Re: [OSM-talk] Failed water proposal reversal

On 6/22/2016 4:17 PM, Tomas Straupis wrote: My question/proposal was about what to do with failed proposals in general. That is: 1. How to identify a "failed" proposal 2. What to do with it My proposal for point 1 is: If after say two years new schema does not get at least equal tagging count as

Re: [OSM-talk] Need to revert a bunch of changesets

On 6/26/2016 5:06 PM, Michael Reichert wrote: Hi Robert, Am 26.06.2016 um 06:10 schrieb Robert Helvie: I don't know about any other edits the user has made, but the ones in the Sejong area really should be reverted. It is a shame, because the other data they add such as names and address info c

Re: [OSM-talk] NASA sites

On 6/28/2016 1:52 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2016-06-27 17:32 GMT+02:00 Ethan Nelson >: I would agree with leaving NASA out of the name=* tag as we similarly don't name Fort Meade as ''United States Army Fort George G. Meade'' [0]. [0]

[OSM-talk] OSM wiki page descriptions of sports tags

Hi In the OSM wiki pages of sports there are 2 main types of descriptions present; 1) sport=filed_hockey description: Field Hockey https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dfield_hockey The description is simply the name of the sport, with no additional information. 2) sport=austr

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Automated edits code of conduct

On 7/11/2016 11:45 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Il giorno 11 lug 2016, alle ore 14:01, Éric Gillet ha scritto: I agree that survey are that on-premise survey is the best review method. But then you are adressing armchair mapping as a whole and not specifically search-a

Re: [OSM-talk] What pointing device you use for mapping?

I have not used a graphics tablet .. yet. They are popular with graphic artist I believe. However I have used a fair few track balls, mice and touch pads. Touch pads have gotten better over time, their buttons though do ware out rapidly! Mice .. very much second choice to a good track ball.

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

On 7/14/2016 7:14 PM, Éric Gillet wrote: 2016-07-14 6:12 GMT+02:00 tuxayo >: On 13/07/2016 09:25, Éric Gillet wrote: > I will summarise what course of action I think would be appropriate to > follow : > > * It's not clear whether AE CoC terms a

Re: [OSM-talk] non-temporary usage of highway=road

On 27-Sep-16 05:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Il giorno 27 set 2016, alle ore 08:07, Simon Poole > ha scritto: Use of it, IMHO, doesn't really make sense at all any more, particularly if you have imagery available, a conservative best guess plus

Re: [OSM-talk] Strange location reading

On 28-Sep-16 04:44 PM, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: On 27.09.16 21:51, John Eldredge wrote: This past weekend, I made a long road trip. At one point, while in a highway rest stop, I checked Google Maps to see how far I had come. To my surprise, it showed me at a different rest stop, about 200 miles

Re: [OSM-talk] Local guidance for finding places (Insarro, Ethiopia..)

On 04-Oct-16 10:23 AM, Ben Discoe wrote: There is a popular local restaurant which says on its website, "Many ingredients and spices are brought directly from the town of Enssaro in Ethiopia" Curious, I looked for this town in OpenStreetMap. Nothing exists with that spelling, Ask at the resta

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

On 25-Oct-16 01:01 AM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: I, for one, think that hunting areas don't really belong to OSM. Or at least benefits are outweighed by problems. OSM was initially aimed at mapping streets. Do not limit the development of OSM in any direction! IF someone wants to give an indica

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

I would use the 'Open Data from official sources' to confirm the 'on the ground' public signage. A conflict should lead to further investigation/thought. On 25-Oct-16 10:45 AM, john whelan wrote: A very interesting comment, considering the lengths we seem to go to to avoid importing Open D

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

On 02-Nov-16 10:57 AM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: The rules for routing appear to be mostly global for popular routers. There is very little magical sauce, if any. You can try many routers from osm.org main page. OSRM, for instance, avoids track at all times, unless access=destination (or more part

