Re: PGP advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Nick! On Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 3:07:40 AM you wrote: Freeware or Payware? If you want to use it in a non-business environment stick to freeware. PGP is available in both flavours and in versions 6.5.8 and 7.0.4. What are your security needs? Do you currently have a Firewall? If not, be advised that PGP 7.0.4 has a very good rules-based Firewall along with an IDS (Intrusion Detection System), but they are only available in the payware version. AFAIK, the NAI 7.0.x version has only minor changes concerning security: the firewall is one. For NAI, PGPDisk is only available in the paid version, if they did not change it again. 6.5.8ckt also uses algorithms recently added to NAI 7.0.x. For compatibility reasons you are not advised to use them. One should (for now) stick to RSA and DH/DSS, not necessarily in that order. Good choice of Mail Client BTW. ;o) At this moment, there is no PGP Plugin for any of the 7.x versions, freeware or payware. However, from what I've read, there is a current problem with the PGP Plugin (which *had* worked nicely with both NAI and the CKT builds of PGP) surfacing in the latest Beta's. I see you are using Beta 7. :o( No problem for 6.5.8ckt in beta 7 and 9. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/9 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Life is like a sewer: What you get out of it, depends on what you put into it! (Tom Lehrer) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOuFI1vTo1oA8g8dLEQIJxwCgiD45czCcKO/z6VvEa7uAyolggIQAoIpQ uD1wHSzJ5MNWcPo6mU+hlRJ+ =B5fv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello azrael! On Friday, April 20, 2001 at 11:16:47 PM you wrote: Clicking didn't produce an arrow but "move to next unread" accomplished the job. What I was getting at was the sort option. In the preview window (Or view folder, doesn't matter) you see all you (threaded) messages with columns denoting valuable information. Which column you see depends on your choice (View/Columns). Normally you will find (and need) among else the columns "Created" and "Received". To show the most recent messages at the top you change the sorting order of either one of those columns. One way is to click on the column's heading, the other one is by going to the menu View/Sort by/Creation Time *and* checking Descending Order. Now you will have the most recent messages at the top with the obvious downside that you follow the threads in the wrong order - getting answers before the question. I'd thought my searchable archive was the TBUDL folder itself. I suppose you suggest a text file because of size somehow. Could you be more exact why that wouldn't be okay? I love the search aspect. No, I didn't suggest a text file because of size (AFAIR size doesn't matter, at least with TB!). It was a suggestion of tidying up. I am not a great archiver myself, most e-mails are deleted at once, sometimes they stay for a few days. An exception are my sceptic's newsletter by Michael Shermer and Robert Park's What's New?. With an exported text file you won't have to worry about scrolling to much since your TBUDL folder would (on a weekly basis) only contain around 300 messages; on a daily basis you would have around 50 to 60. As for searching, the search functions of text editors and word processors are quite capable. there may even be strategies to enhance searching for a specific message. BTW, you know that the messages are more or less instantly archived by Marck? - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/7 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C I never think of the future. It comes soon enough. (Albert Einstein) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOuE/rPTo1oA8g8dLEQJjhQCfdqkWY7EucbuQkveE37KsPRJ6Q7oAoPQk EE35GR+941yS3wTQGmA9dMKX =rOlj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Digest (04/20/2001 10:40) Special Issue (#2001-998)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello azrael! On Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 2:43:05 AM you wrote: On Friday, April 20, 2001, at 8:34:59 PM, Chema Berian thoughtfully wrote: CB Well, they are both gone :D Chema; I love it. : D . Friday night and we're emailing about e-mail. : ( ./michael Still looks as if anything is at the beginning of the template; your replies have a lot of empty space at the top (see above between my date line and yours). - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/9 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C One thing about the past. It's likely to last. (Ogden Nash) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOuFFevTo1oA8g8dLEQI3HgCffXpNb++hshrLWE1TLZ3qhNWSnvgAoLuv QjPyF1UOxFw1LBeQG19UBHYH =7VVe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP advice
Hallo Shauna, On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:39:36 -0600 GMT (21/04/2001, 10:39 +0800 GMT), Shauna Scott wrote: SS (I'm actually only using the beta on the office computer, the home SS computer is still on 1.51). Funny; for me it's the other way round: no betas in the office. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Auf einem Superman-Kostuem fuer Kinder: "Das Tragen dieses Kleidungsstuecks ermoeglicht es nicht, zu fliegen". Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/9 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 5:06:52 AM, Dierk Haasis thoughtfully wrote: DH What I was getting at was the sort option. In the preview window (Or DH view folder, doesn't matter) you see all you (threaded) messages with DH columns denoting valuable information. Which column you see depends on DH your choice (View/Columns). DH Normally you will find (and need) among else the DH columns "Created" and DH "Received". To show the most recent messages at the DH top you change the DH sorting order of either one of those columns. One DH way is to click on DH the column's heading, the other one is by going to DH the menu View/Sort DH by/Creation Time *and* checking Descending Order. DH Now you will have the most recent messages at the DH top with the obvious DH downside that you follow the threads in the wrong DH order - getting DH answers before the question. Thank you. Clicking on the header worked nicely. Allie has explained "parking" to me but I'm curious about Flagging and Colour Groups. With an exported text file you won't have to worry about scrolling to much since your TBUDL folder would (on a weekly basis) only contain around 300 messages; on a daily basis you would have around 50 to 60. I have two subfolders under my TBUDL folder. I'll experiment to learn what feels and works best. BTW, you know that the messages are more or less instantly archived by Marck? No, that's news. Archived and available I presume? Dierk, you strike me as a no nonsense orderly person. Could you explain why the cursor jumps a character to the left? It feels like shooting a weapon with it's sights set wrong. ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Digest (04/20/2001 10:40) Special Issue (#2001-998)
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 5:31:39 AM, Dierk Haasis thoughtfully wrote: DH Still looks as if anything is at the beginning of the template; your DH replies have a lot of empty space at the top (see above between my DH date line and yours). Dierk, I don't doubt it but I'd suggest you folks suggest the cure with your diagnosis. I really am the naif in these waters and while I see my end of a message it tells me little about how it's perceived by TBUDL. I've never touched code before if indeed %% is code. Nick was kind enough to furnish some settings earlier. More help of that sort will be most appreciated. I warn you all. I'm a left brained artist with an Underwood MAR/REL key made into an earring in one ear. I'm not given to playing under the hood of software but very anxious to conform to reasonable group norms. I consider myself both a supplicant and guest here at this point. Please feel free and encouraged to offer pointers and suggestions. I truly know nothing. your pupil, ./michael who seems to have lost his sig line -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello azrael! On Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 1:45:37 PM you wrote: Thank you. Clicking on the header worked nicely. Allie has explained "parking" to me but I'm curious about Flagging and Colour Groups. Basically they are two different ways to get your attention. Combined with filtering (you can use both in filters) you can set up some powerful filters (so much for style). Personally I use Flags some time, Colour Groups very, very seldom. I tend to just Mark as Unread to set my attention to a message for some time. This way I see that there is something interesting in a closed folder. Hmmm, maybe it would be a good idea to add a feature that one can see if a message is flagged or colour grouped in a folder ...?! BTW, you know that the messages are more or less instantly archived by Marck? No, that's news. Archived and available I presume? Have a look at the foot of your messages, there you'll find the URL. Dierk, you strike me as a no nonsense orderly person. Thanx, especially good to me since a girl friend just left me on my birthday last week telling me I am a nonsense person. Could you explain why the cursor jumps a character to the left? Could you explain that a bit? Didn't come across it, yet. The only thing I could hint at in the moment is the %CURSOR macro. It is used in templates to set a position for the cursor when you compose a message. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/9 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C The graveyards are full of people who rushed in bravely but unwisely. (Terry Pratchett) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOuFuHfTo1oA8g8dLEQKrlQCcCFDnvSCxC2FtutWSufU/vcD46jkAn04m 7lVS6+RW8PdMOjCw7rmdvZc3 =eIUm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:45:37 -0400, azrael contributed this to our collective wisdom: --snip-- a Thank you. Clicking on the header worked nicely. Allie has explained a "parking" to me but I'm curious about Flagging and Colour Groups. Flagging is just a way of marking the message for whatever reason you may wish to. I use flagging to Mark messages which I need to reply to. Others may use the flagging for other reasons. It's really up to you what you use it for. Note also that you may adjust the flagged status of messages using filters, or you can filter messages based on their flagged status. Colour groups is what you use to give messages in your message list different colours. It's through this configuration that you can change your message list font. In the TB! main window, go to Options/'Message List Colours'. A configuration panel will appear. Through the font button you can define the message list font and size to use. You'll see the Generic colour group listed. If you select this group and hit the 'Edit' button, you can adjust the colour of messages listed in the message list when they're read vs when they're unread. You can also create new colour groups and assign them to messages by right clicking the message in the message list and in the popup menu going to Colour Group/*pick your colour*. Experiment away and enjoy. Again, you can assign colour groups to messages while filtering. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/9 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuF/ilfJ62ArBxfiEQKrUgCgq6IpaLYQu3uj8QUkX1fV3VDKYmEAoMy3 CgAAnMDjnOTCshjvFfpyUPZB =w9gh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Blank lines at the top of a message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello azrael! On Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 2:04:54 PM you wrote: Dierk, I don't doubt it but I'd suggest you folks suggest the cure with your diagnosis. OK, for the processing of the macros (specifically those that do not position anything, like %SIGNCOMPLETE) it is irrelevant where they are put, i.e. the %SINGLERE does work regardless if you put it at the top or bottom of your template. The glitch is, put at the top it will result in a blank line. I think it will also generate one at the bottom, *but there you can't see it* because afterwards is nothing to show it. That's why I - who has made the same mistake out of a logical process when I started with TB! - now advise to put in such macros at the bottom. My greeting is right in the first line, so no blank lines will result. Concerning your sig: When it is gone now, you may have changed something in your template or are using the wrong template. BTW, I am not a programmer or software engineer but also of the "creative" brood. And I can assure you that TB! looks at the beginning much more intimidating than it is. especially templates are easily understood in a few weeks (or days, according to the time you spend with TB!). - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/9 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C The graveyards are full of people who rushed in bravely but unwisely. (Terry Pratchett) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOuFw3vTo1oA8g8dLEQK98gCZAWoDCh1pmVD2nAbETSzMHLO9G6kAn3LP Nqn7zZxKuKamy9z8uyn9kSl5 =CKSU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:25:16 +0200, Dierk graced us with these comments: DH Personally I use Flags some time, Colour Groups very, very seldom. If you use the Ticker Virtual folder where all unread messages across all folders are together, then colour groups can be extremely helpful. I assign different colours to messages from discussion lists as opposed to messages from particular individuals as opposed to messages from miscellaneous sources. I can easily pick up messages from particular individuals in a long list of messages from many folders and read those first. When any message is read, it reverts to it's usual black status. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/9 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuGAy1fJ62ArBxfiEQIhUwCfQ3IgXBN/TtGGvaez3GeSyRTqlGgAoNLj meANe+LQu4cgJmLBuwp3G1NS =dKQz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[6]: Norton antivirus and the bat
DC My Norton configuration box lists several specific e-mail DC programs (OE, Outlook, and Netscape Messenger), and DC "Manually configured email client." I have checked the DC latter. No luck. As for the user line, that's my username, DC no? a My pop3 line had been mail.dtsnia.net. As per Marck's a instructions I altered it to azrael/mail.dtsnia.net. Your pop3 line should read Pop3.norton.antivirus Your username line should read azrael/mail.dtnsia.net That would be the propper configuration . . . j. -- Created by The_Bat! Version: 1.52 Beta/9 in Windows 98, build -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 8:44:59 AM, A Curtis Martin thoughtfully wrote: DH Personally I use Flags some time, Colour Groups very, very seldom. ACM If you use the Ticker Virtual folder where all ACM unread messages across all ACM folders are together, then colour groups can be ACM extremely helpful. I ACM assign different colours to messages from discussion ACM lists as opposed to ACM messages from particular individuals as opposed to ACM messages from ACM miscellaneous sources. I can easily pick up messages ACM from particular ACM individuals in a long list of messages from many ACM folders and read those ACM first. When any message is read, it reverts to it's ACM usual black status. I edited a colour group attempting to point it at TBUDL. All I accomplished was losing your first message and coloring your second. Sometimes there are_too many_buttons. On the other hand I reestablished ny sig line. (just noted it's gone again) sigh ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP advice
Hello Thomas, Friday, April 20, 2001, 8:58:43 PM, you wrote: SS (I'm actually only using the beta on the office computer, the home SS computer is still on 1.51). T Funny; for me it's the other way round: no betas in the office. ;-) That's the joy of being the one who makes the rules for computer use. Actually, I normally do it the other way around too, but my office computer is the laptop, and I was sitting bored in a hotel room when the last group of betas started coming out. And I wanted to test them on W2K since I'm going to upgrade the home computer from NT as soon as I find both the time and the courage. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.51 on Windows NT 4.0 SP6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Folder question
Hello Dierk, Saturday, April 21, 2001, 6:25:16 AM, you wrote: DH Personally I use Flags some time, Colour Groups very, very seldom. I DH tend to just Mark as Unread to set my attention to a message for some DH time. This way I see that there is something interesting in a closed DH folder. DH Hmmm, maybe it would be a good idea to add a feature that one can see DH if a message is flagged or colour grouped in a folder ...?! That's a suggestion I've been meaning to make for some time. I have dozens of folders and it would be a huge help if I could a mark a message for follow-up and have some sort of indicator on the folder icon so I don't have to open them all to see if I've forgotten to deal with one. I know, I could move them into an "Action" folder or something, but I would greatly prefer to leave them where they belong and be able to tell at a glance that there's something in that folder I have to deal with. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.51 on Windows NT 4.0 SP6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Norton antivirus and the bat Re: Digest (04/20/2001 21:08) Special Issue (#2001-1000)
Hi Russ Moore, On the Friday, April 20, 2001, U wrote: RM What would have been a better way to do this? A question: Are headers present in a digest mode? Maybe is possible using regex and templates to insert Message-ID and few other filed into your reply... Or maybe something using selecting whole message and copying to clipboard and then using regex... Can you mail me a few complete messages (not a whole digesst :) just to see how it looks like... You could also ask a question on this on TB TECh... Its sleepy, anyway... -- Till the next time, all the best... ANT-ilic -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP advice
Hello Nick, Friday, April 20, 2001, 10:31:46 PM, you wrote: I see we're practically neighbours, at least compared to many of the others on this list (I'm in Edmonton). NA Hey... What do you think about those Oilers!! :o) Number 1, of course! (I'm not the rabid hockey fan I used to be, but at this time of year the old feelings still stir up a bit.) -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 8:25:16 AM, Dierk Haasis thoughtfully wrote: DH Basically they are two different ways to get your attention. Combined DH with filtering (you can use both in filters) you can set up some DH powerful filters (so much for style). DH Personally I use Flags some time, Colour Groups DH very, very seldom. I DH tend to just Mark as Unread to set my attention to a DH message for some DH time. This way I see that there is something DH interesting in a closed DH folder. DH Hmmm, maybe it would be a good idea to add a feature DH that one can see DH if a message is flagged or colour grouped in a DH folder ...?! BTW, you know that the messages are more or less instantly archived by DH Marck? No, that's news. Archived and available I presume? DH Have a look at the foot of your messages, there DH you'll find the URL. Dierk, you strike me as a no nonsense orderly person. DH Thanx, especially good to me since a girl friend DH just left me on my DH birthday last week telling me I am a nonsense person. Could you explain why the cursor jumps a character to the left? DH Could you explain that a bit? Didn't come across it, DH yet. The only DH thing I could hint at in the moment is the %CURSOR DH macro. It is used DH in templates to set a position for the cursor when DH you compose a DH message. Is there a facility for an archival search in Marck's trove? I seem to remember somesuch but I'm not too alert this morning. DH Thanx, especially good to me since a girl friend DH just left me on my DH birthday last week telling me I am a nonsense person The lass lacked class. Perhaps nonsense translated to "not adequately trainable" according to her control needs. It usually does. I turn another year this week but lack anyone to dump me. My last date needed her lithium adjusted. Very bright and interesting but not no one to make plans with. Happy B-Day Dierk. : ) I'll need to get that cursor adjusted. It's sneaky. ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Digest (04/20/2001 01:01) Special Issue (#2001-997)
