IMAP: Moving mails causes bluescreen

2004-09-05 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi if i move mails from local folders to folders on an IMAP-server i sometimes get a blue screen with following automatic reboot. This behavior is reproducible but it doesn't happen by every action. Some mails i can move, some i can not,

Re[3]: Invalid HTML error

2004-09-06 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Salve Allen, DH On Monday, September 6, 2004 at 9:10:13 PM you wrote: No - had a lot of such HTML errors on Win2k :-| DH And none here, yet. AD Nor here. I had *one* only on 3.0.0.6, none on 3.0.0.0 and none on 3.0.0.7. Mike - -- As I said

Re[2]: IMAP Issues

2004-11-29 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ahoi Allie, Monday, November 29, 2004 @ 10:44:51 PM: 1. Duplicate emails in list views. Sometimes when entering a folder, I can see each message twice. I have to leave the folder and re-enter to see the correct message list/count. AM For me

Re: Beta 10 IMAP No workie

2004-12-02 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mahlzeit Matt, Thursday, December 2, 2004 @ 7:36:17 PM: MT Beta 10 has ground my IMAP services to a halt. Some accounts work MT sporadically, other accounts never bring up their messages, and some MT just constantly give the IMAP - Server closed

Re[2]: Status Report on the Christmas Edition of The Bat

2004-12-15 Thread Michael Schneider
Holla Peter, Wednesday, December 15, 2004 @ 4:03:18 PM: AM - wrong message bodies being displayed for messages actually selected. PF I haven't seen this (I think). It's a problem with TB!'s cache. If you move a message to another folder and don't clear the cache, the next got message will be

Re[2]: Status Report on the Christmas Edition of The Bat

2004-12-15 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Tony, Wednesday, December 15, 2004 @ 2:24:27 PM: MM We've decided to release a stable version with new major additions at a MM cost of the nice release date, thus we will most likely to release the new MM version in 2005. TB At the risk of sounding very blunt, is there any consideration at

Re[2]: Status Report on the Christmas Edition of The Bat

2004-12-15 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Tony, Wednesday, December 15, 2004 @ 4:32:56 PM: TB I've been using Linux off and on for years and I've not found any Linux TB application that's bug free. I don't think I've used any that have less bugs TB than TB! even. At least most of this software doesn't cost any money and in the

Re: Update on the Status of Software

2005-01-17 Thread Michael Schneider
Hey Richard, Tuesday, January 18, 2005 @ 12:20:05 AM: I've noticed all is quiet at this time. Is there any anticipated time line for the next beta? Reminds me of holiday trips when we were children. Are we there yet? every five minutes. It just reminds me of the pack of bugs and problems

Re: Update on the Status of Software

2005-01-18 Thread Michael Schneider
Hallöchen Dierk, Tuesday, January 18, 2005 @ 9:48:13 AM: Sure, I haven't read many license agreements lately but, is support and answers actually what we pay for? Many big corporations offer support plans, where you have to pay extra for support. The same corporations and many lesser one,

Re: Update on the Status of Software

2005-01-18 Thread Michael Schneider
Halli hallo Vilius, Tuesday, January 18, 2005 @ 9:54:12 AM: I don't expect new version. I expect bugs to be fixed. Bugs that populated bugtraq almost 2 years now. Such as IMAP bugs, TLS/SSL bugs, dozen of interface bugs (?!) Totally agreed and supported! And to get this straight: I won't

Re: Update on the Status of Software

2005-01-18 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Dierk, Tuesday, January 18, 2005 @ 10:26:30 AM: Don't compare apples and oranges. First of all: Don't tell me what to do or not to do. Oh yeah. I gave you a strict military order and wanted you to jump up and down ;-) My godness... Michael -- Überall ist was am Kochen, aber nirgendwo

Re: Update on the Status of Software

2005-01-18 Thread Michael Schneider
Guten Tag Alexander S. Kunz, am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2005 um 18:57 schrieben Sie: In order to make TB more accessible to the growing number of novice users, such features maybe just *have* to be implemented to widen the user base. The growing number of novice users will laugh at TB! and

Re: Update on the Status of Software

2005-01-19 Thread Michael Schneider
Guten Tag Alexander, am Mittwoch, 19. Januar 2005 um 12:30 schrieben Sie: Doesn't concern me at all. I'm a private home user. Why would I need IMAP? And for the average Joe User, I bet that he'll be a POP3 user just as well. And TB is a superb POP3 client. Oh. Ok. RITlabs announces IMAP and

