Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA

On 26 August 2022 12:15:54 pm AEST, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >One thing that I'd love feedback on if possible is street numbers, >particularly for rural areas? > >Does anybody use them & are they of any use? I use them in Organic Maps for my personal navigation!

Re: [talk-au] OSM Notes

! However, I did double check some of the recently closed notes, and at least one had been closed without incorporating the information (postbox collection time) into the map. I took the opportunity to belatedly add this. Regards, David Wales On 7 March 2022 10:31:08 am AEDT, stevea wrote

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of walking tracks/paths

to the name in the guide (with permission from the author of the guide). Is this good practice? Or bad practice? Regards, David Wales On 25 January 2022 7:53:18 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey wrote: >On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 at 19:22, Little Maps wrote: > >> Hi Andrew, thanks for compiling the walking

Re: [talk-au] Sufficient permission?

As an example, this path is called "The Ruins Track" by the author of the guide, as it passes the ruins of an old settlers cottage: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/855355616 This part of the track is called "Racklyefts Finger Track": https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/856270065 Due to the

[talk-au] Sufficient permission?

ot;Robert Sloss" To: "'David Wales'" Subject: RE: OpenStreetMap Bushwalking tracks Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:43:06 +1000 Hi David I have no objection to using the name Cadastral; I used this name as there is no street nae for the right of way between the two properties. Yo

Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI Data

guidance would be good here! Regards, David Wales On 25/7/20 5:45 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: > It should still apply, but as always only the services listed > at  > https://www.spatial.nsw.gov.au/products_and_services/web_services/access_web_services >  are > covered, the Property A

[talk-au] NSW LPI Data

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Re: [talk-au] Working with local government

I imagine this approach would work better on nodes than on ways. But I imagine that the number of keys with changed nodes would be much fewer than the total number of keys, allowing the unchanged nodes to be easily updated, and reducing the conflation burden. On 20/7/20 5:24 pm, Mateusz Konieczny

Re: [talk-au] Working with local government

Is there any reason against using a custom tag as a linking key? e.g. some_import_object_id=123456 Then when you need to update the data, you can match the key in OSM with the key in the source data. On 19 July 2020 11:21:04 pm AEST, Andrew Harvey wrote: >On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 at 22:28, Greg

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal languages

indigenous groups and teaching them how to use OSM. This might even be a case where OSM can create some spatial data which is not available anywhere else, based on direct indigenous knowledge. Regards, David Wales On 2/6/20 10:41 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 0

Re: [talk-au] Question about houses

Realised that I replied directly, rather than to the list... Reply below: Hi James, If there is only one building at the address, I would merge the building and the address point. You can mark the entrance as described here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:entrance If there is more than

Re: [talk-au] Shoulder and cycle usage

If they have a painted bicycle lane, surely that would make it a bicycle lane, rather than a shoulder? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway#Cycle_lanes On 21 January 2020 2:18:05 pm AEDT, "Sebastian S." wrote: >Hi, what is the view of tagging road shoulders and particularly when

Re: [talk-au] (no subject)

Hello James, Are you new here? Welcome to Australia's OpenStreetMap mailing list! Regards, David On 14 January 2020 11:18:31 pm AEDT, James Oliver wrote: >Hello ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Way has been simplified...

By default OSMAnd shows things which may be of interest to mappers. If you don't want to see these notes, you can turn the feature off. On 12 January 2020 1:18:42 pm AEDT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >On 12/1/20 12:37 pm, Sebastian S. wrote: >> When using OSMAnd for routing I came

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

's also fine to just have a node, or to just >> have the building without the site as interim solutions or >> for fire stations where the extent is just the building which >> don't have a yard. >> >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 15:27, David Wales

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

=fire_station, and the rest of the tags. Should this be the building, or the site border? See link below: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id=724460466#map=20/-34.05818/150.67674 Regards, David Wales On 4/1/20 2:39 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Sebastian Spi

Re: [talk-au] Bush Fire Neighbourhood Safer Places

According to the NSW RFS: "Neighbourhood Safer Places are a place of last resort during a bush fire emergency. They are to be used when all other options in your bush fire survival plan can't be put into action safely." https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/plan-and-prepare/neighbourhood-safer-places

