Re: [Talk-GB] 'Sources' tags

2019-09-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
I don't know how iD does it, but Vespucci includes the imagery used when you actually made an edit, potentially multiple different sources. You should still enter a source comment, imagery_used is simply for additional documentation purposes. Am 07.09.2019 um 18:54 schrieb Edward Bainton: > I've

[talk-au] Fwd: [Imports] Australia / Victoria / Melbourne - VicMap Property

2019-09-01 Per discussione Simon Jackson
Thanks for the responses. Some comments below. On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 at 23:15, Andrew Harvey wrote: > On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 at 10:02, Simon Jackson > wrote: > >> *Short Version:* >> https://arcg.is/0Tu8Tb >> Start a discussion on incorporating the VicMap Property datas

Re: [Talk-GB] Canoeing infrastructure/river features

2019-09-01 Per discussione Simon Poole
None of that data is actually open, it is just somebody trying to leverage implied association with OpenStreetMap and what people associate with that, to further their own project. Simon Am 31.08.2019 um 23:33 schrieb BD: > For some time I did wonder why this information is not availa

Re: [OSM-talk] Comparing INSPIRE and OpenStreetMap data conference paper

2019-08-28 Per discussione Simon Poole
Got to the 1st line of 2nd page and found the 1st error (as papers on OSM go that is not bad). Am 28. August 2019 15:05:09 MESZ schrieb "François Lacombe" : >Hi all, > >Noticed this content today, I don't think this has already been posted >here. If not, sorry for noise. > >People of JRC (Joint

Re: [Talk-de] Tags für brombeer sträucher

2019-08-27 Per discussione Simon Polster
mundraub.org sichtbar zu machen müsste man also dort einen Account machen und die Sachen dort eintragen. Oder sehe ich das falsch? Simon Am 24/08/2019 um 23:19 schrieb schimmer: > On 2019-08-24 16:21, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> sent from a phone >> >>> On 24. Aug 2019,

Re: [Talk-GB] OSMTracker for Android - detailed survey of paths & tracks layout

2019-08-17 Per discussione Simon Poole
the issue would require the original maintainer taking the app down. Outside of that I'm not quite sure what the issue is supposed to be. If you get that upset about a random bit of unmaintained software, you are going to be spending an awful lot of time being unhappy. Simon Am 17.08.2019 um 13

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Y'en a marre de http://amenagements-cyclables.fr

2019-08-17 Per discussione Simon Réau
qui utilise ce compte. Simon Simon REAU GEOVELO www.geovelo.fr MAME, 49 Boulevard de Preuilly, 37000 Tours <https://osm.org/go/0AU_l4zJI?m=> ᐧ Le ven. 16 août 2019 à 13:38, rainerU a écrit : > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/72339552 > > Je doute que "rappele

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Y'en a marre de http://amenagements-cyclables.fr

2019-08-17 Per discussione Simon Réau
Bonjour, Je me présente, Simon de Geovelo. C'est moi qui est principalement en charge des données OpenStreetMap chez Geovelo. Désolé pour les délais de réponse. Pour cause de vacance le suivi de la liste de diffusion et des contributions a pris un peux de retard chez nous. Voici comment

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView - updates

2019-08-15 Per discussione Simon Polster
with the overview map so that they always share the same geographic direction). Cheers Simon Am 06/08/2019 um 16:58 schrieb Nick Whitelegg: > > Hi, > > > To follow up my post of a couple of months ago, I have made a few updates to > OpenTrailView, a StreetView-like application

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-15 Per discussione Simon Poole
Thanks to Christine and the SotM-WG we've been allocated a slot and a room in Heidelberg see https://2019.stateofthemap.org/sessions/AV9NWC/ Simon Am 09.08.2019 um 09:41 schrieb Simon Poole: > As we've mentioned multiple times over the last months, the LWG decided > last year to consolida

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Houston, TX, open data policy license compliance

