Re[2]: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Tom Geldner
Hi Thomas, TF> The thing is that when I report a spam to spamcops, the headers are TF> reported and sent to the originating ISP as well. Some of these ISP's TF> are spammers themselves and it is no problem for them to harvest email TF> addresses from the headers in spam reported back to them. It

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Paul, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:57:09 -0400 GMT (29/09/02, 02:57 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: PC> Since then I have had first-hand experience with SpamCop's PC> heavy-handed, across-the-board, "Self-Appointed Gestapo" tactics PC> about blocking ALL email from a server used by several IS

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Tom, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:00:40 -0700 GMT (29/09/02, 04:00 +0700 GMT), Tom Geldner wrote: TG> SpamCop does have one serious shortcoming. It does NOT reduce your TG> spam by reporting through it. 90% of the junk mail comes from about 10 TG> major sources in China and a few in Brazil. They

Re: SmartBat maintenance

2002-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Quin, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:38:07 -0600GMT (29-9-02, 6:38 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: QS> Where did you learn of CTRL + F4? It works as you said. I pressed in SmartBat (in the text field) on the right mouse button, there I saw New tab, Next tab, Previous tab, Close tab. And all o

Re: Severely OT: Problemes d'index !

2002-09-28 Thread Scott McNay
Hi Mark! In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Saturday, September 28, 2002, 9:49:08 PM, you wrote: MW> Scott- MW> Ah, the joys of babelfish. Sometime check out "The Jumping Frog" by SM>> ROUGH TRANSLATION: Don't whine; I didn't see anyone else attempt to answer until a

Re: SmartBat maintenance

2002-09-28 Thread Quin Selman
Hello Roelof, Saturday, September 28, 2002, 4:36:14 PM, you wrote: QS>> How do we delete a tab from SmartBat? > Press and the focused tab is closed. This doesn't work > for the main-tab. The tab is closed and after exiting and starting > SB the tab won't appear again, but the file that was all

Re: SmartBat maintenance

2002-09-28 Thread Quin Selman
Hello Thomas, Saturday, September 28, 2002, 10:35:57 AM, you wrote: > Hello Quin, > On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:42:22 -0600 GMT (28/09/02, 22:42 +0700 GMT), > Quin Selman wrote: QS>> How do we delete a tab from SmartBat? > key? Nope. It's never that simple, is it? -- Best regards, Quin

Re: global option for smtp server

2002-09-28 Thread Sudip Pokhrel
Hi Thomas, On Saturday, September 28, 2002 20:41 your local time, (19:26 my local time), you [TF] wrote: G>> There are already "official"connections on airports, hotels and G>> other place were the warriors hang out. TF> Where are these? Is there a URL listing them? I read somewhere that Chang

Re: SmartBat maintenance

2002-09-28 Thread Sudip Pokhrel
Hi Paul, On Saturday, September 28, 2002 18:16 your local time, (Sunday, 07:01 my local time), you wrote: > I use it for saving macros and QT's that people post. One file for ... > I have found it to be one of the most useful features of The Bat! Yes, and I would like to see Smartbat made into

Severely OT: Problemes d'index !

2002-09-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Scott- Ah, the joys of babelfish. Sometime check out "The Jumping Frog" by Mark Twain, the word-for-word translation of his story, as he puts it "In English, Then in French, Then Clawed Back into a Civilized Language Once More by Patient, Unremunerated Toil." "It there was sone time here an indi

Re: Palm Synch

2002-09-28 Thread Tim Musson
Hey Jon, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 4:06:19 PM. JH> c operation started 09/28/02 18:26:18 JH> -- Mail JH>- Failed while trying to log on to the Desktop Mail System.

