[OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Simon Poole
As we've mentioned multiple times over the last months, the LWG decided last year to consolidate all attribution guidance in to one document and address some of the use cases that have become common over the last 7 years that previously had none. Particularly in the light of the parallel

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 09 August 2019, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > It does not in any way address the problem of second rate > > attribution (i.e. someone else - usually the service provider of > > the map service or the media outlet publishing the map) is being > > attributed more prominently than OSM. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 09 August 2019, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: > I think we move in different mapper communities as "mapping for the > reward of being recognized by external data users" has never even > been on my list, or of those mappers I know, of reasons for why we > map. Please don't twist my

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 08:41, Simon Poole wrote: > to consolidate all attribution guidance in to one document Some thoughts: > www.openstreetmap.org/copyright openstreetmap.org/copyright (without "www") works, and should be preferred (several occurrences). > Our requested attribution is "©

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I wonder if we could perhaps get rid of the "Contributors" mention altogether. The term "OpenStreetMap Contributors" is the unwieldy; it just sounds strange to say "this is a map made by OpenStreetMap contributors" when what we really want to say is "this is OpenStreetMap". When translated

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 7:35 AM Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if we could perhaps get rid of the "Contributors" mention > altogether. > I agree, I've often felt that the OpenStreetMap Contributors was unwieldy. If we agree to the change, I imagine that OpenStreetMap would need to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
I concur, this becomes long and unwieldy fast in my own language and to fully capture it requires a full sentence, with a comma for clarity even. Behind OpenStreetMap the brand we have contributors amongst others. 9. ágúst 2019 kl. 14:40, skrifaði "Frederik Ramm" : > Hi, > > I wonder if we

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
SimonPoole wrote: > the few things that are not nailed down belong to those that we > would appreciate feedback on. This is really good, and very much in accordance with both the text of the ODbL and the long-standing precedents set by the osm.org/copyright page. Thank you. Two small wording

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Nuno Caldeira
About the 50% exception. i recently had to be unpleasant with Fatmap (their app and website https://fatmap.com/), after 2 months of zero action from their side. Source https://twitter.com/iamnunocaldeira/status/1136624467000602624 after my message on the 3rd of August, they contacted me via

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Christoph Hormann
I am strongly against this in the current form because it addresses none of the major issues about corporate attribution of OSM (or lack thereof). 1) It does not in any way address the problem of second rate attribution (i.e. someone else - usually the service provider of the map service or

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Christoph Hormann wrote: > It does not in any way address the problem of second rate attribution > (i.e. someone else - usually the service provider of the map service > or the media outlet publishing the map) is being attributed more > prominently than OSM. That is not something that the ODbL

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
I think we move in different mapper communities as "mapping for the reward of being recognized by external data users" has never even been on my list, or of those mappers I know, of reasons for why we map. Of course everyones self-image is their own, so I don't know about your claim of there

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Yves
Hi Simon, This guideline is a great piece of work, thanks a lot to all the participants. Inevitably, this will be too much or not enough for anybody, however I find the content reasonable and in line with what I understood from current written expectations. A few more mockups, notably for

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Nuno Caldeira
Às 14:56 de 09/08/2019, Christoph Hormann escreveu: On Friday 09 August 2019, Richard Fairhurst wrote: It is a community guideline - a recommendation of the community on how to work with OSM data to comply with the license. No data user has to follow the guideline - the only binding document

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Dave F via talk
Hi Static Images. "Static images should be generally attributed the same way as dynamic images, " I agree & a way to enable users to easily add attribution needs to be created. The Share>Image feature on the main page should automatically image stamp the attribution into the corner. "images

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Tobias Knerr
Thank you for your work! I believe that clearly documenting our expectations is a very important step towards solving the current problems surrounding attribution. It will help well-intentioned data users to avoid accidentally messing up OSM attribution, and it leaves fewer excuses for the less

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
> Guidelines by the licensor > > On legal advice, *what a Licensor says carries weight with users of our > data and, potentially, to a judge*. A court would make a final decision > on the issue, however we hope these guidelines are helpful to *avoid *disputes > arising in the first place and can