2019-08-13 Per discussione Simon Poole
time (you should ask). The related problem is that you will need to obtain a waiver for CC BY material as CC BY is in many ways more restrictive than the ODbL (see https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/). Simon Am 13.08.2019 um 08:24 schrieb JS: > Hi everyone, > >

[OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Per discussione Simon Poole
a glimpse at the text here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e_IQYHtqVivGRw4O4EOn6__-LGMuzPlWz6XKEdAkwW0/edit?usp=sharing the few things that are not nailed down belong to those that we would appreciate feedback on. Simon PS: the number of coffee breaks permitting we might want to appropriate another

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap

2019-08-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
ld require a yes, because now and then I'll map remote and if it is simply reverting a changeset on request of a remote mapper, but that doesn't mean that a) I in general think it is a good idea, b) it is any significant part of my contributions. Simon Am 07.08.2019 um 12:59 schrieb Dorothea Kazaz

Re: [Talk-GB] Displaced nodes

2019-08-04 Per discussione Simon Poole
I believe the last errant changeset was just reverted. Am 04.08.2019 um 11:37 schrieb Simon Poole: > Seems as if the culprit is reverting the changesets themselves (not > quite done as I write this). I do think a mandatory debrief on how they > managed to do this without noticing i

Re: [Talk-GB] Displaced nodes

2019-08-04 Per discussione Simon Poole
ing is wrong. Simon Am 04.08.2019 um 08:32 schrieb Roland Olbricht: > Dear all, > > there has been a couple of probably accidential movements of thousands > of nodes off central London. > > The changesets in question are most likely > > 72980739 > 72980741 > 72980743

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-27 Per discussione Simon Poole
de: outside of raw total  road length, a much more sensible comparison would be completeness measures per road categories (which I suspect is likely to look far less dramatic) and which might give more realistic goals for the community. Simon > > thanks, > naveenpf > > > On Fri, J

Re: [talk-au] Map use without attribution

2019-07-25 Per discussione Simon Poole
providers in OSMspace. As a consequence I would try -not- to argue with costs when promoting OSM. Simon Am 25.07.2019 um 00:30 schrieb Graeme Fitzpatrick: > OT to this particular problem, but still sort of on this subject ... > > One of the aircraft tracking sites I use  > http://au

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey OpenData

2019-07-23 Per discussione Simon Poole
There is no conflict. The specific OS version of the OGL was/is incompatible, data released on generic OGL terms including such by OS is (compatible). Am 23.07.2019 um 16:37 schrieb Colin Smale: > > > On 2019-07-23 16:05, Alessandro Sarretta wrote: > >> Just be careful that it seems that the OS

Re: [talk-au] Copying address from business website?

2019-07-22 Per discussione Simon Poole
for sourcing information for OSM. Simon Am 22.07.2019 um 05:04 schrieb Kim Oldfield: > Is it acceptable to copy a street address (and other contact details) > from a business's webpage? > > For example in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/72452124 (what > changed is easier to

Re: [Talk-GB] Trig Point references

2019-07-15 Per discussione Simon Ritchie
> I've noticed that some trigpoints are tagged with a reference prefixed TPUK I should also have said in my first reply that the page for each trig on the trigpointing.uk website gives the source of the OS data that it uses and shows the OS names. For example http://trigpointing.uk/trig/4791

[Talk-GB] trig point page

2019-07-15 Per discussione Simon Ritchie
> You may also be interested in this page on my user area of the OSM wiki: I certainly am. Thank you kindly. Regards Simon ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-us] Website showing the best time to survey with GPS.