Re: Update on the Status of Software

2005-01-19 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Alexander, Mittwoch, 19. Januar 2005, 18:38: Please don't drag this out of the context. I was talking about novice users, which I understand are private home users (mostly), and those won't use or need IMAP as often as pro/business users, if at all. Someone correct me if this assumption

Re: Update on the Status of Software

2005-01-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Dierk, Donnerstag, 20. Januar 2005, 09:01: Apart from Leif declaring this thread DH'ed Sorry, but i read the DH-message afterwards. I chime in with the biggest mantra of shareware: Try, try, try ... before you buy. As you said. You can *try*. But only try. In 30 days you are not

Re: Priority of IMAP

2005-02-23 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Markus Gloede schrieb: |from what I've heard, IMAP is lacking somewhat. As I am entirely |IMAP based, I'm in no great hurry to test in this case. | | ACK(*). New GUI(+) or no new GUI, working IMAP(#) is what I want. DITO. But it seems that RITlabs want

Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.4 Return (pre-beta) is now available

2005-03-04 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi, it seems that TB! splits up messages although the option is disabled. I wanted to send a 5,4mb message and TB! divided it into 54 100kb multipart messages - I had to increase the limit because TB! ignores the checkbox. Confirmations? regards Michael -- Die Axt im Hause erspart den

IMAP: moving mails to server (was: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test)

2005-03-10 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 9Val: And now to something slightly different: What about the issue, that TheBat! loses eMails larger than ~1MB when moving mails from local to a remote directory via IMAP? I selected to automatically move sent eMails to the Sent-dir on the server

Re: IMAP: moving mails to server

2005-03-10 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 9Val schrieb: Do you mean it is done by outgoing filter? Have you tried manual moving/coping to IMAP? Both moving manual by drag'n'drop and moving by option to store copies automatically on the server in the account-settings. Michael - --

Re: IMAP: moving mails to server

2005-03-10 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Hmm, have no problem both for manual/filter moving (2.5Mb message). Any log messages/new strings in except.log? No, nothing. As I said on german boards there are a lot of users with the same problem. Some don't have it. Perhaps problems

Re: PocoTB

2005-03-15 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dennis Hays schrieb: Maybe. Then post-pre-beta = beta, correct? ;-) In this case it may (more appropriately) imply after the pre-beta but before the real beta... sub-beta? In this instance, I think we can call it a Beta-beta :) Ah, you mean a

Re: IMAP: moving mails to server

2005-03-15 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi 9Val schrieb: I was able to reproduce it at home. And seems that problem is not in message size, but in strange server work - while uploading it waits 60 seconds (my server) and after that closes connection. Oops, I'm sorry, it is

Re: IMAP: moving mails to server

2005-03-15 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi 9Val, Dienstag, 15. März 2005, 20:14: MS Why is the timer running while data is being sent over an MS established connection? This doesn't make sense to me. Because socket has 2 timeouts - one for receiving data, one for sending. In your case non-received timeout

Re: IMAP: moving mails to server

2005-03-15 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi 9Val, Dienstag, 15. März 2005, 21:22: MS Ok, looks like an unmeant behavior for me - any chance to be fixed in MS the near future? :-) No, AFAIK it was intended for especially for avoiding long standing server-silence. POP3 roots of TB! :) But as you see in the age of IMAP it's a

Re: IMAP: moving mails to server

2005-03-15 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi 9Val, Dienstag, 15. März 2005, 21:40: MS But as you see in the age of IMAP it's a failure. Or does RITlabs want MS their users to set the timeout to 5+ min so that bigger emails can be MS uploaded to the IMAP-Server? Will the users be happy to see a lot of staying in connection

Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.7 (pre-beta) is now available

2005-03-16 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi 9Val, Mittwoch, 16. März 2005, 11:23: The Bat! 3.0.9.7 (pre-beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb30907.rar [-] IMAP : more correct timeout handling on uploading Confirmed :-)) regards Michael -- Ich wußte schon gar nicht mehr, in welche Richtung

Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.7 (pre-beta) is now available

2005-03-16 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Tony, Mittwoch, 16. März 2005, 16:42: 9 We need testing of customization, so hope stream write 9 errors will go away and more testers will be able to perform 9 testing I've had a play and it seems to work. One problem though, there is no option to save changes like an OK or Apply

Re: double click message - folder view ??

