Re: The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) is now available

2005-08-27 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val, The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Running smooth and easily, like all the previous 3.60.xx. It is a pity that I still have to revert to good old 3.02.10 once or twice a day due to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4933

3.60.05: QT selected options not displayed

2005-08-27 Thread MAU
Hello all, I don't know in which version this started but, when editing a QT (existing or new) the template options tick boxes are not displayed. See QT_Options_1.png. However, if you hover mouse pointer over each of the options, the corresponding tick box is then displayed and it then disappears

Re: 3.60.05: QT selected options not displayed

2005-08-27 Thread MAU
Hello MAU, I don't know in which version this started but, when editing a QT (existing or new) the template options tick boxes are not displayed. See QT_Options_1.png. However, if you hover mouse pointer over each of the options, the corresponding tick box is then displayed and it then

Re: 3.60.05: QT selected options not displayed

2005-08-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zaterdag 27 augustus 2005 om 10:38 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.60.05: QT selected options not displayed' : Hoi MAU, M I don't know in which version this started but, when editing a QT M (existing or new) the template options tick boxes are not displayed. they are (here), you

Re: 3.60.05: QT selected options not displayed

2005-08-27 Thread MAU
Hello Cees, M I don't know in which version this started but, when editing a QT M (existing or new) the template options tick boxes are not displayed. they are (here), you just don't see them. Depends on the background colour. Tickboxes have white background so if your thebat-theme

Re[2]: 3.60.05: QT selected options not displayed

2005-08-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zaterdag 27 augustus 2005 om 11:13 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.60.05: QT selected options not displayed' : Hoi MAU, M I don't know in which version this started but, when editing a QT M (existing or new) the template options tick boxes are not displayed. they are (here), you

Re: Mass mailing, bug

2005-08-27 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/27/2005 6:28 AM Hi Vili, On 8/26/2005 Vili wrote: V The mails will be in the Outbox of Account2, but sender is the email V of Account1. V Please confirm and I will write a BT. As a database application programmer this action seems logical. When you begin a new message the From and Reply-To

Re: 3.60.05: QT selected options not displayed

2005-08-27 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/27/2005 6:44 AM Hi MAU, On 8/27/2005 MAU wrote: M I don't know in which version this started but, when editing a QT M (existing or new) the template options tick boxes are not displayed. See M QT_Options_1.png. However, if you hover mouse pointer over each of the M options, the corresponding

Re[2]: 3.60.05: QT selected options not displayed

2005-08-27 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/27/2005 6:46 AM Hi Cees, On 8/27/2005 Cees wrote: C they are (here), you just don't see them. C Depends on the background colour. Tickboxes have white background so if your C thebat-theme has a white background, you don't see them. C At the moment the theme I use is called Athen.

TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello everyone, I don't know if this has already been reported, here's a very nasty bug that I accidentally stumbled across while finding out why certain email messages wouldn't be delivered by the Exchange server of one of our customers. It is common in the business world to send messages with

Re[2]: Mass mailing, bug

2005-08-27 Thread Vili
Hello Paul, V The mails will be in the Outbox of Account2, but sender is the email V of Account1. V Please confirm and I will write a BT. As a database application programmer this action seems logical. When you begin a new message the From and Reply-To are the first things to be established.

Re: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/27/2005 8:29 AM Hi Alexander, On 8/27/2005 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK TB omits the double quotes, and IMHO this is *very* wrong. The recipients ASK mail program decodes the realname part of the from address, finds a comma, ASK and splits the FROM field into two addresses, ending up with a

Re: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zaterdag 27 augustus 2005 om 14:20 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines' : Hoi Alexander, ASK Huber, Heini [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASK HOWEVER - if this from-realname contains an 8bit character (like the german ASK umlauts), the realname must be

Re: Mass mailing, bug

2005-08-27 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Saturday, August 27, 2005, at 04:49:54 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, August 27, 2005 04:49 my local time) Vili wrote: The mails will be in the Outbox of Account2, but sender is the email of Account1. Please confirm and I will write a BT. I have empty From field and no Reply-To field in mass

Bayesit.tbp (was: The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) is now available)

2005-08-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Cees, On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:38:55 +0200 GMT (27/08/2005, 01:38 +0700 GMT), Cees wrote: C http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36005.rar There is a file bayesit.tbp in this archive. Since I don't use Bayesit, I don't need it, do I? Or, into what directory should I put it? --

Re: Bayesit.tbp (was: The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) is now available)

2005-08-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zaterdag 27 augustus 2005 om 15:26 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Bayesit.tbp (was: The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) is now available)' : Hoi Thomas, C http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36005.rar TF There is a file bayesit.tbp in this archive. Since I don't use TF

Re: The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) is now available

2005-08-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Miguel, On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 10:04:07 +0200GMT (27-8-2005, 10:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M Running smooth and easily, like all the previous 3.60.xx. It is a pity M that I still have to revert to good old 3.02.10 once or twice a day due M to