2019-06-27 Per discussione Simon Poole
The answer the OP was looking for is likely https://www.gnssplanning.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

2019-06-25 Per discussione Simon Poole
o ignoring the individuals posts. Calling people names is off limits and doesn't need any additional confirmation in a CoC or whatever. Simon Am 25.06.2019 um 10:45 schrieb Harry Wood: > I definitely support moderation actions on the diaries (or indeed any > channel) when somebody steps

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping rail trails

2019-06-24 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 24. Juni 2019 19:18:26 MESZ schrieb Greg Troxel : >One wonders how RTC squares this decision with their legal obligation >to >act in the public interest. Not sharing data at all to get "related >income" to fund their operation is one thing, but sharing with Google >while not with OSM

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Atelier transport.data.gouv.fr, publication des données vélo

2019-06-21 Per discussione Simon Réau
Bonjour, Je serais présent pour Geovelo et donc pour avoir du OSM par défaut. On se refait un mini SOTM Vélo ? Simon Simon REAU GEOVELO www.geovelo.fr simon.r...@geovelo.fr Tél : 06 77 15 59 86 MAME, 49 Boulevard de Preuilly, 37000 Tours <https://osm.org/go/0AU_l4zJI?m=> ᐧ Le jeu. 2

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Currently, OSM is rendering water throughout the suburbs of Perth

2019-06-17 Per discussione Simon Poole
Should be fixed now thanks to Tom Hughes, seems as if the unpacking of the coastline files ran out of space. Note: neither a private slack channel nor a "relatively" obscure mailing list are suitable channels for reporting operational problems. The general OSM IRC channel or the operations

[Talk-GB] GPS devices

2019-06-14 Per discussione Simon Ritchie
What GPS devices are people out there using, and how accurate are they? I'm currently evaluating the Emlid Reach M+ device. It's a lovely little thing, powered through the USB so can be run using a mobile phone power bank. It has Bluetooth and uses your laptop or smartphone as a display and

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Per discussione Simon Poole
Please no. Essentially you are saying that all attribute tags that indicate that a specific facility is present should be duplicated on the standalone objects of the same type. bin=yes on amenity=waste_basket, bench=yes on amenity=bench and so on. Am 14.06.2019 um 09:27 schrieb Johnparis: > For

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL (Andy Mabbett )

2019-06-13 Per discussione Simon Poole
The ODbL (like for example the CC licences too) does not allow sub-licencing and stipulates that every licensee is licensed directly by the OSMF. Am 13.06.2019 um 19:10 schrieb Eugene Alvin Villar: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 6:17 PM Nuno Caldeira > mailto:nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com>> > wrote: >

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

2019-06-10 Per discussione Simon Poole
_Mark> > I have always wondered why it did not get more attention... Because of legal issues with both the proposed logo and using it as a replacement for "OpenStreetMap" for attribution purposes that have been mentioned more than once (it should be noted by the way that neither

Re: [Talk-at] Neue basemap.at Layer

2019-06-07 Per discussione Simon Legner
der verwendet wird. Nicht jedoch JOSM, dort ist sind ein paar manuelle Schritte notwendig: https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/#using-this-index Grüße! Simon ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listi

Re: [OSM-talk] How to Translate Strings in OSM to other languages

2019-05-31 Per discussione Simon Poole
e and move the current named to name:en or perhaps int_name? Simon Am 31.05.2019 um 12:56 schrieb Shrinivasan T: > Hello all, > > I am Shrini from Chennai, India. > > My language is Tamil. > I want to get the tamilnadu state map in OSM in Tamil. > > For this, few profe

Re: [OSM-talk] Documenting controversial iD decisions

2019-05-29 Per discussione Simon Poole
and community input we have now. Simon Am 29.05.2019 um 02:10 schrieb Clifford Snow: > Why should one editor be held to higher standards than others? > Shouldn't they all be held to the same standard? > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM john whelan <mailto:jwhelan0...@gm

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Per discussione Simon Poole
The times in the changeset do not reflect the length of the associated editing session except if the changeset was opened on purpose at the beginning which IMHO no editor does. Am 28. Mai 2019 19:53:22 MESZ schrieb Dave F via talk : >I notice these changesets were completed in 30/60 seconds

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 28. Mai 2019 17:44:25 MESZ schrieb Simon Poole : >1st thing to do is to ask the napper to slow ... mapper :-) -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit Kaiten Mail gesendet. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [OSM-talk] mass iD validation arrives in NYC