2005-03-17 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Liz, Donnerstag, 17. März 2005, 20:02: but only for that message. It doesn't remember it, at least not here. Hmmm...it remembers it for me ok. Wish it remembered it for me.. Snivvel Dito. I can resize that area but TheBat! doesn't save this setting. regards Michael -- Titanic

Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available

2005-03-31 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cees wrote: f :-( PLEASE give me a link to the file I CANNOT logon have stated that before and don't know why that doesn't work. I HATE the logon part. Please provide normal link! Try

Re: IMAP: No Message loaded semi-workaround

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Thoene: It sure does. Sometimes it takes so long that I have to completely restart TB! to get it to load again. In my example above, I can clearly see something happening as soon as my config screen opens. It's like TB! is saying Oh don't go

Re: IMAP: No Message loaded semi-workaround

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -=Curtis=-: What works for me when things are stuck is a server disconnect/reconnect operation. Doesn't work every time here. Sometimes I really have to shut down and restart TheBat! if I want to continue working on the server. Michael - --

Re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available

2005-08-19 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi George, I've noticed a strange thing. While I tested search, a new message had come. But instead of being filtered it stayed in the Inbox. When I run refilter, the filter executed normally and the message went to the right folder. Filters don't work here, too. Even if i try to refilter ...

Re: IMAP performance

2005-08-19 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Clive, What HAVE you done with this release? IMAP performance in fetching and displaying messages seems just about as quick now as it does with another often-discussed IMAP client! Confirmed ;-) Now please fix the filterbugs and I'm happy! But don't come up with v4 on 1st Sept 2005 ;-

Re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available

2005-08-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Peter, Its the runner-up of version fore...four... September 1st is close. *eg* *erm* You're adjuring it, don't you know? *bg* Hint: painting, devil, wall ... PLEASE STOP IT!!! ;-) Some call it meeting trouble the halfway ... Some call it realism :- But the name fourrunner - erm -

Re: The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner is now available

2005-08-21 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi George, Filters don't work here, too. Even if i try to refilter ... TheBat! tells me, that it searched x mails and y mails were filtered but absolutely nothing happend. I can't confirm that. With the exception of the problem I mentioned, I had no other problems with filters. Filters act

TB! stops filtering after some hours (IMAP)

2005-08-31 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi, after some days of testing I have to say, that TB! randomly stops filtering messages on IMAP-accounts after some hours in this beta-circle. TB! stays open all day and after unknown amount of hours filters which have been working several hours ago just do nothing anymore. Emails stay in the

Re: TB! stops filtering after some hours (IMAP)

2005-08-31 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Curtis, Do you keep the connection centre open at all times? If you check the CC when the filtering stops, you may notice that the queue for the Inbox commands is stuck, in that there are a list of commands there that haven't been carried out. Either exiting and restarting or disconnecting

Re: IMAP threading on receiving new messages

2005-08-31 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Martin, Am Wednesday, August 31, 2005, 9:16:27 PM, schreibst du: Messages aren't threaded when receiving messages into local cache Threading only occurs after switching between folders. See attached images. Possibly won't notice this if you keep TB! open all day long. Can anyone confirm?

Re: TB! stops filtering after some hours (IMAP)

2005-09-05 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi, filters still don't work permanently with the new beta. Michael -- Nbg, 05.09.2005, 22:43 TheBat! 3.61.03 beta - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Filmgesetz 97: Eine Überbelastung der CPU führt zur Explosion des Monitors. PGP oder S/MIME-Verschlüsselung erwünscht!

