Re: Cannot install 3.5 over 3.5.0.14 (or There and back again)

2005-05-24 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Mary, On 24 May 2005, 20:43 you wrote: > Anyway, in the future, I'll just remove or rename thebat.exe before > trying to do a downgrade msi install. Another useful tip... make a copy of thebat.exe in your TB! folder before upgrading, e.g. thebat-3.5.11.exe. I usually keep a few different

Re: Cannot install 3.5 over 3.5.0.14 (or There and back again)

2005-05-24 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Simon, On 24 May 2005, 19:53 you wrote: Mary>> If that doesn't work, I think I'm in Big Trouble! > Mary, delete the "thebat.exe" then run the 3.5 installer - select > the repair option - that will work... Just to confirm... this is the way to go. Note: you may not see the repair option.

Threading quirk

2005-05-23 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello tbbeta, Occasionally I receive an reply to a thread that's orphaned, e.g. (see Capture1.png.) A moment later, or after switching between folders the message has found itself back in the thread (see Capture2.png.) At first I thought I was imagining things... but now I

Re: [OT] Can any German please help with very short translation?

2005-05-20 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Manuel, On 20 May 2005, 15:58 you wrote: >> Sorry, I don't know a word in German. Can anyone translate and send it >> by PM? >>> Sehr geehrter Herr Urech, >>> wäre es möglich, daß ich die Newsletter auf Deutsch erhalten kann. >>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen > Dear Mr. Urech, > would it be po

Re: IMAP - mail lost!

2005-05-19 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Peter, On 19 May 2005, 17:00 you wrote: > on one of my IMAP accounts there were 13 new messages. > All of them had been displayed TWICE in the inbox. Well, I deleted the > duplicates and had 13 messages left. > Then I performed a purge&compress on that folder - with the result th

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Mary, On 19 May 2005, 00:13 you wrote: > If I hadn't got the "yellowish icons" from MAU, which solved the > problems that the default transparent blue ghosts were giving my old > eyes, I'd have quietly dropped back to v. 3.0.2.10 and published no > diatribes to TBBETA about it! :soapbox:

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Martin, On 18 May 2005, 19:57 you wrote: >> As Miguel says, if you don't like it don't use it. The choice is >> yours... but please spare us your diatribe. > This one is to easy - it sound like "shut up". That is not what I said. I was referring to the use of harsh language. -- As eve

Re: v3.5 status

2005-05-18 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Alto, On 18 May 2005, 12:56 you wrote: > I don't expect an answer from RIT to emails in which I accuse them of > amateurism and incompetency in their development procedures, even if > in my opinion one would be warranted nevertheless. Your constant gibes, which are unwarranted and offensi

Re[3]: IMAP in 3.5

2005-05-16 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Alto, On 16 May 2005, 13:18 you wrote: > Here it's worse then ever before. With v3.01, the connection would > block at the start and resume after a few minutes of thinking (not > transfering anything as evident from a line monitor). Now, I can have > ten connections sitting there and not s

Re[3]: RC9 Unfixed issues

2005-05-13 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Julien, On 13 May 2005, 20:07 you wrote: > Humm, I checked and re-checked and... but no. No .xml file, and no > .png file. Only a tbuser.def in the /MAIL folder, but I still have the > problem with and without it (only lose preferences) > Anyway, even a fresh clean install gives me the pro

Re: imap doing strange?

2005-05-12 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Cees, On 12 May 2005, 17:44 you wrote: > I'm noticing that messages are not being (re)loaded only the first few. And > I get a hell of a lot of duplicates Anyone else noticing this > behaviour? I have seen a few duplicates with RC8. Likewise, some messages fail to load

IMAP TBB/TBI file naming

2005-05-11 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello tbbeta, Does anyone know why IMAP TBB/TBI files use the following naming convention, e.g.: 038867D0.TBB 03F2D9B4.TBI ... It would be much better if folder names were adopted. What's the rationale behind the current naming convention? -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823

Empty message in ticker

2005-05-11 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello tbbeta, I'm still seeing the occasional empty message on the ticker... Date: 30 Dec 1899 Size: -1b It won't go away unless I restart TB! -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 "The unexamined life is not worth living." SOCRATES _

Re[2]: Current version?

