Re: [Talk-us] TIGER expansion bot

2012-11-27 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, Toby Murray wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Brian May b...@mapwise.com wrote: On 11/27/2012 7:06 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Josh Doe j

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs

2012-11-26 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: In Alaska the Boroughs and CPDs are the equivalent of counties. I recently cleaned up much of the Canada/Alaska border and in the process looked at the counties data. I have come to the conclusion that it is better and

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER expansion bot

2012-11-26 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:52 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 November 2012 03:53, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I did look at your tiger.py script. I think br might also stand for

Re: [Talk-us] street name expansion thoughts

2012-11-26 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:29 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: It might be because this road seems to have two type suffixes: Branch and Road. But the TIGER data model only allows for one so they shoved the first one into the name field. Ideally (IMO) they should have put

Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - Progress/Todo

2012-11-21 Thread Toby Murray
It is great to see some good PR happening before the event kicks off! I just put up a blog post about a few things I have done to try and help out before the fact. [1] I mention this at the end of the post and it is listed on the wiki page but please do be aware that there is an IRC channel

Re: [Talk-us] Newly tweaked TIGER road names tiles

2012-11-19 Thread Toby Murray
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EXPANDING NAMES ALREADY IN OSM! Please read my email again. All I did was update the TIGER 2012 road name tiles. I am not touching OSM data at all! But please do take a look at the road name tiles in the areas you have mentioned and see if they are correct. Cases that

[Talk-us] Newly tweaked TIGER road names tiles

2012-11-18 Thread Toby Murray
As we briefly discussed during the virtual mappy hour last week, I have managed to wrangle some TIGER data and do some automated expansion of abbreviated street names on the TIGER road name tiles. The results can be seen in a new tile layer. You can preview it here:

Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations

2012-11-02 Thread Toby Murray
Yeah, I will be in the middle of Nebraska with minimal, if any internet. But as Matthias points out, most participants may be outside of the US. I think it would be good to have a few US mappers available on IRC or the like to answer questions but that might still be doable. Hopefully if we can

Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations

2012-11-01 Thread Toby Murray
I assume we should target these activities towards mappers of medium or lower skill? One task I can think of doing is to find newer roads that weren't in the original TIGER data and adding them in, preferably in areas without active mappers. But I assume not many participants would be able to

Re: [Talk-us] NE2 changing my work with bots again

2012-10-31 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Sam Iacullo sjiacu...@gmail.com wrote: Well all, he's at it again. I had an issue with user NE2 a while ago involving his running of bots changing a bunch of highways that I had worked on here in Texas. Apparently, he's back at it again, and it's worse than

[Talk-us] US specific resources

2012-10-30 Thread Toby Murray
(splitting into its own thread) On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: It's a good reminder they are there. They should probably be listed on a yet-to-be-created 'resources' page on the openstreetmap.us web site. What are some more US specific resources we

Re: [Talk-us] MapRoulette new challenge: connectivity

2012-10-29 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Ivan Komarov jkoma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Martijn, Besides ways with close ends, here are thousands of (partially) duplicated roads, mostly along county boundaries that kill road network topology as well. They typically appear as more than one roads having

Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations

2012-10-18 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: Hi everyone, We're getting ready to do a major data update to the Stamen Terrain layer and I've been working on scrubbing the route relations data from OSM. I've linked to a before and after CSV, processed via Google

[Talk-us] SOTM-US venues not in the map!

2012-10-10 Thread Toby Murray
So I just got an email from the SOTM-US organizers with some details about the conference. They mentioned some cafes and bars. None of them seem to be in OSM! Can any Portland locals help us out and map these venues so we don't get lost during the conference? :) In particular from the email:

Re: [Talk-us] SOTM-US venues not in the map!

2012-10-10 Thread Toby Murray
?) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/79291038 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net wrote: On 10/10/2012 12:06 PM, Toby Murray wrote: So I just got an email from the SOTM-US organizers with some details about the conference. They mentioned some cafes and bars. None

Re: [Talk-us] Abbreviating names in tools

2012-10-04 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:26 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there's been a lot of talk at one point about abbreviating names in the OSM database vs. doing it when processing the data at consumers end. Since mapnik now supports alternative label placements I gave rendering

Re: [Talk-us] JOSM zoom limits per server solved (fixes Tiger grey overlay )

2012-09-23 Thread Toby Murray
I knew about the max zoom setting but for some reason never thought about applying it to the TIGER tiles to fix the grey Toby On Sep 21, 2012 1:23 PM, Alan Millar grunthos...@yahoo.com wrote: Maybe everyone else knows this, but I just discovered it myself so I thought I would share it.

