Re: two way contracted Braille input on Braille displays

2016-10-19 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I have the Alva BC 640, and I tried doing contracted braille input with window eyes. I found that it didn't work. Then I was told that window eyes didn't support braille input. Pam. -Original Message- From: Kevin Huber via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 12:39 PM To: Doug

Re: two way contracted Braille input on Braille displays

2016-10-19 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
When I was talking about not being able to do contracted braille input into the computer via the Alva, I was talking about standard grade two. If I am writing in the notes section of the Alva, using it like a notetaker, I can write in grade two. But if I have it hooked up to the computer

Re: TWC

2016-10-19 Thread Helen Murphy via Talk
I USE A LARG PRINT GUIDE I HAD PRINTED UP MY SELF FROM TIME WARNER CABLE On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 4:37 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote: I use Time Warner Cable. Has anyone tried to program the program guide from the web site? Also, are you aware of

RE: two way contracted Braille input on Braille displays

2016-10-19 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Maybe my below contribution reflects user inadequacy: just looking at the settings for my Alva bc640, it is not clear that braille input includes contracted, as per new UEBC requirements. Its internal Notes app, which is a primitive notepad, might accept contracted braille, but I don't use it

TWC

2016-10-19 Thread Tom Fairhurst via Talk
I use Time Warner Cable. Has anyone tried to program the program guide from the web site? Also, are you aware of manuals for controlling a remote for a cable box? Obviously, if they are, I would need the names of the remote and the box to locate them. I don’t have them now, soI’m asking for

old dos synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
hello you can play around with dos again. here is a file that lets the asap screen reader speak through NVDA in sleep mode or any dos or windows3.1 reader that supports braille n speak on com1 as its synthesizer. the link is note you need to install com0com x86 for 32bit systems x64signed

Alva 570 Pro

2016-10-19 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk
How can you get an Alva 570 Pro to work with windows 7 64 bit? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit

RE: two way contracted Braille input on Braille displays

2016-10-19 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Pam: Window-Eyes supports uncontracted braille input, specifically computer code. It will support contracted braille output. The Alva will allow you to enter computer code as driven by Window-Eyes. Best. Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk

reminiscing about old screen readers

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
I used keysoft version 1.33F in dos with a keynote gold SA external synthesizer. Then switched to windows95 with jaws3.2 and a braille blazer embosser for the synthesizer. then used a braille lite for the synthesizer until eloquence came out with jaws3.2. played around with window eyes demos

RE: Alva 570 Pro

2016-10-19 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
You may need to look for specific drivers. When I looked at the optelec site (as mentioned in another message) I did not find this display, but I have seen it as listed previously. Window-Eyes lists several 575s, one of which needs a USB converter. This indicates to me that these may have

tiny talk and flipper

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
hi no i also used or played aorund with tiny talk and flipper and smooth talker that used the sound blaster card as a tts sort of sounded like a double talk. yes its in talking dos box. -- mozilla thunderbird email client ___ Any views or

re: Audible's "The Great Courses" series and Window-Eyes.

2016-10-19 Thread David Helkenn via Talk
Hi all. Resending, as replies did not reach me. Appreciate comments from those who might know. With thanks. [dh: This may, or may not be tied into what you need. My responses will be in brackets '[]'. Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk

RE: Audible's "The Great Courses" series and Window-Eyes.

2016-10-19 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Hello Dave. I'm encouraged by your comments, so will check things out. Seems like I won't need the extra material - booklet and cd/dvd, so won't be forking out any more cash. The wish list feature of Audible is great, and is accessible to Window-eyes. As you find titles you might be

talking dos box

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
hey anyone on here used talking dos box except for me? the talking dos box i sent up to the list has windows3.1 and keysoft 1 or 2 and keynote gold multimedia install in win3.1. it also has a demo of mega dots2.0, wordperfect 5.1 and lotus 123 along with lots of text games. before you run it

RE: speech synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread CJ MAY via Talk
I originally used Dectalk Express and despite the wide choice of much more human voices, I still prefer to use Dectalk Access 32. Alison ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent

Re: history of window eyes

2016-10-19 Thread Kevin Barry via Talk
I started using Vocal-eyes 2.0 in late 1991. Hard to believe it will be 25 years soon since then. GW micro was a great company and I always love dealing with it. It doesn't look good now, and I will just say, I shall never, ever, use Jaws. I do not care about new management or new ownership. It