2019-05-28 Per discussione Simon Poole
1st thing to do is to ask the napper to slow down in a change set comment. Am 28. Mai 2019 17:13:49 MESZ schrieb Jmapb : >See yesterday's changesets: > >https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/70676813 ( >https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=70676813 )

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

2019-05-28 Per discussione Simon Poole
t is just as with kids you let it slip through and the next time they try a bit more, till you have a completely untenable situation. Rolling back a couple of months of work implies that those holding the purse strings (whoever they may be) didn't get what they were paying for and that, perhaps, mi

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

2019-05-27 Per discussione Simon Poole
with respect to which commits are integrated (IMHO too much work) - engaging with the respective employers and ask them to rectify the situation (obviously there's a big hole in this one) That's probably about it. Simon Am 23.05.2019 um 18:11 schrieb Markus: > Hello Bryan, hello everyone, >

Re: [Talk-GB] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 152, Issue 26

2019-05-18 Per discussione Simon Ritchie
had stands and I had some very interesting chats. It's a pity that nobody at the budget end of the market had stands. Maybe it's too expensive for them to exhibit there. Anyhow, an interesting day out. Regards Simon On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 1:00 PM wrote: > Send Talk-GB mailing l

Re: [talk-au] Local Chapter

2019-05-18 Per discussione Simon Poole
are awarded exclusive rights for the territories in question and I'm fairly sure the application will blow up in a big way if this is not considered. Simon Am 18.05.2019 um 07:48 schrieb Andrew Harvey: > Hi All, > > As my role on the OSGeo Oceania board I've been drafting up OSGeo > Oceania's

Re: [OSM-talk] iD invents nosquare=yes for buildings which should not be squared

2019-05-11 Per discussione Simon Poole
m the outline and so on, any of these could be very small even without squaring. Actually, squaring might impact them negatively, particularly when the outline is rough, but as said: square buildings are just so much easier on the eyes :-). Simon Am 10.05.2019 um 21:05 schrieb Pierre Béland via talk: &

Re: [OSM-talk] iD invents nosquare=yes for buildings which should not be squared

2019-05-09 Per discussione Simon Poole
xistent community control or even just control by the OSMF. Simon > > -Mikel > > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron > > > On Thursday, May 9, 2019, 4:18:20 PM EDT, Michael Reichert > wrote: > > > Hi, > > this could be seen as a tagging discussion

Re: [talk-au] User Diaries Spam

2019-05-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 07.05.2019 um 10:51 schrieb Sebastian S.: > Simon, > I know about the reporting option, have reported some myself. > However as outlined on this diary entry > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/alexkemp/diary/172800 > there have been thousands in the last couple of days. > M

Re: [OSM-talk] We're erasing our history in wiki

2019-04-23 Per discussione Simon Poole
See https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/disingenuous Am 22.04.2019 um 20:40 schrieb mmd: > Am 22.04.19 um 12:37 schrieb Simon Poole: >> The last functional addition to the editing API was just over a year >> ago, in March 2018. >> >> Implying for rhetorical

Re: [OSM-talk] We're erasing our history in wiki

2019-04-23 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 22.04.2019 um 18:46 schrieb Dave F via talk: > Was this new/improvement additions or bug/maintenance fix? As said, it was an addition. Simon > > DaveF > > On 22/04/2019 11:37, Simon Poole wrote: >> The last functional addition to the editing API was just over a year

Re: [OSM-talk] We're erasing our history in wiki

2019-04-22 Per discussione Simon Poole
The last functional addition to the editing API was just over a year ago, in March 2018. Implying for rhetorical purposes that "nothing has changed" is rather disingenuous. Simon Am 22.04.2019 um 11:59 schrieb Ilya Zverev: > This attitude: “to do well we would need peopl

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with differential update?