Re: [Talk-us] Schedule for State Of The Map US is live

2012-09-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi all, The schedule for State Of The Map US, Portland OR, Oct 13-14 is live now on the web site! http://stateofthemap.us/ It is going to be a jam packed couple of days with tracks covering Switching to OSM,

Re: [Talk-us] videos of presentations from SOTM 12

2012-09-15 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Andrew Salzberg andrew.salzb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know if the videos of presentations from SOTM 12 are going to be compiled/uploaded anywhere? Would love to look back at some of them and highlight/share some with folks I know who weren't there.

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:57 AM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: Concerning ref tags on ways, I don't think there's a need to impose nationwide consistency. I also don't think it's worth even adhering to a strict machine-parseable syntax (particularly dealing with overlaps) since

Re: [Talk-us] Large area of deleted streets in Riverside, Calif.

2012-09-10 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Hello all, In the process of doing the Remap-a-Tron, I found a huge area of Riverside, Calif., where most side streets have been deleted. It's along the Pomona Freeway, east of the Chino Freeway, which is

Re: [Talk-us] Large area of deleted streets in Riverside, Calif.

2012-09-10 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Hello all, In the process of doing the Remap-a-Tron, I found a huge area of Riverside, Calif., where most side streets have been

Re: [Talk-us] Large area of deleted streets in Riverside, Calif.

2012-09-10 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Hello all, In the process of doing the Remap-a-Tron, I

Re: [Talk-us] how to select overlapping objects in Potlatch 2?

2012-09-06 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: A relatively new user has created a bunch of duplicate Ways around here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.732lon=-71.49769zoom=17layers=M So far I've had good email exchanges with this new user, and I was about to send

Re: [Talk-us] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-28 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Right now we're sitting at 3,076 ways left to fix. And keep in mind that for every way rendered on this map, there are probably 10 more bot problems in the area like missing ways, broken topology, etc. So don't just

Re: [Talk-us] US-Canadian border

2012-08-22 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:43 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 22, 2012 10:23 AM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) calvin.metc...@state.ma.us wrote: Ah that makes more sense, but not sure how it explains http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.81868lon=-66.91419zoom=15layers=M What

Re: [Talk-us] Blogs

2012-08-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi all, I want to collect some US centered OSM blogs to add to my blog roll, to blogs.openstreetmap.org and I think it would also be nice to have a local blogs link collection at openstreetmap.us So which OSM US

Re: [Talk-us] Kern County progress

2012-08-20 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Nathan Mixter srmix...@hotmail.com wrote: I have begun cleaning up the area around Kern County, California. It is starting to not only look better but be less cluttered. I originally imported landuse data from both Kern County and the City of Bakersfield. Some

Re: [Talk-us] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-16 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I just updated my oneway map that shows ways with a oneway tag but without a highway tag that were last touched by the redaction bot. I have been

Re: [Talk-us] Another random road reclassification

2012-08-15 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed user SimMoonXP ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimMoonXP ) reclassifying a few isolated stretches of KS highway 7 in the Kansas City area. I sent a message asking why and he indicated that he

Re: [Talk-us] Duplicate state parks in California

2012-08-14 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:53 PM, AJ Ashton aj.ash...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen state parks in California that are in the database twice each with slightly different tags. Here is an example changeset that added two of everything: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2020128 Two

[Talk-us] Another random road reclassification

2012-08-14 Thread Toby Murray
I just noticed user SimMoonXP ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimMoonXP ) reclassifying a few isolated stretches of KS highway 7 in the Kansas City area. I sent a message asking why and he indicated that he was reclassifying anything with a separated grade intersection as motorway, even if it

[Talk-us] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-13 Thread Toby Murray
I just updated my oneway map that shows ways with a oneway tag but without a highway tag that were last touched by the redaction bot. I have been updating the tiles every couple of days but at the suggestion of someone on IRC I just added bridge and lanes tags to the list in addition to oneway.