Re[2]: SmartBat maintenance

2002-09-28 Thread Joseph N.
On Saturday, September 28, 2002, Paul Wilson wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > One file for recipes another for notes that will eventually go into > a message to be sent. I have a file that my wife and I use for notes > to each other, things to do, shopping list Okay, I c

Re: Wish list item

2002-09-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Saturday, September 28, 2002, 2:30:06 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: > As I wrote in another message that is plainly wrong. No, you are mixing content and the object. > Any written text belongs to its originator regardless of where the > physical evidence is stored. are you claiming you can come t

DEAD HORSE (was Editor problem with delete & quoted text)

2002-09-28 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Walt, @28-Sep-2002, 19:42 -0600 (02:42 UK time) Walt Newcomb [WN] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: WN> Re your message: Editor problem with delete & quoted text WN> Original Attachments: WN> Saturday, September 28, 2002, Saturd

Re: Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Saturday, September 28, 2002, 10:19:22 AM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: > A valid point but I think lobbying for something that already > exists in a different form sort of belongs in the dept. of > redundancy dept. It doesn't exist. I cannot put the cursor on a message, type in a note, move th

Re[2]: Editor problem with delete & quoted text

2002-09-28 Thread Walt Newcomb
Hello Dwight Re your message: Editor problem with delete & quoted text Original Attachments: Saturday, September 28, 2002, Saturday, 7:33:42 PM, you wrote: DAC> The idea that incoming mail has to be frozen to comply with copyright DAC> laws is silly. Exactly! -- W

Re: Editor problem with delete & quoted text

2002-09-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Saturday, September 28, 2002, 2:22:00 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: > But there is a good reason behind not being able to edit incoming > mail: It is not yours. If you were right on this, it would be illegal to underline in books, or make notes in the margins. If your logic were employed, you would

Re: SmartBat maintenance

2002-09-28 Thread Paul Wilson
Saturday, 9/28/2002, 6:11 PM Hi Alexander, On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, at 01:34:43 [GMT +0300] (which was 3:34 PM where I live) you wrote about: 'SmartBat maintenance' AC> While we are at it, what purpose was SmartBat designed for? I AC> can't see anything mentioned in the documentation... I use it

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Geldner [TG] wrote:' TG> The one point on which I disagree with the article is that DNSable TG> blacklists are somehow actionable in court. That seems like pure TG> nonsense to me. Nobody HAS to use

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Saturday, September 28, 2002, 5:00 PM, you wrote: TG> SpamCop does have one serious shortcoming. It does NOT reduce your TG> spam by reporting through it. 90% of the junk mail comes from about 10 TG> major sources in China and a few in Brazil. They could care less who TG> reports them and the

Re: Palm Synch

2002-09-28 Thread Joseph N.
On Saturday, September 28, 2002, Jon Hind wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: JH> I'm trying to psynch with the bat and get the message Jon, Check the archives and look for postings by Tim Musson on syncing with the Palm. In one of his postings, he gives a sample sync.ini f

Re: SmartBat maintenance

2002-09-28 Thread Alexander Cicovic
Hello there, While we are at it, what purpose was SmartBat designed for? I can't see anything mentioned in the documentation... -- Best regards, Alexander Cicovic Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.

Re: SmartBat maintenance

2002-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Quin, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:42:22 -0600GMT (28-9-02, 17:42 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: QS> How do we delete a tab from SmartBat? Press and the focused tab is closed. This doesn't work for the main-tab. The tab is closed and after exiting and starting SB the tab won't appear

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Tom Geldner
Hi Paul, PC> I subscribe to the Langalist, and there was a great article in it today PC> about spamcop. I know this has been talked about on TBUDL some, but I PC> didn't follow it ;) Here is the langalist article for your reading PC> pleasure. The one point on which I disagree with the article i

Palm Synch

2002-09-28 Thread Jon Hind
Hello tbudl, I'm trying to psynch with the bat and get the message - c operation started 09/28/02 18:26:18 -- Mail - Failed while trying to log on to the Desktop Mail System. Please check your Palm Mail settings. Launch Mail Setup through the Windows Start menu on your desktop. Sele

spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Friday, September 27, 2002, 3:09 PM, you wrote: I subscribe to the Langalist, and there was a great article in it today about spamcop. I know this has been talked about on TBUDL some, but I didn't follow it ;) Here is the langalist article for your reading pleasure. 7) More On Spam, And SpamC