Re: Mass mailing, bug

2005-08-27 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Saturday, August 27, 2005, at 09:53:49 [UTC-0500] (Saturday, August 27, 2005 16:53 my local time) Greg Strong wrote: I have empty From field and no Reply-To field in mass messages generated in the way you described. Second account which I tried to use has all fields defined, so for sure

Re: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Vili
Hello Alexander, is encoding by TB into this: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCller=2C_Max?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] See whats missing? The doublequote characters. This would be correct: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22M=FCller=2C_Max=22?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB omits the double quotes, and IMHO this is *very* wrong. The

Re: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Paul Van Noord everyone else, on 27-Aug-2005 at 14:30 you (Paul Van Noord) wrote: ASK Confirmations anyone? If so, I'll file a bugreport. I'm with you on this. I'm not so sure if it really is a TB bug, or rather more a question of implementation. Fact is - when the gateway thats in

Re[2]: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Vili
Hello Alexander, Opening sequence: =? Used Charset: iso-8859-1 Used encoding scheme: ?Q? The lastname: M=FCller The comma:=2C whitespace: _ the firstname:Max Closing sequence: ?= So, IMHO there are no

Headers not displayed

2005-08-27 Thread Martin Schoch
Hi list Don't know if already reported - the headers are not displayed in the preview and the View Folder window (under Windows 98). See picture: http://home.tiscali.ch/mynewsgroup/headers.jpg Can't tell you with which beta this bug started. -- Best regards, Martin TheBat! 3.60.05 Forerunner

Re: Headers not displayed

2005-08-27 Thread Vili
Hello Martin, Don't know if already reported - the headers are not displayed in the preview and the View Folder window (under Windows 98). See picture: http://home.tiscali.ch/mynewsgroup/headers.jpg Can't tell you with which beta this bug started. Just to be sure: right click on the empty

Re: Bayesit.tbp (was: The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) is now available)

2005-08-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Cees, On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:38:40 +0200 GMT (27/08/2005, 20:38 +0700 GMT), Cees wrote: TF There is a file bayesit.tbp in this archive. Since I don't use TF Bayesit, I don't need it, do I? C No, you don't. Thanks for the clarification. C You might _consider_ using it... it's the best

Re: Headers not displayed

2005-08-27 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Saturday, August 27, 2005, at 19:24:14 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, August 27, 2005 19:24 my local time) Martin Schoch wrote: Don't know if already reported - the headers are not displayed in the preview and the View Folder window (under Windows 98). Yes, I can confirm this bug also on Windows 95.

Re: Headers not displayed

2005-08-27 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Saturday, August 27, 2005, at 19:31:10 [UTC+0200] (Saturday, August 27, 2005 19:31 my local time) Vili wrote: See picture: http://home.tiscali.ch/mynewsgroup/headers.jpg Can't tell you with which beta this bug started. Just to be sure: right click on the empty header, and is any header

Re[2]: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Vili
Hello Alexander, So, IMHO there are no quotation marks, but maybe the iso-encoding implies quotemarks? Just to blend your brain a little bit more: I wrote this in my prev. mail: I sent a mail to myself using TB! and a webmail service. In each case I put Macásoft, Bt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the

Re[2]: Headers not displayed

2005-08-27 Thread Vili
Hello Zygmunt, See picture: http://home.tiscali.ch/mynewsgroup/headers.jpg Can't tell you with which beta this bug started. Just to be sure: right click on the empty header, and is any header selected to show? Even if yes, add a new one and see if that appears. This is a real bug. I

Re: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello St - Musaic.Net everyone else, on 27-Aug-2005 at 19:16 you (St - Musaic.Net) wrote: When receiving and auto-redirecting mails, some of the senders (From:) are seriously crapped up: BEFORE: From: Surname, Firstname [EMAIL PROTECTED] AFTER: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Firstname [EMAIL

Re[2]: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Vili
Hello Alexander, So, now I tried two more web service, one send the same header like this (just encoding the letter á and the remaining part until the comma): To: Mac=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E1soft,?= Bt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting, though I think this is wrong. What happens when you put two 8bit

Re: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Alexander, On Saturday, August 27, 2005 at 7:01:59 PM Alexander [ASK] wrote: ASK Confirmations anyone? If so, I'll file a bugreport. ASK I'm not so sure if it really is a TB bug, or rather more a question of ASK implementation. I don't think this is a bug. According to RFC-2822 From can

Re: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Vili everyone else, on 27-Aug-2005 at 20:15 you (Vili) wrote: So, I think, the summary is: TB! does a good job when encoding special characters in mails. Man, am I glad that I did not open a BT entry yet. ;-) Thank you for your assistance, Vili. -- Best regards, Alexander

Re: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Vili everyone else, on 27-Aug-2005 at 19:39 you (Vili) wrote: So, now I tried two more web service, one send the same header like this (just encoding the letter á and the remaining part until the comma): To: Mac=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E1soft,?= Bt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting, though I

Just a quick note...

