Re: antivirus plugin with fragmented email

2002-10-28 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Allie, On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:38:28 -0500 your time, you authored this: ACM Since you posted your findings to this list, I thought your p snip ACM I've always replied with TB! as my ... Yeah, if you really say so Allie. :-/ What I've posted I

Re: antivirus plugin with fragmented email

2002-10-28 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Peter, On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:35:54 +0100 your time, you authored this: PP Form my PoV it didn't came out very clearly the 'uncatched' mails PP contained no viruses but 'only exploits', especially that The Bat! ain't PP vulnerable to

Re[2]: antivirus plugin with fragmented email

2002-10-28 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Simon, Allie, others following this important thread. It seems to me that Simon and Allie are basing their positions on two different principles or givens, which are always correct by definition. That's what produces a stalemate, in absolute terms. In relative terms, each of us can decide

Outlook import

2002-10-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
hey gang, I finally got my wife to try TB ! Now, all I need is her OL folders. I was able to import her addressbook. The birthday field was a NO-NO, after the import, when I tried to modify any entry I got an error message about date code invalid. Re-import with no BIRTHDAY field and it is fine.

Re: antivirus plugin with fragmented email

2002-10-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, October 28, 2002, 10:09 AM, you wrote: DH Hello Simon, Allie, others following this important thread. DH It seems to me that Simon and Allie are basing their positions on DH two different principles or givens, which are always correct by DH definition. That's what produces a

Re: Outlook import

2002-10-28 Thread Pete Milne
Replying to your message of Monday, October 28, 2002, 8:17:46 AM: PC who has the latest, best-easiest method to import Outlook folders??? Good luck, I have been trying to get a client over to TB! but it hasn't worked yet. Too many crashes trying to get old messages imported he says. Let us

AB handle

2002-10-28 Thread Joseph N.
Inadvertently, I had two AB entries for the same person. One was under group A, it had a middle initial, and no nickname/handle. The other was under group B [same AB], no middle initial, different email choices, and a handle. I deleted the entry under group B (selecting no when the incredibly

Re: Outlook import

2002-10-28 Thread Tim Musson
Hey Paul, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta7) Personal' was used to write mid:11959072812.20021028101746;pcartwright.com on Monday, October 28, 2002 at 10:17:46 AM. PC who has the latest, best-easiest method to import Outlook PC folders??? Looking for the same thing myself. I know TB has an

Re[2]: antivirus plugin with fragmented email

2002-10-28 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Paul, On Monday, October 28, 2002, 9:30:07 AM, you wrote: PC and a fourth- if you don't keep ANY anti-virus package up-to-date it is PC almost worthless. I have used many PCs where the virus definitions are PC over 1 year old. THEY think they are protected! PC and lets not forget

Re: Outlook import

2002-10-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Paul- Monday, October 28, 2002, 7:17:46 AM, you wrote: PC hey gang, PC I finally got my wife to try TB ! PC Now, all I need is her OL folders. I was able to import her addressbook. PC The birthday field was a NO-NO, after the import, when I tried to modify PC any entry I got an error message

Re: antivirus plugin with fragmented email

2002-10-28 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi all, On Monday, October 28, 2002 10:30 your local time, which was 07:30 my local time, Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote; DH Hello Simon, Allie, others following this important thread. DH It seems to me that Simon and Allie are basing their positions on DH two different principles or givens, which

Re: AB handle

2002-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Joseph, On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:22:13 -0600GMT (28-10-02, 17:22 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: JN I have closed the AB and reopened it, and still cannot add JN the handle. Did you close TB too? Just an idea. -- Groetjes, Roelof

Re[2]: AB handle

2002-10-28 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, October 28, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote in mid:14932526056.20021028182741;krakeel.org: RO Did you close TB too? Just an idea. Roelof, No, but in doing so now, I found the problem: operator error. Although I had clicked no, when TB! asked me whether I want to delete only the items

Re: Outlook import

2002-10-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, October 28, 2002, 11:25 AM, you wrote: PC who has the latest, best-easiest method to import Outlook PC folders??? TM Looking for the same thing myself. I know TB has an option TM (Tools\Import Messages\Mailbox Import Wizard...\Microsoft Outlook), TM but it crashed each time I tried.

