Re: Going forward not RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-02-14 Thread Jim via Talk
Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 1:33 PM To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Steve Nutt' Subject: RE: Going Backward in Accessibility? Actually, in Office 2016, it's even easier than that. All you have to do is press alt-q

Re: Going forward not RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-02-14 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
7 1:33 PM To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Steve Nutt' Subject: RE: Going Backward in Accessibility? Actually, in Office 2016, it's even easier than that. All you have to do is press alt-q and you'll be placed in the "Tell me wh

RE: Going forward not RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-02-12 Thread Ivan Cribb via Talk
February 2017 2:39 AM To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Going forward not RE: Going Backward in Accessibility? Why is it that we keep putting out these negative subject lines. >From my point of view Window Eyes is still working, it is still

Going forward not RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-02-11 Thread Veronica Smith via Talk
inn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 1:33 PM To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Steve Nutt' Subject: RE: Going Backward in Accessibility? Actually, in Office 2016, it's even easier than th

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-19 Thread Steve Jacobson via Talk
Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Steve Nutt [mailto:st...@comproom.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:38 AM To: steve.jacob...@visi.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Going Backward in Accessibility? Hi Steve, I would disagree. I can often find things in

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-19 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk >> Sent: 15 January 2017 20:29 >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Going Backward in Accessibility? >> >> Ste

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-19 Thread Jim via Talk
steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: 15 January 2017 20:29 To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Going Backward in Accessibility? Steve, This is a useful tip, and I was not trying to assume anything. My point, though, was that we a

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-19 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Going Backward in Accessibility? Steve, This is a useful tip, and I was not trying to assume anything. My point, though, was that we adopt strategies to be efficient that may depend upon a number of less obvious features of programs.

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-19 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
One thing, in Becky if you wish read-to-end to work again, you can change, under general settings, the third page of options, (message view), the HTML option that "convert to plain text, to use, instead, the IE5 view which is the second from the top of 3 radio buttons. Then your read-to-end keys ar

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-15 Thread Kim Lingo via Talk
To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Going Backward in Accessibility? For years, Music keybords have ben off limits due to those screens. I haven't looked at keyboards for about four years now, but before then, there was a huge amount of memorization required to use so

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-15 Thread Dave via Talk
For years, Music keybords have ben off limits due to those screens. I haven't looked at keyboards for about four years now, but before then, there was a huge amount of memorization required to use some keyboards. And no matter what was memorized on other keyboards, they would be off limits to

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-15 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 2:34 PM To: Steve Nutt ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Going Backward in Accessibility? Tab to what? And do what? I have never seen any tell me what to do edit box. Pam. -Original Message- From: Steve Nutt via Talk Sent

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-15 Thread Steve Jacobson via Talk
ssion List' Subject: RE: Going Backward in Accessibility? Hi Steve, You're assuming though that everyone has to go the long way round to access ribbons and options within them. In Office for example, you don't need to access the ribbon when you can't find something. Just bring

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-15 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Tab to what? And do what? I have never seen any tell me what to do edit box. Pam. -Original Message- From: Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 1:48 PM To: steve.jacob...@visi.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-15 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: 13 January 2017 16:53 To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Going Backward in Accessibility? Peter and all, While I mostly agree with you, especially given that we have fairly good accessibility built into products that are much

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread peter Chin via Talk
to play music are going to face similar difficulties with touch screens being implemented. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 12:53 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Going Backward in Accessibility? Peter and all

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
t;> >> >> >> >> On 1/14/2017 9:16 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: >>> And lets take a look at what Apple did with the current version of >>> Itunes. >>> It's not nearly as accessible as it was in version 11. >>> >>> -

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
, January 13, 2017 7:58 AM To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Going Backward in Accessibility? Hi Jim, There are all kinds of examples. In Becky, I once had the ability to Read to End, and now I no longer have this ability. Numerous Web Sites that once w

