omezenim mnozstvi templatena strance. > > je nutno tu stranku rozdelit. > > > co takhle to rozdělit na podstránky? Třeba dle typu? Hiking/Ski/Cyklo/Horse? A jak - protoze tohle se v podstate tyka jen tras hiking. Cyklo uz vydelene jsou, ski a horse bude

Re: [Talk-cl] Normas para etiquetado de caminos en OSM

Estoy de acuerdo en gran parte con Cristián. Es evidente que los objetivos de Vialidad (la repartición del Estado, por eso con mayúscula) no tienen por qué ser los mismos de OSM. Por ello viene lo que tiene que ver con el objetivo específico de la etiqueta highway=*, que ya se dijo que es sólo

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OpenStreetMap meeting in Bruxelles on Octobre, 18

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Bessières, Marc wrote: > a meetup for an OSM meeting in BXL on October, 18 > > http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/234599761/ > > Everybody is welcome! Spread the word! good initiative, we should start adding our meetus

Re: [OSM-talk] Local guidance for finding places (Insarro, Ethiopia..)

On 04-Oct-16 10:23 AM, Ben Discoe wrote: There is a popular local restaurant which says on its website, "Many ingredients and spices are brought directly from the town of Enssaro in Ethiopia" Curious, I looked for this town in OpenStreetMap. Nothing exists with that spelling, Ask at the

[OSM-talk] Local guidance for finding places (Insarro, Ethiopia..)

There is a popular local restaurant which says on its website, "Many ingredients and spices are brought directly from the town of Enssaro in Ethiopia" Curious, I looked for this town in OpenStreetMap. Nothing exists with that spelling, but a similar spelling "Insarro" gives a single node

[Talk-cz] Historie OSM u nás

Ahoj, chystám si přednášky na letošní LinuxDays (už tento víkend :-O ). Jednu jsem chytře nazval "OpenStreetMap včera, dnes a zítra". Historickou část jsem rozdělil na OSM obecně a OSM CZ. Milníky pro OSM jsem bez problémů vybral z wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/History_of_OpenStreetMap

Re: [Talk-cl] Normas para etiquetado de caminos en OSM

Lo malo de mi planteamiento es que habla de los objetivos pero no hay ninguna propuesta concreta... ___ Talk-cl mailing list Talk-cl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cl

Re: [Talk-cl] Normas para etiquetado de caminos en OSM

He leído todas las propuestas, y concuerdo mucho con el último planteamiento expuesto por Cristián Serpell. Saludos I.A. El 3 de octubre de 2016, 17:04, Cristián Serpell escribió: > He leído las distintas opiniones y creo entender un problema de fondo en > las distintas

[OSM-talk-be] OpenStreetMap meeting in Bruxelles on Octobre, 18

Hello, I've just created a meetup for an OSM meeting in BXL on October, 18 http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/234599761/ Everybody is welcome! Spread the word! Cheers, Marc ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Meine letzten Edits

Vielen Dank, >Soweit rauszoomen, bis du die ganze Welt oder aber zumindest den Ausschnitt >siehst funktioniert. So einfach, das wär mir nie eingefallen Beste Grüße Michael ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] No FHRS data on a food establishment

On 03/10/16 15:50, SK53 wrote: I've just added details for a pub where I stopped for a drink on Saturday. It obviously had about half of it's floor area given over to a dining room. It doesn't appear in the FHRS data. It would still need to register as a food business even if it was only a

Re: [Talk-cz] Čísla železničních stanic

Ahoj, referenční čísla je třeba rozlišovat, pro UIC se používá uic_ref, pro číslo dle SŽDC railway:ref. Oboje může být přímo na bodech railway=station/halt. Píšu z mobilu, jinak bys sem dal i odkazy. Michal 3. října 2016 14:53:06 CEST, jzvc napsal: >Dne 3.10.2016 v 14:07

[OSM-co] #MapatónXLaGuajira

Estimada comunidad: gracias a la suerte el Huracán Matthew tuvo un impacto de Tormenta Tropical en las costas de la península de La Guajira, se reportan daños en edificaciones, inundaciones y un deceso. Sigamos apoyando a La Guajira, tenemos proyectos de agua y dos (2) en Manaure, la zona más

Re: [OSM-co] Embeber mapa de OSM en página web

Hola Oscar Buenos Dias: otra opcion similar a la que sugiere Yesid es Openlayers[1], Es un poco mas grande pero tambien ofrece muchas mas opciones, tanto leaflet como openlayers son librerias javascript. Una opcion no libre pero con posibilidades si u pagina es de acceso gratuito es MapBox[2]