Re: Synchronisation

2002-09-28 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, September 27, 2002, 1:34:04 PM, Tim wrote: > My particular situation is that I normally work on my own computer, > but recently I've had to use my mother's computer. I've kept mailbases > in synch with Backup and Restore, but last week my mother's computer > had a major problem, and as

Re: The Bat and Hotmail

2002-09-28 Thread Angel
Hi, On Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 8:44:50 AM , Scott scibbled: JJ>> I have written to the author and wait. SM> I've written also, but no reply yet. It picks up hotmail and yahoo SM> mail, but I regularly get errors with both. I have the current Yahoo, Hotmail and Netscape Modules for W

Re:Editing incoming mail

2002-09-28 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Hi Thomas. At 12:35 PM on Saturday, September 28, 2002 you [TF] wrote the following about 'Editing incoming mail': TF> I think this is still very TB related, TF> though. This wouldn't be the first & won't be the last time we disagree on certain points. You bring up some good points, howe

Re: Editing incoming mail

2002-09-28 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas F. [TF] wrote:' TF> I think this is still very TB related, though. ;-) The problem though Thomas is that things seem to be getting circular. The same points are being made over and over again w

Re: SmartBat maintenance

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Quin, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:42:22 -0600 GMT (28/09/02, 22:42 +0700 GMT), Quin Selman wrote: QS> How do we delete a tab from SmartBat? key? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. "Was ist das Problem der heutigen Gesellschaft - mangelndes Wissen oder ma

Re: Editing incoming mail

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Jan, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:19:22 -0400 GMT (28/09/02, 22:19 +0700 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR> A valid point but I think lobbying for something that already JR> exists in a different form sort of belongs in the dept. of JR> redundancy dept. Most functions in TB exist in several forms.

Re: global option for smtp server

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Gerard, On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:56:26 +0200 GMT (25/09/02, 16:56 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G> There are already "official"connections on airports, hotels and other G> place were the warriors hang out. Where are these? Is there a URL listing them? G> The "unofficial" ones are the fully ope

Re: Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread James Senick
Hello Jan, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, at 11:19:22 [GMT -0400] (which was 11:19:22 AM in NY, USA) Jan Rifkinson wrote: > A valid point but I think lobbying for > something that already exists in a > different form sort of belongs in the dept. > of redundancy dept. Redundancy? Redundancy? I'm

Re: The Bat and Hotmail

2002-09-28 Thread Scott McNay
Hi Joan! In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Saturday, September 28, 2002, 8:34:18 AM, you wrote: R>> I just installed web2pop and find it very convenient...Works well with both R>> Yahoo & Hotmail. JJ> I have written to the author and wait. I've written also, but

SmartBat maintenance

2002-09-28 Thread Quin Selman
Hello TBUDL, How do we delete a tab from SmartBat? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread Scott McNay
Hi Jim! In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Saturday, September 28, 2002, 4:57:03 AM, you wrote: JL> Saturday, September 28, 2002, 8:35:40 AM, you wrote: DH>> Wrong. I do change occasionally the subject line *in conversation*. DH>> That is, I assign a meaningful/changed s

Re:Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Hi James. At 10:45 AM on Saturday, September 28, 2002 you [JS] wrote the following about 'Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)': JS>>> [...] There's simply no reason not to JS>>> have this feature available. [/...] >> Sure there is. >> This is a different program & the >> feature[

Re: Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread James Senick
Hello Jan, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, at 10:15:54 [GMT -0400] (which was 10:15:54 AM in NY, USA) Jan Rifkinson wrote: JS>> [...] There's simply no reason not to JS>> have this feature available. [/...] > Sure there is. > This is a different program & the > feature[s] you are talking about can

Re: Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread James Senick
Hello Jan, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, at 09:46:13 [GMT -0400] (which was 9:46:13 AM in NY, USA) Jan Rifkinson wrote: > Without commenting on the merits of your > position one way or the other, it strikes > me that you may be coming to this question > from a very different POV that some of the