2019-04-12 Per discussione Simon Poole
the patch applied so the fix is simply to remove the explicit dependency which wasn't needed with modern JDKs in any case. Simon Am 12.04.2019 um 11:03 schrieb Simon Poole: > https://github.com/openstreetmap/osmosis/pull/50 > > Am 12.04.2019 um 10:16 schrieb Maarten Deen: >> On 2

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with differential update?

2019-04-12 Per discussione Simon Poole
https://github.com/openstreetmap/osmosis/pull/50 Am 12.04.2019 um 10:16 schrieb Maarten Deen: > On 2019-04-12 09:52, Simon Poole wrote: >> Am 12.04.2019 um 08:26 schrieb Maarten Deen: >>> >>> Does the determination in java follow the same rules (or even the same >

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with differential update?

2019-04-12 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 12.04.2019 um 08:26 schrieb Maarten Deen: > > Does the determination in java follow the same rules (or even the same > library) as file(1)? In its manpage it says >> file tests each argument in an attempt to classify it. There are >> three sets of tests, performed in this order: filesystem

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with differential update?

2019-04-11 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 11.04.2019 um 21:26 schrieb Roland Olbricht: > > Could it have been that the file triggered an arcane bug in a gz library > from the Java universe? > > ... I decompressed the failing file using the same method as osmosis without issue, so it must be fairly subtle whatever the issue is.

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with differential update?

2019-04-11 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 11.04.2019 um 22:40 schrieb mmd: > > Too bad osmosis is still unmaintained... "still"? afaik nobody has even lifted a finger to find a new maintainer, so somehow I wouldn't expect a solution to the issue barring magic, unicorns and so on. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with differential update?

2019-04-11 Per discussione Simon Poole
Should be fixed now, thanks to Grant. Am 11.04.2019 um 16:30 schrieb Simon Poole: > Unzipping and re-zipping helps so it is not actually an error in the OSM > data. AFAIK both sys admins are currently unavailable so it will take a > while to fix. > > Simon > > Am 11.04.2019 u

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with differential update?

2019-04-11 Per discussione Simon Poole
Unzipping and re-zipping helps so it is not actually an error in the OSM data. AFAIK both sys admins are currently unavailable so it will take a while to fix. Simon Am 11.04.2019 um 16:17 schrieb Simon Poole: > Sorry 643 > > Am 11.04.2019 um 16:15 schrieb Simon Poole: >>

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with differential update?

2019-04-11 Per discussione Simon Poole
It's diff 634 but the line number seems to be off, investigating. Am 11.04.2019 um 11:31 schrieb Hartmut Holzgraefe: > On 11.04.19 10:35, wambac...@posteo.de wrote: >> Hi, >> >> the differential update from planet.osm.org is making problems. >> > [...] >>

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-08 Per discussione Simon Poole
udience before the first line of code was written. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-de] Besorgt über den iD-Editor

2019-03-29 Per discussione Simon Poole
uvollziehen, siehe https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/compare/v2.14.3...master (348 commits seit dem letzten Release im Februar). Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of osmarender:nameDirection - blatant tagging for the renderer

2019-03-23 Per discussione Simon Poole
cket/17512 (if it will pass I > will open equivalents > for iD and Vespucci). > > You don't need to do anything separate for Vespucci, simply make a PR against https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/data/discarded.json Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of osmarender:nameDirection - blatant tagging for the renderer

2019-03-23 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 17.03.2019 um 22:09 schrieb Dave F: > Mateusz > There's also a few osmarender:renderName in the UK. Maybe check > osmarender:* to collate all? > > Simon > Never comprehended the reluctance to remove dead items. Does stepping > the version /really/ cause any harm? >

Re: [Talk-de] Suche einfache Android App nur um Punkte aufzunehmen

2019-03-19 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 19.03.2019 um 18:44 schrieb Max: > Finger weg von Smartphone im PKW. Kann man nur unterstreichen. Des weiteren ist es so, dass beim händischem Auslösen einer Markierung (wie auch immer) in der Praxis die Lokalisierung viel zu ungenau ist um wirklich von nutzen zu sein. > Mache automatische