Re: [Talk-dk] Sammendrag af Talk-dk, Vol 88, Udgave 3

opdage stier i skove fx. >> >> >> >> Det andet laget er overflade dvs sige det viser fx bygninger, træer, >> buske, mure, hække osv højde korrekturer i landskabet (dog ikke >> el-ledninger som er fjernet) i 40X40 cm - Det lag har jeg kaldt >> "Geodatastyrelsen Overflade Skyggekort (40 cm)"

[OSM-co] Embeber mapa de OSM en página web

Hola comunidad, nos llega este mensaje al blog de OSM Colombia, quien por favor puede dar una orientación a Óscar? Saludos, Humberto Yances name oscar email micabo...@hotmail.com phone 8892055 message Solicitud de apoyo para implementar un mapa de open street map en mi pagina. Donde puedo

Re: [OSM-co] Embeber mapa de OSM en página web

Hola Oscar. Puedes usar leaflet alojado en un servidor externo para que pongas tu mapa en cualquier página. Aquí un ejemplo: http://leafletjs.com/examples/quick-start/ -- *Yesid Carrillo* ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-dk] Sammendrag af Talk-dk, Vol 88, Udgave 3

> skovområder hvor man ikke på det sædvanlige luftfoto kan se (eller meget > svært ved) disse. > > > > Med venlig hilsen > > Søren Johannessen > > > > > ​ > > > > ___ > Talk-dk mailing list > Talk-dk@op

Re: [Talk-de] Meine letzten Edits

Hallo Michael, overpass-Turbo nimmt (nach meinem letzten Stand) den sichtbaren Kartenausschnitt automatisch als Bounding-Box an. Wenn du da also nur einen Ausschnitt anzeigst, in dem es keine entsprechenden Änderungen gibt, kommt von overpass-turbo nichts zurück. Soweit rauszoomen, bis du die

Re: [Talk-cz] OSM na konferenci OpenAlt? | 5.-6. listopadu | Brno

Mirku, díky! A do podmínek bych dal - "vyšlápnuté pohorky a rozcestník sebou" :-D Čerstvá zpráva - Missing Maps na Altu budou! Před chvílí jsme si na to s Janem Höhmem kývli. Rámec bude klasický tj. přednáška uvádějící do projektu (při troše štěstí též o konkrétní práci v terénu) + praktický

Re: [Talk-de] Meine letzten Edits

Hallo, ich bekomme von https://overpass-turbo.eu/ Rückmeldungen "Diese Karte ist leer (received empty dataset)", nachdem ich eine der beiden Abfragen (s.u.)dorthin kopiere und "Ausführen" klicke. Wo ist mein Fehler? Danke. Michael Abfrage gmbo / Gisbert: > [timeout:80]; > // Datum ggf.

[Talk-GB] No FHRS data on a food establishment

I've just added details for a pub where I stopped for a drink on Saturday. It obviously had about half of it's floor area given over to a dining room. It doesn't appear in the FHRS data. Reasons why might be: - The local council only updates the main database relatively infrequently

Re: [Talk-GB] taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk down?

Shaun MacDonald at ITO; not on IRC atm On 3 October 2016 at 14:34, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) < robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is it just me, or is http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/ currently > not working? It's been unresponsive for me for at least the last > couple of days. Does

Re: [Talk-GB] taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk down?

Hi Robert, I'd seen the alert that it was down at the weekend, however wasn't in a position at the time to get to a computer and fix it. I've now rebooted the machine and it's back. Thanks for the reminder to look into it. Shaun > On 3 Oct 2016, at 14:34, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) >

[Talk-es] Reunión virtual martes 4-10-16 a 22:00h en riot.im

Hola, Os recuerdo que hemos quedado virtualmente mañana martes día 4 a las 22:00 para seguir debatiendo los temas en torno a la reactivación de la asociación OSM España y dinamización de la comunidad. El lugar para llevar a cabo la reunión es la sala de riot.im creada para tal efecto [0] , que

[Talk-GB] taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk down?