Re:Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Hi James. At 9:50 AM on Saturday, September 28, 2002 you [JS] wrote the following about 'Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)': JS> [...] There's simply no reason not to JS> have this feature available. [/...] Sure there is. This is a different program & the feature[s] you are tal

Re: Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread James Senick
Hello Dierk, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, at 12:21:50 [GMT +0200] (which was 6:21:50 AM in NY, USA) Dierk Haasis wrote: > What I cannot do is take your comments, adjust them as I like (even > for private use!) and then either say it is mine or it is yours. What > I can do, is write something that is cle

Re: Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread James Senick
Hello Dierk, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, at 09:35:40 [GMT +0200] (which was 3:35:40 AM in NY, USA) Dierk Haasis wrote: > Wrong. I do change occasionally the subject line *in conversation*. > That is, I assign a meaningful/changed subject line to a reply. I am > very particular when it comes to vital co

Re:Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Hi Dierk. At 6:21 AM on Saturday, September 28, 2002 you [DH] wrote the following about 'Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)': DH> This is nothing else than what I wrote: DH> "Annotating" being the operative word DH> here. It is something completely DH> different from "Changing" or "Alte

Re: global option for smtp server

2002-09-28 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Gerard, Going back 11:56 25.09.2002... > There are already "official"connections on airports, hotels and other > place were the warriors hang out. Indeed it becomes very popular, at last :) But nonetheless, if you're worried about security on a WLAN, provide it to yourself! :) Seriously,

Re: global option for smtp server

2002-09-28 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Gerard, Going back 22:50 23.09.2002... > Or you can use postcastserver http://www.postcastserver.com/ > This sends your email directly to the mail server of the recipient, > thereby making a providers smtp server optional :-) > This is also great if you are a road warrior with a laptop. An

Re[2]: The Bat and Hotmail

2002-09-28 Thread Joan Josep
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Raj, On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, at 21:40:21 [GMT +0530] (which was 23/09/2002 (D/M/Y) 17:10 where I live) you wrote: R> I just installed web2pop and find it very convenient...Works well with both R> Yahoo & Hotmail. I have just ins

Re: Editing incoming mail

2002-09-28 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas F. [TF] wrote:' DH>> I am very particular when it comes to vital communication and DH>> *don't want anybody to change my mails* (this is for all of you DH>> that don't think international Copyrigh

Re[2]: Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread Jim Lanyon
Hello Dierk, Saturday, September 28, 2002, 11:21:50 AM, you wrote: DH> What I cannot do is take your comments, adjust them as I like (even DH> for private use!) and then either say it is mine or it is yours. What DH> I can do, is write something that is clearly identified as a comment DH> unto

Re: Problemes d'index !

2002-09-28 Thread dom dom
Well. It's weird. When I edit this 1.05 Mo file with wordpad, there is only one message inside... --- Marck D Pearlstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > You have to exit TB before doing this. It nearly > always works. If > not, try "Browse deleted messages" on the affected > folder. > > It

Re: Wish list item

2002-09-28 Thread Gerard
ON Saturday, September 28, 2002, 1:13:27 AM, you wrote: JS> It amazes me why many don't understand the need for it. If I JS> had to guess, I'd have to say that many who don't see the need JS> to edit the subject lines either don't carry on discussions or JS> they simply do not use email for any

Re: Wish list item

2002-09-28 Thread Gerard
ON Friday, September 27, 2002, 11:40:11 PM, you wrote: DAC> Your amazement is no reason to deprive those who would use it, the DAC> ability to do it. If there was any reason which would make me consider DAC> going back to Eudora, it would be the ability to make notes in DAC> messages when I want

Re: Problemes d'index !