Re: The Bat! 3.61.04 BETA

2005-09-14 Thread Michael Schneider
IMAP-Filtering still stops working after not reproduceable time-periods. ohyeah... *singing* I think they did it again They made me believe, the bugs have all gone Oh baby It might seem like it works But it doesn't mean that they're serious 'Cause to loose all my e-mails That is just so

Re: Saving decrypted messages

2005-09-17 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Vili, Hmmm, I did but I cannot reproduced. I just encrypted the mail, did not signed it. Did you sign it? I did the mentioned steps (also signed the message) and can not reproduce it also. Michael -- Nbg, 17.09.2005, 19:09 TheBat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build

Re[2]: Saving decrypted messages

2005-09-17 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Mary, Am Saturday, September 17, 2005, 7:20:30 PM, schriebst du: What are you using to encrypt? I am using PGP 6.5.8ckt-Build 09b2. GnuPG 1.4.2. regards, Michael -- Nbg, 17.09.2005, 19:36 TheBat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Auch wenn alle einer Meinung

Re: The Bat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-09-18 Thread Michael Schneider
Filters still randomly stop working after some time. Michael -- Nbg, 18.09.2005, 16:38 TheBat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Lieber Kissenschlachten als Robben schlachten. PGP oder S/MIME-Verschlüsselung erwünscht! pgp1Zh9xbImAW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: SOT: New release information

2005-09-19 Thread Michael Schneider
Hey 9val, Happy Birthday :-) But don't drink too much, otherwise you may get some more 'echos' in your head ;-) Michael -- Nbg, 19.09.2005, 19:06 TheBat! 3.61.05 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Als Gott den Mann schuf, hat sie bloss geübt. PGP oder

Re[4]: 3.61.07

2005-09-24 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Vili, Am Friday, September 23, 2005, 11:32:05 PM, schriebst du: Auto-filtering has stopped working on one of my IMAP accounts with this beta. Anyone else? It has not stopped working, it just seems to work intermittently. I don't see any real pattern. Also have pauses when

Re: AVs using green arrow icon for Replies [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.08 Echo (Beta) is now available]

2005-09-28 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mary Bull wrote: I have just had to kill The Bat! v. 3.61.08 with the Windows Task Manager. [...] Totally Confirmed regards, Michael - -- 28.09.2005, 19:56 Glück ist ein Stuhl, der plötzlich dasteht, wenn man sich zwischen zwei andere setzen

Re: IMAP - Messages have 0 size

2005-09-29 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Thoene wrote: Did you try the Reload option? Usually works for me. Right click on message - Reload. Yes that did it. I wonder why it didn't load properly the first time. Not sure. Happens to me about once every couple of days or so.

Re: av's

2005-09-29 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vili wrote: Just change back to 07. I would say, we should not use v.08, lets just say, it was an unusable version... We need a (more) stable version to test the new features. Agreed regards Michael - -- 29.09.2005, 21:56 Glück ist ein Stuhl,

Re: IMAP - Messages have 0 size

2005-09-29 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Thoene wrote: Try the Refresh option on the entire folder. That helps sometimes. As you said. Sometimes ;-) Changed back to .07 - testing Thunderbird 1.5 beta parallely. regards Michael - -- 29.09.2005, 22:32 Glück ist ein Stuhl, der

Re: The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-09-30 Thread Michael Schneider
9Val wrote: Here is a short list of changes: [-] (#0005151) Unable to export twice EML messages to the same dirrectory [-] Other : problem caused Backup freeze [+] Other : suppot HTML clipboar in viewer [-] Other : wrong label alignment in Account Propertis [-] Other : AVs on editor

Re[2]: IMAP hanging 3.61.05

2005-10-02 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Curtis, Am Sunday, October 2, 2005, 4:02:19 AM, schriebst du: I've been running v3.61.09 beta all day without interruption. Things have been quite fine. No hiccups at all really. The main good point is that I haven't had to restart because the connection has flaked out on me. Connection

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Michael Schneider
Paul Van Noord wrote: Expecting them to focus on IMAP seems quite selfish to me. I don't think it is selfish to demand, what the developers promised (for two years now). Michael -- 03.10.2005, 13:14 Glück ist ein Stuhl, der plötzlich dasteht, wenn man sich zwischen zwei andere setzen will.