2005-08-27 Thread Henry Lefkowitz
...from mostly a lurker to say goodbye. I am leaving this list shortly, as I feel that there is another email client that meets my needs much better, and in a much more clearer and user-friendly way, than TheBat. This is not meant to be a reflection on the quality of the product. It's just not for

Re: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Palmreuther everyone else, on 27-Aug-2005 at 20:12 you (Peter Palmreuther) wrote: So I'd say it is a bug in MTA software that does not forward or store the message correctly. Thanks for the in-depth explanation, it was really helpful to understand whats going on. So I have to

Header problem, v3.60.05

2005-08-27 Thread Vili
Hello tbbeta, So, my TB! is very slow after it runs for a while, so maybe I see stuff you dont really can observe. (However, I restarted it, and I can still observe.) After installing v.3.60.05, if I open a mail with the photo shown in the header, there are two pictures shown for a while (a

Re[3]: Mass mailing, bug

2005-08-27 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/27/2005 6:33 PM Hi Vili, On 8/27/2005 Vili wrote: V Paul. Based on your mail, you did not follow the procedure. Please, V first try what I wrote and based on your answer, we can continue the V discussion. V Me, as a logical-minded :)) chemist, the process is totally illogical. V

Re[2]: TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines

2005-08-27 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/27/2005 6:53 PM Hi Alexander, On 8/27/2005 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK I'm not so sure if it really is a TB bug, or rather more a question of ASK implementation. ASK So, IMHO there are no quotation marks, but maybe the iso-encoding implies ASK quotemarks? I must plead ignorance on

Re[2]: Mass mailing, bug

2005-08-27 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/27/2005 6:45 PM Hi Greg, On 8/27/2005 Greg Strong wrote: GS I disagree. Please see my response to Vili. Thanks! -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 Current beta is 3.60.05

Re[2]: Mass mailing, bug

2005-08-27 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/27/2005 8:40 PM Hi Greg, On 8/27/2005 Greg Strong wrote: An example, I want to send a mass mailing to 100 people and have them respond with a reply to Account 1. However, Account 1 restricts me to sending 20 messages at one time and will not accept any sending messages if the count

Re[2]: Mass mailing, bug

2005-08-27 Thread Paul Van Noord
8/27/2005 9:50 PM Hi Greg, On 8/27/2005 Greg Strong wrote: GS So maybe a new feature request. An option on mass mailing where you GS choose the 'From' 'Reply-To' headers when you change the account GS from the one where the QT resides. :) Works for me! -- Take Care, Paul The Bat!

3.60.05 and Missing Menu Items

2005-08-27 Thread Jay Walker
I am still missing at least one menu item in 3.60.05. On the Specials menu, there is an empty spot under View Source that contains a submenu for New Watch Replies Folder. -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.60.02

Re: 3.60.05 and Missing Menu Items

2005-08-27 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Jay, On Sunday, August 28, 2005, 4:21:53 AM, among other things, you wrote: JW I am still missing at least one menu item in 3.60.05. On the Specials JW menu, there is an empty spot under View Source that contains a submenu JW for New Watch Replies Folder. You need to edit your tbuser.def

Re: 3.60.05 and Missing Menu Items

2005-08-27 Thread Jay Walker
On 8/28/05, Roger Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to edit your tbuser.def file Using the Edit\Find facility, find the row container item [MailerForm].[mWatchRepliesIn] and change it to container item [MsgCtl].[mWatchRepliesIn]. Yep, that does the trick. Thanks. (But I still

Re: Just a quick note...

2005-08-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Henry, On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:37:27 -0400 GMT (28/08/2005, 03:37 +0700 GMT), Henry Lefkowitz wrote: ...from mostly a lurker to say goodbye. I am leaving this list shortly, as I feel that there is another email client that meets my needs much better, Wow, I replied to the

Re: 3.60.05 and Missing Menu Items

2005-08-27 Thread Jay Walker
On 8/28/05, Greg Strong wrote: I am still missing at least one menu item in 3.60.05. On the Specials menu, there is an empty spot under View Source that contains a submenu for New Watch Replies Folder. Can NOT confirm. IIRC I had a similar problem. I think it was the 'tbuser.def' file

Re: Header problem, v3.60.05

2005-08-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili, On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:00:07 +0200 GMT (28/08/2005, 05:00 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V So, my TB! is very slow after it runs for a while, so maybe I see V stuff you dont really can observe. (However, I restarted it, and I can V still observe.) After installing v.3.60.05, if I open

Re: Bayesit.tbp (was: The Bat! 3.60.05 Forerunner (Beta) is now available)

2005-08-27 Thread Jay Walker
On 8/27/05, Cees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TF Or, into what directory should I put it? you can either delete it, or extract it in the directory your thebat.exe resides. It won't do any harm. Are you sure about that Cees? I have a BayesIt subdirectory, in which resides a file with

Re: Just a quick note...

2005-08-27 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Thomas, On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TF Henry Lefkowitz wrote: TF TF TF TF TF ...from mostly a lurker to say goodbye. I am leaving this list TF shortly, as I feel that there is another email client that meets my needs much better, TF TF TF