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 10:45:10 AM, Jan Rifkinson thoughtfully wrote: JR I understand that you rcv the digest that changing the subject JR breaks the threading, but entering a meaningful subject (unlike JR Digest.) would be better than nothing IMO. JR Thank you for considering this alternative. Jan; Sorry I missed this. I've switched to normal mode from digest mode. ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[7]: Norton antivirus and the bat
Hello j., Saturday, April 21, 2001, 9:01:48 AM, you wrote: jard Your pop3 line should read Pop3.norton.antivirus jard Your username line should read azrael/mail.dtnsia.net I think you're confusing posts from two different persons. The configuration I tried, which hasn't worked, was: Mail Server:pop3.norton.antivirus User: dcohen23/pop-server.nyc.rr.com -- Regards, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 95 OSR2 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 8:37:00 AM, Dierk Haasis thoughtfully wrote: DH OK, for the processing of the macros (specifically those that do not DH position anything, like %SIGNCOMPLETE) it is irrelevant where they are DH put, i.e. the %SINGLERE does work regardless if you put it at the top DH or bottom of your template. DH The glitch is, put at the top it will result in a DH blank line. I think DH it will also generate one at the bottom, *but there DH you can't see it* DH because afterwards is nothing to show it. DH That's why I - who has made the same mistake out of DH a logical process DH when I started with TB! - now advise to put in such DH macros at the DH bottom. DH My greeting is right in the first line, so no blank DH lines will result. DH Concerning your sig: When it is gone now, you may DH have changed DH something in your template or are using the wrong DH template. DH BTW, I am not a programmer or software engineer but DH also of the DH "creative" brood. And I can assure you that TB! DH looks at the beginning DH much more intimidating than it is. especially DH templates are easily DH understood in a few weeks (or days, according to the DH time you spend DH with TB!). It seems today won't be a very productive day for Bat-Mods. I've messed up everything I've touched thus far. On %ODATE, at %OTIMELONG, %OFROMNAME wrote: %WRAPPED="%QUOTES" %CURSOR %SINGLERE The above seems correct as per your description. Please advise me if you see a tweak I'm missing. I believe my reply template is the correct one but I'm noticing that a change in one set of properties seems to sometime bollix up another set. I fear the decongestants are affecting my judgements. Nice to hear I have left-brained company here. : ) There is something beautifully creative about assembling a complex personalized tool. ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Norton antivirus and the bat
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 9:01:48 AM, j. allen r. day thoughtfully wrote: jard Your pop3 line should read Pop3.norton.antivirus jard Your username line should read azrael/mail.dtnsia.net jard That would be the propper configuration . . . Pardon. I misspoke. My settings are just as you indicate. ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[8]: Norton antivirus and the bat
jard Your pop3 line should read Pop3.norton.antivirus Your jard username line should read azrael/mail.dtnsia.net DC I think you're confusing posts from two different persons. The DC configuration I tried, which hasn't worked, was: DC Mail Server:pop3.norton.antivirus DC User: dcohen23/pop-server.nyc.rr.com Sorry about that, then . . . Which version of NAV? 2001 has a feature that sends little notes to the mail client so that it won't time out when trying to get the mail- is this enabled? (or available in past versions?) -- it could be that you are timing out? -- Created by The_Bat! Version: 1.52 Beta/9 in Windows 98, build -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello A! On Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 2:44:59 PM you wrote: If you use the Ticker Virtual folder where all unread messages across all folders are together, then colour groups can be extremely helpful. Sounds nice, but since my MT still got stuck after one round, I can't use the MT. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/9 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Wenn man arbeitet, hat man keine Zeit, Geld zu verdienen. (Polnisch-jdisches Sprichwort) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOuGMWvTo1oA8g8dLEQI1uQCfaAv10/cogykC+4LU+7GY6YbsL0YAoMiA emMeDHYnumMUhWhYuwA1SeEx =kl7Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello azrael! On Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 4:22:13 PM you wrote: On %ODATE, at %OTIMELONG, %OFROMNAME wrote: %WRAPPED="%QUOTES" %CURSOR %SINGLERE I can't see something leading to the blank lines, but I can see where your sig is. There is none defined. Here is my suggestion: - -Begin template--- Hello %OFromFName! On %ODateEn at %OTimeLongEn you wrote: %Quotes %Cursor - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat %THEBATVERSION %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER%WINDOWSCSDVERSION %WRAPPED='%COOKIE="E:\Online\Bat\Sentenzen.txt"' %LANGUAGE="BR" %SINGLERE - End template--- It' my own for TBUDL. You see the signature is defined in the template (notice the sig delimiter). The two lines after my PGP mailto denote what I use as software (see the TBUDL communique). Then I define the file to look for tag lines in, the spell checker's language definition and the macro to use normal "RE:". As indicated by my separating lines above and below there is no blank space at the top or bottom of my reply template. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/9 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Love is the answer ... (John Lennon) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOuGPGvTo1oA8g8dLEQKgMwCgmo/Z69sLfEFiSOwx9VU/2WIZMjkAoOwY qJHsIgbUIpTTdh5vZQotQex9 =bAdE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello azrael! On Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 3:19:49 PM you wrote: The lass lacked class. Unfortunately not really, only from time to time ... Perhaps nonsense translated to "not adequately trainable" according to her control needs. It usually does. Isn't it funny that people *are* much more alike than different ... I turn another year this week but lack anyone to dump me. My last date needed her lithium adjusted. Very bright and interesting but not no one to make plans with. I'd be happier if I could say the same, my friends tell me I'm still looking through pink glasses. Happy B-Day Dierk. : ) Thanks, same to you! I'll need to get that cursor adjusted. It's sneaky. I'm still out of guesses, could you tell us more about this behaviour. Could it be a prob with your mouse driver? - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/9 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Only the strong survive. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOuGRRPTo1oA8g8dLEQIBHwCghcYjpsr3O/qVOI6nELj7m8VehJ4AoNtE mA15Oz/kkWpUvvWdgJ8zee30 =u+Zw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Blank lines at the top of a message
Hello azrael, Saturday, April 21, 2001, 4:22:13 PM, you wrote: a I believe my reply template is the correct one but I'm a noticing that a change in one set of properties seems a to sometime bollix up another set. I fear the a decongestants are affecting my judgements. I am not quite sure that the template you sited was actually used in producing that answer. I would have thought that template would have made one line between the greetings and the quotes, but there is two. It can be confusing (and powerful) that there are several different templates on different places. Address book templates are evaluated first. Do you have an entry for TBUDL in your address book? Check if you have activated a separate template for it. (Right click, properties, Reply, check if use separate template box is ticked). If the addressee is member of a Address Book Group, and this group have its own templates the same way, then these templates are used. You can have separate templates for each folder. If you have no Address Book templates, then these are used. You have made a TBUDL folder. Check if you have made a separate reply template here. If so, this is used. Only if none of these templates have been made, is the generic reply template for the account used. -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! - suggestions