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Michael Schneider
Dwight A Corrin wrote: Wanting IMAP improvements and providing complete and informative feedback to the developers is a good thing. Expecting them to focus on IMAP seems quite selfish to me. I think once they undertook to become an IMAP client, they undertook the responsibility to make it

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Michael Schneider
Paul Van Noord wrote: JT I intended to forward the message with the attachment, but that is not JT what happened. I have determined that the attachment was not sent JT because of the setting in 1) above because when I reverse the setting JT in 1) above, the attachment forwards fine. Seems

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Michael Schneider
Martin Webster wrote: Do you have When browsing messages, only retrieve message text checked in your account settings? If so, what you see is correct because the attachment isn't in the local cache. TB! is forwarding the message as it is; nothing more nothing less. It can't send something it

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Michael Schneider
Dwight A Corrin wrote: To me, using the attachment is what one is doing if one is attempting to forward it. TB! should assume that the user wants it to do what the user tells it to do. If the user is not interested in the attachment, why should TB! know to go back and download it then forward

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Michael Schneider
Dwight A Corrin wrote: Why should some User forward a dummy-attachment? Can't answer that. Don't know why wouldn't download attachments in the first place. Bit if took positive steps to disassociate from the attachment, why should client think was suddenly interested in what user left

Re: The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-07 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Matt, Am Friday, October 7, 2005, 6:46:30 PM, schriebst du: On IMAP accounts, I can no longer find the reload option. It used to be in the Message menu as well as the right-click menu for individual messages. Gone. Not Confirmed. Both options available :) Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-07 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Peter, Am Friday, October 7, 2005, 5:20:33 PM, schriebst du: 9 [*] IMAP :changes in request queue Sounds good. Can you tell more? Is this related to reserve one for downloading messages? As I noticed on the connection center, the IMAP-tasks are now executed block by block. I have

Re: Error in header display (3.61.11)

2005-10-07 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Melanie, Am Friday, October 7, 2005, 7:48:31 PM, schriebst du: with the newest beta i have problems with iso-encoded headers: Bibliothek der Fachhochschule K=?iso-8859-1?Q?=F6?=ln Everything before =?iso-8859... gets lost. Confirmed. Just noticed it... coincidental while receiving an eMail

R: The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-08 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Clive, Am Saturday, October 8, 2005, 9:12:21 AM, schriebst du: Though I can still use this beta, there's a distinctly palpable reduction in how quickly messages load. Ditto. It's unusable. But it seems more stable and reliable. After more than 12 hours no connection losses, filters are

Re[2]: Error in header display (3.61.11)

2005-10-08 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Zygmunt, Am Friday, October 7, 2005, 11:01:51 PM, schriebst du: I can confirm this partially, i.e. only for underlining blanks between words with ISO-8859-2 encoded characters. In addition, I observe strange symbol (small square) at the end of such header lines (see attached picture).

Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-12 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vilius Šumskas wrote: [-] IMAP revert to old queue Yes, IMAP was slower in previous beta. But as I noticed it was somewhat more inteligent. Message counters updated more correctly, etc. If only you could mix that up with old queue speed,

Re: Umlauts in Subject aren't displayed prop erly (Ä)

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Raymund, Am Wednesday, October 19, 2005, 10:31:44 AM, schriebst du: The interesting thing is that this time the Ä showed up correctly, but some of the spaces were shown as underscores. In the original message the subject looks like this: Umlauts_in_Subject_aren't displayed properly (Ä)

Re: Umlauts in Subject aren't displayed prop erly (Ä)

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Tony, Am Wednesday, October 19, 2005, 9:16:04 AM, schriebst du: Cannot confirm this they are displayed here okay What's an umlaut? culture :-D ÄÖÜ äöü ... german umlauts ;) Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D TheBat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2

Re: Umlauts in Subject aren't displayed prop erly (Ä)

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Tony, Am Wednesday, October 19, 2005, 10:52:09 AM, schriebst du: culture I have a greenhouse but I've never grown an umlaut before. Ok, that was an own goal by myself :D Replace culture with civilization ... or just forget about it ;) Seems that I need more coffee... Michael -- Jabber

Re: The Bat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Sean, Am Wednesday, October 19, 2005, 9:25:30 PM, schriebst du: [-] Other When POP3 was configured to use connection Secure to Regular Port and the certificate was invalid, The Bag! did add a meaningless message to the account log. is The Bag! a new

Re: The Bat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi 9Val, still problems with german umlauts and other special characters in the header. Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D TheBat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Die Erkentnisse von heute sind die Irrtümer von morgen. PGP oder

Re: pgp(mime) not working?