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

On 02-Nov-16 09:40 AM, john whelan wrote: Obviously if I select bicycle it won't use motorway or footway but in general which highway types are used? Some motorways and footways are used by bicycles ... access can be signified by the tag bicycle=yes. Highway=road is avoided by some as it is

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

On 02-Nov-16 08:16 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Michał Brzozowski wrote: The rules for routing appear to be mostly global for popular routers. There is very little magical sauce, if any. I wouldn't say that. Obviously the demo instances for OSRM and GraphHopper use their own vanilla profiles, b

Re: [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

Targeting Pokemon contributors falls into a trap... the assumption that a particular activity/group are all inclined to vandalism. These new contributors could be very usefull ... if 'we' don't tar them all with abusive thoughts. On 28-Dec-16 10:50 AM, Rod Bera wrote: Hi Andy, just to make

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated wifi=* edits

On 10-Jan-17 11:17 AM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: 2017-01-09 21:08 GMT-03:00 Andy Mabbett : On 8 January 2017 at 14:04, Jakob Mühldorfer wrote: this is a question about automated edits of the "wifi" key. The goal would be to have all these converted to "internet_access" keys. To change wi-fi=yes

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

It is 'nice' to see the progress of OSM. Rather than a yearly thing .. every 7 years might be ok, there was a TV program on some children progressing into adulthood .. think that was done every 7 or so years too. On 29-Jan-17 05:12 AM, François Lacombe wrote: Hi Martin, Thank you, great job

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

On 16-Feb-17 10:52 AM, Paul Norman wrote: On 2/15/2017 2:51 PM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: There is a comparison map where you can see the changes: https://osmium.osm2pgsql.paulnorman.ca There are some notable holes, for example in the woods of Scandinavia. It would be great if they are gone by the

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate ways in multipolygon relations

More Problems 1) Source .. the source tags can be in the relation and not the way ... Change the way to the new source and yet the other relations all say it is some other source. My conclusion is that the source should be on the way. 2) Are the other relations, that refer to this way, that

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam reporting

On 23-Feb-17 01:28 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 13.08.2016 16:10, Ruben Maes napisał(a): On vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 15:47 Daniel Koć wrote: What should I do with clear spam acconts/comments like this?: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/thepackersmoversdelhicom http://www.openstreetmap.org/use

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering hill figures

On 27-Feb-17 08:12 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2017-02-26 23:07 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett >: The Fovant badges http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.05348/-1.97971 somehow you should con

Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon source tags preferred method

You will have an objection from me! Source tags on features within the OSM data base have not been depreciated to my knowledge.. if they were I would more to revert that depreciation. On 28-Mar-17 01:06 AM, nwastra wrote: Jochen, ridding the osm of these unnecessary source tags seems like a

Re: [OSM-talk] A forest ... what?

The subject question ... To me: An OSM forest is what? OSM uses landuse=forest ... so the and is used for forestRy (note the R) ... to grow trees and use them for some human productive activity ... like eventually making paper. An OSM wood ? Here OSM uses 'natural=wood' so a place where a

Re: [OSM-talk] "NRCS basic OSM training" - low quality changesets in Nepal

On 23-Jun-17 02:45 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 22 June 2017, Ben Discoe wrote: BTW, the likely reason I didn't see changeset comments is that my active OSM account ("bdiscoe") is registered to an old, hard-to-reach email address (b...@vterrain.org), and (so far) OSM won't let me ch

Re: [OSM-talk] "NRCS basic OSM training" - low quality changesets in Nepal

On 23-Jun-17 12:49 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: So Warin's proposal should use +, not dot. With plus you can append anything, with dot the other characters should remain the same. m Yep. + not dot. I just tried it .. the+ works If you use thunderbird for your email, the + still comes in to your i

Re: [OSM-talk] class=bicycle usage

On 16-Jul-17 08:45 AM, Rodrigo Rodríguez wrote: I'm wondering whether I should use the "class=bicycle" to map those ways where I usually ride on my bike If other cyclists use these ways too ... then it is a 'route' and should be mapped as such. Not a question of cycle lanes .. but of use by

