Re: 5.0.14.3
Hi, on Exchange accounts every outgoing emails are parked. Will be this corrected? regards Sebastian Current beta is 5.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP ACL function
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday morning, Maxim wrote something like this: Will TB eventually support the IMAP ACL function ? We didn't see any demand for it so far, why do you need IMAP ACL? Will TB eventually support the ... ? IDLE http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2177 CONDSTORE http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4551 BURL http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4468 CATENATE http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4469 MULTIAPPEND http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3502.txt Named Searches http://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc5466 ESEARCH http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4731.txt WITHIN http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5032.txt ESORT http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5267.txt CONTEXT http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5267.txt -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 5.0.0.113 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.13.7
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday evening, Sean wrote something like this: The Bat! 4.2.13.7 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42137.rar [-] (Beta) issues with handling IMAP messages Tried and gone back to .4. Cannot load or reload new imap messages Sean IMAP works fine here. I can read mails from thbat.net IMAP account and send now this answer. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.2.13.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.13.7
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday evening, Sean wrote something like this: The Bat! 4.2.13.7 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42137.rar [-] (Beta) issues with handling IMAP messages Tried and gone back to .4. Cannot load or reload new imap messages Sean IMAP works fine here. I can read mails from thbat.net IMAP account and send now this answer. I use several Google Apps account similar to thebat.net, where I have an unused account, and all cannot download imap mail using anything after .4 What can I say. Works really fine here. I have no problems with my imap accounts - OK I have one problem but this is not related to TB (simply can not open more then 3 imap sessions with gmail different accounts) -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.2.13.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7 and Smart Bat
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Saturday evening, Stuart wrote something like this: Could someone please test. Using Windows 7 RTM, when I open SmartBat there is no icon showing up in the taskbar. If I then change the focus to another window SmartBat disappears and needs to be reopened. At this point if you had scrolled up the page in SmartBat you position would have been lost. Confirmations? Confirmed. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.2.10.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [UR] 4.2.10.7 (was: 4.2.10.7 (it also contains the tbmapi.dll))
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday evening, Jens wrote something like this: What is the DELMSI.exe which is included in the ZIPfile? I asked that and got no answer. That's why i asked again... ;-) It's normal. RITs support not exist. Try to ask via support option in The Bat and you will see. Oh sorry, you will not see the answer. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.2.10.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Exchange and transfer encoding
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Where can I found transfer encoding option for non-ascii characters on EXCHANGE account? I need to change this from Quoted-Printable to base64. For IMAP and POP3 is in account properties and mail management. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.2.10.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.2.9.5 (BETA)
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday evening, Maxim wrote something like this: The Bat! 4.2.9.5 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4295.rar What's new in 4.2.9.5 since 4.2.9.4: [*] When working with S/MIME internal implementation, the Select Certificate dialogue box is now sizeable. [+] It is now possible to search S/MIME certificates by e-mail when using the Internal Implementation [*] A warning is given when the user clicks Destroy all private keys button in the hardware token editor [*] When using OTFE with Aladdin eToken and the user did enter an incorrect PIN during the startup, The Bat! did exit; now it offers to enter the PIN again Confirmed - NO IMAP CHANGES -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.2.9.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request Message-ID Link
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Monday evening, Jens wrote something like this: is there any possibility to open a malformed Message-ID Link like: 200906281855.11598.lis...@domain.com maybe by marking/selecting and Kontext Menue open as Message-ID? You can use JavaScript Macros plugin and attached function. With this plugin you can add new button with Find MID functionality (icon in attachment). So best feature is: - creating custom buttons that can run Quick Templates -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawskiattachment: find.bmp findmid.js Description: Binary data Current beta is 4.2.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Again IMAP Support (was: The Bat! 4.2 release)
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Tuesday night, Marek wrote something like this: Pardon me, but the customer – in this case it is *us* – does not care about *internal* plans behind closed doors. The customer wants to rely on official statements from RITLabs and not on rumors. pardon accepted, but we in TBBETA are not only customers. Oh, come on, Marek! If we are primarily *not* customers, what do you think we are? read carefully what I wrote. You are customer, but not only. Please go to this Forum http://thebat.pl/forum/index.php and search for all IMAP related topics. Then go to this Forum http://www.batboard.net/ and look how many topics is about IMAP problems. Got to this forum http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/ and also search for IMAP topics. You can compare this results with POP related topics. You think that all IMAP related discussions on tbbeta are only minority reports or just only this people that read this discussion list? BTW if RIT want more new customers then should also work on RTL support. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: the macro under Windows 7
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Tuesday afternoon, Jens wrote something like this: Can we have IMAP rework/fixes instead new features? Tell me, which Feature will be comming new soon? [+] Possibility to postpone message delivery [+] Invoke exclusive access check option in the Watch and Send files scheduler action to avoid sending files still being in process [+] the /REFILTER command line parameter now includes parameters for specifying filter sets: INCOMING (aka IN), OUTGOING (aka OUT), READ (RD), REPLIED (RP) and MANUALONLY (aka MANUAL) for using manual filters only. E.g.: /REFILTER;F=\\Account\My Folder;IN;REPLIED [+] A command line option /NO_GETADDRINFO to disable using getaddrinfo(EX) API call, may be useful when antivirus software cannot emulate these functions [+] Added auto-highlite for icq: and rss: URLs ... -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: the macro under Windows 7
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Monday evening, Maxim wrote something like this: Can we have IMAP fixes now instead of bugfixes for even unreleased OS? Thanks. No, there will be no IMAP fixes now. IMAP requires serious work, not just fixes, it takes time. Can we have IMAP rework/fixes instead new features? -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration - v4.x