Re: [Talk-us] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I just updated my oneway map that shows ways with a oneway tag but without a highway tag that were last touched by the redaction bot. I have been updating the tiles every couple of days but at the suggestion of someone

Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap birthday celebrations

2012-08-11 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Dear All, It is that time again. OpenStreetMap turns eight years old in just a few days. Join the celebration by getting together with other mappers at one of the planned celebrations, or plan one in your town!

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-31 Thread Toby Murray
I was unaware of the TLID bug and the fact that TIGER has changed their data model although I kind of wondered about this because I didn't see a TLID attribute in the new TIGER shapefiles. I guess the new field is LINEARID? So yeah, that makes the tlid tag completely useless then. So, I think I'm

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread Toby Murray
Ok well so far I see no opposition to deleting tiger:upload_uuid. I might go ahead and work on some code for this. Other than that we have some votes for keeping tiger:county, tiger:zip and tiger:separated although I personally still have it in for tiger:separated :) Any thoughts on

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: While we're incrementing every single version number of TIGER data, we should think about expanding the road names, too. Using the prefix and suffix data already on the majority of the ways makes this pretty fool-proof, so

[Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-28 Thread Toby Murray
Some people may not even be aware of this but JOSM silently discards the created_by tag if it exists on any object you change and upload to the API. This tag was deemed unnecessary and counterproductive a long time ago and this is just a way of cleaning it out of the database as people edit. Not

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-28 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: I'm all for upload_uuid being removed automatically. As for tiger:separated, is it possible to remove the tag only if it's set to no? The 1.4% that are set to something else should probably be reviewed manually. Might be

Re: [Talk-us] flyers / brochures

2012-07-25 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Richard, On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: The sources for the most recent flyer are available, here, I think.

[Talk-us] Good work with remapping!

2012-07-23 Thread Toby Murray
I've been watching edits come in today and I see good work being done on interstates, especially in the LA area. It isn't the most fun work to do so thanks to everyone who is pitching in. I ended up finishing the cleanup on I-105. It's just a short one so that's not really a huge feat. To make

Re: [Talk-us] Map of bot node edits

2012-07-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Sax-Barnett, Melelani barne...@trimet.org wrote: Toby said: Alright... I got something running. http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/maps/redaction.html Thanks, Toby! I would love to see it zoomed in a little more if you get around to it. Today I added zoom 12. I

Re: [Talk-us] Routing tests

2012-07-21 Thread Toby Murray
I just made another set of tiles that should help find routing problems along interstates. I noticed that the bot often removed the highway=* tag but left the oneway=* tag. So I looked for ways with oneway tags without a highway tag. I had to filter out some common ones like waterway and ski

Re: [Talk-us] Routing tests

2012-07-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Right now it is only down to z10 but that is worldwide. Tomorrow I will see about making some higher zoom levels in higher density areas. I went ahead and did up to z13 in California, Arizona and Nevada. I think

Re: [Talk-us] Major Vandalism in the Charlotte, NC

2012-07-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Thanks for the heads up - otherwise I would have probably been checking out some of those interstates soon. I always wonder about the thought processes when this happens... A couple of times I have spotted this kind of

[Talk-us] Map of bot node edits

2012-07-20 Thread Toby Murray
Alright... I got something running. http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/maps/redaction.html It is a map that shows all nodes (but ONLY nodes) touched by the bot in the US and Canada. Actually I thought I was only doing the lower 48 but apparently Maperitive decided that I wanted more. I think it cuts

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Hello all, The damage in LA is much more severe: missing segments of freeways, roads gone. I thought the bot was supposed to be smart enough to subnstitute TIGER data when eliminating data by

Re: [Talk-us] LA part of the map essentially is unusable

2012-07-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Everyone, Having looked over the damage and deletions for the last hour, I feel the redaction has left the LA map essentially unusable. Huge blocks of streets are missing, including major roads and some

Re: [Talk-us] LA part of the map essentially is unusable

2012-07-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM, James Umbanhowar jumba...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:02:29 PM Toby Murray wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Everyone, Having looked over the damage and deletions

Re: [Talk-us] LA part of the map essentially is unusable

2012-07-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: So, are you volunteering? Anyone else? Sure. I think I've already fixed up most of the bot damage in Kansas. I will be contributing in other places as I have time. LA will certainly be towards the top of my

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-19 Thread Toby Murray
And this time to the list... (cures you, lack of reply-to!) On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM, the Old Topo Depot oldto...@novacell.com wrote: Toby's post yesterday using the modified live edit bot osmZmiany seems a good way to help focus on areas. Toby, do you think it possible to serialize

Re: [Talk-us] Post bot cleanup

2012-07-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:32 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: is anyone else noticing some ways have a name, a one way direction, some other info, but no highway tag. so they dont actually render in potlatch 2. the only reason i noticed them way due to the oneway arrows being

Re: [Talk-us] Redaction bot is heading our way!

