Re: Connection Center

2004-02-23 Thread Allen
2/23/2004, 2:25 AM: ETM said in Connection Center E I am going to bed. Greetings to you both from Virginia USA. Night (or, rather, good morning) from Virginia USA :-) -- Peace, be well J Allen R Day http://protempore.org At 18 our convictions are hills from which we

Re[2]: Connection Center

2004-02-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello ETM, Monday, February 23, 2004, 1:25:40 AM, you wrote: E ... The connection center is working ... Elaine, this thread has helped me, too, because I had forgotten that Options/Preferences/General was the place to choose Always. My CC dialogue window had moved itself to a place on my screen

bug: OTime/ODate for new messages set to current date?

2004-02-23 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL, is this by design or a bug, that %ODATE, %ODATEEN, %ODOW, %ODATESHORT, %OTIME, %OTIMELONG, %OTIMELONGEN are set to current datetime when creating a new message? The help says that these macros are used for replies/forwards and therefor should be empty for new mails.. If this is

bug: hanging connection center on dialup: Dialling forever, when RAS is already dialling

2004-02-23 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL, I use dialup with automatic disconnect. The problem is, when I'm already about to establish a RAS connection outside from TB and the connection centers starts before the computer is connected to the internet service provider the CC dialup status will be Dialling forever (at least

Account address settings

2004-02-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Fellow Listers! I have two accounts set up in The Bat! for two separate e-mail addresses, with different servers. Something is happening with the account I'm subscribed to tbudl in that didn't happen when I first set this second account up in TB! When I click on Reply, my other address

Re: Account address settings

2004-02-23 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mary, On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 08:43:37 -0600GMT (23-2-04, 15:43 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB Does anyone have an idea what setting I need to stop this strange MB Reply behavior from happening? Address book template? -- Groetjes, Roelof

Re: bug: OTime/ODate for new messages set to current date?

2004-02-23 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo dAniel, On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:58:20 +0100GMT (23-2-04, 14:58 +0100, where I live), you wrote: dh The help says that these macros are used for replies/forwards and dh therefor should be empty for new mails.. You might consider it a bug, but maybe it has something to do with the underlying

Re[2]: Account address settings

2004-02-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Roelof! On Monday, February 23, 2004, 8:58 AM, you wrote: MB Does anyone have an idea what setting I need to stop this strange MB Reply behavior from happening? RO Address book template? You figured out the problem precisely! It was the last line of the tbudl Reply template, put there a

Re: TB WINE ..

2004-02-23 Thread Anne
On Tuesday, February 17, 2004, 11:07:12 AM, Terry wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] T All of my data is on a FAT32 partition so that I can access it no T matter what OS I've booted into. I did the same - after figuring out how to enter the path to the FAT32 drive in TB! under Xandros...

Re: bug: OTime/ODate for new messages set to current date?

2004-02-23 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello Roelof, on Mon, 23. Feb 2004 at 16:11:56 +0100 you wrote: R Apart from that, eg it's rather silly to use a macro that's intended R for replies and forwards in a new message template and then start R complaining that it doesn't act as you interpreted the help file R concerning the way way

Re: IMAP settings: what is ROOT folder

2004-02-23 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Monday, February 23, 2004, Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote... What for and what is this Mail managment-Root folder place of setting TB IMAP account ? From my experience on using such terms, it's the folder you want to set as the parent. You can leave this blank. The matter is that IMAP

wish: better OpenPGP secret key support for sign/encrypt (GnuPG)

2004-02-23 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL, I'd like to see better GPG support in thebat. For when signing/encrypting, TB seems to call gpg --sign --default-key fromaddr messagetext That is bad, and fails if you want to send from an address that is not in your keyring. I suggest using a choose secret key button in the

Shared Quick Templates not sharing

2004-02-23 Thread Admin at AK
Hi Unless I'm being particularly dense - if I set up a Quick Template within one account and set it to Share with Other Accounts then I would expect the following behaviour: Type the handle and hit CTRL+SPACE will insert the template no matter which account I am sending from. For me... it

Re: Menu Navigator Keyboard

2004-02-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark, On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:39:01 -0800 GMT (23/02/2004, 06:39 +0700 GMT), Mark Wieder wrote: The Menu Navigator is one of the first things I turned off. Have you actually found something useful buried in there? Yes. There are so many menu items now that I sometimes forget where is

Re: bug: hanging connection center on dialup: Dialling forever, when RAS is already dialling