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Tony, On 10 May 2005, 21:50 you wrote: AM>> It's IMAP. All about IMAP. > Thought as much. I still haven't tried IMAP, still a bit frightened :) Go on, give it a go. Try a Cwazy account; it's not Gmail (only 135MB) but you can check out IMAP for free. See http://www.cwazy.co.uk/. -- A

Re[2]: Cosmetic: Scroll Bars [was Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC7 is now available]

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Stuart, On 10 May 2005, 22:21 you wrote: MB>> Further about Scroll Bars: scaling (empty lines/white space at bottom) MB>> in Account Folder Tree and Message List still needs fixing. > Yes only if you click on the scroll bar just above the scroll button. > If you click on the scroll button

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC7 is now available

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Mary, On 10 May 2005, 20:22 you wrote: >> [-] Minor : costmetic issues > Spelling of "Sorting Office" in icon textbox of Main Window toolbar > fixed--thanks a mil, 9Val! :) Also, scroll bars working correctly for folder tree and message list. Could same fix apply to the preview pane? Cur

Re[2]: Memory usage

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Peter, On 10 May 2005, 15:04 you wrote: MWot>> I use the RTV... and switching to PTV does help. Memory usage stays at MWot>> around 30M whilst VM goes up to 305M (from ~20M.) PC remains MWot>> responsive while message loads albeit it takes about 10 seconds to MWot>> display the message. VM

Re[2]: Current version?

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Stuart, On 10 May 2005, 14:28 you wrote: MWot>> Could we have an authoritative statement on the current RC please? It MWot>> isn't helpful seeing comments simultaneously relating to RC5, RC6 and MWot>> and upcoming RC7. > Actually, there was a RC6 released that was aimed only at people >

Re[2]: Current version?

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Allie, On 10 May 2005, 13:41 you wrote: > I must humbly, politely and subserviently apologise for my contribution > to the confusion. My recent report on a crash with the subject having > RC/6 in it, was wrong. I am currently testing RC/5. There's no need to apologise... I saw from your s

Current version?

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello tbbeta, Could we have an authoritative statement on the current RC please? It isn't helpful seeing comments simultaneously relating to RC5, RC6 and and upcoming RC7. I was under the impression that we were testing RC5, i.e. what's available from http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/. Summary

Re[2]: Memory usage

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello 9Val, On 10 May 2005, 10:36 you wrote: MWot>> I exported the message and repeated again with IMAP and local folder; MWot>> same result. > Do you use RTV or PTV? Does switching help? I use the RTV... and switching to PTV does help. Memory usage stays at around 30M whilst VM goes up to 305

Memory usage

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello tbbeta, This morning my server sent an unusually large log file (30,000 lines ~ 2.6M) causing TB! to use 370M memory/VM. After switching to another folder memory usage stays at this level and VM continues to grow. Memory isn't freed after deleting/purging the message. The only solution is r

Re: IMAP: Importing messages to IMAP mailbox/folder

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Allie, On 10 May 2005, 04:02 you wrote: > I see that importing mail to an IMAP mailbox/folder leads to the > messages being added only to the local cache. Restoring the cache > deletes those messages and there doesn't seem to be a way for them to > reach the *real* IMAP mailbox/folder unle

Re[2]: AC on Remove Duplicates

2005-05-09 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Matt, On 09 May 2005, 17:10 you wrote: >> Happens about 1 out of every 2 times I try to do this... >> IMAP account - Remove Duplicates - Access Violation. >> I tested it a few times with some POP accounts but could not duplicate >> it. > Replying to myself...forgot to put in the version

Re[2]: IMAP header wow

2005-05-08 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Raymund, On 08 May 2005, 21:29 you wrote: >> I'm sure this was resolved in an earlier beta or RC... I haven't >> seen it for some time. Perhaps you need to clear the cache and start >> over? > Well, it reappeared here, too. But only after you clicked on a new mail > before TB, was ready f

Re: IMAP header wow

2005-05-08 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Gary, On 08 May 2005, 14:49 you wrote: > However, I now click on an email and a different body shows up than the one > that is in the list. So the email header in message list is associated with > the wrong body, which happens to be the next one down on message list. Upon > clicking on the

Re: Whatever happened to Alt-L???