2012-07-18 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: What is this a screenshot of? OSMZmiany, do I read that right? Can you zoom in with that, too? On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Well, here is a brief overview of the bot's

Re: [Talk-us] Redaction bot is heading our way!

2012-07-18 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Well, here is a brief overview of the bot's activities for today. There are still a couple of areas that errored out or are still in progress

[Talk-us] Note to users of overapss/xapi like services (mirrored download and such)

2012-07-18 Thread Toby Murray
I noticed today that since the license bot is going full throttle, my server hasn't been able to keep up with minutely diffs any more. Right now I'm about 4 hours behind. My server isn't exactly optimized for performance so this might not be affecting all users of minutely diffs but please beware

[Talk-us] Post bot cleanup

2012-07-18 Thread Toby Murray
Now that we're cleaning up after the license bot, what problems are people seeing? I figure if we understand how the bot broke things, it might be easier to identify and fix. In talking on IRC just now, Kai found this offramp: http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/redaction_weird_offramp.png The going

Re: [Talk-us] railway=abandoned and mapping things that are not there any more?

2012-07-12 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Peter Dobratz wrote: I'm trying to get a better understanding of the railway=abandoned tag and see what the community thinks about it. FWIW there's been a similar discussion on talk-gb recently. The consensus

[Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-dev] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-09 Thread Toby Murray
Forwarding from talk/dev Note that the date given (9th) should be 11th So we may see things starting to happen here in the US within the next week or two. Toby -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Date: Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:46 PM Subject:

Re: [Talk-us] US Road route relation conventions

2012-07-09 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: As part of the review and cleanup after the redaction bot, I am planning to go through and review state routes and create relations for them. There's been much good work in developing the Shields rendering scheme, and I would

[Talk-us] Scenic/Historic byways

2012-07-08 Thread Toby Murray
Just came across this while processing pictures from my bike across Kansas: http://i.imgur.com/bmiV2.jpg This is a sign for the Western Vistas historic byway. It even has a website: http://www.westernvistashistoricbyway.com/ Closer to home I have also seen a Scenic Byway sign. This seems to be

Re: [Talk-us] Scenic/Historic byways

2012-07-08 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/8/2012 3:20 PM, Toby Murray wrote: Just came across this while processing pictures from my bike across Kansas: http://i.imgur.com/bmiV2.jpg This is a sign for the Western Vistas historic byway. It even has

Re: [Talk-us] Scenic/Historic byways

2012-07-08 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Kevin Kenny kken...@nycap.rr.com wrote: On 07/08/2012 03:20 PM, Toby Murray wrote: Just came across this while processing pictures from my bike across Kansas: http://i.imgur.com/bmiV2.jpg This is a sign for the Western Vistas historic byway. It even has

Re: [Talk-us] Work on Arizona rail lines deleted

2012-06-19 Thread Toby Murray
Can you please give a link to a specific location where your work was deleted? I found one location where one of the lines ends but using the Potlatch 1 undelete feature I'm not seeing any deleted ways in the area: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.017245lon=-109.728267zoom=18layers=M Also,

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-06 Thread Toby Murray
I kind of doubt reverting changesets would work out very well. Reverting a changeset becomes more difficult as time goes on and things in that changeset are touched by other users. Then you get into conflicts and other odd situations that are hard to handle. I did some remapping in LA from TIGER

Re: [Talk-us] Blocking of user WorstFixer for removing ele=0 etc

2012-05-15 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2012-05-13 02:49, Frederik Ramm wrote: Removing ele=0 from objects is, in my opinion, totally unnecessary; And maybe incorrect, as ele=0 means we know the elevation is 0, while no ele tag means we do not know