2004-02-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello dAniel, On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:08:48 +0100 GMT (23/02/2004, 21:08 +0700 GMT), dAniel hAhler wrote: I use dialup with automatic disconnect. The problem is, when I'm already about to establish a RAS connection outside from TB and the connection centers starts before the computer is

Re: Shared Quick Templates not sharing

2004-02-23 Thread MAU
Hello Admin, For me... it doesn't share - will work with the account in which it is set up but not in any of the others. Which version of TB are you using? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.04.4

Re[2]: Shared Quick Templates not sharing

2004-02-23 Thread Marten Gallagher
Hello Admin, For me... it doesn't share - will work with the account in which it is set up but not in any of the others. Which version of TB are you using? 2.04.4 Business -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk

Re: Shared Quick Templates not sharing

2004-02-23 Thread MAU
Hello Marten, For me... it doesn't share - will work with the account in which it is set up but not in any of the others. Which version of TB are you using? 2.04.4 Business All my existing QTs are shared without problem, but as I had not created any new ones since I upgraded to 2.04.4,

Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Mark
Dear Bats Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then a crash). How do I get back to the old version! Aubrey Current version

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Frank J de Bruin
Mark wrote: M Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the M Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then M a crash). I experience the same problem. Frank de Bruin -- The Bat! version: 2.04.4 on Windows XP Current version

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Mark, on Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:23:46 +GMT, you wrote: M Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The M Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the M Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then M a crash). F7 brings up the search window here as supposed, using

Re:Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Mark
Dear Peter I'm on XP. Problem. Would need to restore old version of Bat, but I'm worried about causing problems if new features (views) have been recorded in data files - are they backward comparable? If a fix is going to be posted for this very soon, I can wait. Mark PM Hi Mark, PM on Mon,

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Paddy L
Hello Frank, On Monday, February 23, 2004 at 12:53:46, you wrote: M Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the M Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then M a crash). I experience the same problem. Not here. -- Regards, Paddy L Windows XP pro; TB! 2.04.4

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, February 23, 2004, 3:42 PM, you wrote: FJdB Mark wrote: M Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the M Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then M a crash). FJdB I experience the same problem. I just used F7, searched my recipe folders for chicken and it

Re: Shared Quick Templates not sharing

2004-02-23 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello Admin :), on Mon, 23. Feb 2004 at 18:33:33 + you wrote: A For me... it doesn't share - will work with the account in which it is A set up but not in any of the others. Confirmed.. ctrl-shift-q shows no shared QTs from other accounts. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread ETM
Hello Paul On Monday, February 23, 2004, you wrote I just used F7, searched my recipe folders for chicken and it came back in about 5 seconds with 105 messages. I only searched the body, and only for a one-word search. I have never had luck searching for more than one word, but the search

Re:Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Mark
FJD I experience the same problem. FJD Frank de Bruin M Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the M Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then M a crash). The wierdest thing just happened. The crash on F7 problem suddenly resolved itself. I then noticed that my folder

Re: bug: hanging connection center on dialup: Dialling forever, when RAS is already dialling

2004-02-23 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello Thomas, on Tue, 24. Feb 2004 at 01:46:45 +0700 you wrote: T I had this happen (but didn't try with the current version). I see this as confirmed.. TB should recognize, that the connection is already dialling and wait for the connect. T It may be a Windows problem. Don't know what kind

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Aubrey, On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:23:46 +GMT (23-2-04, 21:23 +0100, where I live), you wrote: M Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The M Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the M Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then M a crash). Confirmed

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mark, On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:07:05 +GMT (23-2-04, 22:07 +0100, where I live), you wrote: M Modes Menu item. I then checked the Help About Box, M and my version number had reverted back to 2.01.3! M What is happening! I had to blink several times. Must be XP's restore function

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread ETM
Must be XP's restore function intervening. I use XP and would have to very specifically call on it. Restore would not happen accidentally without the person knowing. -- Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Chris
Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 23-Feb-2004 3:23:46 PM Crash on Search in 2.04.4 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then a crash). Not confirmed on Windows

Re:Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Mark
M Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The M Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the M Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then M a crash). RO Confirmed here on W98 Dutch. OK, might have gained some possible insight into why the crach on search is

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, February 23, 2004, 3:52 PM, you wrote: M I'm on XP. Problem. M Would need to restore old version of Bat, but I'm M worried about causing problems if new features (views) M have been recorded in data files - are they backward M comparable? If a fix is going to be posted for this M

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Dave Gorman
Hello Mark, Monday, February 23, 2004, 4:22:15 PM, you wrote: OK, might have gained some possible insight into why the crach on search is happening to some folks. There may be a problem with the install routine on 2.04.4. That may or may not be a factor, but for me the crash on search