Re: antivirus plugin with fragmented email

2002-10-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, October 28, 2002, 11:21 AM, you wrote: DH Hello Paul, DH On Monday, October 28, 2002, 9:30:07 AM, you wrote: PC and a fourth- if you don't keep ANY anti-virus package up-to-date it is PC almost worthless. I have used many PCs where the virus definitions are PC over 1 year old. THEY

RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Joseph N.
This is not intended to start a discussion of HTML. It is not about HTML, nor big bandwidth mailings, nor UCE. It is about simple formatting conventions which go beyond plain text but stop well short of what many of us dislike about HTML email. What, either in terms of technical issues or design

Re: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Pete Milne
Replying to your message of Monday, October 28, 2002, 12:38:35 PM: JN from allowing bullets, italics, underlines, and bold? Isn't that better served by Word or such? Send it as an attached file. That is what I do if I need to send something along them lines. Just my thoughts. -- Pete

Re: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, October 28, 2002, Joseph N. wrote... This is not intended to start a discussion of HTML. It is not about HTML, nor big bandwidth mailings, nor UCE. It is about simple formatting conventions which go beyond plain text but stop well short

Re[2]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, October 28, 2002, Pete Milne wrote in mid:92276533584.20021028124303;milneweb.com: JN from allowing bullets, italics, underlines, and bold? PM Isn't that better served by Word or such? Send it as an attached file. Pete, Sometimes an attached file is fine, and the current design

Re[2]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, October 28, 2002, Jonathan Angliss wrote in mid:19517308906.20021028134354;certiflexdimension.com: JA Would you mean like the enchanced-text/rich text mode? Yes. -- JN Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information:

Re: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Joseph- Monday, October 28, 2002, 11:38:35 AM, you wrote: JN What, either in terms of technical issues or design philosophy, would JN prevent TB! from allowing bullets, italics, underlines, and bold? In JN other words, why not go a little bit toward more functionality and JN more complex

Re: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jonathan, On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:43:54 -0600 GMT (29/10/02, 02:43 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: Would you mean like the enchanced-text/rich text mode? I guess there is nothing stopping RitLabs from creating such a feature, There are many wishes for this. There has been

Re: Outlook import

2002-10-28 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Paul, on Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:59:19 -0500GMT (28.10.02, 18:59 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:16168766531.20021028125919;pcartwright.com : TM What I have heard, is you can export from OL to OE PC not sure i want to mess with OE, but I may fool with it tomorrow... I'll PC check the

Re: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, October 28, 2002, Thomas Fernandez wrote... Would you mean like the enchanced-text/rich text mode? I guess there is nothing stopping RitLabs from creating such a feature, There are many wishes for this. I semi agree... the only use

Re[2]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Joseph N.
Mark, On Monday, October 28, 2002, Mark Wieder wrote in mid:6813457140.20021028121304;ahsoftware.net: MW There are several centuries worth of literature that prove the point MW that not only does text mode not need RTF or HTML formatting, but that MW often simple text can get the point across

Re[2]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, October 28, 2002, Jonathan Angliss wrote in mid:6020249812.20021028143255;certiflexdimension.com: JA I've seen some people specifying fonts that look 'cool' on their JA computer, but just didn't have the same desired affect on mine. I agree. That's one reason to restrict any

Re: Outlook import

2002-10-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, October 28, 2002, 3:28 PM, you wrote: PM I can confirm that importing messages from OE wasn't any problem at all, PM although I don't remember the exact procedure... So if you can transfer PM your Outlook messages to OE, you should be fine. (I have never used PM Outlook, so I don't

Re: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, October 28, 2002, 3:13 PM, you wrote: MW Joseph- MW Monday, October 28, 2002, 11:38:35 AM, you wrote: JN What, either in terms of technical issues or design philosophy, would JN prevent TB! from allowing bullets, italics, underlines, and bold? In JN other words, why not go a little

Re: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread pmf
On Monday, October 28, 2002, Joseph N. wrote: J Well, although that's not really my experience, I don't think there's J any harm in seeing a communication that looks the way the sender J intended. Aside from the philosophical and practical arguments about who should have more over the way things

Re: Outlook import

2002-10-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, October 28, 2002, 4:17 PM, you wrote: PC On Monday, October 28, 2002, 3:28 PM, you wrote: PM I can confirm that importing messages from OE wasn't any problem at all, PM although I don't remember the exact procedure... So if you can transfer PM your Outlook messages to OE, you

Re: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Mark, On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 at 12:13:04[GMT -0800](which was 20:13 where I live) you wrote: MW * I can also even *emphasize* certain words, or quote them. If MW necessary, I can even SHOUT. Yes but, if Joseph's wishes were acceded to, your *emphasize* would actually show as bold font. No

Re[2]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Monday, October 28, 2002, 2:03:29 PM, you wrote: RW Yes but, if Joseph's wishes were acceded to, your *emphasize* would RW actually show as bold font. No colours or anything fancy needed, just RW the capability to have bold, italic etc as my newsreader Ameol already RW does. Ah... so

Re[3]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, October 28, 2002, Mark Wieder wrote in mid:18721360364.20021028142447;ahsoftware.net: MW Ah... so nothing else would be transmitted, but the email client MW would simply interpret the received text if the proper hints were MW present... that's something quite different from RTF.