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Henk, On Thursday, October 20, 2005, 6:45:51 AM: Had some problems signing my previous message pgp/mime: gpg: no default secret key: bad passphrase gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: bad passphrase Just signed a testmessage to myself, no problem here. I'll activate PGP/Mime for this message

Re: hang on

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Tony, On Thursday, October 20, 2005, 10:54:36 AM: I'm getting a 'no message displayed' message on screen Please don't say that the IMAP phenomenon is creeping into the POP scene as well :) Hey, that's equality. Why all the fun just for the IMAP-users? You have the right for a daily

Re: hang on

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Peter, On Thursday, October 20, 2005, 12:42:17 PM: I don't think this is fair. While I would like Ritlabs to do this too, they have to generate revenue and you get that through new features and not fixing (small) bugs (I am not saying that the outstanding bugs are small, but only that

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Thomas, On Thursday, October 20, 2005, 3:00:15 PM: It's a long-standing wish to have the option of downloading pictures (default would be off): http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1780 Oh ... there were many heated debates on German boards and mailing-lists about this topic. And I got

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Vili, On Thursday, October 20, 2005, 3:52:36 PM: Just to give you a hint: Let's say I am a smart spammer. I write an email using some well-known email address as sender. Using offsite images, I put a just-for-you link to a picture. You check the offsite image. Bam. I know that

Re: hang on

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Cees, On Thursday, October 20, 2005, 4:03:58 PM: last night at 03:30 the scheduler took care of a perfect backup of thebat! which it does every night. The backup function itself is something that needs general overhaul ... Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Paul, Am Thursday, October 20, 2005, 4:15:16 PM, schriebst du: There is a difference. A conscious effort must be made which provokes thought. As you surely have read, the suggestion is _not_ to activate image downloading globally or as default but to let the user decide. So you see. No

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Paul, Am Thursday, October 20, 2005, 4:52:55 PM, schriebst du: Too many users do not understand the ramifications of their choices and opt for the eye-candy because it make them feel good until it causes a problem. Then they call me to bail them out. I have never had to bail a TB user!!

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Vili, On Thursday, October 20, 2005, 5:33:21 PM: If you want this, there are many places for you to go get it. Please do not tamper with one of the significant positives of the TB for the sake of convenience or pleasure. Well said. If it's well said to tell customers to grab their money

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Vili, Am Thursday, October 20, 2005, 5:37:32 PM, schreibst du: Same applies for TB!. Just please believe me: 90% of the users are DUMB for computers like hell... They are not dumb in life. But PC does not fill their life, as fills people's at this list, they are kind people, etc.

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Alexander, Am Thursday, October 20, 2005, 6:00:01 PM, schriebst du: I am not so sure about that. A lot of newbie question are posted on TBUDL. If you think your grandma can't handle TB, it will be like that. If you just go and tell her use this, it'll probably work. Well if a normal user

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Leif, Am Thursday, October 20, 2005, 6:10:02 PM, schriebst du: That would be a very incorrect statement. Mary Bull... Front and center please. Mary came to TB with very little knowledge of how e-mail and the internet worked. Mary isn't the only one. There are quite a few (see TBUDL). And

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Leif, thunderbird has to be most insecure eMail-Client on the world if someone is reading your message. Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D TheBat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Neues in Sachen Virenschutz: Das Festplattenkondom!

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Leif, Am Thursday, October 20, 2005, 6:43:39 PM, schriebst du: thunderbird has to be most insecure eMail-Client on the world if someone is reading your message. Ummm, because it was plain-text, because I didn't href any images, because Thunderbird performs the most basic functionality of

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Leif, it's nice that you want to teach me. Really. But I don't need new teachers or preachers for the one and only religion. There are more than enough evangelists out there. There are more than enough wars out there about what OS is the best or about which office suite. I don't need another

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Leif, On October 20, 2005, 7:21:56 PM: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html#Thunderbird These are bugs. Bugs can always happen. And these are *fixed* bugs. As I told in my other mail, if you want to hunt all *possible* security holes down, you have to shut

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Mike, On Thursday, October 20, 2005, 7:49:01 PM: Yes, and my car can go up on the sidewalk if I want it. Not the cars fault, just the loose nut behind the wheel. Allowing images to be viewed in TheBat! makes TB! no less secure. Again, it is the loose nut behind the keyboard. That's the

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Paul, On October 20, 2005, 8:01:48 PM: It was sold as the Secure E-mail Client. That says something to me. It says it's secure because nothing else than pop3-fetch and smtp-send works. *SCNR* ;-))) Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D TheBat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) -