Is it just me, or is http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/ currently not working? It's been unresponsive for me for at least the last couple of days. Does anyone know who runs this instance and how to get in touch with them? Robert. -- Robert Whittaker

Re: [Talk-cz] nahrávání rozcestníků přes old.openstreetmap.cz

2016-09-29 7:31 GMT+02:00 Zdeněk Pražák : > aha, to mne nenapadlo, že již může existovat fotka se stejným názvem. > > přsto nešlo by to nějak při nahrávání vyřešit - např. že by se porovnaly > souřadnice a pokud by nebyly stejné tak by se při nahrání přidal nějaký > rozlišovač

Re: [OSM-ja] 週刊OSM323号の紹介

私は「クラフトマッパー」の役割は時代とともに変わっても、その重要性は変わらないと思っています。 OSMが始まったころ、クラフトマッパーの主な役割はGPS機器を手に真っ白な地図上に道を描いていくことだったと思います。(私はまだOSMに参加していない時期なので想像ですが) ですが道路があるていど整備された現在ではその役割は変わり、POIの登録などに重点が置かれているように思います。

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

I'd really strongly disagree here. Getting address data into OSM is important; the shop/amenity stuff is the sugar which coats that pill. In 5 years time (see my figures) many of the fhrs:id will have disappeared from the website. Jerry On 3 October 2016 at 13:13, Dave F

Re: [Talk-cz] prehled tras ve Wiki

Tohle je nekolik let stary "problem" s omezenim mnozstvi templatena strance. je nutno tu stranku rozdelit. 2016-10-03 9:22 GMT+02:00 Marián Kyral : > Ahoj, > co takhle to rozdělit na podstránky? Třeba dle typu? Hiking/Ski/Cyklo/Horse? > > Marián > > -- Původní zpráva

Re: [Talk-cz] Čísla železničních stanic

Dne 3.10.2016 v 14:07 Jethro napsal(a): Zdar, diky za info, mam k tomu 1) A co brani to ted importovat jako ref, aby se to dalo pouzivat, a postupne to premigrovat na relace, az budou data (nastupiste, body zastaveni, ...) 2) Kde se vzalo to XML, co pises? Je to nekde verejne dostupne pod

[Talk-cat] Aplicació per utilitzar els mapes 1:25000 de l'ICGC amb el mòbil off-line

Joguina nova: L'institut cartogràfic ha desenvolupat una app per iOS i Android que permet utilitzar els mapes 1:25.000 al mòbil sense connexió de dades, emmagatzemat a la SD. L'acabo de trobar i encara no l'he provat ...

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

For some time I have personally been extending the not:name tag to record these type of errors/mismatches. Usually I do something like not:external_source:tag_name, thus original not:names would become something like not:oslocation:name=XXX. These are a) useful for other mappers (primary use

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Talk-gb-westmidlands Digest, Vol 96, Issue 1

Hi all Is the meeting at The Bull in Price Street? Thanks Andrew > On 3 Oct 2016, at 13:00, talk-gb-westmidlands-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: > > Send Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list submissions to > talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the

Re: [Talk-GB] Changeover for Quarterly Projects

On 30/09/2016 16:45, Brian Prangle wrote: 3. There are over 19,000 place=farm tags, almost all of them (>18,000) nodes. Mostly they seem to indicate farms but sometimes they get used too enthusiastically for any group of buildings. This is a misuse of this tag. place=farm *is* for a

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

For me, fhrs:id is obviously needed. ATM I'm only adding 'website' as an additional tag. From that an end user can ascertain info such as an establishments address & the services it provides. Adding full addresses is something I might get around to doing later id there not anything more

Re: [Talk-cz] Čísla železničních stanic

Zdar, diky za info, mam k tomu 1) A co brani to ted importovat jako ref, aby se to dalo pouzivat, a postupne to premigrovat na relace, az budou data (nastupiste, body zastaveni, ...) 2) Kde se vzalo to XML, co pises? Je to nekde verejne dostupne pod spravnou licenci, aby se z toho dalo cerpat?

Re: [Talk-it] [wikimedia-it] via romea germanica

Da https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map Truthful - means that you cannot contribute something you have invented. Legal - means that you don't copy copyrighted data without permission. Verifiable - means that others can go there and see for themselves if your data is correct. Relevant -

[Talk-cz] Vrstevnice planety

Ahoj, rád bych si v JOSM zapnul pruhlednou vrtsvu TMS/WMS vrstevnic s pokrytím celého světa, aby se mi lépe mapovalo v HOT mapping. Zatím používám TMS opentopomap.org jenže tam je s vrstevnicemi i reliéf a tudíž TMS není průhledná. Nějaký tip? Díky hanoj

Re: [Talk-it] [wikimedia-it] via romea germanica

2016-10-03 13:03 GMT+02:00 Mauro Costantini : > È un percorso nuovo? start_date=* > È inventata da qualcuno? operator=Associazione via romea germanica > Ha un sito dove reperire ulteriori info? website=* > Ha una pagina wikipedia? Spero di sì, wikipedia=it:* >