Re: [Talk-us] NHD data changes

2012-05-07 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I've been looking at the NHD data from the USGS site and have noticed a few recent changes from how they were described on the wiki. 1. The viewer has changed. http://viewer.nationalmap.gov/viewer/nhd.html will bring up a map

Re: [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Toby Murray
I just downloaded all highway=mini_roundabout nodes and just browsed around a bit comparing the nodes to Bing imagery. There are a *lot* of turning circles tagged as mini roundabouts. And not just in North America. Some of them are turning circles with an island in the middle but many of them are

Re: [Talk-us] Fresno castradal imports

2012-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Do those individual polygons have any useful information on them (addresses, for example)? If so, we should generate addr points from their centroids. Either way, we could save useful OSM information by creating a new polygon

Re: [Talk-us] Address placement (was: Fresno castradal imports)

2012-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
Moving this to a new thread because there is no address data in the Fresno import so this discussion is completely irrelevant. I believe NE2 started a thread about this a while ago and there wasn't too much response but since it came up again... On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Paul Johnson

Re: [Talk-us] Fresno castradal imports

2012-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Brett Lord-Casitllo marigol...@yahoo.com wrote: That keys you into everythingelse you might want: address, land value, building value, FIRM map, etc. But in this case that's kind of the point... the parcel ID would only be useful for you to go into the already

Re: [Talk-us] Fresno castradal imports

2012-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: If parcel data is important to disaster response, I would expect the responder to go get the most up to date data from the source, not use stale data that

Re: [Talk-us] 25or6to4 NHD imports

2012-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
From: Jason Straub [mailto:strau...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 1:44 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] 25or6to4 NHD imports Howdy,  After discussion with Toby, I am updating the list with my import efforts.  First, hopefully this message goes through, as

Re: [Talk-us] Are US freeway relation licensing issues being worked on?

2012-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: I have taken care to repair the relations when remapping freeways. We can run an analysis after all is said and done and create a wiki to resolve the remaining issues together. Martijn On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:16 PM,

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-02 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com wrote: ISTM this might be a good mechanical turk application if there is genuine concern that there will be a substantial error rate (my point-of-view as a social scientist is that a hypothesized 1/1000 error rate is pretty

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-04-30 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Apr 30, 2012 5:00 PM, David Litke dwli...@comcast.net wrote: I just did a few manual TIGER reviews in JOSM and got a validation warning that words like Street and Avenue were abbreviated as St and Ave. So I wonder if

Re: [Talk-us] Parks, etc. Points or outlines

2012-04-25 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/24/2012 10:21 PM, Toby Murray wrote: I think the reason they exist is the same reason why cities always have a node in addition to their administrative boundaries. And states/countries too far that matter. Most

Re: [Talk-us] 25or6to4 NHD imports

2012-04-25 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/25/2012 7:25 PM, Paul Norman wrote: The users 25or6to4 and 25or6to4_upload have been importing NHD data in Louisiana without the required consultation and with a few other problems with the import guidelines.

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-17 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2012-04-16 20:41, Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/16/2012 9:18 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Or you

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-16 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/16/2012 9:18 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Or you can simply add odbl=clean if there's nothing ungood about the object (e.g. it was split from a TIGER way and the splitting

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-15 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 7:26 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 April 2012 03:30, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: One drawback to this new-coordinate technique is that, in some cases, the tainted nodes will have been

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:27 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I don't know who's doing that work in Columbia on the Interstates, but they are doing it wrong unfortunately.  While the ways aren't tainted anymore, all of the nodes are still.  Meaning that once the bot gets unleashed,

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I've been working in Seattle.  An undecided (and probably long gone) mapper touched a large segment of the area.  Looking at CLEANMAP, Seattle looks much better after hours of work by many people.  However if every

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-12 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:36 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: Hey, us, vaguely northamerican OSMers:  nice work so far! I see excellent progress in California during the recent eight days of re-mapping.  If you are an editing maniac (like me in the last few days) you have

Re: [Talk-us] NHD import

2012-04-09 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Gregory Arenius greg...@arenius.com wrote: Yes, I see a lot of water features that are just not corroborated by the aerial imagery, which could mean one of at least three things: 1) The aerial imagery is out of date 2) The NHD data is out of date 3) The NHD