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Monday evening, Volker wrote something like this: 4. 0.x is not supported anymore too. do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest bugfix for 4.0.x was released three weeks ago. Yes. But there will be no butfixes further. Are there any known *showstoppers* for that release cycle? I really cannot remember one … Maybe: [-] (#0003362) The password of an account-group cannot be removed [-] another serious UTF-7 encoding bug in IMAP folder names which might cause IMAP unusable under Windows configured for multibyte-character as a default language (e.g. Chinese) [-] (#0007358) Newly created Folders could lost their data when they were moved outside parent folders and then renamed [-] NTLM authentication didn't work [-] Fixed a serious bug with state-dependent encodings like UTF-7 - last character could have been lost. [-] Fixed an AV when importing a corrupt address book [-] The Bat! failed to generate an RSA key pair with eToken Pro 4.20B [-] (#0006994) Registry entries are not removed completely during uninstall [-] bug in ImapUTF7Encode [-] (#0007297) Folder commands were not properly updated when the active folder changed while the main window was hidden [-] (#0007372) Error List index out of bounds (20) when doing drag-and-drop with message list tabs created by Quick Search [-] (#0007307) Windows/HTML editor doesn't support Insert/Overwrite, but the corresponding status bar element wasn't hidden. [-] (#0005868) Remind Later Textual Error [-] (#0007390) Memo box is in Address Book Group has fixed size even dialog is resizable [-] (#0006491) String: Orphan filters not translatable [-] (#0006488) Color names in in the color section combo-boxes were not translatable [-] When importing from Microsoft Office Outlook contacts, and a contact did contain a distribution list, The Bat! could not continue importing addresses. [-] (#0006335) When a Quick Search filter tab already existed, it was not focused by searching for the same text [-] (#0007339) Window state is always Maximized when starting with /minimize and restoring from tray [-] (#0007303) Size and position of Account properties dialog is not saved [-] (#0006329) Message list tabs were not restored from backup [-] (#0002495) Inconsistency when navigating between tabs using a keyboard [-] (#0001104) Account is not selected, if the user logs as a different The Bat! account [-] (#0005874) Tabs could be too narrow, e.g. the All tab in the folder tree and the message list. [-] (#0007266) Inconsistencies with default mailto: account -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.1.1.3 (RC1) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration - v4.x
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Tuesday morning, Volker wrote something like this: Yes. But there will be no butfixes further. Are there any known *showstoppers* for that release cycle? I really cannot remember one … Maybe: I think you got me wrong: All the bugs listed below (except the two UTF-7 bugs in IMAP and two minor bugs) *are* fixed in the 4.0.x release cycle, i.e. with a 4.0.39.39 all these bugs are fixed and you do not need to pay for a new license key. I wanted to know, if there are any old *not* fixed showstopper bugs, that make The Bat! 4. 0.39.39 *unusable*? Okay, you may say that you do not want to work with a Beta, so you do not have all these fixes with the latest release of 4.0.x, which is the 4.0.38. But I really cannot say that this version is absolutely unusable. I not say that TB v4 even in Beta cycle is unusable. I only write that there is couple of bugs that are not fixed in FINAL version and in v4.0.x FINAL will be not fixed. RITs policy is ~ number UP, support DOWN ... In this case this is my opinion of course. What I really expect/want - ROADMAP. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.1.1.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.1
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Monday morning, Mackley wrote something like this: but this article is still published on your Web site http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2305 maybe you have to delete it, it seems as a broken promises.. mid:15710142945.20080207212...@ritlabs.com Maxim Masiutin m...@ritlabs.com (Ritlabs) 7 lutego 2008, 20:28:06 (Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:28:06 +0200) Hello Henk, Thursday, February 7, 2008, 9:25:49PM, you wrote: Well a new gui is extraordinary enough ;-) The new GUI is already in 4.0. BTW: mid:1129592098.20080208064...@thebat.net Stefan Tanurkov ste...@thebat.net (RITLABS) 8 lutego 2008, 05:46:59 (Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:46:59 +0200) Hello Vilius, VŠ Can we have an IMAP fixes now? Fixes? We are going to rewrite it almost from scratch :-) When can I expect this? -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.1.1.1 (RC1) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Duplicated The Bat! in Taskbar under Vista
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Monday night, Marek wrote something like this: user reported me, sometimes it has TB duplicated in Taskbar, anybody can confirm? User has Windows Vista build 6000 and 4.0.14.3. Confirmed here. WinVista 32 bit -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AV when checking IMAP accounts
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Maybe this AV is related to 2 imap accounts on one server - gmail. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawskiattachment: AV-imap.png Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RC2 - clear old msgs - NOT
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday afternoon, Jan wrote something like this: folder msg limit, i.e. set to max # of msgs ignored folder msg retention x days ignored Confirmed. Major issue for me. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search fails while complete
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday afternoon, Jens wrote something like this: search fails, while complete. Can't confirm. But ... Buttons works wrong. After 1st button - search not go to first After 2st button - when you at last search not go to previous (see red serch background) After 3rd - it is not searched from coursosr position After 4th - works like next button -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawskiattachment: search.png Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ReFilter dosent work
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! I have many filters that moves messages from Inbox folders to common folders. With latest TB release I see that Re-filter (Ctrl+F) option not working. Of course in log I see that messages are filtered but in practice is not moved to common folder. I see this behavior on pop3 and imap account. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.99.29
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Wednesday evening, Thomas wrote something like this: It only fixes the plugin api bug of 3.99.27. The IntPack has left unchanged. I was happy to early. 29 still shutting down with Regula AS Plugin Confirmed here. OTFE and Regula -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[IMAP] Unread messages
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! See attachment. This is IMAP account. Can you tell me where is this unread message? SmartSpace on IMAP accounts not work so I can not go directly through this option to this message. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawskiattachment: imap.png Current beta is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP for thebat.net accounts availabel
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Wednesday evening, Matt wrote something like this: To setup just use this info: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799 This is available to only those domains that Google has enabled IMAP. support for. I do not have IMAP option in WWW Settings. But I just create new account in TB and chose IMAP connection. It works for me. See attachment. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawskiattachment: thebat.net IMAP.png Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP for thebat.net accounts availabel
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! To setup just use this info: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [beta 25] Mark all Messages Read for sub folders gone
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Attachments: [1] No subfolders.png BTW after language change this dialog box is not translated. I must restart TB to have different language in this dialogbox. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [beta 25] Mark all Messages Read for sub folders gone
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday afternoon, Marek wrote something like this: In new beta there is no option to mark also subfolders as read (ctrl+M). See attachment. confirmed, please add this to Bugtraq. Please add note here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6508 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Codepage changing
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Any confirmation? -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Simple MAPI and ActiveSync broken
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Here screenshots after TB Simple Mapi install. Someone can confirm or not this bug? -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawskiattachment: AS and TB Simple MAPI.png Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Codepage changing
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Problem not exists up to v.3.95.6 only after this version. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Simple MAPI and ActiveSync broken
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Wednesday morning, Daniel wrote something like this: Here screenshots after TB Simple Mapi install. Someone can confirm or not this bug? tha same situation. At the moment I'm not using Simple MAPI from TB Thanks Daniel. Please add note also here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6506 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Codepage changing
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! BTW I create messages mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (and also this message) in utf-8 and you recived in us-ascii. ą -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Codepage changing