2005-05-06 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Mark, On 06 May 2005, 18:50 you wrote: > I used to hit Alt-L to delete all the messages in a folder. > That doesn't work any longer (probably already reported by others). Is there > a way to get this working again? Ctrl+Del? -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 "The world can only b

Re[2]: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?

2005-05-05 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Mary, On 05 May 2005, 23:01 you wrote: > I did this. Unzipped to The Bat! folder, but TB! is not using them. Is > there a subfolder they should be in? (Note: I unzipped using WinRar) Check that you don't have a new folder called "Program Files" in your TB! folder... if you told WinRAR to

Virtual folder counts

2005-04-29 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello tbbeta, Since moving to 3.0.9.20 virtual folder counts aren't updating correctly, i.e. message status remains unread unless I use Ctrl-R (or right-click Refresh.) -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 "Would you like me to give you a formula for success? It's quite simple really. Double

Re: 3.5 ?

2005-04-28 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Cees, On 28 April 2005, 20:54 you wrote: > v3.5 coming up soon? > I'm so very sceptical with IMAP being as it is now. I don't think it's there yet... but IMAP is really good for me. Better than any other product I've tried (which is probably every IMAP-capable client out there.) Of co

Re: Save viewmode to... AV

2005-04-25 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello, On 23 April 2005, 11:53 you wrote: > When I attempt to save a viewmode using the content menu I get the > following AV: > AV at address 00AA3D2A. Read of address 0030. For clarity, that is "Save Viewmode to..." and "New Viewmode..." It's still present in 1.0.9.19. Moreover, menu it

Re[2]: IMAP: Wrong Body Loaded, and "Browse Deleted Messages"

2005-04-24 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Allie, On 24 April 2005, 21:54 you wrote: > That's if you know which tbb and tbi files to delete. They don't follow > the naming of the IMAP mailboxes. Additionally, doesn't clearing the > cache basically do that? Wouldn't it be nice if TB! followed the same naming convention used with PO

Save viewmode to... AV

2005-04-23 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello tbbeta, When I attempt to save a viewmode using the content menu I get the following AV: AV at address 00AA3D2A. Read of address 0030. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 "People create change... people constrain change." EDDIE OBENG'S THIRD LAW OF CHANGE _

Re[2]: still can't run TB on my desktop

2005-04-19 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Dwight, On 19 April 2005, 20:50 you wrote: >> Do you have the same problem with 3.0.1.33? If so, I think you would >> do better seeking help on TBUDL as there are so many issues with the >> current beta you may not get a useful reply here. > The lack of useful replies there drove me to pr

Re: still can't run TB on my desktop

2005-04-19 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Dwight, On 19 April 2005, 16:49 you wrote: > I have been unable to get TB! to run on my desktop at home for some > months now. I have posted about this a few times and gotten no > answers. > Now, I keep hoping something will change in one of the betas and it > will work, but no luck. No,

Re[2]: Drag and drop not working correctly

2005-04-17 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Greg, On 17 April 2005, 16:42 you wrote: >>> I can no longer drag and drop a message from the message list to the >>> account tree if the destination folder isn't visible, i.e. off the >>> bottom of the screen. >> Can't confirm. > I messed up on install of v3.0.9.16 which is why you prob

Drag and drop not working correctly

2005-04-16 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello tbbeta, I can no longer drag and drop a message from the message list to the account tree if the destination folder isn't visible, i.e. off the bottom of the screen. Beforehand the account tree would scroll as you moved the message toward the bottom of the screen. Things work correctly if

Re[2]: thebat.exe has generated errors....

2005-04-16 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Martin, On 16 April 2005, 20:45 you wrote: >> Getting "thebat.exe has generated arrors and will be closed by Windows. >> A log file is being created". Beta 16 won't load at all on my system. >> back to 15 for now. > Ditto. Deleted batskin.xml and batlogo.xml before reinstalling 3.0.9.16.

Re: thebat.exe has generated errors....