Re: [Talk-it] [wikimedia-it] via romea germanica

Vado controcorrente. Sono informazioni utili (per far crescere, nel senso di migliorare passo dopo passo osm, e nel senso di attrarrre nuovi utenti) e abbiamo tutti gli strumenti per inserirla, non necessariamente devono esserci signposts on the ground. È un percorso nuovo? start_date=* È

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

On 03/10/16 11:17, Jez Nicholson wrote: > I was about to say that the data has a good chance of fairly high > accuracy because it is generated from an active processthen I found > my first typo > :) http://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/en-GB/803334/ "Longhill Hight > School". We can of course

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] October meeting on Wednesday

Fingers crossed I’ll be there Cheers Andy From: Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 October 2016 15:37 To: talk-gb-westmidlands Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] October meeting on Wednesday Hi all, Don't forget that we are meeting on Wednesday back in

Re: [Talk-it] ancora su civici e POI

2016-10-03 12:11 GMT+02:00 Mauro Costantini : > Io farei così: > > ... > > [node0] //facente parte del bulding e connesso alla viabilità pedonale > entrance=* > [/node0] > allora ti perdi la posizione del civico - oppure come fai a capire il civico di questo

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

I was about to say that the data has a good chance of fairly high accuracy because it is generated from an active processthen I found my first typo :) http://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/en-GB/803334/ "Longhill Hight School". We can of course perform a service by reporting typos back. On Mon,

Re: [Talk-it] ancora su civici e POI

Il 2 ottobre 2016 23:59, Fra Mauro ha scritto: >>> Come fate invece se avete più POI allo stesso civico? >>> Ad esempio un palazzo di uffici con un'unica entrata a cui corrispondono >>> uno studio medico, una società finanziaria e una assicurazione, tutti al >>> civico di

Re: [Talk-it] ancora su civici e POI

2016-10-03 11:41 GMT+02:00 Federico Cortese : > Vedo che siete in linea sul mappare a "spanne" il perimetro > dell'attività e capisco che idealmente sarebbe il metodo più > funzionale, ma io non mi sento di tracciare un poligono così > arbitrario, perchè privo di una fonte

Re: [Talk-it] ancora su civici e POI

2016-10-02 8:11 GMT+02:00 Aury88 : > > io fino ad ora ho mappato come area i locale (in manier spannometrica se non > conosco le dimensioni...nel caso aggiungo un tag fixme=*), mettendo i tag > addr:* perchè il locale ha ufficialmente un indirizzo associato. 2016-10-03

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

On 3 October 2016 at 10:07, Brian Prangle wrote: > Hi John > > The need for two sources of information is a only personal preference of > SK53. You can choose to follow it or not. > > Certainly we'd like to increase postcode and address data and this can be > entered from the

[OSM-talk-nl] Aankondiging mini-seminar RD en Open Source Software

Hoi, Wellicht is dit voor een aantal van jullie ook interessant, ondanks dat je niet op de OSGeo-mailinglijst zit. De aanleiding is een recente discussie (zie [1]) over de juiste RD-parameters. Op donderdag 20 oktober a.s. organiseert OSGeo.nl het mini-seminar "RD en Open Source Software".

Re: [Talk-GB] UK OSM Community Interest Company (UK local chapter)

A week has gone by and the legal opinion on our AoA has attracted two comments, both from proposed interim directors, so I'm proposing to consolidate these and communicate with the lawyers for an early resolution. I don't think the issue warrants a conference call judging by the level of interest.

Re: [Talk-cz] Čísla železničních stanic

Dne 3.10.2016 v 0:29 Jethro napsal(a): Zdar, v souvislosti s prací na jízdních řádech vlaků (ftp://ftp.cisjr.cz/draha/celostatni/) se mi podařilo spárovat skoro všechny vlakové stanice s osobní dopravou s identifikátory v těchto řádech používanými. Vzhledem k tomu, že se tyto identifikátory

Re: [Talk-GB] Upper Booth camp site, Pennine Way near Edale

On 03/10/16 09:23, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > highway=footway or path should really mean "it's just a physical path", > we shouldn't really be assuming things about access. Then add explicit > access tags if we know it's permissive (or designation=public_footpath > if it's known to be a RoW). I'm

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

Hi John The need for two sources of information is a only personal preference of SK53. You can choose to follow it or not. Certainly we'd like to increase postcode and address data and this can be entered from the fhsr data. It's likely to be accurate 95% of the time. Personally I think we can