Re: [OSM-talk] Mystery structure on a South China Sea reef

On 31-Jul-17 09:42 PM, althio wrote: On 31 July 2017 at 13:25, Andy Mabbett wrote: Anyone fancy doing a survey? ;-) No, thank you all the same :) One of the new aircraft carriers could pass by on their 'right of passage' trip. Someone on board might be able to do a visual survey. __

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

The guidelines were formulated for data additions. This should guard against things being entered into the data base that are questionable. This is a data deletion - a very different thing. In this case it is required, ethically at least. I have looks at some 6 in 'my area' and they all shoul

Re: [OSM-talk] a sample panoramic aerial image for 3D mapping made with the new DJI Spark quad-copter

On 03-Sep-17 12:53 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 1 September 2017 at 14:37, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: I received today my new DJI Spark quad-copter and made a panoramic aerial image with it: Impressive pic. Curious about the drone, I found this review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eYGih

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

On 06-Sep-17 07:28 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2017-08-30 11:56 GMT+02:00 Richard >: On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:53:43PM +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > This really needs routers to be able to route over areas, the same issue exists over large areas of

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

On 25-Sep-17 07:49 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Monday 25 September 2017, Frederik Ramm wrote: Oh, in case I wasn't clear - what I said above was not with irony; indeed, for my personal use, I want a map that shows me names I can read. Which, I assume, everyone does. Yes, of course - we need

Re: [OSM-talk] A thought on bot edits

On 06-Oct-17 02:37 PM, JB wrote: Le 05/10/2017 à 22:50, Yuri Astrakhan a écrit : I like the "bot=no" flag, or a more specific one for a given field -  "name:en:bot=no" - as long as those flags are not added by a bot :) Ho… We are now manually contributing one more tag to say it was contribute

Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific paper on "Information Seeding"

On 10-Oct-17 09:07 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Monday 09 October 2017, Frederik Ramm wrote: today I was pointed to a recent, open-access scientific paper called "Information Seeding and Knowledge Production in Online Communities: Evidence from OpenStreetMap". This open-access paper is availa

Re: [OSM-talk] Topology rules

On 27-Oct-17 12:00 AM, Joseph Reeves wrote: A problem i find is with landuse=forest. Formally, those are zones that are used for growing trees. But practically in OSM, that tag is used for any land that is covered with trees. So formally, landuse=forest shouldn't overlap with ot

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 27-Oct-17 04:51 PM, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: On 27.10.17 00:49, Dave F wrote: [...] I think you'd be hard pressed to find any area of trees which hasn't been managed in one way or another by humans; especially in the Western world. [...] There is a theory nowadays that woods should be left

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 27-Oct-17 06:52 PM, Tomas Straupis wrote: Some info on how/why forest/wood tagging is used in Lithuania. I will not give specific tags (forest vs wood, landuse vs natural etc), because in my opinion that is a secondary issue. Let's say we have tags F1 and F2. F1 is for general forests. Those

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 27-Oct-17 09:20 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I can't ignore the landcover argument in this context, and still believe the natural= key should mean: "a geographic feature", not "something natural" (as opposed to artificial). I would tag a peak with natural=peak regardless of human interve

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 27-Oct-17 09:49 PM, Tomas Straupis wrote: 2017-10-27 12:25 GMT+03:00 Dave F wrote: You appear to be differentiating based on size & location which, seeing OSM's output is visual & geospatial seems unnecessary. If we make no such distinction, then in order to be topographically correct, we

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 27-Oct-17 08:25 PM, Dave F wrote: You appear to be differentiating based on size & location which, seeing OSM's output is visual & geospatial seems unnecessary. *All* groups of trees are 'natural' so there should only be one primary tag. All "purposes" should be within sub-tags. Your d

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 27-Oct-17 09:17 PM, James wrote: landuse= man made and maintained natrual= it made itself(which is 99.9% of the time the case) Two different things. 'landuse' does not imply man made, but the use of the land. 'natural' implies made by nature, and this is hard for a mapper to be certain of