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Wednesday morning, Hendrik wrote something like this: BTW I create messages mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (and also this message) in utf-8 and you recived in us-ascii. a This should be an feature: even if you select utf-8, us-ascii is used if there is no character not included in us-ascii. If my mind is right, this is even an recommendation from the eMail standardisation: always use the most simple method, if an more sophisticated method is not necessary. Yes this behavior is lowest common denominator (RFC2046 - 4.1.2. Charset Parameter ). But when I set UTF in template: %CHARSET=utf-8 prior TB versions use this charset and not change to us-ascii or winCP - that first problem and second is that standard codepages are us-ascii, ISO and utf not Windows CP. Third that I set in template ISO-8859-2 and TB change this to win-1250 - not US-ASCII. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in night, Krzysztof wrote something like this: Tell me why this happen? I suspect a quite a big number of reasons are involved. Frequency of releases being a lesser one. I'd roughly say: (...) But this is RITs side. Normal user do not see this. You asked why that happened. So I wrote about my ideas what the reasons are. Normal users see results of the reasons above. The results are *NOT* things to cure. The reasons are. But this results show why TB ...none of these posts contains a detailed question that could lead to a conclusion that it not true that you can set everything so that it works exactly as in OE. Hence I re-state my assertion: I believe you can set everything so that it works exactly as in OE. hmmm Belive or not but not everything. Once again - see above links. Once again: the above links do NOT give detailed information about what can't be set up. That's why I'm asking. What is this:? Nie da się - każde konto musi mieć swój własny zestaw standardowych folderów. Another thing I notice after reading the articles you liked above is that people on that forum seem to be quite unhelpful. When you activate account, you must accept rules. One of rule is that you not ask about something that is in manual or you can find in forum archive, tb-l archive and PSTB FAQ - use search option. And you end up with… how many? 6 topics with virtually the same content: -How do I...? -RTFM. Sometimes better write more. Or give an exact link not just read the manual. Otherwise we can replace all answers with Google it!. Please do not judge people that help other users. You do not help on this forum even one more time and have knowledge how to set TB like OE up. People that help maybe do not know this trick. You know - please write this, it is very important for many users. Help them but nor here. Each topic starts with a question if it was possible to set TB up in an OE-manner. The answers are short and there are just two of them. Either no, So please support RITs and PSTB forum and only one time answer (you read, you know answer? you not answer - you are quite unhelpful?). I'm not even registered there and I just saw those posts Rules are the some like you accepted with tb-l registration. You are registered tb-l user. Topics are above. There is no possibility to have 5 different Accounts and one folder tree like in OE. You can only cheat but you newer hide 5 accounts. And this answer is in PSTB FAQ, you can find in forum and in tb-l. You can hide the accounts in a tree. You need to use color groups. Since some versions you can apply a color group to a folder. A new tab will appear by the bottom of the account tree. Select it. Voila. And filters? And many Inboxes? You have read questions? Perhaps it would be better to instead just explain exactly how to set things up. Once again: there is no such possibility. Over. But you still didn't explain what exactly is not possible :P. See posts dates and TB versions. See changelog and note date for: - virtual folders - folder tabs And think about: - options for global inbox and then when something arrive to this inbox filters sorting - extended and not manual - automatic account choosing by new message or answer EOT -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in morning, Hans wrote something like this: I am a registered user of The Bat! but also of Pocomail, try this program, has a lot of features, The Bat! does not have! Or try Mokum Mail, http://www.blokker.net/whatsnew.htm As a registered user I always use this very safe program Thanks for advice, but there is no other email software that have so superb message templates implementation. Maybe sometimes it is buggy but with this all bugs is excellent. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in night, Marek wrote something like this: When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I expect really big changes and privately one little bugfix (regression fix) - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5690. did You paid for upgrade from 3.0 to 3.0.1, from 3.0.1 to 3.5, from 3. 5 from 3.7 etc? And what are major improvements, new major features in this v3 builds? I remember one feature that now not exists. new filtering system, new customiser, rewritten message list pane, Unicode in many parts, Vista support etc. And in v4 we have plans for: - improved Unicode support - new GUI = new customiser, message list pane? [+] First usable new filtering system this feature is from TB 2.13 Lucky Beta1 And something about RIT updates: http://fileforum.betanews.com/review/942557075/2/view I do not remember all, some things can be major for You, some for another, for example downloading images to HTML is major for You, not for me - I like filtering system a lot... HTML images are not so important for me. For newsletters I use this http://konrad_sz.republika.pl/tb/htmlpics.htm old version http://konrad_sz.republika.pl/tb/htmlpics_old.htm But this is not for normal users. V3 was developed more than 3 years and You paid once only. Why You expect, all things will be introduced in 4.0? I paid also for v2 and remember promise about newsgroup support. I paid for this promise to. I really do not remember, RITLabs officialy promised this, You can read about this in interview with Stefan Tanurkov - 10 January 2000 are You really need this yet? No, I do not need. I work with local mail2news gateway - Hamster. For me Scoring system (like in 40tude - with NFS this is very good feature for discussion lists, emails, newsgroup gateways, antyspam ...) will be enough, but for normal people that want to use newsgroups? Tbird ore OE is answer? Like you can see, things that TB can not do I make with NFS, macros or gateways. But this is not for normal users - it is to difficult, not ergonomic. Here you have what other clients have: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients In this comparison I create myself many thing about TB, new tables and features. There is question: maybe it is better to answer about IMAP in TB - 'Yes, works in 50%' or something like that? All questions with answer - 'Yes, with plugin' after v4 will be No. Why not wait when this two things are ready and then give users v4? because downloading images to HTML messages is much easier and is almost finished, templates affects more parts of program. You can say that for sure html templates will be available in v4 and this will be not next major version? Im not so sure. You have right, I do not know this for sure, but Max confirmed me, HTML templates are in list of planned features for V4 in 2008. Like usenet support. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in afternoon, Paul wrote something like this: Voyager has been a literal life saver for me and many customers who are in parts of the world where it is mandatory to have one's email literally in their pocket to avoid persecution and possible death. DynBat, MobileBat, TheBatch or JavaScript Mobilbat - that was before Voyager and works with full TheBat Pro version. Voyager is only Home version with OTFE password protection. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in afternoon, Paul wrote something like this: In your own words, But this is not for normal users - it is to difficult, not ergonomic. You see this application even one time? Example: is it for you difficult to extract zip archive to folder and then run one bat file and after this open thebat with other then thebat.exe file? Then you can try usenet and use (or even only setup) TheBat with Hamster - maybe you see difference. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in afternoon, Marek wrote something like this: And something about RIT updates: http://fileforum.betanews.com/review/942557075/2/view do You really trust fileforum comments? some of users who rated it with one star did not saw thebat yet... And many that write posts saying true. Rating is not for me important. You can read about this in interview with Stefan Tanurkov - 10 January 2000 Yes, I know this interview and there is nothing about it will be surely implemented and when. OK, so I will wait for plugin or internal implementation. 