Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged
Hello Allie, Saturday, June 4, 2005, 12:44:28 AM, you wrote: I'm testing the service now and it's darned good. What it supports in addition to what you mentioned is server side threading. It's difficult to summarise FM's services in just two lines :) I've used them for two years now, gradually consolidating my mail to my account and dropping other ISP and free accounts in the process. They've been pretty reliable as other posters here who use their service can testify. They've had the odd outage of a few minutes occasionally but their backup arrangements seem robust and I've never lost a single mail. Helpful forum, too. -- Regards, Clive Taylor TheBat!:3.5.25 Windows XP: Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
Hello Allie, Saturday, June 4, 2005, 2:51:45 AM, you wrote: Actually, the very same problem affects the message list This has been reported already, I think. -- Regards, Clive Taylor TheBat!:3.5.25 Windows XP: Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged
On Friday, June 3, 2005 @ 4:44:28 PM [-0700], Allie Martin wrote: I host my main domain with FM and have just set up this address for my mailing lists - changing from MailSnare. It's a good service with good support and a fast web interface, too. Never any threading problems with TB either! I'm testing the service now and it's darned good. What it supports in addition to what you mentioned is server side threading. This is fantastic since it allows to view the messages threaded, with minimal transfer of list data. Mulberry takes advantage of this as well so it makes me able to thread messages both home and at work. A most tempting solution for my mail in general. Have any of you noticed an improvement with TB and IMAP with FastMail? -- Matt Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged
--On 4 June 2005 00:10 -0700 Matt Thoene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of you noticed an improvement with TB and IMAP with FastMail? I've been collecting mail from two different IMAP servers for the past year, including FastMail, using TB and Mulberry and the results have been consistent, ie Mulberry fast - TB slow whichever server is being accessed at the time. -- Clive Taylor Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
How to move AVG quarantine folder placement to another account?
I can't seem to find a setting to move my AVG anti virus quarantine folder setting to another account I have created. I want to delete the original account. Thanks. -- Best regards, Chris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.5.25 Windows 2000 5 0 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25: Finally I got an AV when exiting TB
Hello Mike, A commercial grade application should not be giving AVs at all. I'm sure anyone developing a commercial application tries to do that. I think at this point, something like TalkBack in Firefox, or EurekaLog would be valid options for all betas. It would certainly streamline the process of narrowing down these bugs. I'm not familiar with any of them, but I googled a bit and found this: http://www.eurekalog.com/openfile.php?file=changelog.txttitle=Change%20Log which proves that no software is bug free and even debuggers have bugs :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
Hello Allie, I note two things: - the folder tree doesn't readjust to fill the space provided - the scroll-bar disappears. I have to use the mouse or arrow keys to scroll the upper folders back into view. Confirmed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [The Bat! 3.5.0.17] Problems with special characters (äöüß) in recipient name
Hello Volker, Yep, it's exactly the same problem. I think I forgot to mention here on the list that I did open a BT report. Please see https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4723 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged
Hello Allie. --On 03 June 2005 18:44 -0500 you wrote about Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged: A most tempting solution for my mail in general. And labels :) -- Tony. M pgp1UEM0IxVU4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - Expunge vs Compress vs Purge vs Delete?