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 27-Oct-17 08:21 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: I have no idea what "landform" can be, so I don't have an opinion on that. Some land forms; peak cliff saddle ridge valley However "natural" key for trees ( https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/natural=trees maybe?) sounds perfectly valid for m

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 28-Oct-17 10:54 PM, Dave F wrote: On 27/10/2017 20:53, Warin wrote: On 27-Oct-17 08:25 PM, Dave F wrote: You appear to be differentiating based on size & location which, seeing OSM's output is visual & geospatial seems unnecessary. *All* groups of trees are 'natural

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 30-Oct-17 01:16 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 27.10.2017 00:49, Dave F wrote: The woods/forest problem is one of the worst tagging cock-ups in OSM. Indeed. The current mess is especially disappointing because it hasn't always been that way: The status quo is the result of an attempt to "improve

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 30-Oct-17 10:23 PM, Dave F wrote: On 29/10/2017 21:42, Warin wrote: And then when the trees are harvested in a forestry operation the tag natural=wood could be removed with the result that the land use would be lost.. Irrelevant, it could also be removed if it were landuse=forest

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 31-Oct-17 05:57 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 31. Oct 2017, at 00:17, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Depreciate natural=wood and introduce landcover=trees. landcover=trees is already introduced, I’m using it for years and others do the same. Just

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 31-Oct-17 07:54 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 31.10.2017 07:59, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:> one tag for what? An area with trees? A forest? How would you define> "forest"? One tag that can be used for mapping both the things currently mapped as landuse=forest, and the things currently mapped as n

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 01-Nov-17 02:26 AM, Christian Rogel wrote: "Landuse=forest" may remain for large forests off the inhabited places. No! Only if the tree area is to be used for the production of material for human use. IF not then it is not a 'land use' but a 'land cover' and should not be tagged 'land

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 01-Nov-17 09:24 AM, Stephane Goldstein wrote: B) depreciate landuse=forest and introduce a clearly defined landuse=forestry that only includes tree areas that produce base material for human use. Managed forest for product harvesting  are commonly identified as Plantations,

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 01-Nov-17 03:10 PM, Stephane Goldstein wrote: On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 01-Nov-17 09:24 AM, Stephane Goldstein wrote: B) depreciate landuse=forest and introduce a cle

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 02-Nov-17 02:31 PM, Stephane Goldstein wrote: If OSM were to have landuse=plantation there would need to be a further tag plantation=cotton/tobacco/coffee/sugar_cane/trees/banana///house/bushes/* Do you have any other words that smean tree planting, growing and then harve

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 02-Nov-17 05:42 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 02.11.2017 o 07:14, Warin pisze: On 02-Nov-17 02:31 PM, Stephane Goldstein wrote: Do you have any other words that smean tree planting, growing and then harvesting?? And don't mean anything else? The closest I have is 

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 02-Nov-17 08:49 PM, Lester Caine wrote: On 02/11/17 09:13, Tomas Straupis wrote: IMHO there are semantic implications in the key, as has been said many times, <...> And that is subjective -> nobody is wrong -> everybody is right -> everybody thinks THEIR proposal is the right one -> this

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 02-Nov-17 08:58 PM, Tomas Straupis wrote: 2017-11-02 11:24 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis wrote: The current situation is not helping in producing useful maps. Too often I find myself in a residential area with large gardens and trees when I expected to find a real forest based on what OSM is displayin

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

On 02-Nov-17 09:21 PM, Lester Caine wrote: On 02/11/17 09:40, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: ONE tag to say what? You are still owing an answer to this. I think the problem is similar to the multiple areas problem. There are several layers of complexity so should landuse=residential enclose the who

Re: [OSM-talk] Odd mapping in Atar Mauritania

On 09-Nov-17 07:47 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 8. Nov 2017, at 18:47, Andy Townsend > wrote: This is certainly how the centre of London got mapped, and many other places too I suspect we still have some of them lingering around in the mid

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki Proposals: An OSM Echo Chamber?