Sunday, April 15, 2001, 5:09:03 PM, Nick Andriash wrote: ACM Some of the editors great formatting routines such as the ACM reformatting of quoted material will lead to this sort of ACM limitation. NA Sorry I'm coming in late on this thread, but could you refresh my memory NA on what sort of limitations Allie was talking about? The formatting routines involved in reformatting quoted material, include having the ability to dynamically remove and re-insert the necessary quote-levels at the beginning of each line while reformatting, ie. the initials and -sign(s), or just the -sign(s) in the case of non-TB! quoted material. NA Just for clarification, a soft return is one where the line NA automatically wraps, and a hard return is where the User actually NA hits the "Enter" key, is that correct? What you are proposing is NA that TB! not use hard returns where soft returns would normally NA go? No, the problem I've run into, is that when auto-format is turned on, a return is only honored when you hit it twice in a row. This makes it, for example, impossible to create lists of short-items with one item on each line, unless you insert a blank line between them. Typing the first space on a new line now causes the cursor to return to one space after the last character of the previous line, simply because there is room there. AFAIK, the editor in TB! makes no difference between a return at the end of a line which was inserted by the formatter, and a return that was entered by the user. NA If TB!'s Editor was to do that, and realising that PGP wraps/signs NA a message *before* the MUA would... in your example... replace the NA soft returns with hard returns, it would have to be such that NA there was absolutely no difference in the two messages... not even NA one character... otherwise the PGP signature would be broken. Do NA you feel that condition would be met if TB! were to make those NA changes after the User hit the "Send" button? OK, I have to admit that I'm unfamiliar with the order of actions happening when I hit the send button, and therefore was unaware that PGP is called before TB! would replace these characters. I'm suggesting that the editor would be made to make a difference between returns resulting from the auto-format and auto-wrap functions, and the ones entered by the user, in such a way that it would become possible to create short-lists and if necessary edit the signature, without the auto-format concatening lines together that were intended as separate lines in the first place. It would need to do this only for the duration of message editing. One might even argue that TB! could store the message in this way (including soft returns) unless the message is to be signed and/or encrypted, so future editing would result in the same situation. It was argued that one would want to make the message in such a way that it comes up identically on the recipients screen, but is my belief that this is only necessary for lines that were user-terminated by a hard return anyway, and is much less important for flowing paragraphs. One problem would however still remain: unless the original text of the message being replied to were to arrive in 'flowing paragraphs' as well (which causes other problems such as having to wrap the message at a predefined width or at the edge of the window in order to avoid horizontal scrolling), there is no way for the reformatter to know where to separate two paragraphs that were not separated by a blank line. NA Again I am presuming you were referring to the quirkiness of the NA TB! Editor's auto-format feature, and that a re-make of the Editor NA such that it would allow for soft returns would eliminate such NA quirkiness? Correct. -- Maurice ICQ: 15724776 WWW: http://www.kiap.net/ Thawte Web of Trust Notary, see http://www.thawte.com/ +--+ | Schrijf je in voor / Register for EuroBiCon One! | | 22-24 June 2001 Rotterdam, The Netherlands | | Website: http://www.intbiconf.org/ | +--+ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Norton antivirus and the bat
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 10:42:50 AM, j. allen r. day thoughtfully wrote: jard Which version of NAV? 2001 has a feature that sends little notes to jard the mail client so that it won't time out when trying to get the jard mail- is this enabled? (or available in past versions?) -- it could jard be that you are timing out? "j"; I'm running 2001 on W2K. Where are these little notes. I'm not convinced I have NAV properly enabled. ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 10:46:01 AM, Dierk Haasis thoughtfully wrote: DH I can't see something leading to the blank lines, but I can see where DH your sig is. There is none defined. Under Accounts, Properties, Templates, Reply both the %FromFName and %FromAddress remain listed. DH Here is my suggestion: DH - -Begin template--- DH Hello %OFromFName! DH On %ODateEn at %OTimeLongEn you wrote: DH %Quotes DH %Cursor Sorry Dierk. I don't understand the suggestion. It's likely me, not you. I'm still in a fog. ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Norton antivirus and the bat
jard Which version of NAV? 2001 has a feature that sends little jard notes to the mail client so that it won't time out when jard trying to get the mail- is this enabled? (or available in jard past versions?) -- it could be that you are timing out? a "j"; aI'm running 2001 on W2K. Where are these little notes. I'm anot convinced I have NAV properly enabled. a ./michael In NAV - If you open the options Internet E-mail Protection advanced - make sure that 'enable Manual configuration' is checked, and also that "protect against timeouts. . ." is checked . . . j. -- Created by The_Bat! Version: 1.52 Beta/10 in Windows 98, build -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 10:55:15 AM, Dierk Haasis thoughtfully wrote: DH Isn't it funny that people *are* much more alike than different ... I turn another year this week but lack anyone to dump me. My last date needed her lithium adjusted. Very bright and interesting but not no one to make plans with. DH I'd be happier if I could say the same, my friends DH tell me I'm still DH looking through pink glasses. Happy B-Day Dierk. : ) DH Thanks, same to you! I'll need to get that cursor adjusted. It's sneaky. DH I'm still out of guesses, could you tell us more DH about this behaviour. DH Could it be a prob with your mouse driver? People *globally* are more alike than different. The web may sort out some ignorance given time. "pink glasses" but aware of it beats always seeing the glass half empty IMHO. I don't think it's the mouse drive affecting the cursor. The Bat is the only software showing this behavior. Were I to attempt to place my cursor after the last letter of most words the cursor jumps 1 character left.(but not always?) I suspect some cursor control is not set correctly although it could be mouse driver + Bat settings. ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 11:22:58 AM, Ottar Grimstad thoughtfully wrote: OG Only if none of these templates have been made, is the generic reply OG template for the account used. Hello %OFromFName, %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you kindly wrote: %Quotes %Cursor -- Best regards, %FromFNamemailto:%FromAddr This is the template I found my TBUDL folder using. ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Norton antivirus and the bat
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 12:01:53 PM, j. allen r. day thoughtfully wrote: jard In NAV - If you open the options Internet E-mail Protection jard advanced - make sure that 'enable Manual configuration' is jard checked, and also that "protect against timeouts. . ." is jard checked . . . "j"; I'm all set then. Both were checked. Thanks. ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Blank lines at the top of a message
Hello azrael, Saturday, April 21, 2001, 6:20:56 PM, you wrote: a This is the template I found my TBUDL folder using. This template looks like the stadard template created by The Bat! If you have not made specific folder templates, then you see the account templates when you look at Folder properties. -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
Hello azrael! On Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 5:57:38 PM you wrote: Under Accounts, Properties, Templates, Reply both the %FromFName and %FromAddress remain listed. Here you got me totally wrong. What I meant was, TB! does not use the usual extra signature definition like let's say Agent or OE does. You have to put in your signature into the templates. Maybe we mean something different by "signature". I mean the part you will find at the end of this message starting with "-- ", next line being my name. My own signature is complicated because I also use PGP signing, which denotes something completely different (it's like real signature only not by hand and ink but electronically). To see what I mean I won't PGP-sign this message. Sorry Dierk. I don't understand the suggestion. It's likely me, not you. I'm still in a fog. Just compare my template with yours, I explained the lines (some of them) at the end of the mail. It may help you in understanding templates. BTW, how come you have so much indentation for your text? -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/10 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C History would be an excellent thing if only it were true. (Leo Tolstoi) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello azrael! On Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 6:09:15 PM you wrote: I don't think it's the mouse drive affecting the cursor. The Bat is the only software showing this behavior. Were I to attempt to place my cursor after the last letter of most words the cursor jumps 1 character left.