Re: [Talk-us] Update on remapping

2012-04-01 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:42 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: So, who else here was at least somewhat successful in their objective in data cleanup (I still think this whole thing was kinda stupid, as I'd rather been fixing/adding new stuff instead of redoing stuff that others

Re: [Talk-us] City boundaries on the Canada/US border

2012-03-30 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Alexander Roalter alexan...@roalter.it wrote: Am 30.03.2012 11:17, schrieb Paul Norman: There are a significant number of cities in BC and Washington which have borders that in practice[1] coincide with the Canada/US border. Currently in OSM these are

[Talk-us] Update on remapping

2012-03-28 Thread Toby Murray
If you haven't seen it yet, good news! OSMF has indeed pushed the database rebuild back a couple of days to begin on April 1st, instead of the slightly insane (IMO) attempt to finish by April 1st. http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/03/27/service-schedule-march-april-2012/ After the last thread I

Re: [Talk-us] Update on remapping

2012-03-28 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 3/28/2012 2:55 AM, Toby Murray wrote:  I've seen a little work being done on interstates but so far it's been a drop in the bucket. My logic is that data consumers will shut off their feed, so we won't have instant chaos

Re: [Talk-us] Remapping - help needed

2012-03-27 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I am working on remapping parts of Seattle.  Road data is available, but there are a number of parks that will be lost with the license change. I'm not sure where to get the data for the park boundaries.  I have

Re: [Talk-us] Remapping coastlines

2012-03-25 Thread Toby Murray
So I got some NHD shapefiles from Phil. Unfortunately coastlines are hard. The nodes tend to get incorporated into all kinds of other things like beaches, piers, etc so I can't just do an xapi query and replace things wholesale like I did with the state boundaries. So far I have only done a few

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed import: GeoBase Coastlines into Northwest Washington state

2012-03-25 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I propose replacing the PGS coastlines (largely imported by blars) in Northwest Washington state with GeoBase coastlines. GeoBase data covers part of NW Washington state (e.g. Canadian NHD area 08HAD00 covers the Washington

[Talk-us] Remapping coastlines

2012-03-24 Thread Toby Murray
Paul Norman has been looking at coastlines as it relates to the license change. Turns out we have a big problem along the west coast. Does anyone know what the best usable source for coastline data in the US is? Surely there is something better than PGS? I poked around looking at some NHD data but

Re: [Talk-us] Problem user

2012-03-24 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 3/24/2012 9:06 AM, Alexander Jones wrote: What do we do about user balrog-kun? He apparently declined the new terms, but he is using an alternate account that has accepted the new terms. He is a prolific editor in the areas I

Re: [Talk-us] Remapping coastlines

2012-03-24 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 3/24/2012 4:22 AM, Toby Murray wrote:  I poked around looking at some NHD data but didn't see an explicit coastline data set. I believe feature code 44500 (Sea/Ocean) is what OSM would call Coastlines - and normally

Re: [Talk-us] South Carolina North Carolina border shifting to the South

2012-03-23 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:35 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I just saw this mentioned on MSNBC and thought I would let everybody know about this since we would have to adjust the border in the future when it becomes official.  It seems that North Carolina will gain 150 feet of

Re: [Talk-us] We have less than a week left to remap!

2012-03-22 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:00 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: The 27th? Damn.  I thought it was going to go read-only on the 1st...  At least that's what I've been telling people who I've been contacting to see if they will accept the new CT (which is still being somewhat

[Talk-us] We have less than a week left to remap!

2012-03-21 Thread Toby Murray
I don't think this has been reposted to talk-us yet. According to the latest license change rebuild plan, the database will enter read-only mode on March 27th for the license rebuild: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Rebuild_Plan So that gives us a matter of days to do any more

[Talk-us] Remapping from TIGER 2011

2012-03-11 Thread Toby Murray
Yesterday I did a serious bit of remapping from TIGER 2011 data in the LA area. I wanted to see what the process would be like and how much I could get done in a reasonable amount of time. I just wrote up a quick blog post about it and would welcome any comments on the subject.

Re: [Talk-us] Contacting non-responders with less than a month to go

2012-03-07 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2012-03-06 23:09 -0600]: kyrbyboy with edits New Jersey I tried to find kyrbyboy elsewhere online and found likely accounts on tripadvisor.com and city-data.com.  Neither yielded a reply

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