There is a specific OSM list for tagging .. where proposals are discussed, etc. This is in addition to any wiki discussion! The proposal process should get contributions from those interested in tag improvements and additions. But OSM does allow the creation of new tags by anyone without goin

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki Proposals: An OSM Echo Chamber?

On 05-Dec-17 08:42 AM, Yves wrote: I like the idea of voting to praise a good documentation. The tools are available in the wiki, so why not try it out on a non debatable tagging scheme (maybe landcover wouldn't be a good idea for a try). Yves There is usually room for improvement in any doc

Re: [OSM-talk] shop windows on differnt streets

On 28-Dec-17 08:55 AM, Greg Morgan wrote: On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Catonano > wrote: I hope this is the right place to ask about tagging There s this shop that has shop windows on 2 streets https://imgur.com/a/icpwJ Some of its shop window

Re: [OSM-talk] Limitations on mapping private information

On 15-Feb-18 12:29 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2018-02-14 14:10 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny >: On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 00:50:32 +0100 Tom Pfeifer mailto:t.pfei...@computer.org>> wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Limitations_on_mapping_priv

Re: [OSM-talk] Villages with no highways

In Papua New Guinea there are villages without roads ... people there travel by foot, plane or boat! The terrain is such that vehicle roads, even for bicycles, is impractical. I don't have detailed knowledge of Africa to say if these villages could be real or not... but I would hesitate to del

Re: [OSM-talk] Android program with a custom map style

On 07/05/18 00:45, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking for an Android application that has bicycle-focused map style available offline. I am looking for features like - ability to distinguish road based on surface (=sand =dirt =asphalt should be easy to distinguish) In OSMAnd there is a sett

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

On 04/06/18 18:51, Maarten Deen wrote: Less than a second to something usable? Sure, it displays the O logo within a second, but on my phone (quad core 1.3 GHz ARM Cortex A7) it takes about 10 seconds to get to anything usable. +1 .. probably 30 seconds on my old phone with a map of some 200M.

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

On 30/06/18 15:08, Yves wrote: While there is a lot of things said here in this thread, I notice that: 1 there is very little advice in the article on how to enter names in OSM. 2 there no comment on the blog that would give advice on how to enter names in OSM. It would be the right time if O

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

On 30/06/18 01:27, Carlos Cámara wrote: Dear all, After participating in this openstreetmap-carto issue discussing to create an icon for casinos in which I stated that they should not be highlighted with an icon due to their gr

Re: [OSM-talk] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

On 02/07/18 18:52, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 02.07.2018 10:24, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: churning out buildings like demented stonemasons trying to reach their weekly quota of gamified task-managing ! I recently stumbled upon https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-6.8958/39.1623 (Tanzania

Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific paper on "Information Seeding"

On 09/07/18 18:35, Christoph Hormann wrote: And if you want to know about how to successfully map and build a local mapping community in a large and sparsely populated country and are fed up with the namby-pamby western Europeans who don't know a thing about this maybe talk to the Russians...

Re: [OSM-talk] building=grandstand vs leisure=bleachers

To me a grandstand has a roof and probably a back wall. A 'bleacher' has no roof nor walls .. it is simply seating totally exposed to the elements. On 14/07/18 16:23, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: Currently, we (de facto) have 2 tags for the same feature, which is not a proper state. https://wiki.o

Re: [OSM-talk] building=grandstand vs leisure=bleachers

The important part of that past talk thread was the question as to changing the wiki grandstand definition to say that it must have a roof rather than usually has a roof. Unfortunately both the Oxford Dictionary and Wikipedia say 'usually roofed'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandstand So

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

On 16/08/18 09:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: barrier=block is intended for barriers, i.e. they block a highway. Blocks for decorative or recreational purposes arranged at squares or on the side of streets are not covered by the tag. -1 for the proposed change. Blocks are increasing used o

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

On 16/08/18 17:56, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2018, john whelan wrote: Could this be used to detect villages and towns which have not yet been mapped. If something could drop some sort of marker where it thinks a cluster of buildings are then we could use overpass to pull th