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

I think all these measurements are a great idea but in the first instance for the taginfo script I think fhrs:id is sufficient. At least we'll know that is a direct response to our QP. Postcode data I think is a little more tricky than a raw count of objects tagged with addr=postcode. For

Re: [Talk-it] [wikimedia-it] via romea germanica

2016-10-02 23:56 GMT+02:00 Cascafico Giovanni : > Io, in mancanza di segnali, non inserirei. Se all'estero fosse già > segnalata, farei un abbozzo di relazione, nell'attesa di un riscontro sui > luoghi. +1 non credo che si tratti di una vera "strada storica", è molto

Re: [Talk-it] via romea germanica

Il 01/10/2016 18:22, Simone Cortesi ha scritto: > Ciao, > mi scrivono i gestori di viaromeagermanica.com dicendomi che rendono > disponibili tutti i loro dati e immagini con licenze CC e sarebbero > molto contenti di vederli pubblicati su commons e openstreetmap. > >

Re: [Talk-it] ancora su civici e POI

2016-10-02 23:59 GMT+02:00 Fra Mauro : > L'unico modo in cui vedo ipotizzabile dare una idea della dimensione > fisica è dire quali sono i civici occupati. > ma non ti da alcuna indicazione, talvolta siti enormi hanno un solo civico, altre volte ci sono nuovi civici ogni

Re: [Talk-GB] Upper Booth camp site, Pennine Way near Edale

>So I would say that highway=path was equivalent to highway=path; >foot=yes; bicycle=yes; horse=yes; motor_vehicle=no (spellings may be >wrong). highway=footway would imply yes to just foot. Renderers and >routers will, I think follow this policy. I would also have to say no to this - we need

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

Neil - the gregrs tool is open source https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm so we can raise issues and enhancement requestsbut cannot expect gregrs alone to do all the coding. Other people with python knowledge can assist in making changes. I personally would love to do so. Probably

Re: [Talk-it] [wikimedia-it] via romea germanica

> File gpx n on ne vedo, vedo solo file KMZ, è lo stesso dal punto di > vista della licenza? La licenza non ha nulla a che vedere con il formato Certo, il formato KML/KMZ non è proprio il migliore per veicolare i dati in quanto, anche se formalmente riconosciuto come standard internazionale,

Re: [Talk-it] [wikimedia-it] via romea germanica

2016-10-02 23:56 GMT+02:00 Cascafico Giovanni : > Io, in mancanza di segnali, non inserirei. Se all'estero fosse già > segnalata, farei un abbozzo di relazione, nell'attesa di un riscontro sui > luoghi. Concordo. Ciao, Andrea ___

Re: [Talk-cz] prehled tras ve Wiki

Ahoj, co takhle to rozdělit na podstránky? Třeba dle typu? Hiking/Ski/Cyklo/Horse? Marián -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Petr Holub Komu: 'OpenStreetMap Czech Republic' Datum: 3. 10. 2016 9:18:39 Předmět: [Talk-cz] prehled tras ve Wiki

[Talk-cz] prehled tras ve Wiki

Hoj, narazil jsem na problem s OSM Wiki: chtel jsem zaktualizovat prehled tras: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Trasy_K%C4%8CT ale zda se, ze uz narazime na nejake velikostni omezeni stranek. Zkousel jsem to tam nahrat pred prazdninami i ted a vysledkem je bud chyba serveru 5xx nebo prazdna

Re: [Talk-cz] OSM na konferenci OpenAlt? | 5.-6. listopadu | Brno

Dne 2.10.2016 v 20:05 Ladislav Nesnera napsal(a): > Zkrátka, je-li trochu chuť a síla, prostor je. Uzávěrku máme 3.10., ale pár > dnů ještě dolaďujeme, tak se tím nenechte > zbytečně odradit. Stačí vyplnit formulář > ..;?) Tak jsem poslal

Re: [Talk-cz] Chybějící vlakové zastávky

2016-10-03 0:40 GMT+02:00 Jethro : > Zdar, > v souvislosti s prací na jízdních řádech (viz minulý mail) jsem > zjistil, že v OSM chybí / jsou špatně zmapovány některé vlakové > zastávky. Jedná se o následující: > > Červenka zastávka a uz je to postavene? naposledy co sem jel

Re: [Talk-ht] Lot Talk-ht, Vol 73, Parution 2

Tankou: kay, kay-jacmel, oubyen pati grandans On Oct 3, 2016 1:06 AM, "Evens Michel" wrote: > Mwen ta renmen konnen si tout pati sa yo pat katografye sèlman enligne > san ke pat gen katograf anplas > On Oct 2, 2016 7:08 AM, wrote: > >>