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 09 August 2019, Dave F via talk wrote: > Hi > > Static Images. > > "Static images should be generally attributed the same way as dynamic > images, " I agree & a way to enable users to easily add attribution > needs to be created. The Share>Image feature on the main page should >

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 09 August 2019, Kathleen Lu wrote: > You are right that we hope to avoid disputes by setting out > reasonable guidelines, but if OSMF sets out guidelines that are > unreasonable and not tied to the language of the licence, then no > one, either users of the data or judges, will listen to

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Nuno Caldeira
* What's the guidance on scenarios where software does not ship with OSM data, and does not display online maps, but e.g. allows downloading map data for offline use? Would it be acceptable to make the license information part of the download process, or is it still required that attribution is

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Nuno Caldeira
So you are saying that when we switched from CC to ODbL, the bellow quote was not true? Both licenses are “By Attribution” and “Share Alike”. https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
I agree, this would be more snappy and more international. It woulrd not be necessary to translate the attribution for various languages.   By shortening the attribution, their would be less excuses to not attribute on the map.   Pierre Le vendredi 9 août 2019 10 h 40 min 27 s UTC−4,

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
Where in CC-BY-SA's license does it say that attribution must be on top of an image or that no interaction is allowed??? On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 10:17 AM Nuno Caldeira wrote: > So you are saying that when we switched from CC to ODbL, the bellow quote > was not true? > > Both licenses are “By

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
I disagree that there is no harm. The credibility point goes both ways. While no one could sue OSMF for recommending something that is not required by the license, OSMF would lose the trust of data users, mappers, and any adjudicative tribunals. And it would be misleading and harmful to anyone who

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9. Aug 2019, at 14:19, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > But you can't start requiring that "the OpenStreetMap attribution needs to > be at least on the same level of > prominence and visibility as... other data providers, designers, service > providers or publicists",

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Nuno Caldeira
Where in CC-BY-SA's license does it say that attribution must be on top of an image As written on CC-BY-SA *Attribution*. If You Share the Licensed Material (including in modified form), You must: retain the following if it is supplied by the Licensor with the Licensed Material: 1.

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 09 August 2019, Kathleen Lu wrote: > I disagree that there is no harm. [...] Not sure if you noticed but my argument was the inherent asymmetry of the situation when creating a guideline with recommendations. If there is harm like "hurt feelings" from erring on the side of caution in

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 09 August 2019, Kathleen Lu wrote: > > "reasonably calculated" means "reasonable." [...] I am sorry but this is completely distorting the ODbL. "reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, ... aware" means that the calculation on what effect the specific form of attribution

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Nuno Caldeira
Your complaint about LiveStream is that their attribution is completely missing, not that it's behind a click. I agree that it's missing and that it should be somewhere. It's not clear at all where they are getting their data (the rendering looks like Leaflet). If they are looking into it,

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 09 August 2019, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > These new guidelines say that, for 480px+ screens, hiding OSM > attribution behind a click is not acceptable. Unless "OpenStreetMap data accounts for a minority (less than 50%) part of the visible map rendering" - which is the case for

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 09 August 2019, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > For better understanding, you claimed "this looks pretty much like > being written by corporate representatives", and I pointed out that > one of the items in point 2 that you object to was written by me in > 2012, so not a corporate

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
Your complaint about LiveStream is that their attribution is completely missing, not that it's behind a click. I agree that it's missing and that it should be somewhere. It's not clear at all where they are getting their data (the rendering looks like Leaflet). If they are looking into it, then

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Nuno Caldeira
. Plus, if anyone went to court trying to enforce something that OSMF recommended that was outside the licence, they would lose, and perhaps be forced by the court to pay attorney's fees. Maybe individual contributors might feel "scary" of the attorney fees, but probably not these