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

On 16/08/18 19:26, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2018, Warin wrote: As that particular mapper has local knowledge on their side I'd not challenge them. Why not? I would love to see some ground level or aerial/satellite images documenting the verifiability of those out

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

If the thought is to map a group of blocks as an area .. then my vote is no at least without more information. It raises the question as to what the level of obstruction is - are motorcycles bared by this barrier? Horses? How badly are pedestrians impeded? What about people in wheelchairs? So t

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

On 23/08/18 02:37, Andreas Vilén wrote: Please don’t use name=no name. Use noname=yes. +1 name= is for the name only. If it has no name then the tag name= should not be used. /Andreas Skickat från min iPhone 22 aug. 2018 kl. 17:17 skrev Nelson A. de Oliveira : What is the best way to r

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

On 23/08/18 09:18, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 23 August 2018, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: Usually the places without a housenumber here have some kind of intrinsic distinctiveness/uniqueness. For example, an airport located in a road (there won't be 2 airports at the same road), some

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

On 23/08/18 11:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 22. Aug 2018, at 22:28, Christoph Hormann wrote: Specifying addr:street on a building that does not have an address is either pointless or non-verifiable. as I explained above, we don’t add address tags to buildings in gene

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

On 24/08/18 03:49, Philip Barnes wrote: On Fri, 2018-08-17 at 07:51 +1000, Warin wrote: If the thought is to map a group of blocks as an area .. then my vote is no at least without more information. It raises the question as to what the level of obstruction is - are motorcycles bared by this

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

On 24/08/18 18:40, Rory McCann wrote: On 22/08/18 23:40, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Wednesday 22 August 2018, Rory McCann wrote: The single most important property of an address is that it is unique 35% of addresses in Ireland aren't unique. I strongly suspect we have a different understan

Re: [OSM-talk] Extend natural=shingle tag also for city stone areas.

On 01/09/18 04:12, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: As we map different physical landcovers by eg. landuse=grass, landuse=forest No. landuse=forest is for managed areas .. not for a general tree area. use natural=wood (for the render). I place additional tags with these land cover features landuse=grass g

Re: [OSM-talk] loc_name vs. reg_name

On 18/09/18 16:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 18. Sep 2018, at 07:02, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: Is there any clarification about the difference between loc_name and reg_name? in which sense? Both tags are used for alternative names, local is smaller/narrower in scope

Re: [OSM-talk] loc_name vs. reg_name

On 19/09/18 15:28, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: Hi! Ok, basically I understand the difference between "local" and "regional". But actually I thought that this/these tags are used for names of entities which are used by locals (in contrast to the official name of something). In this case, having

Re: [OSM-talk] loc_name vs. reg_name

On 19/09/18 15:40, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: On 2018-09-18 09:26, Warin wrote: On 18/09/18 16:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 18. Sep 2018, at 07:02, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: Is there any clarification about the difference between loc_name and reg_name? in which

Re: [OSM-talk] Waterway rel with mix of line & poly

On 21/09/18 06:11, Jem wrote: Thank you both. That's very helpful. On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 22:25, Dave F > wrote: Hi Short answer: Yes There's a few problems here: Relations should not be used to collect thing together. ? That is what the

Re: [OSM-talk] Proximity

On 29/09/18 07:21, john whelan wrote: I drifted down to a government conference on open data and software today and whilst there a question came up concerning proximity to a hospital. Just a planner wondering where to put it to maximise the ease of access for as many people as possible. You

Re: [OSM-talk] Zoom to search results on the map

On 26/10/18 17:26, Maarten Deen wrote: When you search on something in the searchbox on openstreetmap.org that returns multiple results, the map moves to the first result and when you hover over the result it displays a marker. But for all the other results, you need to click to see where it is.