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread MAU
Hello Mark, Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then a crash). How do I get back to the old version! I had that problem the very first time I upgraded, also from 2.01.3

Re: Menu Navigator Keyboard

2004-02-23 Thread Mark Wieder
Thomas- Monday, February 23, 2004, 10:42:04 AM, you wrote: TF Yes. There are so many menu items now that I sometimes forget where is TF which. The menu navigator is faster for me than guessing and looking TF through all the menues and submenues. Ah. But you do have to remember that there's

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Anne
On Monday, February 23, 2004, 10:34:11 PM, Dave wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] D That may or may not be a factor, but for me the crash on search D started when I upgraded the executable to RC3 (I don't remember D which beta I upgraded from -- I think RC1). Same here Dave - it happened

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread ken green
Mark wrote: There may be a problem with the install routine on 2.04.4. When I installed 2.04.4 over 2.01.3 the installation routine presented a default folder for install, which I assumed to be the current installation folder. However, the default folder presented was c:/program files/TheBat

Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?

2004-02-23 Thread ken green
From the confirmed problems I've been reading about, it seems 2.04.4 isn't any more stable (across multiple users) than the recent betas. What's up? Forgive me for being presumptuous, but shouldn't new problems really be at a minimum in a full release? I can understand some very specific issues

Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?

2004-02-23 Thread Martin Schneider
Hello ken, on Monday, February 23, 2004, 5:53:50 PM, ken green wrote: From the confirmed problems I've been reading about, it seems 2.04.4 isn't any more stable (across multiple users) than the recent betas. No, I can't confirm that. For me the 2.04.4 works very fine (also the Spamfilter

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Martin Schneider
Hello ken, on Monday, February 23, 2004, 5:46:12 PM, ken green wrote: Yikes! Is this true?!!? Isn't this something that should have NEVER, EVER made it past testing? I thought 2.04.4 was an official release? Probably it is true for some users. However for me it NEVER happened so far (and

Re:Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi MAU, Monday, February 23, 2004, 5:48:37 PM, you wrote: MAU I finally downloaded 2.02.3 CE (which is still available from MAU Ritlabs web site), and upgraded to that and then to v2.04.4 and it MAU is working now without problems. After reading this thread, I tried the search feature and The

Re: Shared Quick Templates not sharing

2004-02-23 Thread Allie Martin
Daniel Hahler, [DH] wrote: DH Confirmed.. DH ctrl-shift-q shows no shared QTs from other accounts. ctrlshiftq brings up the QT config panel listing only the quick templates for the currently selected account. This doesn't mean that shared quick templates will not work across accounts. Shared

Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Allie Martin
Mark, [M] wrote: M When I installed 2.04.4 over 2.01.3 the installation routine M presented a default folder for install, which I assumed to be the M current installation folder. However, the default folder presented M was c:/program files/TheBat The 2.01.03 default installation had M been to

Re[2]: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Bill Blinn - Technology Editor
At 7:56 PM on 2/23/2004, Allie Martin typed ... A This is very odd. A TB! normally upgrades an installation, taking the installation path A from the registry so that a prior installation is upgraded. I know A this since for a long time, I had TB! installed in a different A directory from the

Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?

2004-02-23 Thread ken green
Martin Schneider wrote: From the confirmed problems I've been reading about, it seems 2.04.4 isn't any more stable (across multiple users) than the recent betas. No, I can't confirm that. For me the 2.04.4 works very fine I wouldn't expect you could confirm that if you are not having

Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?

2004-02-23 Thread Allie Martin
Ken Green, [KG] wrote: KG Frankly, I'm a bit baffled at the problems *regular* users (not KG beta testers) are experiencing with the upgrade. KG I hope someday I can actually experience The Bat! v2 with an KG acceptable level of problems/glitches... While I do agree, in general, with what

View all affiliated messages?

2004-02-23 Thread mm Meister
Hi Batophiles, Was there once a method to view a group of messages which are related to one another - all together in a pane - such as: Message 1, replies to message 1, who was forwarded message 1, or one of the replies to any of the replies to message 1. Clear as mud? I thought there

Re: View all affiliated messages?

2004-02-23 Thread Allie Martin
Mm Meister, [MM] wrote: MM Was there once a method to view a group of messages which are MM related to one another - all together in a pane - such as: Message MM 1, replies to message 1, who was forwarded message 1, or one of MM the replies to any of the replies to message 1. Clear as mud? MM I

Re: View all affiliated messages?