2005-04-16 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Chris, On 16 April 2005, 20:44 you wrote: > Getting "thebat.exe has generated arrors and will be closed by Windows. > A log file is being created". Beta 16 won't load at all on my system. > back to 15 for now. Ditto. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 "What is a man profited, if he

Re[2]: Some more interface and IMAP observations

2005-04-13 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Henk, On 13 April 2005, 12:03 you wrote: MWot> 2. When minimised to the System Tray TB! requires two-clicks to come MWot> to the foreground. Can't confirm that, one click here. MB>>> Confirmed here. Two clicks. C>> nope, not confirmed here. C>> This behaviour I noticed

Re[4]: 0 Byte IMAP messages still an issue

2005-04-12 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Matt, On 12 April 2005, 22:20 you wrote: I am still getting the random empty message, 0 byte size, with headers only on my IMAP accounts. I have confirmed that I can see the same messages just fine with alternate IMAP clients. >> I haven't seen this since I started uses the

Some more interface and IMAP observations

2005-04-12 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello tbbeta, I only started using the latest beta in earnest a week or so ago and have made the following observations (some trivial): 1. Line spacing in the message list in incorrect (compressed) when starting TB!. Opening and closing Preferences puts thing right. 2. When minimised to the Sys

Re[2]: 0 Byte IMAP messages still an issue

2005-04-12 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Neal, On 12 April 2005, 20:21 you wrote: >> I am still getting the random empty message, 0 byte size, with headers >> only on my IMAP accounts. I have confirmed that I can see the same >> messages just fine with alternate IMAP clients. >> Still a HUGE issue. Anyone else seeing this? I ha

Re[2]: Indication of status Online/Offline for IMAP account in accounts pane

2005-04-12 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Stuart, On 12 April 2005, 13:14 you wrote: >> How about making some change to the icon next to account name in the >> status bar - bottom left corner? > Alternatively, allow the user to define a colour to associate with the > various statuses. That way those not interested in this functio

Re[2]: Indication of status Online/Offline for IMAP account in accounts pane

2005-04-12 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Alto, On 12 April 2005, 10:42 you wrote: > If this feature is integrated, please use another way of representing > the status or at least make it optional. How about making some change to the icon next to account name in the status bar - bottom left corner? -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ

Re[4]: Custom headers and preview pane

2005-04-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Martin, On 10 April 2005, 17:39 you wrote: > Even stranger behaviour... see attached image. Header is displayed > twice! Forget that... I have two identical headers in the message. It looks like I need to use 'formail -a "X-Folder: $MATCH' instead of 'formail -A "X-Folder: $MATCH"' in my

Re[3]: Custom headers and preview pane

2005-04-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Martin, >> Most likely you have defined to "Display this field on the scrollable >> part of the header pane". Uncheck that option and you should see it without >> the necessity to scroll. > That was it... of sorts. Although I had changed this setting a restart > was required to get the des

Re[2]: Custom headers and preview pane

2005-04-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello Peter, On 10 April 2005, 17:05 you wrote: MWot>> However, the new header isn't available without a restart. Can anyone MWot>> confirm? > Confirmed. MWot>> Also, I note that the header area is of fixed size, i.e. only three MWot>> headers are viable at any one time. Is this intentional?

Custom headers and preview pane

2005-04-10 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello tbbeta, If you want to display a custom header in the the preview pane (e.g. X-Spam-Status) you first create an entry under Preferences; Messages; Message Headers. However, the new header isn't available without a restart. Can anyone confirm? Also, I note that the header area is of fixed s

Re[2]: Dodgy Split modes

2005-03-31 Thread Martin Webster on TBBETA
Hello Roger, Thursday, March 31, 2005, 6:57:33 PM, you wrote: SH>> Of course, my understanding of what's meant by horizontal/vertical SH>> split could be at odds with everyone else's. > I thik it is just that Ritlabs, as opposed to other people such as you > and I, interpret split in a diffe

Re: B8: Font colour changes for IMAP folders

2004-09-02 Thread Martin Webster on TBBETA
Hello Gary, On 01 September 2004, 18:58 -0500 (02/09/200400:58 local time) Gary [G] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... G> I only mentioned it as I am now tracking problematic IMAP servers using TB! G> and this would help me. If you recall, someone previously had problems with G> Courier IMAP,

Re: Version 3.0 storm

2004-08-31 Thread Martin Webster on TBBETA
Hello MaXxX, On 31 August 2004, 21:38 +0200 (20:38 local time) MaXxX [M] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M> I myself am just inches away from starting a counter-project, some M> "freeBat" or something, under GPL, just to poke RITlabs' eyes out. ...and you could call it Mozilla Thunderbird or T