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

On 23/10/18 03:24, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 22. Oct 2018 16:59 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl : On 2018-10-22 16:34, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I strongly disagree, we map reality. There is no one true reality, only perceptions. There is both a true rea

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:barrier=kerb

On 17/12/18 19:38, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Fr., 14. Dez. 2018 um 17:09 Uhr schrieb Bryan Housel mailto:bhou...@gmail.com>>: The arrows indicate the “down” direction alongside certain kinds of ways. For example, cliffs, coastlines, retaining walls, kerbs, guard rails, em

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing road geometry Australia

A left turn there would be legal, unless there is a local sign. So I would not place a turn restriction on it base on satellite imagery. On 12/01/19 07:47, Jem wrote: Spot on. Although the routing engine data could impose a turn restriction here based upon geometry as part of their data pipeli

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing road geometry Australia

On 11/01/19 21:45, Markus wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 07:40, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-01-11 07:16, Petra Rajka - (p) wrote: See below two cases where we would simplify the geometry: * -32.0914374, 116.0129206 Is seen no big problem in how the roads are layed out there. Coming fr

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

On 01/03/19 09:50, Paul Norman via talk wrote: On 2019-02-28 2:35 p.m., Richard Fairhurst wrote: In recent years some OSM data consumers and "OSM as a service" providers have begun to put the credit to OpenStreetMap behind an click-through 'About', 'Credits', 'Legal' or '(i)' link. Examples:

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

On 02/03/19 10:39, Simon Poole wrote: Am 01.03.2019 um 23:29 schrieb Stefan Keller: I applaud that the LWG is undertaking an effort to sure up our attribution guidance. IMO the sentence in question MUST be changed from "should" to MUST! The, rather old, issue with that, is that it stops people

[OSM-talk] Finding a user from a tag/value?

Hi, I'd like to find out which user has contributed a key to the map ... the key has no wiki page and I'd like to know what was meant by the key and its' value. The key has low numbers .. so while there may be more than one user .. I think I only need to contact one of them. I've used Taginfo

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding a user from a tag/value?

7:12 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, I'd like to find out which user has contributed a key to the map ... the key has no wiki page and I'd like to know what was meant by the key and its' value. Use taginfo.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping dangerous bicycle locations?

The suggests values of weather related - rain/snow will change with the weather .. naturally. slippery = surface related ... could be tagged with surface=? glass-shard .. can be cleaned up, thus temporary like the weather ... I have stopped and swept things off the path .. used some cardboard

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping dangerous bicycle locations?

On 9/03/2015 9:08 PM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 09/03/2015, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: There are in places bicycle specific warning signs (e.g. "sharp curve bicylists beware") and THOSE can definitely be mapped. Agreed, we can probably draw the line on wether the hazard is signposted. And most of

Re: [OSM-talk] "Second decade" visions

On 11/03/2015 9:53 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: 4. Redesigning some key tagging schemes I think that will be one of the hardest think to change, but while tag crafting is mostly a grassroot process, we need to rethink some of them in a more systematic way. For example amenity=school should be real

[OSM-talk] Season=autumn not fall

I came across the use of season=fall .. that is American English .. I've added to the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:seasonal to reflect correct British English usage. The use of 'etc' should be avoided in giving examples .. especially where the examples are not numerous? I've

Re: [OSM-talk] Taginfo challenge

On 14/03/2015 2:57 AM, Jochen Topf wrote: On Fr, Mär 13, 2015 at 07:17:01 +, Malcolm Herring wrote: I found several cases of a key being duplicated with various capitalisations: instead of "this" they are mostly like "This" or "THIS". Could somebody make a bot to clean these? Please don't.

Re: [OSM-talk] Taginfo challenge

On 14/03/2015 5:49 PM, Jochen Topf wrote: On Sa, Mär 14, 2015 at 09:24:20 +1100, Warin wrote: Are not 'keys' always lower case? Thus any upper case there can be changed into lower case without loss of data? Tags are much more varied than you might think. And then some. See here for

Re: [OSM-talk] "Second decade" visions

On 15/03/2015 11:21 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 14.03.2015 um 23:49 schrieb mick : One issue I hope those people expending mental energy on improving the tagging scheme will keep in mind are the limitations existing in GIS packages in respect of the number of fields and the maximum field

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