7 years and we do not have nothing. This is good example for HTM templates - Max confirmed me, HTML templates are in list of planned features for V4 in 2008. LG There is a rumor floating around that TB will include a usenet LG news reader. Is this true? ST I think so. We still have not decided on what it will look like - ST as a plug-in or as a built-in function... -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in afternoon, Krzysztof wrote something like this: So 1. GUI - like in v3 upgrade afaik we can expect huge change in V4, nothing small as themes in V3 OK, but this is still only GUI - maybe big changes but this is still cosmetic thing for me. TB will look nicer. I think you miss the point of what UI is. The way you think about it seems to rather remind skins than GUI rework. The the truth is that GUI is not about the way TB looks, but about the way TB interacts with users. For quite a time I claim that GUI needs to be reworked heavily. There are many advanced features available in TB, but they are hard to use or at least they're not intuitive. Changing this and ensuring that more users will be able to use the features that already exist is a very valid thing to do. But this is still old TB with only little improvements. Engine is still the some. 2. Account wizard - it works now? .dsi files hmmm … It's a nice feature for newcomers. This is something that could make at least some people switch from webmails to proper way of using email. Therefore I support it. I also support this feature, but this is not feature that is so important that we must change TB version or buy license update. 2. HTML pictures I hope we will see it in 4.0 already. Why not wait when this two things are ready and then give users v4? I think this is a question of how long beta cycle we wish to have. RITs could introduce 4.0 betas and make a release 1,5 year later with all the features ready. Or they could divide it into parts and make 3 or 4 releases in between. Of course the licensing policy comes in way -- with more releases on a way, users will have to pay earlier for things that are to come later. In an opposite situation users will have to wait for new features till the day when all of them are ready (all planned features that is). Both ways have advantages and disadvantages. I prefer the way currently chosen, for I strongly suspect I will buy v4 eventually, so I'd prefer to do that sooner rather than later. And this small steps bring us to point: 1. There is no new plugins and old are not developed 2. Big discussion lists and forums, sites slowly dying (tb-l, bat-mail.de.vu, pstb, TheBat! World) - no new users, no new posts, no new news. Tell me why this happen? 3. Account like in OE (example: one Incoming folder for couple Accounts) nice, but I do not expect this. And You can use common filters, do not You? Yes, I know how to cheat this behavior, but this is not 100% OE style. I believe you can set everything so that it works exactly as in OE. No. When you know how to do that please answer for this posts: http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1246 http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=934 http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=169 http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1053 http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=377 http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=35 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in evening, Krzysztof wrote something like this: And this small steps bring us to point: 1. There is no new plugins and old are not developed 2. Big discussion lists and forums, sites slowly dying (tb-l, bat-mail.de.vu, PSTB, TheBat! World) - no new users, no new posts, no new news. What's the connection between making new releases often and the above points? Read fileforum comments. This is only example. Tell me why this happen? I suspect a quite a big number of reasons are involved. Frequency of releases being a lesser one. I'd roughly say: - - company's management being inefficient (this includes PR, community cooperation, project management). - - quality management being down (lack of proper testing, leading to a programme being somewhat uneven -- some versions are stabile, while other are beta-quality. - - unclear rules of setting future goals, unrevealed roadmaps (which brings me the suspicion of non-existent roadmaps), lack of official wishlist with some sort of enduser preference checking. - - lack of vision But this is RITs side. Normal user do not see this. See product and history. You write about next level. Yes, I know how to cheat this behavior, but this is not 100% OE style. I believe you can set everything so that it works exactly as in OE. No. When you know how to do that please answer for this posts: Can you tell exactly which parts of OE style can't be set up in TB using currently existing features? I find it unclear, since... http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1246 http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=934 http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=169 http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1053 http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=377 http://thebat.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=35 ...none of these posts contains a detailed question that could lead to a conclusion that it not true that you can set everything so that it works exactly as in OE. Hence I re-state my assertion: I believe you can set everything so that it works exactly as in OE. hmmm Belive or not but not everything. Once again - see above links. You do this using filters, common folders, color groups. This is too complicated, I agree. But it is possible, hence the engine contains all the required functions. The only problem is on the UI side -- there should exist an automated way to use the currently existing functions in order to allow inexperienced users benefit from those functions. This may of course come beyond the task UI rework as defined by RITLabs for v4, but we don't know that. Another thing I notice after reading the articles you liked above is that people on that forum seem to be quite unhelpful. When you activate account, you must accept rules. One of rule is that you not ask about something that is in manual or you can find in forum archive, tb-l archive and PSTB FAQ - use search option. Each topic starts with a question if it was possible to set TB up in an OE-manner. The answers are short and there are just two of them. Either no, So please support RITs and PSTB forum and only one time answer (you read, you know answer? you not answer - you are quite unhelpful?). Topics are above. There is no possibility to have 5 different Accounts and one folder tree like in OE. You can only cheat but you newer hide 5 accounts. And this answer is in PSTB FAQ, you can find in forum and in tb-l. Perhaps it would be better to instead just explain exactly how to set things up. Once again: there is no such possibility. Over. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in evening, Marek wrote something like this: So 1. GUI - like in v3 upgrade afaik we can expect huge change in V4, nothing small as themes in V3 OK, but this is still only GUI - maybe big changes but this is still cosmetic thing for me. TB will look nicer. 2. Account wizard - it works now? .dsi files hmmm … 3. message labels For me nothing special. I forgot! I can add: gmail aka theba.net. But still for me that is not major version. do You really expect all features in 4.0? Do You expect major changes between 3.99 and 4.00? When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I expect really big changes and privately one little bugfix (regression fix) - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5690. What normal user expect is: 1. HTML templates afaik we can expect them next year in 4.x 2. HTML pictures I hope we will see it in 4.0 already. Why not wait when this two things are ready and then give users v4? 3. Account like in OE (example: one Incoming folder for couple Accounts) nice, but I do not expect this. And You can use common filters, do not You? Yes, I know how to cheat this behavior, but this is not 100% OE style. All wishes from list you can find here: http://thebat.pl/forum/ This is not my wishes. 4. Improved backup and folder/message maintenance (.bin files problems) 5. RSS native support 6. better IMAP 7. better calendar and exchange support afaik all were planned for 4.x, but do not expect them in 4.0. For V4, new Microed with Unicode support is developed, as I expect, it will be introduced in 4.x too. We can not wait? Or RITs can not wait to add really big changes and then go to v4? Major version comes with major improvements/changes. From this list for me (Im moderator on polish TB forum) it is very important number 4. There is very big problem with .bin files. When in normal TB installation we can try to import messages from this files, with OTFE it looks like mission impossible. For me this looks like huge problem, and I really do not want once again answer users to question about .bin files. 8. Linux version I do not think, we will ever see The Bat! under Linux, if will be developed in Delphi. And really do not think, You can do business in this platform, nobody wants to pay for apps, because everything is free. I will be first that pay for The Bat when it will be on this platform. BTW I paid for v2 and v3. Now I will consider to buy v4 in one polish newspaper (Komputer Swiat) that offers TB full license (without update) for 2,5 Euro. List with full versions are here: http://www.ks-ekspert.pl/archiwum/info/pne/index.html -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB Simple MAPI and ActiveSync broken
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! When I install TB Simple MAPI I can not open Active Sync Manager, and use internet connection throgh AS and PPC. There is problem with WCESMgr.exe that cant find ordinal number 23 in MAPI32.dll. German WinXP sp2 AS 4.5 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Simple MAPI and ActiveSync broken