Re: [talk-au] Phone number updates

, Phil Wyatt wrote: > Hi Warin,  > > Near the borders there are a few anomalies so unless the area codes > are listed I just leave them > > Cheers - Phil,  > On the road with his iPad  > >> On 30 Dec 2019, at 8:04 pm, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >> &g

Re: [talk-au] Phone number updates

I did a few. Surely this would be a prime target for an automated edit? Regards, David Wales On 29/12/19 2:22 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 at 12:36, Phil Wyatt <mailto:p...@wyatt-family.com>> wrote: > > feel free to join me if

Re: [talk-au] Kathmandu + OSM

They're even using Leaflet, which I'm sure suggests the correct attribution if you use all the default settings! On 3/12/19 10:24 am, Adam Horan wrote: > The tiles seem to be coming from tile.osm.org - > i thought that was a no-no ? Might depend on whether their site counts

Re: [talk-au] (NSW) Email Update – Changes to permanent speed limits

page on the website, >which is explicitly CC 4.0. I suspect this means it is OK to manually >add a note or FIXME requesting resurvey. >> >> I don't think that should cause trouble with the ODBL, because you're >not importing the data. >> >> (Open to correction he

Re: [talk-au] (NSW) Email Update – Changes to permanent speed limits

not importing the data. (Open to correction here) Regards, David Wales On 14 November 2019 5:15:07 am AEDT, David Wales wrote: >A relevant paragraph from the terms of use: > >"The Service is intended for personal use only. You must not use it for >business purposes or re-suppl

Re: [talk-au] (NSW) Email Update – Changes to permanent speed limits

A relevant paragraph from the terms of use: "The Service is intended for personal use only. You must not use it for business purposes or re-supply the information to others." This seems at odds with the CC 4.0 license which the website itself is under! I suspect you would need to either track

Re: [talk-au] local traffic only

I would use access=destination On 7 November 2019 10:21:26 pm AEDT, Sebastian Spiess wrote: >Hello List, > >how do you map a 'local traffic only' sign as this one? >https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/FkY8gmlGX2NmhUARyveMQw > >Following https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access states

Re: [talk-au] Admin Boundaries of Australia

I believe we have a waiver for PSMA admin boundaries. See here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue Regards, David Wales On 1 November 2019 11:21:36 pm AEDT, wambac...@posteo.de wrote: >Hi, > >I've been referred to this source for the admin boundaries of &

Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW Lot Boundaries—worthwile to request?

Not completely redundant. Would your proposal allow one to see lot boundaries and satellite imagery at the same time, without having to switch back and forth to the LPI base map? On 24 October 2019 11:20:55 am AEDT, Luke Stewart wrote: >I didn't notice the lot boundaries on the base map but

Re: [talk-au] Facebook RapiD Roads

I'm sure it would be a valuable data source to make use of. However, I'm certain many other countries have a much greater need. Our road coverage is close to 99% from memory. (I can't remember the exact figure or reference.) We also have pretty good access to government data in many states. No

[talk-au] Australia Wiki Page

- Links: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia#Links Should the page be re-organised to reflect these categories, or should these non-existent links be removed? Regards, David Wales signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk

Re: [talk-au] Centrelink locations

p 2019 at 21:41, David Wales <mailto:daviewa...@disroot.org>> wrote: > > Dear Talk-AU, > > I have found a dataset on data.gov.au <http://data.gov.au> with > Centrelink addresses, locations and opening hours. > > > https://data.gov.au/dataset

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads'

So long as access and gates are correctly tagged, I can't see a reason not to map private roads. On 5 October 2019 8:34:59 pm AEST, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > >5 Oct 2019, 01:44 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: >> The problem here is that some raise the "not map the interiorprivate >roads in

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

Why did he remove the bridge tag? On 5 October 2019 8:16:35 pm AEST, Andrew Davidson wrote: >On 4/10/19 10:53 pm, Andy Townsend wrote: >> >> >https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1698#issuecomment-134914770 > >> > >Thanks for that. I hadn't realised there was yet another