Hello Matt. --On 03 June 2005 18:29 -0700 you wrote about IMAP - Expunge vs Compress vs Purge vs Delete?: Again, I want to get all of what's on the server to at be available on my main workstation, just don't need it anymore on the server. Just do what I had to do to cure my threading problem (Which don't exist anymore). Create a local folder. I used a filter to filter incoming mail into it but you can drag messages from an IMAP box into it and then expunge them from the server. -- Tony. M pgp5tputonoUI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Date/time stamp for AB entries
Hello all, I have just logged this little wish: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4735 Any supporters? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged
Hello Clive. --On 04 June 2005 07:13 +0100 you wrote about Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged: They've been pretty reliable as other posters here who use their service can testify. Using 11 IMAP server it used to take me over 30 minutes at first boot to get to read my first message. Each message would take in excess of 45 seconds to 2 minutes to display and 90% of the time I used to spend looking at Connecting to server, please wait popups. Maybe it was these delays that were causing TB! delete problems? I thought it was odd having to wait so long, especially with a 2Mb Broad Band connection and was often very close to giving up IMAP in favour of POP. Since changing to FM it's every bit as fast as POP or reading mail from local folders. Whole message lists appear in fractions of a second and full bodies display twice as quick as that, I'm well impressed... And it fully supports user defined labels. All that speed and function for the same cost per year as one 50g packet of tobacco or 3 and a half pints of beer for MAU's benefit :) I've not yet tried it with TB to see what effect it'll have on expungement, neither have I delved into sieving or server side filters yet. Does TB support sieving? My sincerest thanks to Manuel Breitfeld for talking me into trying it :) -- Tony. M pgpx2Dv8z5et8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Deficiencies in v3.5
Hi there, 2.) Browse Folder window, any version: If some kind of view threads by is selected, the threads are displayed with the root message and a little + to the left to expand the thread. However, a double click on this line doesn't expand the thread as is expected, but opens this message in a new window. M I don't think this is a bug. As far as I can recall that has always M been that way, I have just verified it with the oldest version I M have (3.0.2.10) and it is the same. That's why I wrote any version. ;-) It's also why I spoke of deficiencies instead of bugs. A bug doesn't always come in the form of an AV, it may simply be an oversight without catastrophic consequences which needs a workaround to handle. Yes, I understand that and why this behaviour in fact may be beneficial to some, not everyone uses the message preview window. But most will, and the misleading double click response is definitly non-standard behaviour - in Windows, when you see a collapsed tree (with the + on the left hand side) you expect it to open on a double click like it does in explorer or even other TheBat windows (e.g. Accounts/Folder List). Look at it this way: Of 100 people doing a double click on the first subject line, how many will expect to have the message pop up in a new window instead of the thread unfolding? How many of them will accidently have executed an action that they didn't intend to execute? I bet you that it well be well over half, probably at least close to three fourth. A program that seeks ease of use adheres to UI standards. If it wants to reinvent the wheel way better than it had been before, this should be optional. Forcing the user to change their trained behaviour instead of catering to his expectations will not endear the program to the user. 3.) Editor (MicroEd), any version: The editor is unable to honour CRs without an empty line following. Two lines that follow right after oneanother are drawn together by auto-format even if the first one is terminated by a CR. M This is a feature WAD, not a bug. A feature that is clear that you M don't like, but a feature. I respectfully disagree. A feature is being able to do something, not being prevented to do something. If the way it currently works is intended behaviour, it definitly is non-standard and should be selectable. a.) The icons are unnecessarily large. M You can change that with batskin.xml file and I guess it will be M possible (soon?) via the Customise window. Great. Come to think of it, there shouldn't be a reason not to include the options we discussed above there too, should it? The programmers had such a hard time creating this monster of Customizer, now that it exists it could very well be put to some good use. b.) The icons are also less clear as the ones in v3.01. M You can use alternative ones defining them in batskin.xml file. Can the icons from v3.01 be extracted somehow? -- MfG, Altomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpE5DGtUrTJc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged
Hello Matt. --On 04 June 2005 00:10 -0700 you wrote about Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged: Have any of you noticed an improvement with TB and IMAP with FastMail? To be honest I'm nervous of trying it. FM has been such a performance revaluation for me, I'm not sure I could take the disappointment if TB doesn't fully exploit the advantages a decent mature IMAP server like FM has given me over my old, slow, poorly configured server I was using. -- Tony. M pgpyRntzinCdD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged
Since changing to FM it's every bit as fast as POP or reading mail from local folders. Whole message lists appear in fractions of a second and full bodies display twice as quick as that All true All that speed and function for the same cost per year as one 50g packet of tobacco or 3 and a half pints of beer for MAU's benefit :) And even with an enhanced account the cost is still equivalent to one Staryuk's coffee per month Does TB support sieving? Not as far as I know but if you're defining actions in FastMail then FastMail will control them. -- Clive Taylor Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged
Hi Tony, On 4/6/2005 12:17 PM +0100, you wrote: To be honest I'm nervous of trying it. FM has been such a performance revaluation for me, I'm not sure I could take the disappointment if TB doesn't fully exploit the advantages a decent mature IMAP server like FM has given me over my old, slow, poorly configured server I was using. I tried it and it doesn't work badly at all. The speed is good, but there are still those inexplicable pauses in operations. I select a message and it just takes a long time to appear. With the fast mail server where bandwidth isn't as great as when working with the server on my own system, the pauses are that much longer. Long enough for me to wonder if the message will ever display and I find myself going to the reload button. There are still hiccups with deleting messages. I have to do a manual purge and compress at times. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- The future isn't what it used to be. Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged
To be honest I'm nervous of trying it Try it, Tony. While TB is still slower than other mailers (cough!) it's usable for me - but still frustrating. I'm on a 2Mb connection as you are but that's no help when TB gets the hump. -- Clive Taylor Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged
Hello Clive. --On 04 June 2005 12:35 +0100 you wrote about Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged: Not as far as I know but if you're defining actions in FastMail then FastMail will control them. Yes, that's what I think I'll read up on next. I'm still waiting for yahoo to change my address for TBOT and then I'll totally remove my 11 IMAP account. I changed the address early last night but the change hasn't taken effect yet, maybe in a week or so, it is Yahoo after all :) -- Tony. M pgpjVmO6UgmPe.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Deficiencies in v3.5
Hello Alto, b.) The icons are also less clear as the ones in v3.01. M You can use alternative ones defining them in batskin.xml file. Can the icons from v3.01 be extracted somehow? I don't think they can be extracted, at least I don't know how. But I am quite sure they exist (or very similar ones) in the form of a glyphs.bmp file in some of the many TB web sites. However, I do know they are not directly usable, they have to be converted from BMP to PNG with alpha transparency and maybe they (the whole set) have to be resized. Maybe as a test you want to try my yellowish_icons. As I wasn't myself satisfied with the different shades of blue which I couldn't clearly identify, so I slightly modified the new default icons so that at least folders and unread flag were yellowish. A few other changes affect the Outbox and disabled filters in Sorting Office. If you want to try them, you can download from: http://www.rancho-k.com/yellowish_icons.zip If you don't like them, all you have to do is delete the batskin.xml file and the PNG files if you wish. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged
Hello Allie. --On 04 June 2005 06:37 -0500 you wrote about Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged: There are still hiccups with deleting messages. I have to do a manual purge and compress at times. Oh dear, I think I'll wait a little longer then. Thanks for sparing me the heartache. -- Tony. M pgphkkXxuMRyv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Fwd: VF: Counting mails with attachments
Hello MAU! You wrote: [...] I think I can confirm what you say. The number shown in VFs decreases when I delete an attachment but it comes back to the previous(original) numbers if I manually refresh the VF. Have you opened a BT report? Not yet, but I will do this weekend. -- Best regards, Michael (The Bat! 3.5.25 (Pro), Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2, Windows XP Service Pack 2, P4/2.8GHz/512MB) Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged
Hello Clive. --On 04 June 2005 12:38 +0100 you wrote about Re: IMAP: Messages not expunged: I'm on a 2Mb connection as you are but that's no help when TB gets the hump. Hell hath no fury like a women or The Bat! scorned :) At least with a women you can just walk out and go up the Pub :) -- Tony. M pgp3Sr7QsDqsg.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : CT Hello Allie, CT Saturday, June 4, 2005, 2:51:45 AM, you wrote: Actually, the very same problem affects the message list CT This has been reported already, I think. Several times, I believe... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Had a life once. Now I have a computer. Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.25: Finally I got an AV when exiting TB
On Saturday, June 4, 2005, 5:52:35 AM, MAU wrote: I think at this point, something like TalkBack in Firefox, or EurekaLog would be valid options for all betas. It would certainly streamline the process of narrowing down these bugs. M I'm not familiar with any of them, but I googled a bit and found M this: M http://www.eurekalog.com/openfile.php?file=changelog.txttitle=Change%20Log M which proves that no software is bug free and even debuggers have M bugs :) I can't argue with that! Basically, something like Talkback or EurekaLog would send a report back to RITLabs after a crash containing all the vital information needed to track down the code that's causing the AV. From EurekaLog.com: EurekaLog is the new add-in tool that gives to your Delphi/C++Builder application (GUI, Console, Web, ...) the power to catch every exception, generating a detailed log of call stack (with unit, class, method and line #), showing and sending it back to you via email or Web message (HTTP-S/FTP). *This is not a paid endorsement. :) I do think however, that a tool such as this would be helpful. Instead of sending a report to MS we'd be sending it to RIT. Which brings to mind another bug: Under Help-Feedback-Bug Report (English) the e-mail address is no longer active. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP: Messages not expunged