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in evening, Frank wrote something like this: When I install TB Simple MAPI I can not open Active Sync Manager, and use internet connection throgh AS and PPC. There is problem with WCESMgr.exe that cant find ordinal number 23 in MAPI32.dll. German WinXP sp2 AS 4.5 Try START - RUN - FIXMAPI.EXE And old windows mapi is reverted. I can do this mit .dll name changing.TB rename Windows Mapi32.dll to Mapi32TB.dll. This not resolve problem, maybe only temporary when you want to use AS and not want to have TB Simple MAPI installed. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in evening, Marek wrote something like this: do You really expect all features in 4.0? Do You expect major changes between 3.99 and 4.00? When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I expect really big changes and privately one little bugfix (regression fix) - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5690. did You paid for upgrade from 3.0 to 3.0.1, from 3.0.1 to 3.5, from 3.5 from 3.7 etc? And what are major improvements, new major features in this v3 builds? I remember one feature that now not exists. V3 was developed more than 3 years and You paid once only. Why You expect, all things will be introduced in 4.0? I paid also for v2 and remember promise about newsgroup support. I paid for this promise to. What normal user expect is: 1. HTML templates afaik we can expect them next year in 4.x 2. HTML pictures I hope we will see it in 4.0 already. Why not wait when this two things are ready and then give users v4? because downloading images to HTML messages is much easier and is almost finished, templates affects more parts of program. You can say that for sure html templates will be available in v4 and this will be not next major version? Im not so sure. Maybe you understand me wrong (I know my english is bad). When I know myself, I will buy TB even without major improvements, features in v4. I only want that RITs give me something more than cosmetic things. I want macros that works, and not just are red or blue. I want features like smartspace that works with NFS filters that flags messages. 8. Linux version I do not think, we will ever see The Bat! under Linux, if will be developed in Delphi. And really do not think, You can do business in this platform, nobody wants to pay for apps, because everything is free. I will be first that pay for The Bat when it will be on this platform. OK, how much licences can be sold? thousand? ten thousand? This is not enough to rewrite whole code, hire new developers and have two development branches, hire new people for support etc. etc. Like you can se below TB can cost less then 5 USD, so maybe this work is not so expensive? BTW I paid for v2 and v3. Now I will consider to buy v4 in one polish newspaper (Komputer Swiat) that offers TB full license (without update) for 2,5 Euro. List with full versions are here: http://www.ks-ekspert.pl/archiwum/info/pne/index.html hmm, interesting, who subsidizes full price of licence? Ask RITLABS or Komputer Swiat. This version you can order online (delivery to all countries is possible) and use also in Czech - it is normal full licence only without updates. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in evening, Gleason wrote something like this: yes, it will be, You must wait, work in progress release date I'm more interested if features promised for v2 will be available for v4. Or if this is just another milk the cows release. Sorry for being so optimistic about that. Hasn't everyone seen this? Well maybe not, so here it is from the RITLabs website: ... So 1. GUI - like in v3 upgrade 2. Account wizard - it works now? .dsi files hmmm ... ?? 3. message labels For me nothing special. I forgot! I can add: gmail aka theba.net. But still for me that is not major version. What normal user expect is: 1. HTML templates 2. HTML pictures 3. Account like in OE (example: one Incoming folder for couple Accounts) 4. Improved backup and folder/message maintenance (.bin files problems) 5. RSS native support 6. better IMAP 7. better calendar and exchange support 8. Linux version 9. ldap v3 with TLS/SSL What I expect: 1. Bugfixes 2. News and RSS native support 3. HTML tamplates and pictures 4. PocketPC version with synchronization 5. Mouse gestures 6. ACAP implementation for auto-choose best secure connection to server -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in morning, Thomas wrote something like this: Which plugins are you speaking about? Could you please name them, i.e. give the list? Thereareintotal58pluginsi am aware of: http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlinkcid= To this 58 plugins you can add: - JavaScript Macros 0.4 beta 19 - add JavaScript support in templates (example below - attachment list), customizable menu like in screenshot ... - PL-Wtyczka 0.2.2.2 - RSS2POP3.pkierski 0.17 - eXtended Macros Player (eXMP) 0.0.3.67 - NameRus ver 0.4 - MyGate - BlackWhiteList Plugin 1.3 Attachments: ~~~A~~~ tbJSM.png Attachments: a) tbJSM.png Attachments: [1] tbJSM.png -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawskiattachment: tbJSM.png Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in afternoon, Thomas wrote something like this: Thereareintotal58 plugins i am aware of: http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlinkcid= To this 58 plugins you can add: - JavaScript Macros 0.4 beta 19 - add JavaScript support in templates (example below - attachment list), customizable menu like in Can you please give a link? Seams interesting, is it digital signed? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBDEV -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [beta 21] VIP handling corrupt
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in evening, Roelof wrote something like this: SM In new beta is VIP handling corrupt. When I add VIP to contact in SM address book, TB move this contact from group to main address SM book. Drop down list on new message is wrong and address are not SM in groups. I guess you mean when you add somebody to 'favourites', my address book has no VIP setting. I can confirm this behaviour for setting the 'favourite' bit for a contact. It used to be different, because I've got several contacts with the favourite bit set, who're still member of AB groups. Unchecking the favourite bit deletes the group info too. Did you create a entry in bugtrack for this? No. My english is to bad. Please open bugtrack entry and I add my note. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[beta23] View Mode and sorting issue
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Look in attachment 1. Sorting is by message creation but TB sort by incoming. View in attachment 2. When you can confirm please create note in bugtrack. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawskiattachment: 2.pngattachment: 1.png Current beta is 3.99.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Faulty operation of 'Read' filters by 'SmartSpace' shortcut.
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Similar issue with SmartSpace - create filter that park read message (for example when is from [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Filter works when you go to next message through cursors but not work with Smart Space at all. I see this issue on common folders. Maybe on accounts also exists. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[beta 21] VIP handling corrupt
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! In new beta is VIP handling corrupt. When I add VIP to contact in address book, TB move this contact from group to main address book. Drop down list on new message is wrong and address are not in groups. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common folders filter and SmartSpace
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Can someone at least write that SmartSpace and CommonFolders filters with park message operation works? Please, just one comment. This is testers group or not? -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.98.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RSS option
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Sunday morning, Hans wrote something like this: It would be nice to have a RSS option in The Bat!. Maybe an idea for the next version? We have plugins. rss2pop http://ivan.bolhovitinov.googlepages.com/rss2pop rss2pop3 http://www.pkierski.net/rss2pop3.shtml rss2mail http://thebat.pl/download/index.php?itemid=325 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common folders filter and SmartSpace
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Any confirmations? -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Cosmetic
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday morning, Gunivortus wrote something like this: When exiting TB, the small progress window appears. The upper progress line is working fine, the lower one, which should show the overall progress is filled completely at once and stays until the exit. So, no overall progress can be observed. Yes, confirmed. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.98.02.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Common folders filter and SmartSpace
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
In TB I have some filters for common folders that park read message
when that message is reply for my previous message. And now, when you
move to another message through cursor or mouse click, message is
correct parked, but when you use SmartSpace feature message is not
parked.