Re: [talk-au] Discussion H: public transport – the end game

This is a good point. Is there a moderator who could check if something like this is the case? Regards, David On 2 October 2019 10:46:00 pm AEST, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > >2 Oct 2019, 09:19 by e...@mapillary.com: > >> For the health of the mailing list, it would make sense to limit his

Re: [talk-au] Discussion E: how to find faults in maps

the selected tags. I have selected the 'invert' option to hide everything except the selected tags. See an [example of the above filter][7] here. [7]: https://imgur.com/VNmUDWN Regards, David Wales On 29/9/19 8:50 am, Warin wrote: > On 29/09/19 07:30, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au wrote: >> >>

Re: [talk-au] Discussion C: mapping on the street

navigation applications such as OSMAnd allow for limited editing and creation of points of interest. For instance, I used it to add some shops directly to the map recently. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAnd Regards, David Wales On 27 September 2019 9:05:18 am AEST, "Herbert.Remi via Ta

[talk-au] Centrelink locations

Dear Talk-AU, I have found a dataset on data.gov.au with Centrelink addresses, locations and opening hours. https://data.gov.au/dataset/ds-dga-70c2b2fe-2a32-450e-98dc-453fe4a02aae/details?q=Centrelink I was unable to find this data in the Australian data catalogue. It is licensed as

Re: [talk-au] topic A: the platform itself

I am a member of some international OSM Slack channels. However, because it requires a whole different app (which I only have space for on my computer), I only check it monthly at best. On the other hand, I read every talk-au message within a few days of original posting, because they all

Re: [talk-au] [Imports] Australia / Victoria / Melbourne - VicMap Property

Forwarding this to talk-au. On 1/9/19 9:57 am, Simon Jackson wrote: > *Short Version:* > https://arcg.is/0Tu8Tb* > * > Start a discussion on incorporating the VicMap Property dataset into OSM. > * > * > *Longer Version:* > DELWP is the state agency for Victoria in Australia, whom are >

Re: [talk-au] play ground locations and much more from open data source but how?

If you want some practice with this sort of thing, feel free to help out with the NSW Address import: https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import On 18 August 2019 2:13:04 pm AEST, Andrew Davidson wrote: >On 18/8/19 11:07 am, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au wrote: >> how to do this? > >Step 1

Re: [talk-au] Residential Poolside Building

I mainly do it if I need a break from adding useful data... And it makes the map look pretty. Also, could it be useful for fire fighters? On 13 August 2019 9:50:01 am AEST, Andrew Davidson wrote: >On 13/8/19 09:22, Ian Sergeant wrote: >> For OSM it's nothing more than a colouring-in exercise.

Re: [talk-au] Residential Poolside Building

I think in this day and age, we can't really consider anything private if it's visible from space... Apple appears to be mapping backyard tennis courts now. https://www.justinobeirne.com/new-apple-maps Just make sure that you tag them as access=private ! On 12/8/19 7:58 pm, Warin wrote: > On

Re: [talk-au] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

Hi Daniel, Sounds good! Thanks. On 26 July 2019 7:05:53 am AEST, dcapillae wrote: >Hi, > >I am Daniel, from Spain. I would like to change the name of the wiki >pages related to the Australia mapping project to remove the >"Wikiproject" prefix following the pages name conventions [1]. > >The

[talk-au] Map use without attribution

Is this substantial enough to be worth contacting the website owner? Relevant links: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline Regards, David Wales signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [talk-au] Maxweight signs question

https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/779/track-info https://openstreetcam.org/details/1359722/744/track-info https://openstreetcam.org/details/1343611/1763/track-info Regards, David Wales On 24/6/19 10:24 am, Ewen Hill wrote: > Good morning  Mateusz , >    A lot of the tertiary

Re: [talk-au] Wadbilliga Road south east NSW marked 4WD only

tps://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/things-to-do/4wd-touring-routes/wadbilliga-road-drive This website describes it as: "Difficulty: Moderate Length: 10km to 30km Type: Sharp Rocks Steep ascents/descents River crossing(s)" https://tracks.4x4earth.com/4wd-track/wadbilliga-road/820 Regards, David Wales On 18