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Leif, On Thursday, October 20, 2005, 8:13:25 PM:: I'm very disheartened to hear that you care so very little for your fellow man. That's part of the problem with the world today. Nobody cares, it's never anyone's fault, and it's always someone else's problem. Is it my fault as a car

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-21 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi James, On Friday, October 21, 2005, 3:39:40 PM: What about a message pane toggle that is off by default for every message. Once the user confirms that they want to take the risk, the click the toggle. They could also click OK on a warning alert. The resulting message opens in a tab like

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-21 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Paul, On Friday, October 21, 2005, 4:14:42 PM: What about the other features of TheBat! ? To show how silly your way of arguing is: You can have this feature right now: Yeah. You can have the feature of a perfect and secure eMailClient. Just like you want it - right out of the 80s. Try

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-21 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Paul, Am Friday, October 21, 2005, 4:49:18 PM, schriebst du: I do seeI'm not sure about you... Then you're not sure about yourself. I just used your line of arguments ;) Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D TheBat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2

Re: Offsite Images

2005-10-21 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: If thats the case, don't sign the wish for a whitelist. :) Ah, that's splittings hairs :-D Any possibility to view remote images if I want to would be a step forward. Clicking on a button for each message or draging the

Re: The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-21 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi 9Val, The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available from: Headerfields with umlauts are still crippled. see attached picture Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D TheBat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Liebst du etwas - lasse es los. Kehrt

Re: The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-21 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Francis, On October 21, 2005, 8:27:10 PM: If you look at the headers (Ctrl+Shift+K), do you notice that the subject is splitted on two lines ? The sample of umlaüts send to this list displays correctly here, but subject is on one line only. No, in my example there was only one

Re: The Bat! 3.62 is now available

2005-10-24 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Tony, Am Monday, October 24, 2005, 9:10:17 PM, schriebst du: Do you like Abba? Remember any of their song titles? If I'm getting Ritlabs/TheBat! and Abba song titles in connection there are two possible matches: - Waterloo (just the title, not the lyrics :- ) - Money, Money, Money And if

Re: The Bat! 3.62 is now available

2005-10-24 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Alexander, Am Monday, October 24, 2005, 9:37:37 PM, schriebst du: I think I shouldn't have asked that question to raise this kind of speculation, there's been no word from RL if this version is planned to become a final. Call it experience. When did Ritlabs release a msi-testpackage in

Re: Thät is a really löng subject liné t o see what TB does with 8bit encóded headers n öw! (was: The Bat! 3.62.01 is now availa ble)

2005-10-25 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Alexander, Am Tuesday, October 25, 2005, 6:07:31 PM, schriebst du: [-] Headers with MIME-encoded words were incorrectly decoded Would this be bug http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5199 or is it something else? After I did not find any wrong decoded headers and your nice subject seems

Re: The Bat! 3.62.01 is now available

2005-10-25 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi MAU, Am Tuesday, October 25, 2005, 6:17:54 PM, schriebst du: H! I wonder what the 'speculators' in the list will say now when they see that v3.62 was not released ;-) Some guys did not anticipate such a reaction of the community and chose to work on? Or where's your explanation for

Re: The Bat! 3.62.01 is now available

2005-10-25 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi MAU, Am Tuesday, October 25, 2005, 6:37:10 PM, schriebst du: 3.62 was to test msi installation. Or do you think that the 20 bug fixes announced with 3.62.01 were all fixed in the last 24 hours? ;-) Why changing the version just for the msi package? Why not releasing 3.61.15 beta with the

Re: The Bat! 3.62.01 is now available

2005-10-25 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi Alexander, Am Tuesday, October 25, 2005, 7:04:40 PM, schriebst du: Hello MAU everyone else, on 25-Okt-2005 at 18:17 you (MAU) wrote: H! I wonder what the 'speculators' in the list will say now when they see that v3.62 was not released ;-) There's no denying that an MSI test was

Re: The Bat! 3.62.01 is now available

2005-10-25 Thread Michael Schneider
Hi NetVicious, Am Tuesday, October 25, 2005, 8:52:27 PM, schriebst du: Easy. The Msi it's done by Maxim, and it seems 9Val don't insert all the changes in the msi version. If it's so easy, that the lef Ritlabs hand doesn't know what the other does, then all of my doubts about this software

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