When someone can confirm this behavior, please create bug report and I
confirm this. My English is to bad to explain authors this bug.
Filter looks like that:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [A24151F2.01C5106F.53998897.512E0AF7]
Name: ReReFQDN
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Thanks and best regards,
Sebastian Murawski
Current beta is 3.98.02.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common folders filter and SmartSpace
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday evening, Vili wrote something like this: In TB I have some filters for common folders that park read message when that message is reply for my previous message. And now, when you move to another message through cursor or mouse click, message is correct parked, but when you use SmartSpace feature message is not parked. When someone can confirm this behavior, please create bug report and I confirm this. My English is to bad to explain authors this bug. This is a good enough description of the bug, so you can report it. Some guys sometimes use strange characters on the bug track to describe their problems, Ritlabs understands them also. OK, I wait for confirmation. I think it easy to test. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.98.02.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.96.10
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday afternoon, Hendrik wrote something like this: Plugin error as reported in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is still occurring. Is there a bugtracking entry for this? Not jet, as I had no confirmation in the mailing list for now. Confirmed here. Also statistics clearing do nothing. After restart you have old statistics. Please create bug entry and I confirm that issue. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.96.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.86.04 ALPHA is available [now Subject is OK]
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! The Bat! 3.86.04 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb38604.rar DATE: 15.11.2006 Not work in OTFE with eToken Info also here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.04 ALPHA is available [now Subject is OK]
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday morning, Marek wrote something like this: Now this is beginning to get really confusing. Is 3.86.04 ALPHA a Beta version with just the name ALPHA or is it actually an Alpha version? unannounced alpha hmmm?? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_e-mail_clientsaction=history (cur) (last) 12:41, 15 November 2006 Maxim Masiutin (Talk | contribs) (The Bat! Beta Version Update) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients#Release_history Unannounced on TBBETA? -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! The Bat! 3.86.04 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb38604.rar DATE: 15.11.2006 Not work in OTFE with eToken Info also here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Customiser
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday morning, Krzysztof wrote something like this: So I started playing with the customizer a little. The feature, although being a nice base, needs further improvements. - tbuser.def should be edited in OTFE mode for example through some internal TB implementation. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Somebody has The Bat! 6 ? Yes, spammers have ;-)
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Sunday evening, Marek wrote something like this: FYI, spammers have The Bat! v6.65.9, so we should ask developers, why we test 3.81.11 only :-) SPAM from yesterday: The Bat! (v9.44.2) CD5BF9353B3B7091 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.81.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
NTLM Authorization bug?
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! When I try to send message and choose SMTP Auth (RFC 2554) method and in pop3 I have turned ON NTLM authentication BatPost send to The Bat! AUTH=CRAM-MD5 AUTH=NTLM methonds and TB choose CRAM-MD5. Why? It is bug? In BatPost in user account I have NTLM authorization type for this user and also in pop3 account in TB. Check out sniffer log: 220-lazik.homeip.net ESMTP service is ready to serve to you (lazik.homeip.net) 220 BatPost v2.20b5 at your service EHLO lazik.homeip.net 250-lazik.homeip.net Mail Daemon is ready 250-DSN 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 250-STARTTLS 250-AUTH LOGIN NTLM 250-AUTH=LOGIN NTLM 250-ETRN 250-ATRN 250 SIZE 4096 AUTH CRAM-MD5 With imap NTLM not work at all. In server log is: E1 CAPABILITY * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 AUTH=CRAM-MD5 AUTH=NTLM UIDPLUS X-SEND NAMESPACE ACL STARTTLS LOGINDISABLED E1 OK CAPABILITY completed B2 Login user pass B2 NO Authentication failed. Method error B3 Login user pass B3 NO Authentication failed. Method error B4 Login user pass B4 NO Authentication failed. Method error -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PGP 9 and TheBat
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Sunday evening, Peter wrote something like this: I suggest to use previous PGP versions, or, even better, GnuPG from www.gnupg.org. GnuPG not support eToken and iKey. :( BTW is in TB implemented support for Certificate Revocation Lists? Not only for internal PGP support but also for S/MIME and SSL certificates. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Hardware token and certyficate import
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! I have some question about hardware tokens and certificates. I know that this list is no strict help group. So sorry when I disturb in BetaTesting. In TB is option to generate certificate/key on hardware token - all data in this case are in token and TB use key on the token when want to sign decrypt message. I have one problem - how ascribe to thebat key that is on token and we don't want to store this key on local drive? This situation happens when you use for example some CA services (like: Thawte) and generate key on token trough your browser. Sorry for my English. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.65.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.65 MSI
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Tuesday evening, Henk wrote something like this: I lost all my view modes and I am using MyGate for my newsgroups and that has gone completely :-( Going back to 3.64.03, backing up everything, installing 3.65, restoring that backup, did not do the trick either :-( Lost my keycombinations (shortcuts) as well. Running OTFE too. Confirmed. OTFE eToken mode. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.65 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
SmarSpace and park message issue
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! I have one filter for common folders that mark message as parked when I read it (exactly when I go to another message). For SmaprtSpace feature this filter don't work. When I change messages trough cursors everything works OK. TB 3.64.01 - OTFE eToken -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TBV and Plugins (AntiSPAM AntiVIRUS)
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Saturday morning, Stuart wrote something like this: HO Personally, i prefer useing Achim's filter with Bayesian only, it HO never given a false positive. And this is the most important HO thing for me. But use on USB stick will probably not be possible. This is why I am trying Regula. The main problem seems to be that it does not learn on the bayes side and keeps matching rules that mark it as spam. Regule learns only Bayes module. When you will have in Rules.dat only: BayesScore 0 I [BAYES] Regula will work only in Bayes mode and every time when you mark message as SPAM plugin will be learned. To really work with this plugin you must read manual (AFAIK only German and Polish version - rules files are in English to) and understand how this all things in Regula works. Is quiet complicated. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski pgpJGIogRHp3c.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TBV and Plugins (AntiSPAM AntiVIRUS)
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Saturday afternoon, Stuart wrote something like this: Regule learns only Bayes module. When you will have in Rules.dat only: BayesScore 0 I [BAYES] Regula will work only in Bayes mode and every time when you mark message as SPAM plugin will be learned. Do you mean it does work if Bayes is turned on? I have it turned on, but it does not seem to work. Yes, Bayes must be turned on and all messages are learned form TB menu (of course only Bayes module). You must restart TB. You can also learn from Regula Manager (RegulaMgr.exe - Services - Train Bayes database...). Messages must be in .eml format. To really work with this plugin you must read manual (AFAIK only German and Polish version - rules files are in English to) and understand how this all things in Regula works. Is quiet complicated. Where is the manual? Online? Maybe babelfish will translate it. Regula folder - Regula.chm (in German language) -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filters and OTFE