Re[2]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread myob
Hello Richard, Monday, October 28, 2002, 10:03:29 PM, you wrote: MW * I can also even *emphasize* certain words, or quote them. MW If necessary, I can even SHOUT. RW Yes but, if Joseph's wishes were acceded to, your *emphasize* RW would actually show as bold font. No colours or anything fancy

Re[3]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Joseph- Monday, October 28, 2002, 12:55:14 PM, you wrote: JN There might be some decisions that need to be made, but that doesn't JN turn it into a slipper slope, nor does it have anything to do with JN HTML. Appearance is not the biggest problem with HTML, and I agree JN that HTML is not the

Re[4]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, October 28, 2002, Mark Wieder wrote in mid:17023324829.20021028145731;ahsoftware.net: MW Actually, I think it's exactly this thinking that led M$ MW eventually to the executable attachments in Lookout. Folks MW brainstormed about more and more features they'd like to see in MW email

Re: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Joseph, What I did mean is what, I believe, is generally referred to as enriched text, and you paraphrased it well in the excerpt above. Wether it is called RTF or enriched text I would not use it. But I'm with you. Why not include the option? Specially when TB already includes a Rich

Re[3]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Vishal Nakra
Monday, October 28, 2002, 12:55:14 PM, you wrote: JN There might be some decisions that need to be made, but that doesn't JN turn it into a slipper slope, nor does it have anything to do with JN HTML. Appearance is not the biggest problem with HTML, and I agree JN that HTML is not the way to

Re: Re[2]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Alec Burgess
On Mon, 28-Oct-2002 17:54 [GMT-0500] myob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Richard, Monday, October 28, 2002, 10:03:29 PM, you wrote: * I can also even *emphasize* certain words, or quote them. If necessary, I can even SHOUT. Yes but, if Joseph's wishes were acceded to, your *emphasize*

Re: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Paul Wilson
Monday, 10/28/2002, 5:37 PM Hi Mark, On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, at 12:13:04 [GMT -0800] (which was 12:13 PM where I live) you wrote about: 'RTF' MW There are several centuries worth of literature that prove the point MW that not only does text mode not need RTF or HTML formatting, but that MW often

Re: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:11530922880.20021028164613;qwest.net, Joseph N. [JN] wrote:' JN I don't know if you misunderstood my intent or if I misstated JN the subject. I really should not have mentioned RTF, which is a JN MS format. What I did mean is what, I believe,

Re[2]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, October 28, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote in mid:122307102960.20021028211108;landscreek.net: JN I don't know if you misunderstood my intent or if I misstated JN the subject. I really should not have mentioned RTF, which is a JN MS format. What I did mean is what, I believe, is

Re[4]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Joseph N.
On Monday, October 28, 2002, Alec Burgess wrote in mid:019f01c27eea$cc1b1850$3a5232d1;bur2Kdns: As does *Outlook Express* with /OE-QuoteFix/ ;-) I thought _theBat_ did this too (I'm not using it yet). From this conversation I gather it does *NOT* ? Alec, Correct, TB! cannot compose with

Re[5]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Joseph- Monday, October 28, 2002, 3:14:37 PM, you wrote: JN (I know I really oughta let this slide) Do you really think, I JN mean, inside your head do you really really think, that providing for JN a limited set of universally used typographical conventions is the JN same thing as providing

Re: Outlook import

2002-10-28 Thread Scott McNay
Hi Paul! In message mid:11959072812.20021028101746;pcartwright.com on Monday, October 28, 2002, 9:17:46 AM, you wrote: PC who has the latest, best-easiest method to import Outlook folders??? I just email them to myself; that way I get all the headers, aside from the Received: headers, which

Enriched text

2002-10-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Joseph- Monday, October 28, 2002, 2:46:13 PM, you wrote: JNOn Monday, October 28, 2002, Mark Wieder wrote in JN mid:18721360364.20021028142447;ahsoftware.net: MW Ah... so nothing else would be transmitted, but the email client MW would simply interpret the received text if the proper hints

Re[6]: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Joseph N.
Mark, On Monday, October 28, 2002, Mark Wieder wrote in mid:16338069661.20021028190316;ahsoftware.net: MW You may want just bold and underlining. Someone else may want MW tables. Yet another may want to embed a spreadsheet (I have a MW client who steadfastly refuses to move from Outlook

Re: RTF

2002-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:1659073.20021028203148;qwest.net, Joseph N. [JN] wrote:' JN I wonder if the reason is commercial or technical. That is, has JN HTML become so popular because it offers the sellers of the JN world more billboard space, or is it that there

Re: Outlook import

2002-10-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Paul, On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:17:40 -0500 GMT (29/10/02, 04:17 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: I can confirm that importing messages from OL IS a problem. The mail import wizard crashes after every folder is imported. SO, my sequence for importing mail from OL is: start wizard,