Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm do it anyway. Ok I can't prommise any donations but I am part admin of a podcast site, I can submit material for inclusion, I can probably promote the project heck could even get my own section basedon that project if I wished at least I think I can. At 06:32 a.m. 3/03/2010, you wrote: >thi

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread shaun everiss
yeah it did other things to. At 06:11 a.m. 3/03/2010, you wrote: >Here here. I've saved up and purchased all of my assistive tech over the >years. No group of people is entitled to things for free just because of what >may be wrong with them. Remember that virus that disabled all of the pirated

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread shaun everiss
thats a point actually my brother uses google maps all the time. At 05:33 a.m. 3/03/2010, you wrote: >Has anyone approached loadstone about adding the googlemaps/earth api's? >street view and directions are availible in many countrys. you add the >loadstone user POIS to the google maps api and po

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Doug Langley
this is something I've been pondering for the last 2 weeks after a conversation with onj the Asterisk pbx uses a bounty system to get stuff done. So, basically you take donations for 3-9 months, then offer the money to developers to complete the project. and the project that I invision is an ope

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Onj
I hear ya there Steve. I didn't admittedly buy my screenreader, but nore did I crack it. Being on the beta team has it's advantages and if I had the money and a lot left over, I'd gladly buy it because I like it. I've successfully stired up a can of worms with this post though, just as I inten

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Stephen Clower
Here here. I've saved up and purchased all of my assistive tech over the years. No group of people is entitled to things for free just because of what may be wrong with them. Remember that virus that disabled all of the pirated copies of JAWS a couple years ago for Christmas? I'd really like to

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Brandon Hicks
That would be the best, and if I had the knowledge I'd do it or talk to them about it. Hopefully someone will, because Loadstone could be good if it just streamlined the process of getting maps and POIs and got access to the better maps from Google. Doug Langley wrote: Has anyone approached lo

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Doug Langley
Has anyone approached loadstone about adding the googlemaps/earth api's? street view and directions are availible in many countrys. you add the loadstone user POIS to the google maps api and poi's and you actually have something going. google maps is the best source for free maps. if people do

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Brandon Hicks
Not to mention most of those people aren't in countries Vodaphone serve. So there's another lack of insentive. Now if you had 700 blinks who were going to break contracts with them over it they might think again but as it is that's not going to happen. Vodaphone have nothing to gain and everyth

RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Amanda Rush
Thanks for the compliment Doug. Now let me open up another can of worms. I'm not necessarily going out of my way to piss people off, but if it happens, oh well. I think that, to a large extent, a lot of blind people think they're entitled to accessibility from the private sector, and not only that

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Doug Langley
Also, the WFA concept of free life time upgrades also put a nail in its coffin. Wheres the insentive for Vodaphone to develop a program which wont bring them any sort of positive cash flow? This is a gps program and it needs updated data on a regular basis and wheres the insentive for vodaphon

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Doug Langley
I'm glad to see someone else with a brain. No one ever takes these internet petitions seriously. I signed it but only because it can only help more than hurt. That being said, if people spent as much time working on a new solution instead of trying to save an old dieing one we would probably al

RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Amanda Rush
K this is a record. I was turned off by about the second line of this guy's message. I totally get being angry about accessibility or the lack thereof, but begging for signatures is like begging for charity. Neither one works very well, and getting angry with the people you're trying to get signatu