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:27 PM Nuno Caldeira wrote: > Your complaint about LiveStream is that their attribution is completely > missing, not that it's behind a click. I agree that it's missing and that > it should be somewhere. It's not clear at all where they are getting their > data (the

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: If you look at Apple Maps, and for example zoomed into some place in Denmark, there is an i-button which brings you to an overlay which has a TomTom logo and a link „and others“ while in Denmark the data is from OpenStreetMap. IMHO this second rate attribution

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Christoph Hormann wrote: > Just for understanding what second rate attribution is: For example > the map on the bottom right of: > https://www.zeit.de/politik/2019-07/strasse-von-hormus-bundesregierung-marinemission-usa-iran > printing a prominent "Zeit Online" below the map (self attribution)

[Diversity-talk] Fwd: Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap

2019-08-09 Thread Rory McCann
The OSM Foundation is trying to find out more about the OSM community/ies! Forwarded Message Subject: Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 13:59:34 +0300 From: Dorothea Kazazi To: t...@openstreetmap.org Hello, The following survey on

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar project: Press interview

2019-08-09 Thread Dan S
Hi Rob, I'd be happy to Cheers Dan Op do 8 aug. 2019 om 23:08 schreef Rob Nickerson : > > Hi all, > > I've been a bit slow to the solar mapping project but have now picked up the > baton for outreach. If we can get some press lined up do we have any > volunteers to speak with them? > >

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriets öppna data

2019-08-09 Thread Christian Asker
Hej. Det är dessvärre inte så enkelt att man bara kan plocka data från olika datakällor. Licensen på den öppna datan måste vara kompatibel med OSMs licens (ODBL) vilket i praktikten innebär CC0 eller ODBL. I en del fall har även data "skänkts" till OSM, men det innebär ju i praktiken att den

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de signalisation manquant

2019-08-09 Thread Jérôme Seigneuret
Oui c'est vrai qu'il y a aussi cette situation faite avec JOSM. C'est le cas sur les autres? Il me semble que ID refuse la fusion en cas de conflit de clé. Le ven. 9 août 2019 à 10:48, JB a écrit : > Le 09/08/2019 à 09:59, Francois Gouget a écrit : > > maxspeed=50;80 > Souvent le résultat du «

Re: [Talk-de] Wegstücke Emscher Region (NRW)

2019-08-09 Thread chris66 via Talk-de
Hallo Nora, a) Auf welche Art und Weise könnte man die vorliegenden Daten am zeiteffizientesten UND im Sinne von OSM zielführendsten einarbeiten? Import von shp-Dateien (??), manuelles Einarbeiten? Manuell, da ein Import bestehende Daten doppeln würde. b) Welches Browser-Format (zb JOSM?)

[Diversity-talk] Fwd: International Day of the World's Indigenous Peoples

2019-08-09 Thread Rory McCann
Might be interesting Forwarded Message Subject:International Day of the World's Indigenous Peoples Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 22:31:07 + (UTC) From: Suchith Anand via talk Reply-To: Suchith Anand To: Osm-talk The International Day of the World’s

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de signalisation manquant

2019-08-09 Thread JB
Le 09/08/2019 à 09:59, Francois Gouget a écrit : maxspeed=50;80 Souvent le résultat du « merge » de deux highway avec des maxspeed différents, rassemblés par défaut dans la clé finale avec un point-virgule en séparateur. ___ Talk-fr mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Rowmaps importing in South Gloucestershire

2019-08-09 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 23:06, Neil Matthews wrote: > In light of some recent edits in South Gloucestershire -- is it ok to > import unsurveyed footpaths based simply on rowmaps data? Based on the licensing information at http://www.rowmaps.com/datasets/SG/ my view would be "no". According to

[Talk-lv] Fwd: Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-09 Thread Rihards
Potenciāli interesanti - jauno "attribution" noteikumu darba versija. Noteiks, kā jānorāda autortiesības. Neizdevās pārsūtīt normāli, skat. pielikumu. Forwarded Message Subject: [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 09:41:25 +0200 From: Simon