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Currently, OSM is rendering water throughout the suburbs of Perth

Thanks Simon. Good to know. On 17 June 2019 9:45:24 pm AEST, Simon Poole wrote: > >Should be fixed now thanks to Tom Hughes, seems as if the unpacking of >the coastline files ran out of space. > >Note: neither a private slack channel nor a "relatively" obscure >mailing >list are suitable

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Currently, OSM is rendering water throughout the suburbs of Perth

Zooming to at least level 15 in Egypt shows water coverage too. I think it's definitely a rendering issue. On 17/6/19 6:16 pm, David Wales wrote: > Consensus on Slack is that it is a rendering issue specific to > Australian tile mirrors. > When I route my VPN through the Netherlands

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Currently, OSM is rendering water throughout the suburbs of Perth

Consensus on Slack is that it is a rendering issue specific to Australian tile mirrors. When I route my VPN through the Netherlands or the US, the water goes away. But routing through Japan is still flooded... Do we know who runs rendering for tiles in this region? Regards, David Wales On 17/6

[talk-au] Tagging frontage roads

("Thirlmere Way"), or if they should be left unnamed. (The street address of the houses on the frontage roads is "Thirlmere Way".) Regards, David Wales signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] use of addr:unit

the full 3D indoor mapping! Regards, David Wales On 19/5/19 1:41 pm, Sebastian S. wrote: > Well David my question originated from the address import undertaking. > As I was dispersing nodes I though why not combine all into one and > add the information via the unit tag. > -- > Sent

Re: [talk-au] use of addr:unit

specifically! Regards, David Wales On 17/5/19 9:53 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Agreed,  if it's an apartment block, then just the street address > should be enough. The unit field would be more helpful for say > townhouses where the units are spread out and you could tag > individually, or sho

Re: [talk-au] Rock Overhangs

I support natural=rock_overhang, or something similar. David On 14 April 2019 10:14:44 pm AEST, Andrew Harvey wrote: >Ok, thanks for the feedback. Let's gather some global thoughts on this, >I've posted >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-April/044554.html > >On Sun, 14

Re: [talk-au] Shout out

>On 10/04/19 16:08, Dion Moult wrote: >> Awesome work! The user in question is "balcoath" - it looks great! >> >> >> Dion Moult >> >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 1:43 PM, David Wales > wrote: >>

[talk-au] Shout out

Hi Talk-AU, I just noticed evidence of some serious mapping commitment around Revesby. As far as I can tell, one person has been tracing all the buildings in this area, for the last 8 years! https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-33.9537/151.0142 Impressive! Regards, David Wales

Re: [talk-au] Large contribution to update OSM rural / offroad tracks in Australia

by OpenStreetMap, and available for anyone to use as a map overlay? Could your data be added to that? Or were you thinking of something else? Regards, David Wales On 3 April 2019 3:59:16 pm AEDT, James Nuccio wrote: >Hi OSM community! > >I'm relatively new to using and contributing to OSM

Re: [talk-au] Rock Overhangs

I tend to agree with Warin here. Unless some human has carved the cave out, I don't think it should count as an amenity! On 1/4/19 9:07 am, Warin wrote: > I object.  > amenity=shelter I see as a man made object, some with better shelter > than others. > I think these should remain in the 'natural

Re: [talk-au] Help with overlapping features

Hi Graham, See this list of iD keyboard shortcuts: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ID/Shortcuts I think you need to select the connected nodes, and press 'D'. Regards, David On 29 March 2019 12:07:39 pm AEDT, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >Hi > >Just doing some mapping around here

Re: [talk-au] Help with overlapping features

Hi Graham, Are you just wanting to unglue the ways from each other, so that you can move things around without moving other things around? On 29 March 2019 12:07:39 pm AEDT, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >Hi > >Just doing some mapping around here

Re: [talk-au] Sydney mapathon

Hi Ben and Dion, Saturdays are normally good, but I'm moving house on the 23rd! So if that's the date, I won't be able to make it. Regards, David Wales On 18/3/19 1:29 pm, Ben Kelley wrote: > Practically it will probably need to be a weekday evening, as we are not > open on the w