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Monday evening, Peter wrote something like this: MM Who did experience a trouble that filters and OTFE work in Password mode MM and don't work with hardware tokens (iKey or eToken)? Me. Me to. The .63 serie is completely unusable here. .63.09 does not recognise my database at all and prompts me whether I want to create a new account or import a previously backuped one. .63.08 DOES recognise my database but ALL filters are disfunctional and it needs 5 MINUTES (!) to import 20 messages for tbbeta, all of them are stored in the INBOX afterwards. (See eMail to 9Val, including log snippet.) In addition sent messages remain in the OUBOX and are flagged as UNSENT, even if they had been sent successfully. Fully confirmed. All this with iKey. With eToken Pro. MM How can we reproduce this? I have not the foggiest idea ;) 3.62.14 works like a charme! Not in my TB. I have problems with new message templates in common folders. Don't recognize %To macro. When common folder template have %To specified and all rest is in Address Book in tbbeta contact when I want to create new message all fields must I manually fill. See attachment - commonfoldernew and contactnew. I have also problem with %Charset Macro - didn't work for us-ascii. For example all tbbeta messages I have in common folder with reply template %BLANK. In Address Book I have reply template for tbbeta contact like in attachment. My win is XP sp2 and like you see message is in win1250 not us-ascii. BTW win1250 is not enabled in encoding list in TB config. For example when I change in template ascii to utf-8 everything is fine. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski%ACCOUNT=S.Murawski - Pf.pl%- %FROM=Sebastian Murawski [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %REPLYTO=Sebastian Murawski [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %TO=%TO=TheBat! Beta List tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com%- %LANGUAGE=AM%- %CHARSET=utf-8%- %KeybLayout(PL)%- %QINCLUDE=subject%- Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! %WRAPJUSTIFY %WRAPPED=%QInclude='qo do mnie EN lists' %_quoText=%QInclude(quot)%- %_wrText=%QINCLUDE='q'%QINCLUDE(wr) %Cursor -- Thanks and best regards, %FromNamE %ACCOUNT=S.Murawski - Pf.pl%- %FROM=Sebastian Murawski [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %REPLYTO=Sebastian Murawski [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %TO=%TO=TheBat! Beta List tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com%- %CHARSET=utf-8%- %LANGUAGE=AM%- %KeybLayout(PL)%- Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! %CURSOR -- Thanks and best regards, %FromName %TO=The Bat Beta List tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com %Cursor=Subject Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.09 and the Outbox Protection Feature
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Sunday afternoon, Peter wrote something like this: MM http://www.RITLabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36309.rar same procedure as every beta ... It asks me whether I want to create a new account or whether I want to restore a previously made backup. No go - as with every .63 beta version. Have you already tried to fix this? Have you tried to reproduce this with iKey 1000 OTFE? Fully confirmed with eToken Pro. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday morning, Fabio wrote something like this: Anyone having the same problem and any suggested solution? Regula: http://www.gaijin.at/tbpregula.php -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) is now available
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday afternoon, 9Val wrote something like this: Which exactly conditions do not work? For example: move message to common folder. Example: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [B02C7510.01C4C5A0.42E5BB40.29166E47] Name: tbbeta Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5CThe\20Bat!\5Ctbbeta IsActive Ignore IsSendQueue endFilter So Recipient contains tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com move to common folder \\\The Bat!\tbbeta -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) is now available
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday afternoon, 9Val wrote something like this: SM So Recipient contains tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com SM move to common folder \\\The Bat!\tbbeta Just tried that filter on your message - it works… Do you use simple The Bat! (I mean without encryption)? No. OTFE eToken (Aladdin eToken Pro 16k) mode, so with encryption. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) is now available
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Wednesday evening, 9Val wrote something like this: Here is a short list of changes: [-] Minor fixes For me not this one: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Filters dosen't work in OTFE eToken mode. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager Price
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Saturday night, Maxim wrote something like this: There were opinions in the list that Voyager is another product to make money. Can you describe differences between Voyager and Professional versions? We know about token issue but maybe something else? BTW for me Voyager without token support i useless. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) is now available
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Wednesday evening, Peter wrote something like this: GMM Sorry, I cannot confirm it. Here (using OTFE) the filters work properly. Strange! My only chance was to go back to 3.62.14. 3.63.05 does not recognise my database and 3.63.06 does not import messages correctly (and needs MINUTES to read 8 messages from the server) 3.62.14 works fine! Fully confirmed. OTFE eToken mode. Filters not working. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Voyager
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday night, Maxim wrote something like this: Please try The Bat! Voyager BETA at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/voyager.zip What's with eToken-OTFE support? Only password will be supported? Can you say something about development TheBat and Voyager - .exe files will be updated like TB in beta cycle? -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.07 is now available
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Saturday evening, 9Val wrote something like this: Hi All, The Bat! 3.62.07 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/intpack.msi Wrong links: 404 - HTTP not found -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday evening, Alexander wrote something like this: Author: Konrad Szkudlarczyk Anyone cares to explain what these filters really do? I don't speak regex. :) I think that you speak German so try to read this: http://www.batboard.net/index.php?showtopic=4974 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday afternoon, Steven wrote something like this: I noticed that Thunderbird has a ice feature that I cannot (but would like to) find in TB: When an HTML email is displayed that contains graphics from EXTERNAL locations (i.e. they were not attached to the email), it shows them with the 'broken image' icon and offers a 'Show Images' button in the message header. http://republika.pl/konrad_sz/tb/files/html350_xmp.txt http://republika.pl/konrad_sz/tb/files/html350_wget.txt Author: Konrad Szkudlarczyk Info in polish: http://republika.pl/konrad_sz/tb/htmlpics.htm To work you need only XMP plugin or in the second version wget and XMP and TB3.50. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.04 BETA
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Tuesday evening, Nick wrote something like this: If this means reply to selected text when replying with HTML to an HTML e-mail, then it only partly works. The selection seems to be truncated at random places. Confirmed. And the themes seemed to have disappeared, at least in my case. Confirmed -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.61.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.6 is now available
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Wednesday evening, Leif wrote something like this: The Bat! 3.51.6 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Getting the attached error. Rolled back to 3.513 Confirmed in OTFE mode. Rolled back to 3.51.5 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.51.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 is now available