(but not always?) I have never seen this behaviour. TB! uses the free caret positioning, meaning wherever you put your cursor, you can start writing (a concept lately adopted in part by MS Word and other word processors). As for testing purposes I just changed my message editor setup to "Auto-format", "Auto-wrap" and "Justify on Auto-format". the only I normally use is "Auto-wrap". Now, a bit testing, position the cursor with mouse, with keyboard, by arrow ... no, nothing. Sorry, but the cursor does no such thing here. Ah, but now I have it (hopefully). seems nothing more than bad position with the mouse. I think RITLabs uses a relatively big tolerance range for the mouse click in the editor window. That would have to be answered by one of the software engineers or even RITLabs themselves. Hope I could help here. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/10 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Life is like a sewer: What you get out of it, depends on what you put into it! (Tom Lehrer) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOuGx0/To1oA8g8dLEQJCyACZAap1QV2L/Ktq04Wks/DT7Xmoq0wAoOt5 YkA6zRgTGfdp4vYyD3ILp0IL =lXlA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 1:04:06 PM, Dierk Haasis thoughtfully wrote: DH Here you got me totally wrong. DH What I meant was, TB! does not use the usual extra DH signature DH definition like let's say Agent or OE does. You have DH to put in your DH signature into the templates. Using Compuserve rather than IE, OE or Agent I have little to no experience with these entities. DH Maybe we mean something different by "signature". I DH mean the part you DH will find at the end of this message starting with DH "-- ", next line DH being my name. I took sig to mean :regards, azrael and my accompanying address. DH My own signature is complicated because I also use DH PGP signing, which DH denotes something completely different (it's like DH real signature only DH not by hand and ink but electronically). To see what DH I mean I won't DH PGP-sign this message. This was what I received; Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys That's pretty much what I thought a sig was as opposed to a sig file which I think usually means a corporate identifier or a personal quotation. Sorry Dierk. I don't understand the suggestion. It's likely me, not you. I'm still in a fog. DH Just compare my template with yours, I explained the DH lines (some of DH them) at the end of the mail. It may help you in DH understanding DH templates. DH BTW, how come you have so much indentation for your text? Probably because an auto indent button I thought might be a good move was not such a good move. There are simply too many settings here for one as untutored as I to be trusted with experimenting. I fully expect to need to nuke this install of The Bat and start afresh. Before I do I need to learn enough not to screw up that install. I appreciate your patience but think we don't have a common set of references. The templates seem all the more confusing now that I realize each folder can have it's own reply template. While that makes sense, it complicates the concepts. ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 1:13:57 PM, Dierk Haasis thoughtfully wrote: DH Sorry, but the cursor does no such thing here. Ah, but now I have it DH (hopefully). seems nothing more than bad position with the mouse. I DH think RITLabs uses a relatively big tolerance range for the mouse DH click in the editor window. That would have to be answered by one of DH the software engineers or even RITLabs themselves. I'm adapting now that I know to expect it. Does the excessive indentation mess up my messaging to the point of being troublesome? ./michael "Love to eat them mousies, Mousies what I love to eat. Bite they little heads off, Nibble on they tiny feet. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
NAV does NOT delete viruses in TB temp files.
Norton AV does NOT seem to delete viruses that it finds in temp files created by TB. NAV SAYS they are deleted, but they are not. Be careful. ztrader -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Blank lines at the top of a message
Hello azrael, Saturday, April 21, 2001, 7:39:45 PM, you wrote: a I appreciate your patience but think we don't have a common set of a references. The templates seem all the more confusing now that I a realize each folder can have it's own reply template. While that a makes sense, it complicates the concepts. Yes it does complicate things. But you have ticked Use specific template for replies in your address book for this list, and then it is this template we are talking about now, and for the time beeing you can forget both the account templates and the folder templates. Check the Reply template in the address book entry for this list. Check that the text starts on the very first line. Add the following to the bottom of the template: "-- Best regards, %FromFNamemailto:%FromAddr" There should be a space after the two hyphens And I think you should have got your signature back -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:39:45 -0400, azrael graced us with these comments: a There are simply too many settings here for one as untutored as I to be a trusted with experimenting. I fully expect to need to nuke this install a of The Bat and start afresh. Before I do I need to learn enough not to a screw up that install. Why would you need to nuke the installation? I doubt very much that you'd have to do that. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/10 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuHKS1fJ62ArBxfiEQJIfACfTOzy3CuyZUX2Nt0qi+LRxKmD0nsAn1jw 5JAofQQTgpdOjTD0SBXXuhnG =vOf9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello azrael! On Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 7:47:25 PM you wrote: Does the excessive indentation mess up my messaging to the point of being troublesome? Depends on the tolerance of the reader. It takes up much room uselessly and is harder to read. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/10 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Es ist viel einfacher, Kritik zu ben, als etwas anzuerkennen. (Benjamin Disraeli) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOuHI8/To1oA8g8dLEQL0bgCfQuLLI4a4AVthT4+mJTD0P2rHa8IAoOYp wjI5TJqRJRjKKnzWY+WyBqQO =u0am -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Folder question
Hello azrael, Saturday, April 21, 2001, 7:47:25 PM, you wrote: a I'm adapting now that I know to expect it. Does the excessive a indentation mess up my messaging to the point of being a troublesome? No - it does not. And in this message it was OK. The editor indents to the position where you start to write your first words. If the insertion point is to far to the right, just use the left arrow key to position it wher you want it to be, and start to write. -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Folder question
Saturday, April 21, 2001, 12:47:25 PM, you wrote: On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 1:13:57 PM, Dierk Haasis thoughtfully wrote: DH Sorry, but the cursor does no such thing here. Ah, but now I have it DH (hopefully). seems nothing more than bad position with the mouse. I DH think RITLabs uses a relatively big tolerance range for the mouse DH click in the editor window. That would have to be answered by one of DH the software engineers or even RITLabs themselves. I'm adapting now that I know to expect it. Does the excessive indentation mess up my messaging to the point of being troublesome? ./michael I find much more troublesome the four blank lines at the top of each of your messages. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On 19-04-2001 at 13:53, A Curtis Martin kindly wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:01:38 +0200, Sir wrote these words of wisdom: SJ Where can I find Lucida Console and Lucida Sans Typ? As far as I know these fonts are free but I don't know where to find them so I uploaded them for you. You can get them here: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=FTJRGLRI9210689 When I try to follow the "dowload this file to your computer" link, I get an error message: "This link expired or no longer exists." - K - -- She's selfish and cruel as only the weak can be - because cruelty is all she has to keep her safe. - Kathryn Harrison: The Kiss -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
On 21-04-2001 at 18:09, azrael kindly wrote: azreal experiences cursor problems] I don't think it's the mouse drive affecting the cursor. The Bat is the only software showing this behavior. Were I to attempt to place my cursor after the last letter of most words the cursor jumps 1 character left.(but not always?) I suspect some cursor control is not set correctly although it could be mouse driver + Bat settings. Are you referring to your text getting indented more with each new paragraph? I suspect it is the "smart tabs" option or the "auto-indent" option set in the Editor Preferences (under Options). If you have any of these switched on, you might just have found the solution. - K - -- If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country. - EM Forster: Two Cheers for Democracy -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 1:57:22 PM, Ottar Grimstad thoughtfully wrote: OG Check the Reply template in the address book entry for this list. OG Check that the text starts on the very first line. OG Add the following to the bottom of the template: OG "-- OG Best regards, OG %FromFNamemailto:%FromAddr" OG There should be a space after the two hyphens OG And I think you should have got your signature back Voila! (sort of) Your post put the hyphens above the 'Best regards, line but it seemed in mentioning a space after you wished it all on the same line. Except for an unnecessary quotation mark it looks fine here. There is the small matter of it not having an address but I need the practice of cleaning it up. g What symbols are necessary for this line? Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 I tightened everything vertically. Should I tighten horizontally as well? I appreciate your kind help. ./michael "- - Best regards, azrael mailto: -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Keeping messages on the server