Re: speech synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Kevin Barry via Talk
As do I. There are many newer ones which say they are human sounding, they are not, and in my opinion they are not as clear as easy to understand as the venerable DecTalk I wish I could get it on my iPhone. On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, CJ MAY via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > I

RE: antivirus with window eyes

2016-10-19 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Drew, You might find this of interest: https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/14210/security-essentials-download All the best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Drew Clark via Talk Sent: Wednesday,

antivirus with window eyes

2016-10-19 Thread Drew Clark via Talk
Hi, sorry if this has been asked before but, what is the recommended free antivirus for window eyes? i am using windows 7 here so no built-in antivirus. i want an accessible antivirus and free. thanks -- Sent using window eyes. ___ Any views or

Re: speech synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Yes. Those voices are part of dec-talk. They just don't have the names they used to. Pam. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:15 PM To: Linette Sukup ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: speech synthesizers If you run the

RE: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Never having heard these tapes, though Doug Wakefield sure did make some great tapes, I can hazard a guess. At that time, the only synth comparable to the DecTalk was the Prose 4000. It was about the same price range, but, had a pleasant, maybe even smug-sounding voice. For the price, it could

help with orbit reader20 prototype

2016-10-19 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
hello I am testing a prototype of the new low cost refreshable braille display, orbit reader20. I am a beta tester of the product and representative of orbit research. I followed the directions putting orbit20 into remote serial mode it says it is on com4. so I chose baum vario connect on

Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
OK folks, this question strays slightly off the precise topic a smidgen, but here goes. Some of you may have been acquainted with the intro to DOS tapes made by Doug Wakefield. I thought these presentations were quite good at the time. But what I would like to know to this day is just what

RE: speech synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk
You can, sort of, its name is Fred. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 4:15 AM To: CJ MAY ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Re: speech synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I am still using the dec-talk express on my tower. I didn't notice, but there is a difference between that and the dec-talk 32. It has been said that when they were going to make the software, they lost the original dec-talk specs, and had to recreate them, so it's not as good. I have tried

Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I remember a dos tape, but I don't remember who did it. But maybe, was he using Vert Plus? I was hoping I would get that, but the Commission gave me Artic. Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:56 AM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes

Re: speech synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
It seems to me that the more human sounding they try to make the synthesized voice, the more computer like they end up sounding. I have, thank God, known, or have heard, only a few people that would fit the description, but I have heard a few people, and I'm sure most of you have at one time

Re: speech synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Loy via Talk
I started using Window Eyes with version 4, using Eloquence. I have tried many of the so called human sounding voices and none suit me. I still use Eloquence, it sounds the best to me. I can't stand the DecTalk or Espeak. - Original Message - From: Larry Higgins via Talk To:

RE: history of window eyes

2016-10-19 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Sure did! I had a TI 99/4A with the speech synthesizer, then I bought an Echo GP, and used it with the TI for a while, so I could play Infocomm Games and run in Extended Basic and do a few other things. Actually, only one game, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Then, I switched to the Apple

Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
Yes!, that is exactly how it sounded, though I never really thought of it that way until you suggested it . Thank you so much, Larry On 10/19/2016 9:17 AM, Joseph Norton wrote: Never having heard these tapes, though Doug Wakefield sure did make some great tapes, I can hazard a guess. At

Re: speech synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Reeva Webb via Talk
did't noaa switch from using vocalizer tom to neospeech Paul recently? I hate eloquence, Dectalk, espeak insert other robot voices of years past. I like the human sounding tts voices. Neospeech Kate being my favorite of all time. On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Loy via Talk

Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Tom Fairhurst via Talk
My first machine was a laptop from Computer Aids Corporation with Vocal-Eyes already on it. It had a 30-meg hard drive. I bought a 5.25 external drive. I used a desktop at my job with the same capacity. It had Vocal-Eyes with a Sounding Board synthesizer. -Original Message- From: Don

Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Donald L. Roberts via Talk
I am wondering whether I am the only list member who began with Vert Plus and later used both Flipper and Tiny Talk? Don Roberts On 10/18/2016 6:36 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: Hello, Some of you are bringing up Screen Readers I have never heard of, and I was there back in those early DOS

Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Donald: I used Vert Plus when I was working for a non-proffit agency in the late 1980s. I was training at the time and one of my clients said that it sounded like an old guy with a cigar in his mouth. Kevin Huber On 10/19/16, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: >

Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi: Just to add to this thread, My first screen reader was a package called Freedom1 from a company called Interface Systems International and I used the Votrax PSS as my speech synthesizer. The Freedom1 package came with a tutorial on a casset tape by someone from Interface Systems

Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
I really think I'd have to go with Joseph's suggestion. As he said, it had a rather smug form of expression or inflection, and I can't disagree with that assessment or critique. But I'm fairly certain that it wasn't the Vert Plus, because I worked with that one a time or two, and it sounded

Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi: The thing that made me come to that conclusion was a tape Doug made for TSI (TeleSensory Systems, Inc.) about their screen-reader called Vert Plus was called Valedictory Speech. In the tape, Doug had Vert Plus (using the Prose 4000) speech synthesizer sounding as if he was giving a

Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Don H via Talk
My first screen reader was called Enable Reader and my syn was a Votrax PSS if I remember right. I also remember paying $500 for a 20 Meg internal hard drive so I did not have to use 5 1/4 floppy disks to run the machine. Of course that was a DOS machine

RE: speech synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
To add to this, Dennis Klatt invented the Klat-Talk algorithm (which is available in the public domain) in the 1980's based on modeling waveforms of his own voice through a computer. DECTalk is derived from Klat-Talk, as is Macintalk on the Apple platform, though the two projects quickly

Re: two way contracted Braille input on Braille displays

2016-10-19 Thread Doug Geoffray via Talk
Thanks Kevin, I was thinking it was one of the Alva displays but I wasn't sure and even if it was, exactly what model. Doug On 10/19/2016 12:39 PM, Kevin Huber wrote: > Hi Doug: > > I think the braille display that you are talking about is the Alva > 640. As far as I recall, the Alva 640

Re: speech synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Linette Sukup via Talk
The Kate and Paul voices in Kurzweil 1000 are pretty good. In previous versions, the Neospeech voices were good, also, but they conflicted with a screen reader voice and caused one's system to lock up. Peace. Linette On 10/19/2016 8:55 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: It seems to me

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-19 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi: OK already! Let's stop this useless chatter about something that we can't control. For right now, we still have our Window-eyes so let's get back to helping each other work out our problems with Window-eyes, and then cross whatever bridges are to be crossed when we get to them. Kevin Huber

Re: two way contracted Braille input on Braille displays

2016-10-19 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Doug: I think the braille display that you are talking about is the Alva 640. As far as I recall, the Alva 640 alows for contracted braille input. Kevin Huber On 10/18/16, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote: > Hello Roger, > > Wow, it has been a long time. I was not

RE: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Lee Hodgson via Talk
These memories are great. Well persnally I used first of all a little program at college called word star then went on to word perfect. Screen reader wise, I used to have an apollo synth with Hal. Then when I got my own pc, I had good old vocal eyes, and when I went to windows, went straight

Re: Reminiscing about old Screen Readers and Synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Jim via Talk
Hi THere! My first synthesizer was a very old Type & Talk. There was only one control for volume rate and pitch. There was no speaker so I had to use headphones. The worst thing about it was it's awfdul sound. I finally graduated to an Accent SA which I use for many years in colledge as

Re: Fw: Re: How do I read PDFs in windows 10 please

2016-10-19 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Just blame it on the wine. :) Kevin Huber On 10/16/16, Martha via Talk wrote: > Sorry - wrong recipient. Ignore it. Do I blame BECKY! or the glass of > red wine? > > > Forwarded by Martha > --- Original Message

Re: best antivirus with window eyes

2016-10-19 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Drew: I use Microsoft Security Esentials. I have used Nod32 in the past, but I don't know how accessible the latest version is. Kevin Huber On 10/16/16, Drew Clark via Talk wrote: > sorry if this is repeated but, what is the recommended antivirus that > is

Re: speech synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Kim Lingo via Talk
I think the Expressive voices from Vocalizer are just fine. I realize that there are probably ones out there that sound more human (or is hu-person these days, Grin?) I used Alex on my I-phone and think that sounds pretty good. I've since downloaded a newer one that I guess came out with