2004-02-23 Thread Tim
Was there once a method to view a group of messages which are related to one another - all together in a pane - such as: Message 1, replies to message 1, who was forwarded message 1, or one of the replies to any of the replies to message 1. Clear as mud? Are you thinking of

Re[2]: View all affiliated messages?

2004-02-23 Thread mm Meister
Hello Allie, Monday, February 23, 2004, 9:17:46 PM, you wrote: AM Mm Meister, [MM] wrote: MM Was there once a method to view a group of messages which are MM related to one another MM I thought there was something like this, or did I dream it? AM I think you dreamt it. :) :) Probably. AM I

Re: View all affiliated messages?

2004-02-23 Thread Allie Martin
Mm Meister, [MM] wrote: MM Do you think it would be a subject for a feature request? Sure. I'd back you up on it. Just be sure to send the Bugtraq URL for the request. So many entries to wade through. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com

Re[2]: View all affiliated messages?

2004-02-23 Thread mm Meister
Hello Tim, Monday, February 23, 2004, 9:28:38 PM, you wrote: Was there once a method to view a group of messages which are related to one another - all together in a pane - T Are you thinking of Alt-Click on the Subject in the message list -- gives T you all messages with that subject

Re: View all affiliated messages?

2004-02-23 Thread Allie Martin
Mm Meister, [MM] wrote: MM My keyboard may be non-standard. I use a Toshiba Satellite laptop. MM The Alt-Click does change the display, showing only the parent MM message in question, but does not show the forwarded messages or MM reply. This method will work only if you store your replies and

Re[2]: View all affiliated messages?

2004-02-23 Thread mm Meister
Hello Allie, Monday, February 23, 2004, 10:04:39 PM, you wrote: AM Mm Meister, [MM] wrote: MM The Alt-Click does change the display, showing only the parent MM message in question, but does not show the forwarded messages or MM reply. AM This method will work only if you store your replies and

Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?

2004-02-23 Thread ken green
Allie Martin wrote: While I do agree, in general, with what you're saying, and my past messages on TBBETA will reflect this, there are not many applications where you'll not read users having problems with applications, and great ones at that. Allie... I think you are too nice! ;) True, there

Re[2]: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 11:22:15 AM, Mark wrote: M When I installed 2.04.4 over 2.01.3 the installation M routine presented a default folder for install, which M I assumed to be the current installation folder. M However, the default folder presented was M c:/program files/TheBat M The

Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?

2004-02-23 Thread Allie Martin
Ken Green, [KG] wrote: KG Allie... I think you are too nice! ;) I don't. KG I belong to a number of lists and/or forums directly related to KG the software solutions I use, and it is true that users experience KG problems on all of them. Exactly. KG But that does not mean I (or anyone else)

IMAP account: backup and restore.

2004-02-23 Thread Alexander A. Gomanyuk
Hello Batmans! One of the weakest place of IMAP approach from my viewpoint is probability to lose remote message base. In fact we have no direct access to files of some host with IMAP server. Well... TB2 has a backup|restore tools... That CAN backup IMAP folder (in fact it's local folders FULLY

Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?

2004-02-23 Thread Doug Weller
Hi Martin, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 12:08:24 AM, you wrote: No, I can't confirm that. For me the 2.04.4 works very fine (also the Spamfilter BayesIt which is included in that distribution. I can't get it to kick in. I'm not sure what I've done wrong, tried to follow the instructions.

Re: Folder View Modes

2004-02-23 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Anne, Monday, February 23, 2004, 9:41:52 AM, Anne wrote: A Can someone please explain how these wretched things are supposed A to work before I give up and go back to an earlier version in A despair?! I would search the messages to see if this has been A covered before... but my Search

Re: Folder View Modes

2004-02-23 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Greg, Monday, February 23, 2004, 9:59:33 AM, Greg Strong wrote: GS | dependent). From TB main window when View | Global View Mode | *none* is ^ No

Wishlist: Allow attchments button on left of header pane

2004-02-23 Thread MAU
Hello all, Attachments pane can be placed top/bottom or right/left of the message pane, but when hidden to button it is placed on the right (far right) of the header pane. It would be much more visible if it could be placed on the left, like in this composition:

Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?

2004-02-23 Thread ken green
quoting Allie Martin: KG Allie... I think you are too nice! ;) A I don't. That was mostly in jest, but after reading your points about complaining vs. indicating where a problem is, I feel we may be at risk of sinking in semantics. KG But that does not mean I (or anyone else) should not