Hello there, Since I download my e-mail from several locations, I have all my mail clients set to keep the messages in the server. One of the clients (The Bat! at home) is supposed to delete them after one day, since that's time enough for all other clients to catch up (the intention is to get all of my mail from all the clients). I have, then, set The Bat! to 'leave messages on server' and 'keep messages for 1 day'. However, I think I'm doing something wrong here, because the messages are apparently not getting deleted. I made a manual check of the contents of the server, and I see several messages that are 2 days old or more. Have I set The Bat! properly? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Santiago.- -- Tango MP3's : http://www.crosswinds.net/~cimadevilla/ "Chaque hommes a deux nations, et l'une des miennes c'est la France" (Benjamin Franklin) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:00:38 +0200, Karin thoughtfully wrote the following: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=FTJRGLRI9210689 KS When I try to follow the "dowload this file to your KS computer" link, I get an error message: KS "This link expired or no longer exists." Try this one: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=ALNCQAFO0673121 I just created it. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/10 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuHvnlfJ62ArBxfiEQKpXgCfXhLJbLwN5GV4bhiP4w5ZM7in5SsAnjY8 Dj+MhDEsCbyAWKU+Kz+XlP2o =SiEx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Blank lines at the top of a message
Hello azrael, Saturday, April 21, 2001, 10:32:01 PM, you wrote: a Your post put the hyphens above the 'Best regards, line but it a seemed in mentioning a space after you wished it all on the same a line. a Except for an unnecessary quotation mark it looks fine here. There is a the small matter of it not having an address but I need the practice of a cleaning it up. g I just put in those hyphens so the editor should not think it was my own signature. Sorry, I should have told that. Just remove the hyphens. -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 1:58:29 PM, A Curtis Martin thoughtfully wrote: ACM Why would you need to nuke the installation? I doubt very much that ACM you'd have to do that. My experience setting up my first LAN required several scorched earth installs of W2K before I was password free. - - Best regards, azrael mailto:@dtsnia.net -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ottar, On 21 April 2001 at 22:41:44 +0200 (which was 21:41 where I live) Ottar Grimstad wrote to azrael and made these points: a Except for an unnecessary quotation mark it looks fine here. There is a the small matter of it not having an address but I need the practice of a cleaning it up. g OG I just put in those hyphens so the editor should not think it was my OG own signature. Sorry, I should have told that. Just remove the OG hyphens. Better yet, the exact description of the "cut mark" for a signature is newlinedashdashspacenewline. I cannot show you this because I sign my messages with PGP. PGP adds and extra dashspace at the fron of any line beginning with dashes. I put mine *before* my name because there is no need for that to be quoted at the end of a reply which bears it at the top and in the address already. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.52 Beta/10/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOuHy3TnkJKuSnc2gEQJuJwCg50j5eNp0YKrHl6VE7ni4Fb7I75YAni+5 OJHnRp7IhnzUNkjgY3jyqrnW =Bh/P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 2:52:49 PM, Dierk Haasis thoughtfully wrote: DH Depends on the tolerance of the reader. It takes up much room DH uselessly and is harder to read. Bummer! You'll notice azrael has disappeared from the regards line. I'd reset it twice. I set Latin 1 as the character default but it resets itself.I'd guess it's my settings since I see no sign of corruption on the machine. -- Best regards,mailto:@dtsnia.net -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 2:56:44 PM, Ottar Grimstad thoughtfully wrote: OG No - it does not. And in this message it was OK. OG The editor indents to the position where you start to OG write your OG first words. If the insertion point is to far to the OG right, just use OG the left arrow key to position it wher you want it to be, OG and start OG to write. I'm butt up against the left side. - - Best regards, mailto:@dtsnia.net ./michael -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 4:21:18 PM, Karin Spaink thoughtfully wrote: KS Are you referring to your text getting indented more with each new KS paragraph? I suspect it is the "smart tabs" option or the KS "auto-indent" option set in the Editor Preferences (under Options). If KS you have any of these switched on, you might just have found the KS solution. Thank you; it was checked. hope to hear confirmation of an improvement. - - Best regards, ./michael mailto:@dtsnia.net -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 4:41:44 PM, Ottar Grimstad thoughtfully wrote: OG I just put in those hyphens so the editor should not think it was my OG own signature. Sorry, I should have told that. Just remove the OG hyphens. I like them. I just wish I could get azrael back. Perhaps I'll feed it ./michael and see if it approves. - - Best regards, ./michael mailto:@dtsnia.net -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Norton antivirus and the bat
Hello j., Saturday, April 21, 2001, 12:01:53 PM, you wrote: jard In NAV - If you open the options Internet E-mail Protection jard advanced - make sure that 'enable Manual configuration' is jard checked, and also that "protect against timeouts. . ." is jard checked . . . I'm using Norton 2000, and both options are checked (although in my version "enable Manual configuration" is under "E-mail Protection" rather than "Advanced." I also reinstalled Norton, thinking that might be the problem, and have done everything else I could think of. I'm about ready to pack it in and forget about Norton protection with TB! Somehow with the settings I've used I can't connect to the server, and when the POP3 server is set at "127.0.0.1" (per the Norton Help file), I do connect to the server, but no messages are downloaded. Thanks anyway. -- Regards, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 95 OSR2 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 4:51:41 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone thoughtfully wrote: MDP Better yet, the exact description of the "cut mark" for a signature MDP is newlinedashdashspacenewline. Thought I'd try that approach to perhaps recapture azrael. - - Best regards,- - mailto:@dtsnia.net It likes hyphens. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Blank lines at the top of a message
Hello Ottar, Saturday, April 21, 2001, 10:41:44 PM, you wrote: OG I just put in those hyphens so the editor should not think it OG was my own signature. Sorry, I should have told that. Just OG remove the hyphens. Sorry, I meant quotation marks. The english sometimes does not come out right (and I guess you do not read norwegian). -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: PGP advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 P.S. Am I correct in assuming that, when I verify my previous message, the signature status comes up bad because I made a change to the message after signing it? Best regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott Vice President - Finance Administration Rocky Mountain Skiing Inc. Using The Bat! version 1.52 Beta/10 on Windows 2000 SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBOuINsyv4/MA2WmGQEQIYtwCgvjbvhWQD9R9L8YlH6v/sfjdoKiMAoJiR W7SIBxYnFP4lfFYigG8EldPv =E5NV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, April 22, 2001 at 00:36 (my local time), Shauna Scott wrote: SS So, as you can see, instead of doing the work I should be doing, I've SS downloaded and installed PGP 6.5.8ckt build 05. The next trick is to SS get it to work with The Bat. I'm sorry not to be able to help with your question. But I'm getting a bad sig result: *** PGP Signature Status: bad *** Signer: Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Invalid) *** Signed: 22.04.01 01:35:37 *** Verified: 22.04.01 01:06:52 *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** Cheers Peter - -- PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication iQA/AwUBOuIFLgM2UgbhB3TOEQLxrwCg+751m8wcBvr1M9Qr2kgCxn+NRZ4AnjHG Ah/HWVY7nyvo9WFk0aQtU85T =HBTO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, April 22, 2001 at 00:46 (my local time), Shauna Scott wrote: SS Am I correct in assuming that, when I verify my previous message, the SS signature status comes up bad because I made a change to the message SS after signing it? Hi Shauna, that's what PGP signing is for. All alterations made by whom ever _after_ signing the message will produce a bad signature, because it is not exactly the signed message. Cheers Peter - -- PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication iQA/AwUBOuIGigM2UgbhB3TOEQLwCQCgmScUs5yijdSY77bJYZeR+kHvwaIAoMQh 7CvNTdCbO11z0q168iJB0OJF =VBzv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Auto-wraping of quoted text on reply ?
On 4/21/2001 1:37:37 AM, on the subject Auto-wraping of quoted text on reply ? A Curtis Martin said: ACM The %Wrapped macro is still very useful because it may be used ACM to wrap introductions, cookies and other single paragraphs. Wrapping cookies? This sounds very interesting! How can it be done? Can it be done only with %COOKIES, or can it be done with cookies from text file? Can 'center formating' also be specified? Dejan -- -- Message written at 11:17 PM Email Client The Bat 1.51 -- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Peter, Saturday, April 21, 2001, 19.09.48, you wrote: PM I'm sorry not to be able to help with your question. But I'm getting a bad PM sig result: PM *** PGP Signature Status: bad Shauna stated earlier that the text was changed after the message was signed, that would make the signature bad. - -- Cheers, ~Chris PGP DH/DSS 0x3C3D49B3 PGP RSA 0x535D3933 ICQ 113641590 TB! 1.52 Beta/9 Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 AMD K6-2 400 320MBRAM You might be an Engineer if: If you don't even know where the cover to your personal computer is -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQEVAwUBOuIUyLpIRaxTXTkzAQFFnQf9FSQzIqyiT2ZlvYh5RBEnM/xM9YW3wEyk KrM4ZXGSpNVJyl7GAykldWkUVdi0No5zaXPodCkSStn1MHHx4+k52tIo1EDN0PRU t7+TaU09kkOwpkN6h3BkiFpmWfqxFAGygjh15NmPO3RCIuQ+uxOFmGFosm0Tq8yA GICPaIDSA3gXTji+HuMbW038HRYxH720qsOZ//A5WoVFYGYQ2Iah12zEedpV34j6 n6/pbKO/ftXIDhaEGVDjjWhaU/SVHhzXJw7q0XZWRy7X+Vi4onfmbGJY2Gm47BJ6 SFtLnxh88qjVgyEb9AjQWyxeO54y0Mq9MckkuMrK2DgzSNN5AaijHA== =XDuH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: PGP advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Shauna, Saturday, April 21, 2001, 3:36:26 PM, you wrote: SS -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- SS Hash: SHA1 SS Hello All SS So, as you can see, instead of doing the work I should be doing, I've SS downloaded and installed PGP 6.5.8ckt build 05. The next trick is to SS get it to work with The Bat. SS If I look under Tools-OpenPGP-Choose OpenPGP Version, the only SS choices available are Internal and PGP Command Line, neither of SS which appears to be what I want. Is there something else I have to do SS to make PGP 6.0.x/6.5.x Plugin available? SS Best regards SS Shauna Download the PGP dll's from ritlabs and install them. - -- Best regards, George mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** *Thawte authorized WOT Notary * ICQ: 122492 * ** I'm an incorrigible punster, so don't corrige me! Finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQEVAwUBOuIWsDYFY6kvWSqxAQGPZwf/akafq67D6vC5GRCqz0KRleWQ8aUIhH1R LE0vI7jq9GBsEM9J05r1yxO9hJrKvUeV1Sf71xa7UpG1Lf8ogXXEgJPZ/55Bxdpb t3MQ+1i8SQCQSd+PP7IJQg4fPMo9e9zyM5zE4DdRAK9WERLhjcaYp4PdBMv2lQoy 3vJk9gA1QxD6vnDN3Pr29GSHPgnrDv7rnA1WXKWtufxGbva6zNoojRMZMLSxTKEd uTx4Va91RsBON3lK/LVEHEBNnASpqVksfa3dGRXL8LcZKcd/3LLIKezg//VIlVS0 eFislof82G5DZbn7jmreI/wdbXSnkmul3giBueJzZYjfzv+3O5kWdg== =IZdK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, On 2001-04-21, Peter Meyns wrote: SS Am I correct in assuming that, when I verify my previous message, the SS signature status comes up bad because I made a change to the message SS after signing it? PM Hi Shauna, PM that's what PGP signing is for. All alterations made by whom ever _after_ PM signing the message will produce a bad signature, because it is not PM exactly the signed message. That's what I figured, but, of course, I didn't think of it until after I hit send the first time. Thanks. Best Regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.52 Beta/10 on Windows 2000, SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 05 http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBOuIWWiv4/MA2WmGQEQIZRQCfZ0d+46mPC31cr2RTEHYmsqR2qxoAoIkV vgcM8uCGEeG94QbGPvQYrx5w =I5E+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: PGP advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, On 2001-04-21, George F Schoelles wrote: GFS Download the PGP dll's from ritlabs and install them. That did it - thanks George. Best Regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.52 Beta/10 on Windows 2000, SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOuIY9Sv4/MA2WmGQEQKDKwCdGRSxJnHDjpTCuQgjPAmg1WEh7a4AoK/p eh6+TXnmgMV/M34d8W8U5+XO =39/R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Keeping messages on the server
On 21-04-2001 at 22:30, Santiago Cimadevilla kindly wrote: I have, then, set The Bat! to 'leave messages on server' and 'keep messages for 1 day'. However, I think I'm doing something wrong here, because the messages are apparently not getting deleted. I made a manual check of the contents of the server, and I see several messages that are 2 days old or more. TB has an oddity about counting days on server. Not only doesn't it count today's messeages (as indeed it shouldn't), it also will only delete a whole day's mail in one go when it is that date's turn. You should rather think of the X days as the amount of days in between today and the oldest not-yet deleted mails. I have set my TB to leave messages on server for two days; thus, I'll not only find all of today's messages on the server (April 22th), but also April 21, April 20 (as is to be expected), but *also* April 19 because that day's cycle has not yet fully passed - but it will, at 00:00 tonight. - K - -- The feeling you had when you first played these old computer games as a ten year old down in the basement during the summer, back in the days that you knew it all and while your friends were hanging around at the pool you'd be saving the galaxy! - Menso on HfH, 1999-10-16 Oh, eh, thanks for saving the galaxy, by the way. You did a great job, Menso.- Marcel on HfH, 1999-10-16 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP advice
On 22-04-2001 at 00:36, Shauna Scott kindly wrote: So, as you can see, instead of doing the work I should be doing, I've downloaded and installed PGP 6.5.8ckt build 05. The next trick is to get it to work with The Bat. If I look under Tools-OpenPGP-Choose OpenPGP Version, the only choices available are Internal and PGP Command Line, neither of which appears to be what I want. Is there something else I have to do to make PGP 6.0.x/6.5.x Plugin available? You have downloaded the TB PGP plugin, I assume? It is available from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html You need to unzip the files, and put batpgp60.dll and/or batpgp65.dll in your TB program directory. If you now check Tools -- PGP -- Choose Version, you can tick the PGP 6.0/6.5 option. - K - -- Another complication is that the subconscious mind is always changin'. Like an encyclopaedia that keeps puttin' out a whole new edition every day. - Haruki Murakami: The Hard-Boiled Wonderland -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, April 22, 2001 at 01:25 (my local time), Shauna Scott wrote: ... SS That's what I figured, but, of course, I didn't think of it until SS after I hit send the first time. SS Thanks. You're welcome. *** PGP Signature Status: good *** Signer: Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Invalid) *** Signed: 22.04.01 02:23:05 *** Verified: 22.04.01 01:40:17 If you have more questions regarding PGP in particular you might like to join this list too: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found it to be at least as friendly as TBUDL. :o)) Cheers Peter - -- PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication iQA/AwUBOuIN9AM2UgbhB3TOEQL8rgCfTa3dsQtf47uQbcDctBoTY5O8ZCMAmwUR t5OBccTyCL+0NGvhFbgtoS+T =pqge -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Wrapping cookies
On 21-04-2001 at 23:22, Sir Jinx! kindly wrote: A Curtis Martin said: ACM The %Wrapped macro is still very useful because it may be used ACM to wrap introductions, cookies and other single paragraphs. Wrapping cookies? This sounds very interesting! How can it be done? %WRAPPED='%COOKIE=C:\directory\TheBat\cookies.txt' Can it be done only with %COOKIES, or can it be done with cookies from text file? See above ;-) Can 'center formating' also be specified? Wrap only wraps long lines, it doesn't justify or center. - K - -- Problems are only opportunities in work clothes. - Henry Kaiser -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Auto-wraping of quoted text on reply ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:22:42 +0200, Sir Jinx thoughtfully wrote the following: SJ Wrapping cookies? This sounds very interesting! How can it be done? SJ Can it be done only with %COOKIES, or can it be done with cookies SJ from text file? It can be done with cookies from anywhere. If the cookie comes from a text file the macro is : %Wrapped=%Cookie=path\cookiefile or %Wrapped='%Cookie=path\cookiefile' This will result in long cookies being wrapped and you no longer have to use the line break '\n' to manually break up the cookie line. SJ Can 'center formating' also be specified? I don't think so. I only see justification documented through the %Wrapjustify macro. - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/10 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuIgyVfJ62ArBxfiEQIQVwCeL1cM/huI7xdtL9XfR/LdMFJqI4sAoMe6 GAKVhkTGDyxeGndTne6zPt7k =y1ZP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 6:42:14 PM, Ottar Grimstad thoughtfully wrote: OG You see that I just write out all personal information in full without OG using macros. It is only me using this mail program so I do not have OG to use macros to identify myself. OG This way you can write ./michael or azrael or your full OG name and OG proper mailaddress and whatever OG On the last line I use macros to identify my Bat! version OG and OG windows version - but that is really not necessary. OG I very much recommend though that you start the signature OG with -- (two OG hyphens space and newline) because that is the norm that OG most OG mailprogramsuse to differentiate between message text and OG signature when OG quoting. Quite the improvement Ottar.G Two hyphens/space/new line and I'm in business. Since TB edited out Azrael it saves me from typing ./michael too. I can tell there is something going on with the line spacing though. It wants to jump up a line unless I drop down two lines to start a new sentence. No one yet confirmed that my indenting had improved. If that's been repaired it's been a fruitfull day Again Ottar, most kind. - - Best regards, ./michaelmailto:@dtsnia.net -- The Bat 1.51 / W2K SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