2002-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo dom, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:39:27 +0200 (CEST)GMT (28-9-02, 11:39 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: dd> I deleted the TBI file but it's the same. dd> All files attached are in the attach folder too. Let's try something else (though I don't understand why deleting the tbi didn't work.) C

Re: Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Jim! On Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 11:57:03 AM you wrote: > Sorry, I completely disagree with you on this. No, you don't. > This being the case,I do not see any problem in annotating the text or subject > line of an E-mail. Because some people may be lazy or careless in their > sub

Re: Problemes d'index !

2002-09-28 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi dom, @28-Sep-2002, 11:39 +0200 (10:39 UK time) dom dom said: > I deleted the TBI file but it's the same. You have to exit TB before doing this. It nearly always works. If not, try "Browse deleted messages" on the affected folder. It may be that

Re: Editing incoming mail

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Dierk, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:35:40 +0200 GMT (28/09/02, 14:35 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH> I am very particular when it comes to vital communication and DH> *don't want anybody to change my mails* (this is for all of you DH> that don't think international Copyright doesn't hold if

Re: Problemes d'index !

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas F.
Hello dom, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:39:27 +0200 (CEST) GMT (28/09/02, 16:39 +0700 GMT), dom dom wrote: dd> Anyway, I still have a problem. dd> I've got a simple account, without any subfolder. dd> It used to have about approx. 150 messages before the dd> crash. dd> They all are gone ! dd> But when

Re: Editor problem with delete & quoted text

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Dierk, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:22:00 +0200 GMT (28/09/02, 14:22 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH> Another reason is that e-mails can nowadays - at last - being used DH> as evidence showing the flow of communication. If you edit the DH> e-mail, perhaps even without changing the references

Re: Problemes d'index !

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas F.
Hello dom, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 00:30:30 +0200 (CEST) GMT (28/09/02, 05:30 +0700 GMT), dom dom wrote: dd> Je tente en francais d'abors parceque je ne me sens pas capable dd> d'expliquer tout ca tout de suite en anglais. We'll try to help anyway. ;-) I hope you read English, as my problem is the

Re: Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread Jim Lanyon
Hello Dierk, Saturday, September 28, 2002, 8:35:40 AM, you wrote: DH> Wrong. I do change occasionally the subject line *in conversation*. DH> That is, I assign a meaningful/changed subject line to a reply. I am DH> very particular when it comes to vital communication and *don't want DH> anybod

Re: Problemes d'index !

2002-09-28 Thread dom dom
Ok now all the folders are back to right place ! Thanks ! Anyway, I still have a problem. I've got a simple account, without any subfolder. It used to have about approx. 150 messages before the crash. They all are gone ! But when I edit the TBB file (1.05 Mo) all the messages are there. The FOLD

Re[2]: Wish list item

2002-09-28 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Allie, > IOW's, we have to meet the software half-way. I'm quite happy with > the solution I've just mustered up. I've since created a common > folder to which the imported message is saved. I then drag the > altered message back to its original source folder. Of course this > setup is for

Re[2]: Editor problem with delete & quoted text

2002-09-28 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Dierk, > Can't say anything against your wish. But there is a good reason > behind not being able to edit incoming mail: It is not yours. The text > belongs to the sender - if you want it or not, there is an > international law for it (Copyright). It's the same with hardcopies > (letters yo

Re: Wish list item

2002-09-28 Thread William Moore
Hello Dwight Thank you for your email dated Saturday, September 28, 2002, 6:05:33 AM, in which you wrote: DAC> but the bottom line is that once the mail has been received, it belongs to the DAC> recipient, not the sender I'm being pedantic here but in English law a letter becomes the propert

Editing incoming mail (was: Wish list item)

2002-09-28 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello James! On Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 1:13:27 AM you wrote: > It amazes me why many don't understand the need for it. If I > had to guess, I'd have to say that many who don't see the need > to edit the subject lines either don't carry on discussions or > they simply do not use email f

Re: Wish list item

2002-09-28 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Dwight! On Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 7:05:33 AM you wrote: > there are lots of work arounds. some are better than others. but the > bottom line is that once the mail has been received, it belongs to the > recipient, not the sender As I wrote in another message that is plainly wrong.