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of osmarender:nameDirection - blatant tagging for the renderer

2019-03-15 Per discussione Simon Poole
and if the objects are ever edited the tags will then be removed. Simon Am 15.03.2019 um 20:16 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: > osmarender:nameDirection=* is an old tag that is case of tagging for > the renderer. > Additionally, Osmarender is defunct anyway. > > I propose to purge this ta

Re: [OSM-talk] Your thoughts on osm.org

2019-03-12 Per discussione Simon Poole
the previous incarnations without first answering: what is the purpose of the website that you can reach on openstreetmap.org? Not that I expect agreement even on that. Simon > > Imagine the openstreetmap.org home page, but without the map. > What would the home page be abou

Re: [Diversity-talk] Import of information and care points in Catalunya, Spain

2019-03-10 Per discussione Simon Poole
with the integration in OSM (which from a visibility POV is very different from being registered in an obscure government database)? Simon Am 09.03.2019 um 19:21 schrieb Rory McCann: > Might be interesting to some here > > On 07.03.19 21:32, Lanxana . wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >&g

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OpenData from Geoinformationservice Germany Rheinland-Pfalz

2019-03-09 Per discussione Simon Poole
er unclear what the terms are supposed to apply to. Simon Am 09.03.2019 um 15:13 schrieb Bernhard Schmitz: > Hello, > > is it legal to use the geoinformationdata from the > geoinformationistitute Rheinland-Pfalz Germany for house numbering and > buildings in OSM? >

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-05 Per discussione Simon Poole
on-panable and zoomable) small map snippets where on the one hand there are limitations to copyright and other rights that might apply and on the other hand some practical considerations. Simon Am 05.03.2019 um 09:37 schrieb althio: > Richard, Simon, all, > I am very happy with the current requirem

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-04 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 03.03.2019 um 12:54 schrieb Ineiev: > ... > So, when someone violates that license when using the work of > those contributors, any of them may sue the violator, mayn't they? As the user is operating on a licence from the OSMF, the foundation would have to make the determination that the

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-02 Per discussione Simon Poole
s you may see for numerous open source projects). Consumers of OSM data are doing so on a licence offered by the OSMF which has received the necessary rights for that from you via the Contributor Terms. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-02 Per discussione Simon Poole
e balance it would seem the right thing to do (we've had to take action with quite a few apps wrt trademarks over the years so I don't think anybody should doubt our resolve if we really think it is necessary). Simon > > > ___ > talk

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-02 Per discussione Simon Poole
orward about attribution, not about your old grievances. Simon > > So when relicensing the ultimate consequence is that you need to defend > your license - and thats was my first question. Is the OSMF willing > to enforce the license? > > I had my doubts that the ODbL will be

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Per discussione Simon Poole
from providing better attribution (again old example: on map attribution vs. a paragraph underneath). Any guidance should, IMHO, just lay down the rules for the minimal acceptable attribution but not limit how that can be improved on. Simon > > :Stefan > > P.S. I really would like to collect

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 01.03.2019 um 20:20 schrieb Andy Mabbett: > ... > The words you quote don't mean what you seem to think they do; they > certainly do not authorise the OSMF to act as my agent in pursuing > claims with regard to /my/ rights. > ... This is were you are confusing things: while it is true that

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 01.03.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Florian Lohoff: > ... > So please either enforce the ODbL or relicense to CC0. > > ... It is not a surprise that you are asking that, but just consider what the world would be like if we only had laws that could guaranteed to be 100% enforced. The good news is

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Per discussione Simon Poole
party data (limitations of share alike on third party data). There are no guidelines that impact or weaken the application of the ODbL wrt attribution of OSM, nor are is there any weakening of how the ODbL applies to actual OSM data or derivatives. Simon signature.asc Description: O

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 01.03.2019 um 12:49 schrieb Andy Mabbett: > On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 11:05, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > >> Additional question - who can file DMCA. AFAIK only OSMF can do that and >> individual >> mappers are unable to do it, right? > I am the copyright owner of my edits. You are the owner of