On 21-04-2001 at 23:12, azrael kindly wrote: On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 4:21:18 PM, Karin Spaink thoughtfully wrote: KS Are you referring to your text getting indented more with each new KS paragraph? I suspect it is the smart tabs option or the KS auto-indent option set in the Editor Preferences (under Options). If KS you have any of these switched on, you might just have found the KS solution. Thank you; it was checked. hope to hear confirmation of an improvement. Your last messages have been indent-free indeed ;-) - K - -- Maybe Ellen Cherry Charles didn't look like a million dollars, but nobody could deny that she looked like the *tax* on a million dollars. - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
rename folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi you all, is there a way of renaming an existing TB folder without producing a new one, then transferrring all mails from the old one, then deleting the old one? - This was the only way I found yet of renaming a folder. There might be an easier approach ... ? Cheers Peter - -- PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication iQA/AwUBOuIWTgM2UgbhB3TOEQIAawCgrOQcsESTf/j0Pp3m0s9aCZEEY/gAoN5S kQz2xCSBv7E14nZD9POwUwJV =p/92 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 8:13:43 PM, Karin Spaink thoughtfully wrote: Try this one: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=ALNCQAFO0673121 I just created it. KS Yet, I get the same error message: even after a forced KS reload of the page. Weird. I have the two font zipped file from Allie's link. Norton 2001 was updated just yesterday on this machine and I'd be happy to attach and send you the file. - - Best regards, ./michaelmailto:@dtsnia.net -- The Bat 1.51 / W2K SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: rename folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, at 02:22:52 [GMT +0200] (8:22 PM where I live) you wrote the following in regards to rename folder: PM is there a way of renaming an existing TB folder without producing a new PM one Yep, just right click on the folder and go down to Properties. At the top of the next window you will see a *Name:* box. - -- Regards, Ron Secord Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/10 Under Windows 95 4.0.950 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: Digitally signed for authenticity! iQA/AwUBOuIldz3g1/Rev158EQIwaQCg6lfCn0Z7EPwUcspVC/0HY4qJCtgAoNr4 PjgktD8CDQvOKeZc4Nr/tHWj =BU89 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: rename folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, On 2001-04-21, Peter Meyns wrote: PM Hi you all, PM is there a way of renaming an existing TB folder without producing a new PM one, then transferrring all mails from the old one, then deleting the old PM one? - This was the only way I found yet of renaming a folder. There PM might be an easier approach ... ? I know this one :) Just open the folder properties and type in the new name. Best Regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.52 Beta/10 on Windows 2000, SP1 be´Wú´WúÈ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOuIl5Cv4/MA2WmGQEQI42ACgn3aqCKZYfvNDB3ay69dkjPhnlZoAoLlk CPi+cm/ZjQxmbI5cP2zz2Vxk =OgQx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On 22-04-2001 at 02:25, azrael kindly wrote: On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 8:13:43 PM, Karin Spaink thoughtfully wrote: Try this one: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=ALNCQAFO0673121 I just created it. KS Yet, I get the same error message: even after a forced KS reload of the page. Weird. I have the two font zipped file from Allie's link. Norton 2001 was updated just yesterday on this machine and I'd be happy to attach and send you the file. That's very kind, but meanwhile Allie sent me the file himself. As it turns out, the download link would terminate itself after five people had actually downloaded the file. (That gives a whole new meaning to the term killfile ;-)) - K - -- Our society desperately needs monsters to reclaim its own moral virginity. - Sylvère Lotringer -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:13:24 -0400, azrael thoughtfully wrote the following: a No one yet confirmed that my indenting had improved. If that's been a repaired it's been a fruitfull day BTW, Michael, TB!'s editor is truly WYSIWYG in nature. Therefore the formatting that you see before you hit send is what everyone else will see when they receive your message. If you see indenting in front of you while you're composing, we'll see the same thing when we get it. This offers you a great deal of control and confidence in your message formatting. IOW's, there's no need to ask us if the indenting is gone or still there. You can see for yourself. ;=) - -- Allie, -= A. Curtis Martin =- List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/10 \\// Win2k (SP1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOuIkslfJ62ArBxfiEQIuEgCg5nC6g/coo69FCAtFgn2VCFzd8JIAn2s7 xwOXeSJT9GffpXw0ikeQoQjN =gNJz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: The Bat! - suggestions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Maurice, On Saturday, April 21, 2001 17:29:23 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'The Bat! - suggestions': Maurice the problem I've run into, is that when auto-format is turned on, Maurice a return is only honored when you hit it twice in a row. This makes Maurice it, for example, impossible to create lists of short-items with one Maurice item on each line, unless you insert a blank line between them. Typing Maurice the first space on a new line now causes the cursor to return to one Maurice space after the last character of the previous line, simply because Maurice there is room there. OK, this is an ex of auto wrap on but auto format off. It seems to do what you want. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! v1.51/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOuIrY/vZew4/FKBgEQIx+QCeJsfi4tZ8TT1TK/h7fSLcNDjP/9kAnjPh w5tgYyGfJSpgA1/af9ZT0C0w =4knL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: rename folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, April 22, 2001 at 02:29 (my local time), Shauna Scott wrote: SS I know this one :) SS Just open the folder properties and type in the new name. Oh yes. It's that easy. *S* Thanks a lot, Shauna and Ron! :) Cheers Peter - -- PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication iQA/AwUBOuIhUgM2UgbhB3TOEQJBtQCeI0Q0k2H3TyrH+t/9wdK/IlqDOukAnjQI 9w6fFf/SfpBiI+IkKRkAXnX1 =/lKq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Blank lines at the top of a message
On April 21, 2001, at 9:18:03 AM, azrael wrote: Yes Ottar, Use a specific template for replies is checked and I'm using the Reply Format Nick gave me. Michael, the reply template I gave you will work just fine. I do note however that you have two blank lines at the beginning. When you look at the reply template, make sure there is no white space at the top. On %ODATE, at %OTIMELONG, %OFROMNAME wrote: The above line should be the very *first* line in the template, and doing that will eliminate any blank lines. %WRAPPED=%QUOTES Don't forget that the above macro combination will only wrap the first paragraph. For all other quote paragraphs, you will have to highlight and use Utilities/Format Block/Left to wrap them properly. If you want a signature, then my suggestion would be to define one, then save it as a text file on your HDD. Then, add this line to your template: %PUT=C:\My Documents\My Signature.txt if that is what you'd name it, and where you would put it. It doesn't matter where it is, as long as you define that in the macro. Then follow up with: %SINGLERE as the last line in your reply template. Nick ~ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- PGP-Basics List Moderator | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win98 SE ~ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