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de signalisation manquant

2019-08-09 Thread Francois Gouget
On Thu, 8 Aug 2019, Jérôme Seigneuret wrote: [...] > vous pensez quoi de ça : > > note=#highwayspeedconflict + maxspeed=50;80 + > source:maxspeed=FR:urban;FR:rural maxspeed=50;80 Osmose n'aime pas : pas une valeur numérique. Il y a déjà un certain nombre d'erreurs à cause de champs 50;90 dont

Re: [talk-au] [Pacific] Considering future Open Geospatial conferences in Oceania

2019-08-09 Thread John Bryant
Hi Edwin, thanks a lot for that. Great to hear from you & Dominic that there is energy for FOSS4G & SotM in the Pacific :) One of the critical components for conference success is a group of energetic people who will lead the way. At this stage we're looking for those people, willing to do the

Re: [Talk-GB] Rowmaps importing in South Gloucestershire

2019-08-09 Thread Adam Snape
Hi, I'm in agreement with Rob re:licensing. The good news is that lhe OS is now fine with the OSM-compliant Open Government Licence (version 3), so if you ask the council for an updated dataset they will be able to release the data under the appropriate licence. [I was actually in the process of

Re: [Talk-de] Wegstücke Emscher Region (NRW)

2019-08-09 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Hallo Nora, etwas Sorgen bereitet mir noch diese Aussage: > Die shp-File selbst dürfen wir nur Projekt-Intern benutzen, also nicht an 3. weitergeben. Hier muss unbedingt geklärt werden, ob der Rechteinhaber der Dateien der Ableitung von Inhalten nach OpenStreetMap zustimmt, in einem solchen

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de signalisation manquant

2019-08-09 Thread marc marc
Le 08.08.19 à 17:06, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit : > Bref pour le moment je vais faire des notes: j'ai n'ai pas compris quel problème exact tu essayes de résoudre mais faire des notes pour remplacer une analyse QA me semble une mauvaise idée. autre exemple : ceux qui mettent des fixme=tel tag est

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de signalisation manquant

2019-08-09 Thread Jérôme Seigneuret
La plupart du temps ce sont des conflits de vitesses. L'autre possibilité c'est des cas de vitesse et de position de voie en lien avec le modèle lanes:* Le ven. 9 août 2019 à 10:00, Francois Gouget a écrit : > On Thu, 8 Aug 2019, Jérôme Seigneuret wrote: > [...] > > vous pensez quoi de ça : > >

[Talk-de] Wegstücke Emscher Region (NRW)

2019-08-09 Thread Nora Schramm
Hallo, ich bin neu bei OSM und Teil eines Teams des Instituts IMobiS der Universität Duisburg-Essen. Uns liegen Shape-Dateien zu den Betriebswegen in der Emscher Region (entlang des Flusses Emscher, Ruhrgebiet) vor, die wir gerne in OSM eintragen wollen. Für unsere Zwecke brauchen wir nur die

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de signalisation manquant

2019-08-09 Thread Jérôme Seigneuret
Ok je veux bien pour l'histoire du maxspeed type. C'est juste une habitude Ce que je souhaite faire c'est clairement identifier les conflits de vitesse faute de signalisation clair. L'analyse QA ne te permettra pas d'identifier les conflits d'où la double vitesse dans maxspeed. En effet c'est une

Re: [Talk-de] Wegstücke Emscher Region (NRW)

2019-08-09 Thread Volker Schmidt
Eine interessante, von vielen unterschaetzte, Methode um JOSM-Newcomer beim Start zu helfen ist editing im screen-sharing Betrieb z.B. mit Skype. Funktioniert unabhaengig von der geografischen Distanz. Bedingung ist natuerlich eine gute Internet-Verbindung. Volker (der zweite - ich sitze in

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Appel aux Nantais et environs - vérification de contributions

2019-08-09 Thread Stéphane Péneau
C'est un peu trop loin pour que je fasse un déplacement par là, mais en croisant toutes les sources disponibles, dont le forum sarah, le département, la site de la commune, je ne trouve absolument rien. Ca reste un projet, c'est tout. Je pense qu'il faut faire un/des revert Stf Le 09/08/2019

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Appel aux Nantais et environs - vérification de contributions

2019-08-09 Thread Stéphane Péneau
Le plus concret que j'ai trouvé, c'est un avis d'enquête pour expropriations, qui courait jusqu'en mars 2019. https://www.notre-territoire.com/enquete/111771 Le 09/08/2019 à 14:59, Stéphane Péneau a écrit : C'est un peu trop loin pour que je fasse un déplacement par là, mais en croisant toutes

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Traductions de page wiki OSM en français

2019-08-09 Thread gnrc69 via Talk-fr
Hello tous, Je viens de terminer la traduction en FR des pages : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Espaces_de_noms Si certains veulent faire une relecture, car mon prof de langue a encore beaucoup à apprendre, il s'appelle G...gle

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Appel aux Nantais et environs - vérification de contributions

2019-08-09 Thread Jérôme Seigneuret
oh puis il à fait ça avec une tablette? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/72531797#map=18/47.27546/-1.78570 Le ven. 9 août 2019 à 15:07, Stéphane Péneau a écrit : > Le plus concret que j'ai trouvé, c'est un avis d'enquête pour > expropriations, qui courait jusqu'en mars 2019. >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Traductions de page wiki OSM en français

2019-08-09 Thread deuzeffe
Hello, DeepL est de bien meilleur conseil que gg. HTH. -- deuzeffe On 09/08/2019 15:24, gnrc69 via Talk-fr wrote: Hello tous, Je viens de terminer la traduction en FR des pages : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Espaces_de_noms

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Track -> Chemin rural

2019-08-09 Thread Stéphane Péneau
Mon avis correspond assez bien à ton résumé. J'ajouterai qu'on n'utilise pas track pour : La voie qui permet d'accéder à des habitations La voie dans la parcelle privée qui permet au proprio d'accéder à son garage derrière la maison La voie principale qui permet d'accéder à l'entrée d'une

Re: [Talk-GB] Rowmaps importing in South Gloucestershire

2019-08-09 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Hi Neil. I contacted SG recently regarding as updated dataset under OGL v3. A Nicola Chidley from SG said I should use their set on rowmaps. An IT officer also said they were given OS copyright exemption in 2016. As it's designated paths being added other tags as well as highway should be

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriets öppna data

2019-08-09 Thread Andreas Vilén
Höjdkurvorna finns om du byter till cykellagret. Dessa kurvor är hämtade från en annan källa och finns inte i osm-databasen. Vad jag vet finns ingen aktiv datamodell för höjdkurvor på osm, och data går därmed inte heller att importera med någon form av etablerade taggar. /Andreas Skickat från

Re: [Talk-GB] Rowmaps importing in South Gloucestershire

2019-08-09 Thread ael
On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 11:05:44PM +0100, Neil Matthews wrote: > In light of some recent edits in South Gloucestershire -- is it ok to > import unsurveyed footpaths based simply on rowmaps data? Apart from the licensing issue, many of these sorts of edits are simply wrong. I had to correct

Re: [Talk-de] Wegstücke Emscher Region (NRW)

2019-08-09 Thread Volker via Talk-de
Und vor allem vorher klären, ob die Quellen OSM kompatibel sind. Am 09.08.2019 um 11:27 schrieb chris66 via Talk-de: > Hallo Nora, > >> a) Auf welche Art und Weise könnte man die vorliegenden Daten am >> zeiteffizientesten UND im Sinne von OSM zielführendsten einarbeiten? >> Import von

[OSM-talk-fr] Appel aux Nantais et environs - vérification de contributions

2019-08-09 Thread David Crochet
Bonjour Si des géographiquement-proche (Saint-Étienne-de-Montluc, à l'ouest de Nantes sur la D17)pouvait vérifier les travaux de cet utilisateur : https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Wood587 Ses contributions me semble plus que douteuses Cordialement -- David Crochet

Re: [OSM-ja] JA: Available Dataの改定提案の議論について

2019-08-09 Thread Talk-ja 経由
こんにちは、奈良の石川です。 On Thursday, August 8, 2019, 4:06:25 PM GMT+9, ISHIKAWA Takayuki (Talk-ja 経由) wrote: >(2) 今回の議論に直接含まれてはいないのですが、そもそも「用例」という語がまずいと思います。 すみません、「ではどう表記すればよいか」という提案が抜け落ちておりました。「出典」「資料」「情報源」等のどれかでよいと思います。 一応解説します。例えば、F1 という地物には T1, T2, T3, …という tags があり、それぞれ R1a, R1b; R2a, R2b, R2c;

Re: [Talk-de] Wegstücke Emscher Region (NRW)

2019-08-09 Thread Martin Scholtes
Hallo, ich ergänze mal hier: Am 09.08.2019 um 11:27 schrieb chris66 via Talk-de: > Hallo Nora, > >> a) Auf welche Art und Weise könnte man die vorliegenden Daten am >> zeiteffizientesten UND im Sinne von OSM zielführendsten einarbeiten? >> Import von shp-Dateien (??), manuelles Einarbeiten? >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Track -> Chemin rural

2019-08-09 Thread Rpnpif via Talk-fr
Le 8 août 2019, marc marc a écrit : > track à mes yeux est hors "réseau routier", c'est un chemin agricole, > forestrier, agriculture, loisir (parc). c'est typiquement le chemin que > vous ne prenez jamais en voiture malgré que la largeur le permet Que vous ne prenez presque jamais parce qu'il

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Track -> Chemin rural

2019-08-09 Thread Stéphane Péneau
Le 08/08/2019 à 14:43, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit : @Stf Pour le cas du chemin rural oui je garderai que la D56. Je ne suis pas de ton avis. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/112796056 me semble très bien en unclassified. pour l'exemple demandé. J'ai encore du travail par ici.

Re: [Talk-GB] Rowmaps importing in South Gloucestershire

2019-08-09 Thread Andy Townsend
There are certainly places where the rights-of-way as signed don't match what appears on e.g. OS Landranger - I was in one south of York just a couple of days ago. There in fact the OS data (including OS Opendata / older OS maps which have been traced into OSM) doesn't match what's on the

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Track -> Chemin rural

2019-08-09 Thread Stéphane Péneau
Le 08/08/2019 à 15:53, pepilepi...@ovh.fr a écrit : Le 08/08/2019 à 13:49, Stéphane Péneau a écrit : Le gros problème de toute cette discussion, c'est qu'il n'y a pas d'exemple, de lien vers un highway d'Osm. Non. LE gros problème, c'est que nous discutons entre français, avec nos habitudes

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Carte des limites de vitesseq

2019-08-09 Thread althio
C'est maintenant plus clair et officiel, avec une page de redirection et une annonce : https://www.itoworld.com/ito-map-announcement/ On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 13:09, Eric SIBERT wrote: > Le 29/07/2019 à 10:45, Christian Quest a écrit : > > HTTPS même 503 pour moi... le service ne semble plus

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Carte des limites de vitesseq

2019-08-09 Thread f . dos . santos
C'est très drole : ils ont inversé les liens :-) - Mail original - De: "althio" À: "Discussions sur OSM en français" Envoyé: Vendredi 9 Août 2019 14:15:37 Objet: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Carte des limites de vitesseq C'est maintenant plus clair et officiel, avec une page de redirection et

Re: [Talk-GB] Rowmaps importing in South Gloucestershire

2019-08-09 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Public_Rights_of_Way_Data_from_local_councils . While there's nothing listed there, it's definitely not ok to use the data in OSM. Rubbish. Just because one person isn't aware of a fact, it doesn't make it untrue. No one person has authority

[Talk-de] OSM-Geburtstag (und Party in Karlsruhe)

2019-08-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, morgen wird vielerorts https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_15th_Anniversary_Birthday_party gefeiert. Hier bei uns in Karlsruhe treffen wir uns um 10:00 auf einen Sekt im Geofabrik-Büro, dann wollen wir mappen gehen, ab 16:00 gibt es dann (aller Voraussicht nach)

Re: [Talk-de] Wegstücke Emscher Region (NRW)

2019-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9. Aug 2019, at 12:06, Martin Scholtes wrote: > > kann mittels access=no oder anderen Werten eine > Zugangsbeschränkung verhängt werden. besser ist private bei Wegen, die begangen werden können, aber nicht durch die Allgemeinheit, Betriebswege sind meistens

[Talk-si] divje in neustrezno spreminjanje klasifikacije poti

2019-08-09 Thread Blaž Lorger
Zdravo, Ali kdo pozna tega (https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kartog) "genija"? Zgleda da je več ali manj naključno dvignil rang poti. Marsikje je traktorske vlake, ki niso prevozne niti s terenskimi vozili, klasificiral kot normalne ceste. Mislim da bi bilo najbolje preprosto revertati

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Traductions de page wiki OSM en français

2019-08-09 Thread lenny.libre
Le 09/08/2019 à 16:06, deuzeffe a écrit : Hello, DeepL est de bien meilleur conseil que gg. HTH. +1 je l'utilise quand j'ai des trous pour le wiki de josm ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-ja] 国土地理院地図

2019-08-09 Thread kkondo
こんにちはxyzxyz2です。 国土地理院地図('https://cyberjapandata.gsi.go.jp/xyz/{std/pale}/{z}/{x}/{y}.pnd' など)に顕著なずれも見られるようです。これに従って編集作業したと思われる道路が現在の OSM にも見られます(例えば、経緯度 132.8830 35.3861 付近)。 また、新聞報道でも、「関門トンネルも位置誤り国土地理院地図50メートルずれ」日本経済新聞 2019/8/2 したがって国土地理院地図だけではなく複数のソースを参考にして編集作業を加える必要がありそうです。

Re: [Talk-GB] TfL cycle data published

2019-08-09 Thread Martin - CycleStreets
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Martin - CycleStreets wrote: I've sent a follow-up e-mail to the OSMF Licensing Working Group, which compiles all the various statements from Transport for London, and includes various e-mails where these statements were originally made, so that the LWG will hopefully be

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriets öppna data

2019-08-09 Thread Eva Lindberg
Tack Andreas, det var bra att veta om höjdkurvorna. Där jag har tittat i OSM har de 20 m mellanrum, i terrängkartan finns de med 5 m mellanrum och de stämmer bättre med verkligheten på de ställen jag har tittat. Jag vet inte varifrån höjdkurvorna i OSM kommer. Riksantikvarieämbetets öppna

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Traductions de page wiki OSM en français

2019-08-09 Thread pepilepi...@ovh.fr
Le 09/08/2019 à 16:06, deuzeffe a écrit : > Hello, > > DeepL est de bien meilleur conseil que gg. + 1 ! ! ! (https://www.deepl.com/translator) JP > > HTH. -- Si ma réponse n'a pas résolu ton problème, c'est que tu

Re: [Talk-si] divje in neustrezno spreminjanje klasifikacije poti

2019-08-09 Thread Damjan Gerl
Blaž Lorger je 9.8.2019 ob 18:34 napisal: Zdravo, Ali kdo pozna tega (https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kartog) "genija"? Zgleda da je več ali manj naključno dvignil rang poti. Marsikje je traktorske vlake, ki niso prevozne niti s terenskimi vozili, klasificiral kot normalne ceste. Mislim

Re: [OSM-ja] "state" は「京都府」じゃなくて、「近畿地方」です?

2019-08-09 Thread tomoya muramoto
Hi Jeffrey, I don't know much about nominatim technology, but `place=state` is wrong in Japan. We don't use it for now. See the addressing scheme in Japan. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Japan_tagging In this case province=京都府 region=近畿地方 is right. (Note: region=近畿地方 is not a part of