Re: [talk-au] Sydney mapathon

Hi Dion, I would be happy to meet up for an afternoon of mapping. Saturdays are usually best for me. Regards, David Wales On 15/3/19 11:26 am, Dion Moult wrote: > Thanks for all the responses! > > Interested people in joining: > - Dion Moult (myself) > - David Anderson (

Re: [talk-au] Sydney mapathon

Hi Dion, I would be interested in participating. I don't know of I count as experienced, but I'm happy to help any newbies! Regards, David Wales On 11 March 2019 8:05:58 am AEDT, Dion Moult wrote: >Good morning all! > >I recently had a chat with Ritva from WSP in Brisbane, who to

Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import

going on, and that you can review any datasets in the >> following repo. Some of the manual steps have been automated a >> little bit more thanks to great work by David Wales, but it is >> still a human review process at the end of the day so we are doing >> a

Re: [talk-au] Turn lanes review

Thanks Joel, I was using 'Lane and road attributes', but I see that 'Enhanced lane and road attributes' is different. I'll try it out. Regards, David Wales On 18/2/19 12:06 am, Joel H. wrote: > Are you using Map Paint styles in JOSM? These help you visually see what > your road tags are

Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import

in the merge request, so the 'uploaded' directory matches what was actually uploaded. Regards, David Wales On 17 February 2019 11:55:37 pm AEDT, "Joel H." wrote: >If all is well with the data, Do we upload? > >P.S. I'm still in the middle of Brisbane City's import, so I can't help &

[talk-au] Splitting buildings with shared walls

, and the LPI Imagery, I split it into individual buildings with shared walls. I did this by using the 'Draw Nodes' tool to draw the shared wall, and the 'Split Object' tool to split the building into two. Regards, David Wales signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [talk-au] Turn lanes review

Hi Andrew, Thanks for your feedback. I've edited the changeset and uploaded it: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/67040007 Regards, David Wales On 9/2/19 5:02 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I'm not sure I follow your example, but... > > The rule of thumb is to only split the

[talk-au] Turn lanes review

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[talk-au] Residential road tagging

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Re: [talk-au] Naming Bus Stops for interchanges in Sydney

Why not: name=Stand F, Strathfield Station addr:street=Albert Road On 22/1/19 11:26 am, Michael Collinson wrote: > In Sweden, I have seen the "F" going into the ref tag. Just a thought, I > don't recall how it affects rendering in common schemes. Con: Clash with > a more rigorous ref num giving

Re: [talk-au] Our work in last two weeks

I don't know what the OSM convention is for this, but I tend to agree with Nemanja. It makes more sense to split the two halves of the road, rather than have them as a single way. On 22 January 2019 8:23:35 am AEDT, "Nemanja Bračko" wrote: >@Warin, > >I personally do not see why is it wrong

Re: [talk-au] Brisbane City Address Import

Hi Joel, I have had a quick look at the address data file in JOSM, and it looks pretty good. When you split it by suburb / region, will you share the smaller region files so other mappers can help with the review / conflation / upload process? Regards, David Wales On 13/1/19 11:13 pm, Joel H

Re: [talk-au] Brisbane City Address Import

If you create a repository for your import scripts, and create some issues, I'm happy to help out. Have a look at Dion Moult's import repository for the NSW LPI Address data for some ideas. We are importing suburb by suburb, and putting changesets up for review on the repository before uploading

Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import

Thanks Dion, I'll get back to the repo in the next day or so. I had a quick look, and it seemed pretty comprehensive, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. Andrew, I could make a custom OsmAnd map with address data, but it would spoil the point of using OsmAnd for me! I use it because

Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import

s being part of the >NSW LPI Address import >2. addresses which are already mapped in OSM are not lost in the >process, since these are potentially more accurate, and potentially >more ground truthed > >then it's fine to proceed as you see fit. > >On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at

[talk-au] NSW LPI address import

Hello Talk-AU, I sent this message earlier with the subject ‘Hello!’, but somehow it got PGP encrypted on the way! So, here it is again, hopefully not encrypted. I am an Australian mapper, interested in participating in the NSW LPI address import

[talk-au] Hello!

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