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Kevin Minor via Talk
Hi all. I agree with Chris to a point. We have more accessible programs than in the past, however, things could be better. I approach things with the saying, if you want to attract flies, it's better to use honey than vinegar. We need to convince manufacturers of software and other electroni

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Patricia Krinke via Talk
Thanks, Chris. Your knowledge and positivity are wonderful! Thanks, Trish -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:59 AM To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Going Backward in Accessibility? and the wo-is-me party

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Jay via Talk
> > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 4:22 PM > To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Goin

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread John Farley via Talk
@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 4:22 PM To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Going Backward in Accessibility? It's a valid concern. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 14, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Chris Skarstad via Tal

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
iginal Message- From: Dave via Talk >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:58 AM >> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Going Backward in Accessibility? >> >> Hi Jim, >> >> There are all kinds of examples. In Becky, I

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
current version of Itunes. It's not nearly as accessible as it was in version 11. -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:58 AM To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Going Backward in Accessibility? Hi Jim, There are all kin

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Going Backward in Accessibility? Hi Jim, There are all kinds of examples. In Becky, I once had the ability to Read to End, and now I no longer have this ability. Numerous Web Sites that once were reasonably accessible, now require more effort on my part to find the same information. Ebay is a s

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-13 Thread peter Chin via Talk
far...@btinternet.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Going Backward in Accessibility? Hi there Dave and Group! Dave, can you site some examples of what you are talking about -2 steps forward and 3 back or 3 forward and 2 back? I have been using Window-Eyes since version 5.1 and every

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-13 Thread Neville via Talk
I totally agree with you Dave regarding software and appliances. It is impossible for me to use our large convection microwave because, depending how fast the knob is turned,the time setting jumps by differing amounts. Instead, I had to purchase a simple smaller microwave with a glass panel a

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-13 Thread Peter Duran via Talk
eter Duran -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+peterduran2015=outlook@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 11:53 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Going Backward in Accessibility? Peter and all,

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-13 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
You are so right, and have you looked at stereo systems lately? Same old, same old, read the display. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Fri, 13 Jan 2017, Dave via Talk wrote: Hi Jim, There are all kinds of examples. In Becky, I once had the ability to Read to End, and now I no lo

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-13 Thread Steve Jacobson via Talk
Peter and all, While I mostly agree with you, especially given that we have fairly good accessibility built into products that are much more complicated than those of fifteen or twenty years ago, I think we are often affected more by change than are sighted people. There needs to be some thought

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-13 Thread Dave via Talk
Hi Jim, There are all kinds of examples. In Becky, I once had the ability to Read to End, and now I no longer have this ability. Numerous Web Sites that once were reasonably accessible, now require more effort on my part to find the same information. Ebay is a simple example. I once could

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-13 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Peter, I enjoyed your post very much. Having just completed my 19th Window-Eyes app, I do hope that whatever Windows screen readers survive, I hope it will be as easy to write apps for them as It has been for me to do with Window-Eyes. Keep up the good work, and all the best. (smile) Peace

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-12 Thread brice Mijares via Talk
Are you using windows ten? Window eyes does not perform as it did in previous versions of windows. The mouse pointer and invisible curser are nearly useless! In my case, I have to use the rename folder or file function in order to find out how the folder or file is spelled. Can't do it no long

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-12 Thread Jim via Talk
Hi there Dave and Group! Dave, can you site some examples of what you are talking about -2 steps forward and 3 back or 3 forward and 2 back? I have been using Window-Eyes since version 5.1 and every major update has given a great deal more functionality to the program as well as the user as f

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-12 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
that's how life goes, folks. Change is inevitable and you have to figure out how to go with it. Whining on an email list ain't gonna solve jack. . On 1/12/2017 11:03 AM, John Farley via Talk wrote: And do you think that the world of television, domestic appliances, automobiles etc. are any

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-12 Thread John Farley via Talk
And do you think that the world of television, domestic appliances, automobiles etc. are any different. The VI community are not immune from change. Regards, John Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinter