seriously want to damage all
existing maps and databases and force every tool to be changed, do you?
I suggest we remove those tags from MapFeautres and find a better way to
represent things that are not there.
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, secondary) or
even need looking up in the wiki or a template before you can use them
(tracktype=grade3).
If we can make non-scientific tags work everywhere else why deviate for
building types?
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Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb:
2009/6/4 Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de:
This may be true from an archeological point of view, but a tag does not
have to be a scientifically exact term.
I don't see the point. It was proposed a tag for a sub-feature that
occurs just in areas where English
this among
ourselves. I would like to invite a few other people to voice their
opinions.
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Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb:
2009/6/5 Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de:
No. The name just indicates that the term used to have this meaning in the
middle ages. I don't know a single example of a town referred to as Burg
today and I am still waiting for you to proof your point.
http://de.wikipedia.org
you can't take
away a tool anyway, so don't even try. But it is definitely worth
refining and pointing out proper and improper uses.
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on these you get exactly what you want.
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likely harmful way. E.g. more than 10
ways are selected or using it on ways that already have less than 10 nodes.
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to all sorts of ways so it basically only means not for cars in some areas
In short: It's a mess. :-)
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, as different groups of mappers use exactly the same
tags with different meanings. This cannot be resolved by rendering rules
or any other technicyl means.
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a bad decision.
Then you are still missing a tag for the general purpose path where you
don't know any more details except it is not a road.
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get a coherent tagging model for OSM?
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as a cycleway and I am planning to walk
on foot, I need to know whether it is an unsigned way assumed to be
suitable for cycling (then I may use it as a pedestrian) or whether it
is legally dedicated to cycling (then I must not use it as a pedestrian).
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Jason Cunningham schrieb:
I agree with the working groups idea, but disagree with membership of
the OSMF or attending SOTM being a requirement for taking part.
+1
Absolutely.
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to be moderated,
and then tend to go on for a *long* time.
Another possiblity may be to host a meeting on a Teamspeak server.
You'll need moderation, too, but spoken sentences flow much faster than
a chat.
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(if it is frowned upon as some sort of indirect
vandalism and rolled back) and you can make an organised effort to bring
a newly established tagging scheme into all major editors and renderers
in a consistent way. Right now, it is purely chaotic.
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the strict use case.
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John Smith schrieb:
--- On Wed, 12/8/09, Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote:
There is no consent on which way to go to express the strict use
case.
Does there need to be?
YES!!!
Not that this implies that I agree or disagree but strictly from a
technical point of view all you have to do
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James Livingston schrieb:
On 12/08/2009, at 3:51 PM, Nop wrote:
There is no consent on which way to go to express the strict use case.
I think the only two solutions are to either have this be country-
specific (at which point routers/renderers have to start knowing these
kinds
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Gustav Foseid schrieb:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de
mailto:ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote:
In the strict (German) use case, you need to distinguish between
bicycle=allowed/suitable and bicycle=road sign. This is not about
marking a default, this is about
.
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highway=footway (not suitable)
bicycle=dedicated (signed)
A footway for cycling is not a valid combination to me.
why not? In Germany: sign footway + additional sign: Fahrräder frei
That's yes, not designated.
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little impact. But I will be happy with any
complete and workable solution. In any way we would still have to come
to an agreement and implement it the same way in renderers and editors -
which seem near impossible.
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=designated; bicycle=designated.
Yes, this would work out. And a German bridleway would be
horse=dsignated, foot=no, bicycle=no.
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. :-)
Designated is linked to footway/cycleway and there are about 5 different
interpretations on what it means, all of them documented somewhere in
the Wiki.
Official is new and has only one meaning.
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Which of the 5 definitions of designated do you mean? :-)
Just read this topic from the beginning and you should understand.
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discussion and bypassing everybody watching
the proposals are creating chaos and are responsible for some of the
confusion we are having about apparently simple tags like footway. So
please, don't do it.
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that if an account is blocked, a vandal can simply create any
number of alternate accounts and continue his work - probably much
faster than anybody can hand out blocks.
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is high +-5m.
When I switch the device off and on again, it positions me right where I
am supposed to be. So it seems to accumulate some sort of error in its
internal calculations and needs the occational reset when it is going
wrong with great confidence
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this
indirectly be removed from JOSM altogether and having corrected many bad
direct uploads I am rather in favour of this.
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manually add such zig-zags before they learn that GPS
isn't perfect, but at least they usually learn)
How does it take care of crossing other ways without a junction point?
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or does
know how to create one? I'm completely lost there.
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Original-Nachricht
Datum: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:15:14 +0100
Von: Mario Salvini salv...@t-online.de
An: talk@openstreetmap.org
Betreff: [OSM-talk] Seamark/Marine-Tagging-Proposal open for Voting
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/marine-tagging.
Let's
. :-)
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On Sunday 29 November 2009 01:34:19 Nop wrote:
2) AFAIK the only attempt at a neutral display of the different opinions
is here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Consolidation_footway_cycleway_path
That page is far from neutral, because the only solutions it offers
refrain from
plucking apart the details. It has all been said before.
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On Sunday 29 November 2009 22:53:58 Nop wrote:
Richards view works only in the UK and fails
terribly in Germany and other countries.
Richards view works in a lot more countries than the UK. You can see it even
works in Germany by just looking at how Germany
thrown in between.
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When you are travelling longer distances with animals, you need to find
water supplies during the day. This proposal defines a tag for this
purpose. amenity=watering_place is analogous to amenity=drinking_water,
but considering the needs of animals rather than humans.
Mark dangerous locations on a way. Main focus is on the dangers
encountered by hikers and cyclists on smaller tracks and paths in the
countryside. Street hazards marked with a traffic sign could also be
mapped with this tag.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hazard_warning
addgeometrycolumn line 4 at SQL statement
Error occurred, cleaning up
Can anybody tell what the problem is?
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of that plugin or could someone with a working build environment
send the binary over?
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Proposal: Define a tag for way stations that have a stable with room for
guest horses as well as some type of accomodation for riders.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Trail_riding_station
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A body of water or water supply suitable for and accessible to animals.
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In my data processing I have so far assumed A) and never encountered a
problem.
What are the facts?
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[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Database_schema
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There is a basic dissent about the meaning of access=designated (and of
the derived use of highway=footway, highway=cycleway). This is
illustrated by repeated animated discussions on talk-de that merely
outlined the opposing opinions but remained without result. The use of
the tags in the
Richard Fairhurst schrieb:
Yay for 0.6 going live in March.
+1
Can we take this opportunity to finally disable anonymous editing?
+1
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-open discussion and vote of a badly designed tag.
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of some veteran mappers, so it produces less random results. Why do they
not care about it?
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people's patches.
(Or switch off Potlatch overnight because someone thinks its BS).
So I think this comparison is a little bit off.
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mislead by the Wiki that
suggests there was more meaning to it.
The frustrating part is spending a lot of time working out a proposal,
discussing it, actually convinving the people who joined the discussion
believing that the vote meant something.
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tags (e.g. used by more thant 50% of the
contributors) and another map features page for the rest.
This would be a considerable improvement. Splitting map features into
established by mass use and suggestions would help a lot.
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marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com schrieb:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:32:38 +0100, Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote:
marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com schrieb:
Just a note:
As a developer I am accepting the following values in the Traveling
Salesman
navigation system (case ignored):
no
false
0
not informing the people concerned by this fits right here.
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until it is too late to
comment.
In my opinion, a statement about this that is understandable to a
non-lawyer belongs not only on talk, but onto the national mailing
lists, onto the forum, onto the wiki news, the login page and any other
place where you can reach mappers.
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respecting the licence. A
ridiculous situation.
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stealing their data.
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after trying really hard.
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commercial products if he
doesn't add considerable effort and due to the DB-license everything he
adds is available to the community to build upon it, too.
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it was the latter and that is the reason why I approve
the change of the licence. I want those two lines to be true and I want
OSM to live up to them.
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approaching you and trying to sell you a new one.
I am arguing in favor of the new licence, but with the way this was
conducted I can understand everybody who feels overrun, forced and badly
informed.
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to consent to your scheme, you have to go
to them.
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Russ Nelson schrieb:
On Mar 4, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Nop wrote:
And I never heard of it until now. And wasn't in OSM when it was posted.
Fair enough, but any time you join a group there will be efforts
underway which you haven't contributed to, not know about, nor had any
effect
only seen the
peak of the iceberg. But that still gives the foundation the chance to
get something right. I am in favor of the new licence. But I don't
believe it can be done by April. The only thing that can be achieved by
April is splitting or breaking OSM apart.