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 01.03.2019 um 12:01 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: > > > > Mar 1, 2019, 11:25 AM by si...@poole.ch: > > And specifically on the issue with Mapbox customers, one of the > results of the 2014 discussions was this statement by Mapbox >

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 01.03.2019 um 10:48 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: . > c) I recommend doing this, I tried mailing Mapbox about their > license-breaking > hiding attribution but at first their responded claiming that OSBL > allows that, > after quoting that part of them they went back to not responding > > d)

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Per discussione Simon Poole
that it would still be considered a reasonable guideline./ / Simon // signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 01.03.2019 um 01:12 schrieb Andy Mabbett: > On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 22:35, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > >> "We require that you use the credit “© OpenStreetMap contributors”... >> For a browsable electronic map, the credit should appear in the corner >> of the map." > 28 characters. There are

[OSM-talk] Licence compatibility information

2019-02-14 Per discussione Simon Poole
y . Thanks to Kathleen Lu for authoring the review. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Greater London Authority

2019-01-13 Per discussione Simon Poole
The OGl doesn't make any statements on the status of third party (in this case OSMs) content included in the published dataset. On 13.01.2019 11:31, Brian Prangle wrote: > Does anyone have any contacts in GLA? Came across this entry  at > dat.gov.uk >

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we use PLOS materials?

2019-01-11 Per discussione Simon Poole
Please see https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ And really, besides all the other problems with the wiki, deducing anything from the membership of an article in one of the multiple 10'000 essentially random categories is not a good idea. Simon Am 11.01.2019 um 12:01

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Alexa Traffic Rank

2019-01-10 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 10.01.2019 um 12:11 schrieb Sérgio V.: > Ah ok, thank you for both tips. Fortunately I was not phished to > install anything from that site. > Anyway, even if it could be an aleatory coincidence, it seems there's > actually some decrease in editons in recent months,  > according to 

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Alexa Traffic Rank

2019-01-09 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 09.01.2019 um 21:47 schrieb Sérgio V.: > According to "Alexa Traffic Rank":  > "The rank [of openstreetmap.org] declined 517 positions versus the > previous 3 months". > Global Rank: 7,069 > https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/openstreetmap.org > ("The rank is calculated using a combination of

Re: [OSM-talk] What use is OpenStreetMap?

2019-01-03 Per discussione Simon Poole
: "because people can find stuff then". The slightly longer version is that there are likely economic benefits of many different kinds (traffic control, real estate, marketing and so on) that are difficult to quantify but are likely there. Simon Am 03.01.2019 um 22:33 schrieb Mart

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-27 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 26.12.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > It seems more straightforward to fix this upstream rather than asking a > myriad of downstream users to patch it. As it is with one of our most > prominent users, maybe this specific issue should be discussed on the board? > This is not the

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-22 Per discussione Simon Poole
not scale). Please feel free to engage Die Zeit and if you do not get a satisfactory response you can submit a properly documented case to the LWG and we will, time permitting, take action. Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://list

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-22 Per discussione Simon Poole
material it needs to be clear that the purpose of the guidelines is to outline "safe" ways to provide appropriate attribution and not to be an exhaustive list of all ways to so so. Simon On 19.12.2018 12:08, Christoph Hormann wrote: > ... > Glad to hear the LWG is working on cle

Re: [Talk-de] BGH Urteil zum Fotografieren in Museen

2018-12-20 Per discussione Simon Poole
von gemeinfreien Werken erlauben. Genau gleich bez. Lichtbildschutz anstatt einen, IMHO, hoffnungslosen Fall durch die Instanzen zu treiben, lieber auf den Gesetzgeber einwirken das der Schutz eingeschränkt oder ganz abgeschafft wird. Simon Am 20.12.2018 um 23:49 schrieb Stefan Kaufmann: >