Saturday, June 4, 2005, 2:10:11 AM, (Internet Time - @340) you wrote: Hello Matt, MT Have any of you noticed an improvement with TB and IMAP with FastMail? I have recently, last night, reset up IMAP Account and am trying it out now. As far as I can tell it is working pretty good. Much better than when I used it last year. But that isn't saying much for me, that is. I mainly wanted to get the threading working properly with TBBeta so I could follow the messages better and so far it is working pretty good, as far as I can tell. Will let you know with more experimenting. -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.5.25 On Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Deficiencies in v3.5
Hello Alto, A reminder of what Alto Speckhardt typed on: June 4, 2005 at 13:08:54 GMT +0200 3.) Editor (MicroEd), any version: The editor is unable to honour CRs without an empty line following. Two lines that follow right after oneanother are drawn together by auto-format even if the first one is terminated by a CR. M This is a feature WAD, not a bug. A feature that is clear that you M don't like, but a feature. AS I respectfully disagree. A feature is being able to do something, not AS being prevented to do something. If the way it currently works is AS intended behaviour, it definitly is non-standard and should be AS selectable. Try turning off auto-format. You can always use Alt+L to reformat a paragraph if needed. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Deficiencies in v3.5
Hi MAU and list, On Saturday, June 4, 2005 at 13:42:15 GMT +0200 (which was 13:42 where I live) MAU wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Deficiencies in v3.5: Maybe as a test you want to try my yellowish_icons. And they are _GREAT_, really. Thinking of them: Did I say Thank you? I fear I forgot that :dread: , (only because of staring at the screen, being glad to have the yellow icon again, and the park-sign for a non-empty outbox, and ... IOU a :batbeer: (maybe two?) -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.5.25, , and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Date/time stamp for AB entries
Hi MAU and list, On Saturday, June 4, 2005 at 12:39:28 GMT +0200 (which was 12:39 where I live) MAU wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Date/time stamp for AB entries: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4735 Any supporters? You bet :-) -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.5.25, , and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Deficiencies in v3.5
Guten Morgen, 3.) Editor (MicroEd), any version: The editor is unable to honour CRs without an empty line following. Two lines that follow right after oneanother are drawn together by auto-format even if the first one is terminated by a CR. SC Try turning off auto-format. You can always use Alt+L to reformat SC a paragraph if needed. Not possible. I need two formated paragraphs, both terminated by CR, without an empty line between the two. TheBat is unable to do this. Besides, it is _very_ uncomfortable to constantly have to switch AutoFormat on and off, multiple times within one message. -- MfG, Altomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp3hjaRm8BYW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: How to move AVG quarantine folder placement to another account?
CW I can't seem to find a setting to move my AVG anti virus CW quarantine folder setting to another account I have created. I CW want to delete the original account. Thanks. What do you mean EXACTLY that you cannot move the settings??? BTW, it is a TBUDL issue, not TBBETA. -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Deficiencies in v3.5
b.) The icons are also less clear as the ones in v3.01. M You can use alternative ones defining them in batskin.xml file. Can the icons from v3.01 be extracted somehow? M I don't think they can be extracted, at least I don't know how. But I By hand MAU, by hand : What about using v2 ikons in v3.5? I have some users who does not like v3.5 icons, so I decided to convert v2 icons to v3.5. I am at the 10% of the work now, I just quickly converted the major icons on the main screen for them. Oh yes, and the account icon. It is easy, if one of you have more time than me: open the old glyph.bmp, open the new .png, and copy paste from bmp to png. I can send the png that I have now. But if none of you have time and desire to do it, I will finish it. Yes, icons are different in size, but you can center the old, smaller icons on the new, larger icons. So did I. -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Deficiencies in v3.5
Hello Alto, A reminder of what Alto Speckhardt typed on: June 4, 2005 at 18:05:38 GMT +0200 SC Try turning off auto-format. You can always use Alt+L to reformat SC a paragraph if needed. AS Not possible. I need two formated paragraphs, both terminated by CR, AS without an empty line between the two. AS TheBat is unable to do this. AS Besides, it is _very_ uncomfortable to constantly have to switch AS AutoFormat on and off, multiple times within one message. You must be pasting text into the document. If you are typing it in the paragraph should format correctly on its own even with auto-format turned off. Then if you push Enter you will start a new line and will have two paragraphs next to each other on different lines. If you are pasting this info then you could paste the first paragraph, Alt+L to format it, push enter twice, paste the second paragraph, Alt+L again, and then delete the space between the two paragraphs. Not perfect but it would work. -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello Ming, On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:54:01 +0800 GMT (03/06/2005, 07:54 +0700 GMT), Ming Chang wrote: MC In fact, current QT manager need some tweak. It should introduce a common MC category, shared QT - any QT specified shared in each account should also be MC placed in this category. It should support search function, so we can find MC designated QTs. Thus, it would be also a nice universal template manager I'd like that. Very much like common filters are in one place, common QTs could be in one place. Like you, I often need to jump around and look in which account that particular QT which I want to amend was originally created. -- Cheers, Thomas. They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary saftey deserve neither liberty not saftey. (Benjamin Franklin, 1759) Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.25 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello MAU, On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:09:30 +0200 GMT (03/06/2005, 16:09 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: In fact, current QT manager need some tweak. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 M Why don't you upgrade to 3.5? There are new things in QTs and QT M manager. I don't see that. Please elaborate. -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: If you decide to start dancing in the street, everyone you bump into will know all the steps. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.25 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello Volker, On Tue, 31 May 2005 11:45:31 +0200 GMT (31/05/2005, 16:45 +0700 GMT), Volker Ahrendt wrote: VA Müller, Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] VA VAAfter sending the message it looks like this: VA VAMüller, Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] VA Click on the small addressbook button in the To: line. VAThere are *two* entries: Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] VA Müller Confirmed, and the message doesn't get sent. Reason: The second line is interpreted as recipient Müller Müller (no quotes) which is not a valid address. Solution: TB should keep the single/double quotes. -- Cheers, Thomas. The difference between a king and a president is that a king is the son of his father but a president is not. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.25 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
Hello Manuel, On Mon, 30 May 2005 09:41:48 +0200 GMT (30/05/2005, 14:41 +0700 GMT), Manuel Breitfeld wrote: MB - Improve PTV to get it with UTF8 working. It's confusing if with MB apparently no reason the RTV jumps up. Seconded. MB - Purge Compress Address book. It grows and grows bigger if one changes MB photos. Seconded. -- Cheers, Thomas. Nennen sie ein schwarz-gelb gestreiftes Insekt: Giraffe Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.25 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Deficiencies in v3.5
Stuart Cuddy wrotes on 05/06/2005 at 04:52:40 +1100 subject Deficiencies in v3.5 : AS Not possible. I need two formated paragraphs, both terminated by CR, AS without an empty line between the two. AS TheBat is unable to do this. AS Besides, it is _very_ uncomfortable to constantly have to switch AS AutoFormat on and off, multiple times within one message. You must be pasting text into the document. If you are typing it in the paragraph should format correctly on its own even with auto-format turned off. Then if you push Enter you will start a new line and will have two paragraphs next to each other on different lines. If you are pasting this info then you could paste the first paragraph, Alt+L to format it, push enter twice, paste the second paragraph, Alt+L again, and then delete the space between the two paragraphs. Not perfect but it would work. You can also select just the lines to be reformatted and push Alt+L. So, even if there are other lines without a empty paragraph between them, only the selected lines will be formatted. It is enough to select just one character in a line. -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your sig delimiter is broken -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber-IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 215599852 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YIM moimeme666fr - AIM moimeme666fr TheBat! 3.5.25 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 on Windows 2000 ___ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Deficiencies in v3.5
Hello Hendrik, A reminder of what Hendrik Oesterlin typed on: June 4, 2005 at 07:52:47 GMT +1100 -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HO Your sig delimiter is broken Actually, I broke it doing an experiment with Auto-format. Another good reason not to use it. :) -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The most un-obvious things: View-Display View Modes
The Customize function is severely lacking. I believe during the beta period some people protested the lack of most shortcut keys for View-Display functions, which seem now to only be available via mouse. However, there's another shortcoming: If a view mode has a filter to only show unread messages, View-Display-All will not override it. Apparently the only way to see all messages in a folder with such a view mode filter is to change the view mode. Then, of course, when you've finished whatever you needed to do, you have to change it back. A lot of wasted effort. It seems to me that the best approach would be to let View-Display _temporarily_ override the View Mode filter setting (and folder tab display settings, should those be implemented in a future version), and perhaps be cancelable with the Esc key the way alt-click sorting on From/Subject/Etc. entries currently is. Anyway, the interaction of View Display, View Mode filters, and folder tabs needs to be rethought. -- Best, M-K Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The most un-obvious things: Insert Quick Template