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Niccolo Rigacci schrieb:
I suggest to revise the schedule, to allow a more wide debate. We
don't need a license for OSM data, we need a license for free
data.
Excellent point. I fully support that.
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to this simple point.
Actually, it *IS* your job.
That simple. You want a change. You want their consent. Your job.
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the German forum for example that just doesn't make it here yet due to
the language barrier.
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itself, this way of thinking
is unacceptable to me.
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to split off.
Shouldn't the more important question be: How many *people* do I
loose? instead of How much *data* do I loose? If we can agree on that
then I guess I really misunderstood you there.
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PS: And I really don't care how many demons you keep in your basement.
That's between
be important or it might not have been
solved yet
- When things come up as current news again, it is a good thing to
examine them again.
Therefore I think things should be raised again if there is something to
add. If it really wasn't necessary, discussion will close shortly anyway.
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Hi!
I noted that in the OSM inbox, all old messages are truncated to about
the same length. I guess this is a result of transferring them.
Are there any plans to restore them?
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Grant Slater schrieb:
check again and report.
Appears to be fixed.
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world-wide coverage is lame, too. :-[
Most people are not aware of the server power required to do this. It
ain't cheap, and getting support on a sponsored/community server takes
time and effort, too.
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on your machine.
Absolute maximum on a 32bit Windows is 1600MB, a value that works on
most machines is 1200MB.
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were right, but you probably don't even notice it.
Not at first. But you note later, when your edit has been changed into
something that you don't understand or someone sends you a notice to do
it some other way. :-(
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- generally available?
- free of restrictions on usage?
- free of cost?
- available in an open format?
- a combination of that?
In my personal opinion, PD is free, while OSM is already non-free as it
puts severe restrictions on the usage of the data.
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benötigten Worte im Englischen vorhanden,
da ist das Problem lächerlich einfach zu lösen.
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sind vorhanden, also machen wir
ohne Grund auf Deutsch weiter???
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=... aufräumen
http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-de@openstreetmap.org/msg21738.html
Auf der historic=castle Seite ist ein Umgang mit dem ruins-Flag
beschrieben, dem ich nur voll zustimmen kann. Das gehört in der Tat
gründlich aufgeräumt.
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erarbeiten und für
die exakte Wissenschaft weitere Zusatztags zu verwenden? Damit dürfte
allen Ansprüchen genüge getan sein.
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Hallo!
Garry schrieb:
Nop schrieb:
Zusammenfassend: Könnten wir uns darauf einigen, die fehlende
Basisklassifzierung OSM-konform in englischen Tags zu erarbeiten und für
die exakte Wissenschaft weitere Zusatztags zu verwenden? Damit dürfte
allen Ansprüchen genüge getan sein
wurde.
Link: opentiles.com/nop
Die Garmin-Version geht momentan nur bis zur Höhe von Berlin, eine
flächendeckende Karte folgt demnächst.
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Hi!
Andreas Labres schrieb:
Wär's irgendwie möglich, die in 16,3° Breite noch ein wenig nach Norden
auszudehnen? Weil da wär' Wien... ;)
Klar, wenn Du Deinen genauen Wunsch hier in der Liste einträgst:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:OSMC_Reitkarte#Regionstabelle
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ich keine IDs, nur die ungefähre Position.
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in meinem
Tages-Diff-Archiv suchen, wenn Du mir mal ungefaehr sagst, worum es geht.
Wäre schön, wenn Du das machen könntest.
Der Kartenausschnitt ist
http://opentiles.com/nop/?zoom=15lat=49.41123lon=11.58914
Passiert ist das Ganze zwischen dem 30.3. und dem 19.4.
Verschwunden sind die auf der
mit anderen Lizenzen. Mit der neuen Lizenz würde das besser werden, wenn
die kommt wird die Karte auch sofort wieder auf eine Ebene zurückgeführt.
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meiner Topokarte unterscheidet alle 5 trackgrades,
Pfade, Fuß- und Radwege und alle Straßentypen. Sie wurde am Stammtisch
auch schon mal von einem MTB-Fahrer als tauglich eingestuft. Ist mit
Höhenlinien und nicht routingtauglich.
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Hi!
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb:
in Ludwigsburg stehen in der Stadt Säulen als Touri-Info mit als
Elektronischer Auskunftsplatz an vielen Ecken.
tourism=information
information=terminal
Und information proposal Seite erweitern.
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