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-19 Per discussione Simon Poole
ent from a phone > >> On 19. Dec 2018, at 10:42, Simon Poole wrote: >> >> A seat on the advisory board requires at least a "gold" level membership >> which costs EUR 1 per year. > ___ > talk mailing list &g

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

2018-12-19 Per discussione Simon Poole
part of a Collective Database, and that it is available under this License. Simon On 19.12.2018 09:42, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 19.12.2018 09:33, Ervin Malicdem wrote: >> I just hoped before they were given a seat as part of OSMF's ADVISORY >> board, these issues h

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Per discussione Simon Poole
not being airports because they hadn't designated them as such. Am 11.12.2018 um 14:11 schrieb Colin Smale: > > On 2018-12-11 13:53, Simon Poole wrote: > >> As Frederik pointed out a bit back, this is just kicking the can down >> the road. >> >> We will stil

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Per discussione Simon Poole
that were being paid for what they were doing), and it will not go away by adding more tags. Simon Am 11.12.2018 um 10:03 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > sent from a phone > >> On 11. Dec 2018, at 02:18, Andy Townsend wrote: >> >> Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AivEQm

Re: [talk-au] Ferry Routes mapping in NSW

2018-11-29 Per discussione Simon Slater
On Thursday, 29 November 2018 3:07:19 PM AEDT Michael Collinson wrote: > The nodes on each side are not actually joined to the highway, just > overlapping. All good. Routing goes via the punt now. -- Regards Simon Slater Registered Linux User #463789 @ http://linuxcount

Re: [talk-au] Ferry Routes mapping in NSW

2018-11-28 Per discussione Simon Slater
a simple way, or a route > > relation[2] I made changes to this ferry route https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/627090817 a while ago, but OSRM is still not routing traffic across the punt. Can anyone see what I missed? -- Regards Simon Slater R

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF silently sides with Russia?

2018-11-19 Per discussione Simon Poole
none of this stops you from producing maps with other borders, however imaginary they might be. Simon Am 20.11.2018 um 07:15 schrieb Tomas Straupis: > Hello > > I think this needs more attention and should not be silently buried > in archives. > > OSMF/DWG has sided with M

Re: [Talk-us] California is too big ;)

2018-11-06 Per discussione Simon Poole
would want to do something on a smaller scale, would that clearly be at a county level. Frederik is likely to groan at that idea, but some how I suspect that CA county level extracts would be comparable with states in other countries. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Talk-de] POIs - Details - Gerichtsurteil

2018-11-06 Per discussione Simon Poole
Geschäften die eine nicht eingetragene, Fantasie Firma verwenden, ein Interesse am Inhaber durchaus begründbar ist. Simon   signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #431 2018-10-16-2018-10-22

2018-10-29 Per discussione Simon Poole
The point mentioning my pull request https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/2028 is a bit misleading: the PR doesn't just add links, it integrates accepting the ToU in to the signup process. That said, feedback is welcome, best on the PR. Simon Am 27.10.2018 um 16:19

[OSM-legal-talk] ODI geospatial data re-users guide

2018-10-24 Per discussione Simon Poole
nsing / terms of use. If the LWG can be of any help, please feel free to contact us at: le...@osmfoundation.org Simon Am 24.10.2018 um 10:45 schrieb Deborah Yates: > > Hi all, > > > I am writing to let you know about a project we are working on at the > Open Data Institute that

Re: [OSM-talk] "Travel like a KLocal" series of printed maps

2018-10-09 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 09.10.2018 um 16:48 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > .. > Is this a new phenomenon? Nope, variants of these scams have been around for ages on amazon (for ages==since you can self publish via amazon). Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital sig

Re: [Talk-GB] Android Auto and OSM

2018-09-24 Per discussione Simon Poole
t; get results, but who would fund it? Perhaps a petition to get > visibility for the issue? > > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2018, 01:55 Simon Poole, <mailto:si...@poole.ch>> wrote: > > The question is what not "ignoring this" entails. > > Essentially

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