Apparently we're also missing in Customize (see earlier message about View-Display and View Modes) the Utilities-Insert-Insert Quick Template dropdown list function, so that it can't be assigned a shortcut or put on a toolbar button. (Insert Quick Template is available, but useless: It pops up a message informing you that the handle isn't found.) The question is (and someone may have recently addressed this), why is such a potentially useful function as a QT picklist buried so far down in the main menu? Further, why couldn't the Ctrl + Shft + Q (create/edit/delete quick template) function also include an Insert button? This picklist menu, which features a scroll bar, is far superior to the one available under Utilities, and making one list do the work of two (at least in this instance) is a more eloquent solution. The ability to quickly insert bits and pieces of oft-used text is a very powerful tool. Please make it easier to get to. -- Best, M-K Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The most un-obvious things: Insert Quick Template
Hello Munango-Keewati! On Saturday, June 04, 2005, 4:18 PM, you wrote: The ability to quickly insert bits and pieces of oft-used text is a very powerful tool. Please make it easier to get to. I agree 100 per cent. This is so important that it would probably be worthwhile to write a note in the Bug Tracker about it. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [The Bat! 3.5.0.17] Problems with special characters (äöüß) in recipient name
[Reply to: Thomas Fernandez · 2005-06-04 · 03:26 h (CET)] Hello, Thomas! However, due to the comma in the name and the missing quote marks (see RFC2822), the part before the comma was interpreted as an address and that was invalid. So the message didn't get sent. So, the problem is not the umlauts but the comma. And the special characters (umlauts) cause the problem with the comma and the missing double quotes. If you reply to an address in the format lastname, firstname [EMAIL PROTECTED] *without* special characters, everything is OK. See also ... ...mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and ... https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4723 -- Cheers! VA - using The Bat! 3.5.25 (Pro) on Windows XP Service Pack 2. If you are in deep water, you should not hang the head. Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things
[Reply to: Thomas Fernandez · 2005-06-04 · 20:24 h (CET)] Hello, Thomas! VAThere are *two* entries: Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] VA Müller Confirmed, and the message doesn't get sent. Reason: The second line is interpreted as recipient Müller Müller (no quotes) which is not a valid address. Solution: TB should keep the single/double quotes. = https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4723 -- Cheers! VA - using The Bat! 3.5.25 (Pro) on Windows XP Service Pack 2. If you are in deep water, you should not hang the head. Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Cut mark (was: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree)
Hallo Michael, On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:54:45 -0500GMT (4-6-2005, 3:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.25 System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm -=-=- MA Confirmed, got the same indications that you mentioned above. MA MA Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Michael. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator ... and ... Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. -- Groetjes, Roelof Ga Naar WINDOWS 95. Ga Niet Langs DOS. Ontvang Geen f 2,- The Bat! 3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgpjs7nedyzGk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: How to move AVG quarantine folder placement to another account?
Hallo Chris, On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:02:17 +0100GMT (4-6-2005, 11:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CW I can't seem to find a setting to move my AVG anti virus quarantine CW folder setting to another account I have created. I want to delete the CW original account. Thanks. No need to move it. Just delete it in your old account. When AVG needs one in your new account it'll create it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Computers run on smoke. They stop as it leaks out. The Bat! 3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgpiC9uR48nch.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The original Glyph from v2 adapted for v3.5
Hello All, I adapted the original Glyph of the v2 for the version v3.5. I modified it a little bit and create the missing symbols. Preview: http://bat-mail.de.vu/original.html Download (37 KB): http://thebat.orgavision.de/zip/glyphs_original_v2_for_v35.zip -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Sarcasm
Tony, On 01-06-2005 23:26, you [TB] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: You cannot complain about it - not before IMAP is as smooth as silk! :-) TB IMAP *is* running as smooth as silk, at least it is when I use TB Mulberry. Naturally I was talking about TB! IMAP. TB The Bat is *completely* unusable for me. I can't even revert to an TB earlier non beta version like most of you can because they're just TB as bad if not worse. OK, IMAP is definitely not that bad for me. Remote outbox does not work but apart from that for me TB! IMAP is usable (albeit not running well). I think you misunderstood me. I _also_ want focus to be put on IMAP before anything else. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.5.21 Pro /thebat version env. ~12 POP3, 4 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree)
Saturday, June 4, 2005, 7:07:33 PM, (Internet Time - @046) you wrote: Hello Roelof, RO ' Sorry about that. Hopefully it is fixed now. Don't know why it would change after coping and pasting the reply template from my old address. But again sorry about that... -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.5.25 On Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