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday evening, 9Val wrote something like this: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ [-] Other : Cascading AVs [-] Other : cascading AVs possible fix Not all AVs. From 27-31 I have these same problem. When I start TB (OTFE) put password I have AV like in av1.png and after OK on this cascading AVs like in av1a.png. Attachments: 1) av1.png (4684 Byte, ACDSee 7.0 PNG Image) 2) av1a.png (10502 Byte, ACDSee 7.0 PNG Image) -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski av1.png Description: PNG image av1a.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.30 MSI
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Wednesday afternoon, Maxim wrote something like this: Would you please test 3.5.30 MSI: 27-30 doesn't start. OTFE passwd mode. After password Ihave one AV an after OK cascading AVs. .26 works fine for me. TB tested with and without plugins. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.30
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Sunday evening, Maxim wrote something like this: If the beta .26-.29 didn't start normally, please confirm that it now starts OK. 27-30 doesn't start. OTFE passwd mode. After password i have one AV an after OK cascading AVs. .26 works fine for me. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Language change and message editor
Hallo TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday night, NetVicious wrote something like this: From: CC: BCC: ... headers aren't translated. Message window have also old name in previous language. I think there are worse error than this. So try to send (F2) message after Language change. AV for me and I can this always reproduce. Steps: 1. Open new message (write some words) 2. Change language 3. Turn back to message opened in 1st step 4. Add some words 5. Try to send (F2) 6. AV like in attachment (Put message in inbox works OK) Attachment: 1) av - laguage change.png (9739 Byte, ACDSee 7.0 PNG Image) -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski -- Wyszukiwarka Gooogle w Panorama Firm, kliknij: http://internet.pf.plattachment: av - laguage change.png Current beta is 3.5.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Find messages bug
Hallo TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday night, Stuart wrote something like this: Also I do not see the report you made on Bugtrack. SM I ask for confirmation first and for Bugtrack Report creation by SM another person that know English better than me. ;) I see. I was wondering why you would perform such a search. It's simple. Not all people gives mids in such construction mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] That first reason. Second is that I have my letters also in subfolders (archive: 2-6 months|6-12 months|more than 1 year - alternative message deletion) and want to simple create script to JavaScriptMacros Plugin to perform automatically search also in subfolders and also search mids that have usenet construction (news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Now I can't find only one message but also this with References header. Do you know that if you double click on a correctly formatted mid that it will take you directly to that message. When message isn't on focus folder search will ask you for another folders and will want in this new folders perform search once again. I want to do this automatically because most searched message is in subfolders. I use simply construction: F7,Ctrl+V,2xShift+Tab,n,a,g,Tab,p,a,s,Ctrl+S,Enter -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski -- Wyszukiwarka Gooogle w Panorama Firm, kliknij: http://internet.pf.pl Current beta is 3.5.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Find messages bug
Hallo TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday evening, Stuart wrote something like this: SM I use simply construction: SM F7,Ctrl+V,2xShift+Tab,n,a,g,Tab,p,a,s,Ctrl+S,Enter Not quite sure how this works. OK up to the 2xShift+Tab, but what does ,n,a,g do? In English should be: F7,Ctrl+V,2xShift+Tab,h,e,a,Tab,c,o,n,Ctrl+S,Enter 3 first letters from header and contains -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski -- Wyszukiwarka Gooogle w Panorama Firm, kliknij: http://internet.pf.pl Current beta is 3.5.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.20
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday evening, Maxim wrote something like this: 2. Change the language Do you mean interface language or spell checker dictionary language? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] thread about this bug. Try also use right mouse click or correct from context menu wrong written word after language change. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski -- Wyszukiwarka Gooogle w Panorama Firm, kliknij: http://internet.pf.pl Current beta is 3.5.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Find messages bug
Hallo TheBat Beta List Members!!! F7 and try to find: Header contains Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Its Maxim Masiutin message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3.5.18 Please confirm and add BugTrack report. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski -- Wyszukiwarka Gooogle w Panorama Firm, kliknij: http://internet.pf.pl Current beta is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Language change and message editor
Hallo TheBat Beta List Members!!! Open new email. Change language (I from Polish to English). Go back to message editor. From: CC: BCC: ... headers aren't translated. Message window have also old name in previous language. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski -- Wyszukiwarka Gooogle w Panorama Firm, kliknij: http://internet.pf.pl Current beta is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Find messages bug
Hallo TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday night, Peter wrote something like this: Please confirm and add BugTrack report. Works just fine, when using search in Header or Any part. Weird. Maybe OTFE mode? -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski -- Wyszukiwarka Gooogle w Panorama Firm, kliknij: http://internet.pf.pl Current beta is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Find messages bug
Hallo TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday night, Stuart wrote something like this: Did you search for the full Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] And if so did you get 0 results? Yes This is what I got, but I think its because it only searches the contents of the headers, not the headers themselves. So how to find message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from F7? Regexp? Maybe also doesn't work? If you do a search on just the [EMAIL PROTECTED] part it gives about 7 messages, because more than just the Message-ID contains this, but also the In-Rely To header. And References also, and I want find only one message. Also I do not see the report you made on Bugtrack. I ask for confirmation first and for Bugtrack Report creation by another person that know English better than me. ;) -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski -- Wyszukiwarka Gooogle w Panorama Firm, kliknij: http://internet.pf.pl Current beta is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Columns that move..
Hallo TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Saturday afternoon, MAU wrote something like this: I does affect my folder tree, I verified that before replying. Then we have a bug at hand. Works for you, not for me or Livio. Those are the worst bugs. Try to do like this: |level1 folder tree--- +|level2 subfolder tree--- ++|level3 subfolder tree--- |level1 folder tree--- |level1 folder tree--- +|level2 subfolder tree--- |level1 folder tree--- |level1 folder tree--- Close all tree to level one and then open folder that have level 2 (subfolder). I also confirm this bug. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: How to using Biometric Authentication ?
Hallo TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday afternoon, Maxim wrote something like this: Then, you have to install Dekart BIO API. Where can I get it? On Dekart homepage I can't find. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.5 Return is now available
Hallo tbbeta Members! Someday, and that was in Saturday afternoon, Krzysztof wrote something like this: The Bat! version 3.0.9.5 Return is now available After F6 or menu Tool smartBat I get attached error, and The Bat! takes 100% CUP and freezes. The process must be killed :( Confirmed -- Best regards, Sebastian Murawski The Bat! 3.0.9.5 Return (pre-beta) :beta: z Hamster 2.0.6.0 oraz SpamPal 1.7119 System: Windows XP (NT 5.1 Build 2600 - Dodatek Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
